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April 27, 2015, 05:55:52 AM |
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So I've hit a snag while transferring my 10k.
I had over 4.2bn 10k, and only managed to transfer about 2.4bn of them over to the exchange for the swap. If I look on one of the block explorers, it shows the remaining 1.8bn coins on the address, however it doesn't show in the wallet.
I've run repairwallet to no avail. I've also tried re-downloading the client and blockchain, then importing the private key into a clean wallet. Both my old wallet and new wallet show the same balance though, of 79m, short about 1.79bn.
Any advice on how to get these coins loaded up into a wallet so I can transfer?
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April 27, 2015, 07:08:40 AM |
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I have a large buy order for balls on btcpool. Please feel free to fill my buy of 2 bil
That's a lotta balls my Friend. I got now just over 450 mil but I wish I could grab some more. I am going to try to get more balls or 10K before the swap..I managed to pick up more 10k now, trying to get one billion combined at least but donno if that is at all a decent amount to start with for Teeth. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) its roughly 1/4 % of the combined network if everybody swaps. not to bad. would equal 35,000 BTC.
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April 27, 2015, 07:18:01 AM |
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why my withdrawal from bittrex not appear balls from 12h wallet?
Address: Se7MWKF7ppvcDXevnxXVHFSrVk6uN7HQva TxId: 51a3a4e8ee2d2bfd1ac768f0016c4e23032ff19085fc645dcce2fcf705557599
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April 27, 2015, 08:02:48 AM |
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why my withdrawal from bittrex not appear balls from 12h wallet?
Address: Se7MWKF7ppvcDXevnxXVHFSrVk6uN7HQva TxId: 51a3a4e8ee2d2bfd1ac768f0016c4e23032ff19085fc645dcce2fcf705557599
Hi open a ticket on bittrex
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April 27, 2015, 08:15:53 AM |
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I've been a bit distracted and forgot, will we be able to send our coins directly to the new exchange for the swap ourselves ? with the option of putting them on BTCpool and letting them do it? Or do we have to go through BTCpool? we're getting close now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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#Expanse $EXP 500 transactions 4 .1 EXP 1st Clone of ETH WAVES
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April 27, 2015, 08:44:24 AM |
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I've been a bit distracted and forgot, will we be able to send our coins directly to the new exchange for the swap ourselves ? with the option of putting them on BTCpool and letting them do it? Or do we have to go through BTCpool? we're getting close now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Hi you must have you coins on btcpool to be included in the swap And they must be on there by 2 May
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April 27, 2015, 10:05:50 AM |
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why my withdrawal from bittrex not appear balls from 12h wallet?
Address: Se7MWKF7ppvcDXevnxXVHFSrVk6uN7HQva TxId: 51a3a4e8ee2d2bfd1ac768f0016c4e23032ff19085fc645dcce2fcf705557599
Hi open a ticket on bittrex I have the same problem. Have you got any response from Bittrex?
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April 27, 2015, 10:38:56 AM |
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Yep, not unexpected. I spoke with richie last night about the swap
May 2nd is the cutoff to have your coins on btcpool. We expect there to be about 6 hours of downtime for the migration between the cutoff time on btcpool and opening up withdraws on GorillaEx
ok now which address i should generate for deposit balls?? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F65bn87.png&t=665&c=fQmh61sIC0sYhA) all 3 of them is usable or just one of them?
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April 27, 2015, 10:54:43 AM |
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Yep, not unexpected. I spoke with richie last night about the swap
May 2nd is the cutoff to have your coins on btcpool. We expect there to be about 6 hours of downtime for the migration between the cutoff time on btcpool and opening up withdraws on GorillaEx
ok now which address i should generate for deposit balls?? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F65bn87.png&t=665&c=fQmh61sIC0sYhA) all 3 of them is usable or just one of them? Hi you can use 2 or 3
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April 27, 2015, 12:09:08 PM |
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why my withdrawal from bittrex not appear balls from 12h wallet?
Address: Se7MWKF7ppvcDXevnxXVHFSrVk6uN7HQva TxId: 51a3a4e8ee2d2bfd1ac768f0016c4e23032ff19085fc645dcce2fcf705557599
Hi open a ticket on bittrex I have the same problem. Have you got any response from Bittrex? no, i send ticker morning - no response
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April 27, 2015, 12:50:45 PM |
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For those sending big amounts. Just send my 10k in 500 mil at a time. No Problems.
