BFL fucked us over again (redux)

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I think the last person we need to tell to focus on anything "relevant" would be Gleb, the Scam Buster Extraordinaire. I don't see anything wrong with Bruno voicing his thoughts on these scamming thieves.

Puerto, you are also someone who had to deal with Josh on a personal level, right?

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[Gleb Gamow]

I think the last person we need to tell to focus on anything "relevant" would be Gleb, the Scam Buster Extraordinaire. I don't see anything wrong with Bruno voicing his thoughts on these scamming thieves.

Puerto, you are also someone who had to deal with Josh on a personal level, right?

Protection Order to not visit Jody's children at the KC Zoo in 5...4...3...

[PuertoLibre]

I think the last person we need to tell to focus on anything "relevant" would be Gleb, the Scam Buster Extraordinaire. I don't see anything wrong with Bruno voicing his thoughts on these scamming thieves.

Puerto, you are also someone who had to deal with Josh on a personal level, right?

What? You mean the incident with the W[r]ong statement made by Josh on behalf of the court case against BFL?

I only know of the statements made by Josh made the news sites on Google. No idea if the guy was approached to comment on his exuberant statements.

Reference:


He seems to think that I gave him up to the FTC/***/*** in the way of "information".
All I do know is that I didn't pull a "Judas" on him. He really did it all himself.

Bruno, is another story though.

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By the way, leeroyjenkins/Gleb, why is BFL (allegedly) laying off all their employees if they won the court case only a couple of weeks ago...?
Well, I REALLY don't understand? Did BFL make an accounting error?

I dunno, I am not the smartest tack on this site. I just feel/know looking at all these events in hindsight that if Josh had been fired a long time ago, BFL would have probably have alot less problems today. Actually, all in my opinion, I think the products would have probably have come out on time and ahead of schedule if they had found someone with more experience to be the driving and interacting force behind the company.

Subtract Josh's shenanigans from the equation and you end up with a healthier looking company.
Add Josh's shenanigans to the equation and you end up with shuttered BFL. (Hum, interesting story really!)

Jody was a smart gal when she saw nothing wrong. Now she just has to appear in court to prove that was the smartest decision as a general manager. I am absolutely sure she knows what she is doing, even right now. Right?
I have ample confidence that her decisions are the right ones.

[Xian01]

tl;dr: The FTC are poopie-heads that were picking on BFL, and BFL don't owe them any receivership costs from when they were made to wear dunce-caps, and sit in the corner of the class for a few months.

http://ia802308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531.330.0.pdf

DEFENDANT/COUNTERCLAIM PLAINTIFF BF LABS INC.’S SUR-REPLY
IN OPPOSITION TO THE FTC’S MOTION
TO DISMISS DEFENDANTS’ COUNTERCLAIMS

[PuertoLibre]

In my opinion.
Owning BFL hardware is like owning a butterphone.

It's pretty on the outside, but damn, pretty much fooked in every sense of the word.


Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mz31OFDDdk

[sbogovac]

tl;dr: The FTC are poopie-heads that were picking on BFL, and BFL don't owe them any receivership costs from when they were made to wear dunce-caps, and sit in the corner of the class for a few months.

http://ia802308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531.330.0.pdf

DEFENDANT/COUNTERCLAIM PLAINTIFF BF LABS INC.’S SUR-REPLY
IN OPPOSITION TO THE FTC’S MOTION
TO DISMISS DEFENDANTS’ COUNTERCLAIMS

Thanks Chris, not only for the update and the TL;DR but certainly also for the smile! 

[h@shKraker]

Just so I'm clear, are you guys saying it would be an unwise idea for me to take the refund I luckily received from BFL for my order and NOW reinvest it in the lower cost, wonderfully awesome BFL Monarch gear?

H@shKRaker

[MonumentalAsshole]

Just so I'm clear, are you guys saying it would be an unwise idea for me to take the refund I luckily received from BFL for my order and NOW reinvest it in the lower cost, wonderfully awesome BFL Monarch gear?

H@shKRaker

No! Take your money and run. They are talking bullshit. Bullshit!

[Gleb Gamow]

Just so I'm clear, are you guys saying it would be an unwise idea for me to take the refund I luckily received from BFL for my order and NOW reinvest it in the lower cost, wonderfully awesome BFL Monarch gear?

H@shKRaker

No! Take your money and run. They are talking bullshit. Bullshit!

[h@shKraker]

Just so I'm clear, are you guys saying it would be an unwise idea for me to take the refund I luckily received from BFL for my order and NOW reinvest it in the lower cost, wonderfully awesome BFL Monarch gear?

H@shKRaker

No! Take your money and run. They are talking bullshit. Bullshit!

There is no BULLSH!T here.  I really received a refund and I REALLY am applying satire when I ask "should I reinvest in BFL gear".

H@shKraker

[MonumentalAsshole]

There is no BULLSH!T here.  I really received a refund and I REALLY am applying satire when I ask "should I reinvest in BFL gear".

