Cost of Bitcointalk Accounts.

[subSTRATA]

What is the cost of Senior members rank account with a Green positive trust ratings with near about 400 activity points.

it would depend, with just the 400 activity alone, the account would be worth at least .35 imo, and the trust ratings would add substantially to the price, but it depends on the trust number you have on default settings.

[owlcatz]

doesn't this completely undermine the integrity of trust ratings?

Yes, but welcome to bitcointalk - anything goes here apparently. 

[Amph]

doesn't this completely undermine the integrity of trust ratings?

unless they manage to scam more than what they've payed for the account, there should not be a problem, the problem can occur if two users decide to scam and collaborate

i want to explain it better, if two users buy two account with high trust, for whatever reason, one of the two can do the malicious escrower for the second which result in the possibility of steal a big amount

maybe it's better to use only official escrow that have signed an address

[regtrade]

doesn't this completely undermine the integrity of trust ratings?

unless they manage to scam more than what they've payed for the account, there should not be a problem, the problem can occur if two users decide to scam and collaborate

i want to explain it better, if two users buy two account with high trust, for whatever reason, one of the two can do the malicious escrower for the second which result in the possibility of steal a big amount

maybe it's better to use only official escrow that have signed an address

But someone could buy the bitcoin address too as part of the package. The only way I can see to avoid this is if the seller is willing to do a brief video chat/hold a physically signed message in front of a camera unique to each sale.

Anything else can be transferred to the new owner, anything but not the sellers face.

[Amph]

doesn't this completely undermine the integrity of trust ratings?

unless they manage to scam more than what they've payed for the account, there should not be a problem, the problem can occur if two users decide to scam and collaborate

i want to explain it better, if two users buy two account with high trust, for whatever reason, one of the two can do the malicious escrower for the second which result in the possibility of steal a big amount

maybe it's better to use only official escrow that have signed an address

But someone could buy the bitcoin address too as part of the package. The only way I can see to avoid this is if the seller is willing to do a brief video chat/hold a physically signed message in front of a camera unique to each sale.

Anything else can be transferred to the new owner, anything but not the sellers face.

dude, even if they buy the address they can't sign it so it's useless, that's the whole point of signing an address, because that address belong only to one user, unless the buyers and the seller are friend that know each other in real life and share the same wallet

[Somekindabitcoin]

doesn't this completely undermine the integrity of trust ratings?

unless they manage to scam more than what they've payed for the account, there should not be a problem, the problem can occur if two users decide to scam and collaborate

i want to explain it better, if two users buy two account with high trust, for whatever reason, one of the two can do the malicious escrower for the second which result in the possibility of steal a big amount

maybe it's better to use only official escrow that have signed an address

But someone could buy the bitcoin address too as part of the package. The only way I can see to avoid this is if the seller is willing to do a brief video chat/hold a physically signed message in front of a camera unique to each sale.

Anything else can be transferred to the new owner, anything but not the sellers face.

dude, even if they buy the address they can't sign it so it's useless, that's the whole point of signing an address, because that address belong only to one users, unless the buyers and the selelrs are friend that know each other in real life and share the same wallet

wait if I buy the address I basically buy the private key so I can sign a message... that's the whole point of it, if you sell your account you should find your oldest address, empty it, export the private key and give it to the buyer so he can sign it without doubts.

[regtrade]

dude, even if they buy the address they can't sign it so it's useless, that's the whole point of signing an address, because that address belong only to one users, unless the buyers and the selelrs are friend that know each other in real life and share the same wallet

I'm fairly new to bitcoin and the intricacies of signing accounts, but whatever I can do inside a bitcoin wallet, I can enable someone else to do. I'm not special in that sense. The only thing unique about me (other than my staying power in bed and exceptionally long penis), is my face, fingerprint or retina scan and dna. Only one of those are practical to endorse trades with

[Amph]

doesn't this completely undermine the integrity of trust ratings?

unless they manage to scam more than what they've payed for the account, there should not be a problem, the problem can occur if two users decide to scam and collaborate

i want to explain it better, if two users buy two account with high trust, for whatever reason, one of the two can do the malicious escrower for the second which result in the possibility of steal a big amount

maybe it's better to use only official escrow that have signed an address

But someone could buy the bitcoin address too as part of the package. The only way I can see to avoid this is if the seller is willing to do a brief video chat/hold a physically signed message in front of a camera unique to each sale.

Anything else can be transferred to the new owner, anything but not the sellers face.

dude, even if they buy the address they can't sign it so it's useless, that's the whole point of signing an address, because that address belong only to one users, unless the buyers and the selelrs are friend that know each other in real life and share the same wallet

wait if I buy the address I basically buy the private key so I can sign a message... that's the whole point of it, if you sell your account you should find your oldest address, empty it, export the private key and give it to the buyer so he can sign it without doubts.

i was not referring to buy the private key but simply the account with the address inside it, buying the private key would mean buying bitcoin inside it, which is a completely different story, in this case the original owner can change his address and sign with another msg

[EvenMatt]

sometimes you can find good offers on ebay.
cheers

[--Encrypted--]

sometimes you can find good offers on ebay.
cheers

ebay? they sell bitcointalk accounts in there?

edit:
I just looked around and looks like there's only 1 person selling it and he don't have any more accounts

[Somekindabitcoin]

sometimes you can find good offers on ebay.
cheers

ebay? they sell bitcointalk accounts in there?

edit:
I just looked around and looks like there's only 1 person selling it and he don't have any more accounts

That's why he said "sometimes".. I think that eBay took down most of the Bitcoin offers, so that's why there is so low amount of Bitcoin things.

