Baltimore burns. Why?

[lister storm]

the police actually have to see you commit a crime in order to chase you or can they pursue you if
you run regardless

[bitcoin revo]

the police actually have to see you commit a crime in order to chase you or can they pursue you if
you run regardless

Basically in a high crime area can be used as reasonable suspicion to stop that person and investigate him

[lister storm]

the police actually have to see you commit a crime in order to chase you or can they pursue you if
you run regardless

Basically in a high crime area can be used as reasonable suspicion to stop that person and investigate him

thanks ...

Looting stores and beating civilians who had nothing to do with what happened to that man who died is wrong.

[grendel25]

Why?  It's because people keep dying to police in what seems like unreasonable circumstances.  But the pendulum swings both ways and there are cops fighting for their lives everyday.

Decriminalize drugs would be a good starting point so I'll go with that as a root cause:

Baltimore burns because drugs are criminalized.

[Okurkabinladin]

Today and last night is the result of the police mishandling someone they arrested, not getting them immediate medical help, then the due dying. Predictably, many people around the area w/ the same skin color act as though they knew the guy and start doing their usual protesting that inevitably gets taken over by the small and feeble minded, in this case the ghettoheads. The police screwed up but this kind of 'protesting' needs to be rooted out by the respectable members of the neighborhood.

While I understand the angle of protesters - very, very sub-par living standarts in comparison to the rest of N.A. and underemployment, I cant help but notice, that African-Americans react to these circumstances in packish, passive agressive ways as modus operandi. It is really reminiscent of extreme forms of nationalism in last centurys Europe. Just outsiders perspective 

[Okurkabinladin]

Today and last night is the result of the police mishandling someone they arrested, not getting them immediate medical help, then the due dying. Predictably, many people around the area w/ the same skin color act as though they knew the guy and start doing their usual protesting that inevitably gets taken over by the small and feeble minded, in this case the ghettoheads. The police screwed up but this kind of 'protesting' needs to be rooted out by the respectable members of the neighborhood.

While I understand the angle of protesters - very, very sub-par living standarts in comparison to the rest of N.A. and underemployment, I cant help but notice, that African-Americans react to these circumstances in packish, passive agressive ways as modus operandi. It is really reminiscent of extreme forms of nationalism in last centurys Europe. Just outsiders perspective 

Is there some group that reacts differently?

In N.A.? I see similar behavior among feminists and LGBT activists, but those are not tied together by ethnic self-designation.

[Chef Ramsay]

20.7% of Jobs in Baltimore Are Government Jobs

Within the borders of Baltimore City in March, according to BLS, there were 364,200 total “employees.” These employees included both people who lived in the city as well as people who lived outside the city but worked within its limits. Singular individuals who were employed in two different jobs at the same time are counted as two employees in the BLS survey.

Of the 364,200 total jobs in Baltimore City in March, 75,500—or 20.7 percent—were jobs working for the government. That included 39,400 state government jobs, 26,000 local government jobs, and 10,100 federal government jobs.

By contrast, there were only 11,600 manufacturing jobs in Baltimore City, according to BLS. That means government had 6.5 times as many employees in Baltimore City as all of the manufacturers located in the city.

Nationwide in March, according to the BLS, total employment was 141,183,000. Employment by government was 21,898,000. Thus, 15.5 percent of the jobs nationwide were government jobs.

More...http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/207-jobs-baltimore-are-government-jobs

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20.7% of Jobs in Baltimore Are Government Jobs

Within the borders of Baltimore City in March, according to BLS, there were 364,200 total “employees.” These employees included both people who lived in the city as well as people who lived outside the city but worked within its limits. Singular individuals who were employed in two different jobs at the same time are counted as two employees in the BLS survey.

Of the 364,200 total jobs in Baltimore City in March, 75,500—or 20.7 percent—were jobs working for the government. That included 39,400 state government jobs, 26,000 local government jobs, and 10,100 federal government jobs.

By contrast, there were only 11,600 manufacturing jobs in Baltimore City, according to BLS. That means government had 6.5 times as many employees in Baltimore City as all of the manufacturers located in the city.

Nationwide in March, according to the BLS, total employment was 141,183,000. Employment by government was 21,898,000. Thus, 15.5 percent of the jobs nationwide were government jobs.

More...http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/207-jobs-baltimore-are-government-jobs

This is of those workers who works for the baltimore local government. http://www.newser.com/story/206364/baltimore-city-worker-spent-half-his-time-watching-porn.html

[Chef Ramsay]

Surveillance planes spotted in the sky for days after West Baltimore rioting

As Benjamin Shayne settled into his back yard to listen to the Orioles game on the radio Saturday night, he noticed a small plane looping low and tight over West Baltimore — almost exactly above where rioting had erupted several days earlier, in the aftermath of the death of a black man, Freddie Gray, in police custody.