H@shKraker

Y u no purchase precious from BFL?

[sbogovac]

[...] I really received a refund [...]

The relevant question for a lot of readers here would be: when did you receive that refund? (And when did you apply for it?)

[Searing]

[...] I really received a refund [...]

The relevant question for a lot of readers here would be: when did you receive that refund? (And when did you apply for it?)

yeah did anyone get a refund for their 65mm stuff from late 2013? (prob not)

my refund was only due to despearation upgrade of my very late never to arrive 65mm in 2013 for a 1.9k fee to Monarch(s) 1 small 1 large 8.6k it was
more or less

I got my refund due to that (drink the kool aid) upgrade 1 year and 3 days late from my order due to BFL for around 3 weeks from my recollection
trying like hell to refund in order to

1) please the judge on sonny's probation hearing

2) put off the fed investigation

but the Feds jumped in and 'poof' no more refunds

so in my case it was dumb dumb luck from back in the day ..when I got the refund I actually called the bank thinking the odds were better they TOOK 8.6k out of
my account rather then it being a refund...I was that dumbfounded


but again any one have any luck with refunds via feds or otherwise on their 65mm 2013 late arriving stuff?

 

[h@shKraker]

[...] I really received a refund [...]

The relevant question for a lot of readers here would be: when did you receive that refund? (And when did you apply for it?)

All,

I applied for my refund July BEFORE the FTC raid.  The FTC thing put a kink in the timing and then once BFL resumed their operations I contacted BFL, asked again for my refund and VIOLA, it showed up.  Keep in mind, any time i corresponded with BFL I copied Helen Wong on the emails so she'd have a nice complete history of my consumer experience.  If you're corresponding with BFL I HIGHLY recommend you ALWAYS copy the FTC so they have a record of your efforts and of BFL's responses.

H@shKraker

[sbogovac]

[...] I applied for my refund July BEFORE the FTC raid.  The FTC thing put a kink in the timing and then once BFL resumed their operations I contacted BFL, asked again for my refund and VIOLA, it showed up.  Keep in mind, any time i corresponded with BFL I copied Helen Wong on the emails so she'd have a nice complete history of my consumer experience.  If you're corresponding with BFL I HIGHLY recommend you ALWAYS copy the FTC so they have a record of your efforts and of BFL's responses.[...]

Thanks H@shKraker, this is very important information for everyone who is in similar circumstances...

[Gleb Gamow]

Oh, how we pine for the good ole days!


"I cunt fuckin' hear you because I have cockroach eggs in my ears!"

[MonumentalAsshole]

[...] I applied for my refund July BEFORE the FTC raid.  The FTC thing put a kink in the timing and then once BFL resumed their operations I contacted BFL, asked again for my refund and VIOLA, it showed up.  Keep in mind, any time i corresponded with BFL I copied Helen Wong on the emails so she'd have a nice complete history of my consumer experience.  If you're corresponding with BFL I HIGHLY recommend you ALWAYS copy the FTC so they have a record of your efforts and of BFL's responses.[...]

Thanks H@shKraker, this is very important information for everyone who is in similar circumstances...

Thank you for thanking him.

[sbogovac]

[...] I applied for my refund July BEFORE the FTC raid.  The FTC thing put a kink in the timing and then once BFL resumed their operations I contacted BFL, asked again for my refund and VIOLA, it showed up.  Keep in mind, any time i corresponded with BFL I copied Helen Wong on the emails so she'd have a nice complete history of my consumer experience.  If you're corresponding with BFL I HIGHLY recommend you ALWAYS copy the FTC so they have a record of your efforts and of BFL's responses.[...]

Thanks H@shKraker, this is very important information for everyone who is in similar circumstances...

Thank you for thanking him.

You're welcome!

[PuertoLibre]

For those of you who are too pansy to go pick up the phone and reach for your own money from that guys pocket....

....Someone else will take your refund cash....

And....

Eventually you'll be out of luck.

(Stop being afraid, and ask for the persons listed above when you get the front desk or secretary, leave your number on the voicemail if they aren't there to pick up immediately. They will get back to you eventually.)

[h@shKraker]

[...] I applied for my refund July BEFORE the FTC raid.  The FTC thing put a kink in the timing and then once BFL resumed their operations I contacted BFL, asked again for my refund and VIOLA, it showed up.  Keep in mind, any time i corresponded with BFL I copied Helen Wong on the emails so she'd have a nice complete history of my consumer experience.  If you're corresponding with BFL I HIGHLY recommend you ALWAYS copy the FTC so they have a record of your efforts and of BFL's responses.[...]

Thanks H@shKraker, this is very important information for everyone who is in similar circumstances...

Thank you for thanking him.

I feel as though I have been thanked *AND* that the person who thanked me was in return thanked.  This is much like the transitive property of thanking.

H@shKraker