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April 27, 2015, 01:51:20 PM |
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Yep, not unexpected. I spoke with richie last night about the swap
May 2nd is the cutoff to have your coins on btcpool. We expect there to be about 6 hours of downtime for the migration between the cutoff time on btcpool and opening up withdraws on GorillaEx
ok now which address i should generate for deposit balls?? http://i60.tinypic.com/65bn87.pngall 3 of them is usable or just one of them? Hi you can use 2 or 3 I have send my balls for 3000000000 balls to the snowballs3 address about 15 minutes ago now I still don't see any pending deposit yet, what to do? Here's address that I sent to "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq"
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April 27, 2015, 02:11:30 PM |
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Yep, not unexpected. I spoke with richie last night about the swap
May 2nd is the cutoff to have your coins on btcpool. We expect there to be about 6 hours of downtime for the migration between the cutoff time on btcpool and opening up withdraws on GorillaEx
ok now which address i should generate for deposit balls?? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F65bn87.png&t=665&c=fQmh61sIC0sYhA) all 3 of them is usable or just one of them? Hi you can use 2 or 3 I have send my balls for 3000000000 balls to the snowballs3 address about 15 minutes ago now I still don't see any pending deposit yet, what to do? Here's address that I sent to "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq" should be in your account now { "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 66, "blockhash" : "e2864f5277eee813470555a6785b46ab465c5478bf6869a8f9966dcd0191d0d0", "blockindex" : 2, "txid" : "bfb1af0f1f1933ac1bd7232b096353dbcaee6b5c0d0eb4bea289e551301f9987", "time" : 1430140449 }, "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 66, "blockhash" : "e2864f5277eee813470555a6785b46ab465c5478bf6869a8f9966dcd0191d0d0", "blockindex" : 3, "txid" : "803f0187e522e175c96965ea3d315955d108dbda32f243a655430f975537f6d9", "time" : 1430140451 }, { "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 65, "blockhash" : "447497da6c163226fce0a4eb76a48d9f180fa2727715f5a19066ccd3396a248f", "blockindex" : 2, "txid" : "c1e31715727bb0c2f9e0c5f13a391f3d0737e6e32dd0c0329dfc28cb82873441", "time" : 1430140482 } ]
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April 27, 2015, 02:26:13 PM |
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Yep, not unexpected. I spoke with richie last night about the swap
May 2nd is the cutoff to have your coins on btcpool. We expect there to be about 6 hours of downtime for the migration between the cutoff time on btcpool and opening up withdraws on GorillaEx
ok now which address i should generate for deposit balls?? http://i60.tinypic.com/65bn87.pngall 3 of them is usable or just one of them? Hi you can use 2 or 3 I have send my balls for 3000000000 balls to the snowballs3 address about 15 minutes ago now I still don't see any pending deposit yet, what to do? Here's address that I sent to "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq" should be in your account now { "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 66, "blockhash" : "e2864f5277eee813470555a6785b46ab465c5478bf6869a8f9966dcd0191d0d0", "blockindex" : 2, "txid" : "bfb1af0f1f1933ac1bd7232b096353dbcaee6b5c0d0eb4bea289e551301f9987", "time" : 1430140449 }, "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 66, "blockhash" : "e2864f5277eee813470555a6785b46ab465c5478bf6869a8f9966dcd0191d0d0", "blockindex" : 3, "txid" : "803f0187e522e175c96965ea3d315955d108dbda32f243a655430f975537f6d9", "time" : 1430140451 }, { "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 65, "blockhash" : "447497da6c163226fce0a4eb76a48d9f180fa2727715f5a19066ccd3396a248f", "blockindex" : 2, "txid" : "c1e31715727bb0c2f9e0c5f13a391f3d0737e6e32dd0c0329dfc28cb82873441", "time" : 1430140482 } ] No still not here yet http://www78.zippyshare.com/v/ixg0rgsu/file.htmlhttp://www86.zippyshare.com/v/lDGWimQF/file.html
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April 27, 2015, 02:30:30 PM |
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Yep, not unexpected. I spoke with richie last night about the swap
May 2nd is the cutoff to have your coins on btcpool. We expect there to be about 6 hours of downtime for the migration between the cutoff time on btcpool and opening up withdraws on GorillaEx