The plane appeared to be a small Cessna, but little else was clear. The sun had already set, making traditional visual surveillance difficult. So, perplexed, Shayne tweeted: “Anyone know who has been flying the light plane in circles above the city for the last few nights?”

That was 9:14 p.m. Seven minutes later came a startling reply. One of Shayne’s nearly 600 followers tweeted back a screen shot of the Cessna 182T’s exact flight path and also the registered owner of the plane: NG Research, based in Bristow, Va.

“The Internet,” Shayne, 39, told his wife, “is an amazing thing.”

What Shayne’s online rumination helped unveil was a previously secret, multi-day campaign of overhead surveillance by city and federal authorities during a period of historic political protest and unrest.

More...http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/surveillance-planes-spotted-in-the-sky-for-days-after-west-baltimore-rioting/2015/05/05/c57c53b6-f352-11e4-84a6-6d7c67c50db0_story.html

[striker7334 2.0]

If you want the rioting to stop then start holding the police accountable for their actions, this is hard because most police departments in America has a gang mentality mindset of "us or them." So 9/10 nothing long-term happens to the officers that are being punished, sure you can dismiss him...he's got another position already waiting for him in the separate county a few miles down the way. So in order to hold officers accountable I purpose the solutions that I read about in an article on zero-hedge start hitting them where it hurts the most... their pocketbook. Taking money from their paychecks and their pensions this will ensure that other officers will police each other when their all held responsible as a department for the bad officers actions.

[ibminer]

Surveillance planes spotted in the sky for days after West Baltimore rioting

As Benjamin Shayne settled into his back yard to listen to the Orioles game on the radio Saturday night, he noticed a small plane looping low and tight over West Baltimore — almost exactly above where rioting had erupted several days earlier, in the aftermath of the death of a black man, Freddie Gray, in police custody.

The plane appeared to be a small Cessna, but little else was clear. The sun had already set, making traditional visual surveillance difficult. So, perplexed, Shayne tweeted: “Anyone know who has been flying the light plane in circles above the city for the last few nights?”

That was 9:14 p.m. Seven minutes later came a startling reply. One of Shayne’s nearly 600 followers tweeted back a screen shot of the Cessna 182T’s exact flight path and also the registered owner of the plane: NG Research, based in Bristow, Va.

“The Internet,” Shayne, 39, told his wife, “is an amazing thing.”

What Shayne’s online rumination helped unveil was a previously secret, multi-day campaign of overhead surveillance by city and federal authorities during a period of historic political protest and unrest.

More...http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/surveillance-planes-spotted-in-the-sky-for-days-after-west-baltimore-rioting/2015/05/05/c57c53b6-f352-11e4-84a6-6d7c67c50db0_story.html

I have friends in Baltimore, and they had already seen an increase in police helicopters, but also a few large military planes, has been going on for about 3 weeks BEFORE the incident with Freddie Gray. Why, I don't know.....

There is also a large "blimp" that was put up by one of the military bases in the area that is supposedly used for radar. I'm not really buying that its only used for radar, but how would I ever find out any different?

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/12/18/military-new-surveillance-blimp-takes-to-maryland-skies/
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/u-s-army-launch-2-missile-surveillance-blimps-md-article-1.2049862

Although they don't have cameras now, the blimps have potential to support infrared cameras. If cameras were used, the blimps would be able to detect and identify people, car models and license plates.

[hangar18]

seems Gray was known to police for previous drug offences and at the time of the arrest was in possession of a switchblade.

[Mike Christ]

So in order to hold officers accountable I purpose the solutions that I read about in an article on zero-hedge start hitting them where it hurts the most... their pocketbook.  Taking money from their paychecks and their pensions this will ensure that other officers will police each other when their all held responsible as a department for the bad officers actions.

You should investigate this new technology called "the market", it basically does this except it's p2p so you don't need an expensive middleman political system to sort out who gets money taken from and why.

[Chef Ramsay]

seems Gray was known to police for previous drug offences and at the time of the arrest was in possession of a switchblade.

Originally, it was thought that the blade was legal and now illegal. This guy Gray was not an angel which is why I'm not having this protesting crap atm. It's all about race at this point but shouldn't be.

[Okurkabinladin]

If you want the rioting to stop then start holding the police accountable for their actions, this is hard because most police departments in America has a gang mentality mindset of "us or them." So 9/10 nothing long-term happens to the officers that are being punished, sure you can dismiss him...he's got another position already waiting for him in the separate county a few miles down the way. So in order to hold officers accountable I purpose the solutions that I read about in an article on zero-hedge start hitting them where it hurts the most... their pocketbook. Taking money from their paychecks and their pensions this will ensure that other officers will police each other when their all held responsible as a department for the bad officers actions.