[tyz]

Just for interest: is it allowed to sell bitcointalk accounts on ebay? i thought ebay is prohibiting selling digital accounts  

sometimes you can find good offers on ebay.
cheers

ebay? they sell bitcointalk accounts in there?

edit:
I just looked around and looks like there's only 1 person selling it and he don't have any more accounts

[subSTRATA]

Just for interest: is it allowed to sell bitcointalk accounts on ebay? i thought ebay is prohibiting selling digital accounts  

sometimes you can find good offers on ebay.
cheers

ebay? they sell bitcointalk accounts in there?

edit:
I just looked around and looks like there's only 1 person selling it and he don't have any more accounts

its true, ive had several of my listings removed a few months back for being digital goods (botted LoL accounts); imo it was probably because digital goods are hard to dispure weather they were delivered or not, makes disputed a headache for them i guess. however, i suspect that evenmatt's comment was just mindless sig spam.

[knowhow]

to any scammer invest in high ranks and join forces it would become a nightmare for those who looks for their services of escrow to attract new loans or users,but well they must know and chat ,talk with owner of the account besides here,i mean skype or whatsapp or other service,soo those way can know if those user wanna to sell account wouldnt make sense some escrow sell his or her account without warning those who make deals with him,her.

[Somekindabitcoin]

to any scammer invest in high ranks and join forces it would become a nightmare for those who looks for their services of escrow to attract new loans or users,but well they must know and chat ,talk with owner of the account besides here,i mean skype or whatsapp or other service,soo those way can know if those user wanna to sell account wouldnt make sense some escrow sell his or her account without warning those who make deals with him,her.

nobody would trust a bought account with high amount of money.. it's pretty much easy to spot a bought one
Just keep an eye on the user with you are doing your deal

[hilariousandco]

Just for interest: is it allowed to sell bitcointalk accounts on ebay? i thought ebay is prohibiting selling digital accounts  

sometimes you can find good offers on ebay.
cheers

ebay? they sell bitcointalk accounts in there?

edit:
I just looked around and looks like there's only 1 person selling it and he don't have any more accounts

its true, ive had several of my listings removed a few months back for being digital goods (botted LoL accounts); imo it was probably because digital goods are hard to dispure weather they were delivered or not, makes disputed a headache for them i guess. however, i suspect that evenmatt's comment was just mindless sig spam.

Selling Bitcoin talk accounts on eBay is just as risky as selling Bitcoin. People will just say they never received the details or the details were wrong and already changed etc then just put in a claim and get their money back.

[crazy-pilot]

People buy them mostly for signature campaigns, or they just don't want to invest the time to get to a certain status, time is money after all.

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[scumbag]

Just for interest: is it allowed to sell bitcointalk accounts on ebay? i thought ebay is prohibiting selling digital accounts  

sometimes you can find good offers on ebay.
cheers

ebay? they sell bitcointalk accounts in there?

edit:
I just looked around and looks like there's only 1 person selling it and he don't have any more accounts

its true, ive had several of my listings removed a few months back for being digital goods (botted LoL accounts); imo it was probably because digital goods are hard to dispure weather they were delivered or not, makes disputed a headache for them i guess. however, i suspect that evenmatt's comment was just mindless sig spam.

Selling Bitcoin talk accounts on eBay is just as risky as selling Bitcoin. People will just say they never received the details or the details were wrong and already changed etc then just put in a claim and get their money back.

chances of selling a bitcointalk account is higher if sold here rather than selling in ebay

[Somekindabitcoin]

People buy them mostly for signature campaigns, or they just don't want to invest the time to get to a certain status, time is money after all.

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I didn't know that there's an app for Android :O Is it real or are you just trolling?

So, people invest in a trusted accounts too and that's bad.. I would make it illegal to sell accounts with green ratings, because who buy them often do scam to get a slightly higher amount than they spend on the account and that's really bad...

[Amph]

People buy them mostly for signature campaigns, or they just don't want to invest the time to get to a certain status, time is money after all.

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i believe there is another traffic of the business around buying bitcointalk account, many do buy account to increase post or do some trading and sell them with a better price

take a look at this example, what if i buy a senior with zero trust for 0.2 btc, and then i do some fast fake trading with low amount to increase its trust to ..let's say x10, with this new trust this same account would have a value of at least 0.3...

with this simple example you can easy understand that they are not bought only for signature, there is a heavy traffic for other reasons, that may be even more profitable...