ok now which address i should generate for deposit balls?? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F65bn87.png&t=665&c=fQmh61sIC0sYhA) all 3 of them is usable or just one of them? Hi you can use 2 or 3 I have send my balls for 3000000000 balls to the snowballs3 address about 15 minutes ago now I still don't see any pending deposit yet, what to do? Here's address that I sent to "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq" should be in your account now { "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 66, "blockhash" : "e2864f5277eee813470555a6785b46ab465c5478bf6869a8f9966dcd0191d0d0", "blockindex" : 2, "txid" : "bfb1af0f1f1933ac1bd7232b096353dbcaee6b5c0d0eb4bea289e551301f9987", "time" : 1430140449 }, "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 66, "blockhash" : "e2864f5277eee813470555a6785b46ab465c5478bf6869a8f9966dcd0191d0d0", "blockindex" : 3, "txid" : "803f0187e522e175c96965ea3d315955d108dbda32f243a655430f975537f6d9", "time" : 1430140451 }, { "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 65, "blockhash" : "447497da6c163226fce0a4eb76a48d9f180fa2727715f5a19066ccd3396a248f", "blockindex" : 2, "txid" : "c1e31715727bb0c2f9e0c5f13a391f3d0737e6e32dd0c0329dfc28cb82873441", "time" : 1430140482 } ] No still not here yet http://www78.zippyshare.com/v/ixg0rgsu/file.htmlHi i see what you mean now LOL my bad there are no markets setup for Snowballs 2 / 3 thats why you can not see them on that page
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April 27, 2015, 02:34:22 PM |
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Yep, not unexpected. I spoke with richie last night about the swap
May 2nd is the cutoff to have your coins on btcpool. We expect there to be about 6 hours of downtime for the migration between the cutoff time on btcpool and opening up withdraws on GorillaEx
ok now which address i should generate for deposit balls?? http://i60.tinypic.com/65bn87.pngall 3 of them is usable or just one of them? Hi you can use 2 or 3 I have send my balls for 3000000000 balls to the snowballs3 address about 15 minutes ago now I still don't see any pending deposit yet, what to do? Here's address that I sent to "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq" should be in your account now { "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 66, "blockhash" : "e2864f5277eee813470555a6785b46ab465c5478bf6869a8f9966dcd0191d0d0", "blockindex" : 2, "txid" : "bfb1af0f1f1933ac1bd7232b096353dbcaee6b5c0d0eb4bea289e551301f9987", "time" : 1430140449 }, "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 66, "blockhash" : "e2864f5277eee813470555a6785b46ab465c5478bf6869a8f9966dcd0191d0d0", "blockindex" : 3, "txid" : "803f0187e522e175c96965ea3d315955d108dbda32f243a655430f975537f6d9", "time" : 1430140451 }, { "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 65, "blockhash" : "447497da6c163226fce0a4eb76a48d9f180fa2727715f5a19066ccd3396a248f", "blockindex" : 2, "txid" : "c1e31715727bb0c2f9e0c5f13a391f3d0737e6e32dd0c0329dfc28cb82873441", "time" : 1430140482 } ] No still not here yet http://www78.zippyshare.com/v/ixg0rgsu/file.htmlHi i see what you mean now LOL my bad there are no markets setup for Snowballs 2 / 3 thats why you can not see them on that page So what to do now and how can I know my Balls are in there!! and what if I would like to exchange to MMXIV, how can I do that?
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April 27, 2015, 02:40:21 PM |
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Yep, not unexpected. I spoke with richie last night about the swap
May 2nd is the cutoff to have your coins on btcpool. We expect there to be about 6 hours of downtime for the migration between the cutoff time on btcpool and opening up withdraws on GorillaEx
ok now which address i should generate for deposit balls?? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F65bn87.png&t=665&c=fQmh61sIC0sYhA) all 3 of them is usable or just one of them? Hi you can use 2 or 3 I have send my balls for 3000000000 balls to the snowballs3 address about 15 minutes ago now I still don't see any pending deposit yet, what to do? Here's address that I sent to "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq" should be in your account now { "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 66, "blockhash" : "e2864f5277eee813470555a6785b46ab465c5478bf6869a8f9966dcd0191d0d0", "blockindex" : 2, "txid" : "bfb1af0f1f1933ac1bd7232b096353dbcaee6b5c0d0eb4bea289e551301f9987", "time" : 1430140449 }, "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 66, "blockhash" : "e2864f5277eee813470555a6785b46ab465c5478bf6869a8f9966dcd0191d0d0", "blockindex" : 3, "txid" : "803f0187e522e175c96965ea3d315955d108dbda32f243a655430f975537f6d9", "time" : 1430140451 }, { "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 65, "blockhash" : "447497da6c163226fce0a4eb76a48d9f180fa2727715f5a19066ccd3396a248f", "blockindex" : 2, "txid" : "c1e31715727bb0c2f9e0c5f13a391f3d0737e6e32dd0c0329dfc28cb82873441", "time" : 1430140482 } ] No still not here yet http://www78.zippyshare.com/v/ixg0rgsu/file.htmlHi i see what you mean now LOL my bad there are no markets setup for Snowballs 2 / 3 thats why you can not see them on that page So what to do now and how can I know my Balls are in there!! and what if I would like to exchange to MMXIV, how can I do that? Hi well you can look in the balance page and see how much you have on the exchange if you want to sell them then i will have to put up a new market for snowballs 2 and 3 i dont mind doing that but we are so close to the exchange now
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April 27, 2015, 03:00:39 PM |
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Yep, not unexpected. I spoke with richie last night about the swap