At the same time, that cop involved in shooting of Mr. Brown was freed by court, at the same time, couple of states down road black cop shot white teenager (who was also agressive). No riots by white mobs, no media storm. How does your emotional argument explain this difference?

[striker7334 2.0]

So in order to hold officers accountable I purpose the solutions that I read about in an article on zero-hedge start hitting them where it hurts the most... their pocketbook.  Taking money from their paychecks and their pensions this will ensure that other officers will police each other when their all held responsible as a department for the bad officers actions.

You should investigate this new technology called "the market", it basically does this except it's p2p so you don't need an expensive middleman political system to sort out who gets money taken from and why.

Thank you I will look into it!

If you want the rioting to stop then start holding the police accountable for their actions, this is hard because most police departments in America has a gang mentality mindset of "us or them." So 9/10 nothing long-term happens to the officers that are being punished, sure you can dismiss him...he's got another position already waiting for him in the separate county a few miles down the way. So in order to hold officers accountable I purpose the solutions that I read about in an article on zero-hedge start hitting them where it hurts the most... their pocketbook. Taking money from their paychecks and their pensions this will ensure that other officers will police each other when their all held responsible as a department for the bad officers actions.

At the same time, that cop involved in shooting of Mr. Brown was freed by court, at the same time, couple of states down road black cop shot white teenager (who was also agressive). No riots by white mobs, no media storm. How does your emotional argument explain this difference?

I don't quite understand your question are you saying why is rioting justified because of him being a white officer?? That wasn't really my point I was speaking about police brutality and corruption in the different departments as a whole not really specifically about racial profiling(which does happen 9/10 towards African Americans more then White Americans that is proven). I believe that is the reason people make such a media frenzy when it involves African Americans because it shouldn't be like that, race shouldn't be the issue, but it is and that in turn continues to feed racism instead of just letting it die out with each passing generation its like a double-edge sword.

[Chef Ramsay]

Baltimore man nearly beaten to death by 50(!) "youths"

Richard Fletcher was beaten by a gang after asking two girls to stop fighting on his truck in Dundalk, Maryland.

Man, 61, left with horrific injuries and facing $400,000 medical bills after near fatal attack by pack of FIFTY teens, including girls, when he tried to break up a fight

A 17-year-old boy has been charged as an adult for his role in beating a 61-year-old alongside a group of approximately 50 other teens in Baltimore, Maryland, on April 22.

Richard Fletcher was brutally beaten by the teens after he went outside to ask two girls who were fighting on top of his truck to move along and continue their dispute elsewhere

Pics and more...http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-12/face-baltimore-you-wont-see-news

Something like this happened in Detroit last year. Everyone of these little parasites should be charged w/ aggravated assault w/ the intent to murder and the local NAACP should pay the tab plus heavy restitution. I sure as hell wouldn't have addressed any of these punks w/o a shotgun in hand and my .40 cal lodged in my Miami Classic II under one shoulder and 2 extra clips under the other.

[TheButterZone]

50 against 1 with slightly more than 50 rounds of ammo? Fuck's sake man, I would have poured a line of gasoline between me and the group, and flicked a BIC. YOU SHALL NOT PASS!

[Chef Ramsay]

BALTIMORE PROSECUTORS IN FREDDIE GRAY CASE SEEK GAG ORDER

BALTIMORE (AP) -- Baltimore prosecutors are seeking a gag order as they pursue a criminal case against six city officers in the case of Freddie Gray, a 25-year-old man who died a week after suffering a spinal injury while in police custody.

A court document that references the gag order, obtained by The Associated Press, is dated Wednesday. Assistant State's Attorney Antonio Gioia wrote that the gag order motion was mailed to defense attorneys.

Rochelle Ritchie, a spokeswoman for State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby, confirmed Friday the office is seeking a gag order. She declined to provide further details.

A gag order typically prevents attorneys and witnesses from publicly commenting on or releasing information about a particular case.

Mosby announced the charges, which range from second-degree misdemeanor assault to "depraved-heart" murder, in a lengthy news conference one day after receiving an investigative report from police. The May 1 announcement came after more than a week of protests that on two occasions gave way to rioting, prompting Democratic Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake to implement a curfew and Republican Gov. Larry Hogan to declare a state of emergency for the city.

More...http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BALTIMORE_POLICE_DEATH_MOTION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-05-16-01-05-09

[freemind1]

While the Baltimore police continue doing what they want to be going unpunished will follow the same if no one puts an end, and I refer of course to politicians.