May 2nd is the cutoff to have your coins on btcpool. We expect there to be about 6 hours of downtime for the migration between the cutoff time on btcpool and opening up withdraws on GorillaEx
ok now which address i should generate for deposit balls?? http://i60.tinypic.com/65bn87.pngall 3 of them is usable or just one of them? Hi you can use 2 or 3 I have send my balls for 3000000000 balls to the snowballs3 address about 15 minutes ago now I still don't see any pending deposit yet, what to do? Here's address that I sent to "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq" should be in your account now { "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 66, "blockhash" : "e2864f5277eee813470555a6785b46ab465c5478bf6869a8f9966dcd0191d0d0", "blockindex" : 2, "txid" : "bfb1af0f1f1933ac1bd7232b096353dbcaee6b5c0d0eb4bea289e551301f9987", "time" : 1430140449 }, "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 66, "blockhash" : "e2864f5277eee813470555a6785b46ab465c5478bf6869a8f9966dcd0191d0d0", "blockindex" : 3, "txid" : "803f0187e522e175c96965ea3d315955d108dbda32f243a655430f975537f6d9", "time" : 1430140451 }, { "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 65, "blockhash" : "447497da6c163226fce0a4eb76a48d9f180fa2727715f5a19066ccd3396a248f", "blockindex" : 2, "txid" : "c1e31715727bb0c2f9e0c5f13a391f3d0737e6e32dd0c0329dfc28cb82873441", "time" : 1430140482 } ] No still not here yet http://www78.zippyshare.com/v/ixg0rgsu/file.htmlHi i see what you mean now LOL my bad there are no markets setup for Snowballs 2 / 3 thats why you can not see them on that page So what to do now and how can I know my Balls are in there!! and what if I would like to exchange to MMXIV, how can I do that? Hi well you can look in the balance page and see how much you have on the exchange if you want to sell them then i will have to put up a new market for snowballs 2 and 3 i dont mind doing that but we are so close to the exchange now Hi friend this is my balance page but nothing in there!! http://www83.zippyshare.com/v/K9zMVlap/file.html
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April 27, 2015, 03:07:27 PM |
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Yep, not unexpected. I spoke with richie last night about the swap
May 2nd is the cutoff to have your coins on btcpool. We expect there to be about 6 hours of downtime for the migration between the cutoff time on btcpool and opening up withdraws on GorillaEx
ok now which address i should generate for deposit balls?? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F65bn87.png&t=665&c=fQmh61sIC0sYhA) all 3 of them is usable or just one of them? Hi you can use 2 or 3 I have send my balls for 3000000000 balls to the snowballs3 address about 15 minutes ago now I still don't see any pending deposit yet, what to do? Here's address that I sent to "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq" should be in your account now { "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 66, "blockhash" : "e2864f5277eee813470555a6785b46ab465c5478bf6869a8f9966dcd0191d0d0", "blockindex" : 2, "txid" : "bfb1af0f1f1933ac1bd7232b096353dbcaee6b5c0d0eb4bea289e551301f9987", "time" : 1430140449 }, "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 66, "blockhash" : "e2864f5277eee813470555a6785b46ab465c5478bf6869a8f9966dcd0191d0d0", "blockindex" : 3, "txid" : "803f0187e522e175c96965ea3d315955d108dbda32f243a655430f975537f6d9", "time" : 1430140451 }, { "account" : "69c1aac80617cc36522bb8ccd974ba90", "address" : "SgURbpUGSL3C3VFpTguRdzFhvuR35bMpBq", "category" : "receive", "amount" : 1000000000.00000000, "confirmations" : 65, "blockhash" : "447497da6c163226fce0a4eb76a48d9f180fa2727715f5a19066ccd3396a248f", "blockindex" : 2, "txid" : "c1e31715727bb0c2f9e0c5f13a391f3d0737e6e32dd0c0329dfc28cb82873441", "time" : 1430140482 } ] No still not here yet http://www78.zippyshare.com/v/ixg0rgsu/file.htmlHi i see what you mean now LOL my bad there are no markets setup for Snowballs 2 / 3 thats why you can not see them on that page So what to do now and how can I know my Balls are in there!! and what if I would like to exchange to MMXIV, how can I do that? Hi well you can look in the balance page and see how much you have on the exchange if you want to sell them then i will have to put up a new market for snowballs 2 and 3 i dont mind doing that but we are so close to the exchange now Hi friend this is my balance page but nothing in there!! http://www83.zippyshare.com/v/K9zMVlap/file.htmlPM me your account username on the exchange please
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bittrex already disabled balls market. so when the swap to gorillaex start dev??
Yep, not unexpected. I spoke with richie last night about the swap May 2nd is the cutoff to have your coins on btcpool. We expect there to be about 6 hours of downtime for the migration between the cutoff time on btcpool and opening up withdraws on GorillaEx Just to be extremely sure... We have to deposit all our coins on https://btcpool.exchange/ and it's enought, they will be swapped. No ticket to open up, no PM to send out?
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