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May 28, 2015, 07:53:32 AM |
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There are many alarm bells here. But I'm getting tired of explaining them. We all know what is going on here and its no secret they don't have a secret investor. For what reason would anyone want to remain secret!
The other thing that simply pisses me off is this "Innovation" word used for a dice site. there is nothing innovative about it. In fact its quite poorly innovated and just a dice site with the help pages 'cut and pasted' from other dice sites. Diggit is innovative, DaDice is just another dice site.
On the coding side, we all can't be perfect. My coding sucks balls, but even I wouldn't be doing what DaDice does:
Who sends entire JS functions over the socket when you click a link? DaDice does! Who lets the client send the socket details to the different servers instead of using a redis server to keep all session information on the server? DaDice does! Who advertises number of rolls as being equal to site success without even displaying a total wagered number? DaDice does! Who advertises no bots playing on their site even though their site has a bot built into it? DaDice Does!
Everything about it is just bullshit. And to pile on top, they are lying about having a bankroll of 500BTC.
If they are genuinely legit (which is about a 1% chance), they are the worst business people on the face of this planet! Which is good enough reason, in itself, to steer clear from them.
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May 28, 2015, 07:59:41 AM |
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There are many alarm bells here. But I'm getting tired of explaining them. We all know what is going on here and its no secret they don't have a secret investor. For what reason would anyone want to remain secret! If they are genuinely legit (which is about a 1% chance), they are the worst business people on the face of this planet! Which is good enough reason, in itself, to steer clear from them.
They recently claimed that they have shutdown investments so there is no excuse any more along with any excuse of not showing the funds.
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May 28, 2015, 08:00:45 AM |
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I really don't understand why they would not show their cold storage, it only really leaves one answer and that is they can't ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) I thought they was legit and to be fair they have not scammed yet so they may well be just not liking bowing down to demands which I may add I would not have either (But would in the end) just not when everyone wants me to (unless it was investors) Do we know any of the investors? Was they shown the storage surly they was? Also would not have been hard to follow your investment, if you guys was so interested why not invest a small amount and follow the money honey? Where are you investors ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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May 28, 2015, 08:38:38 AM |
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Was they shown the storage surly they was? Also would not have been hard to follow your investment, if you guys was so interested why not invest a small amount and follow the money honey? Where are you investors ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) They claimed that they provided each investor with over 1 BTC with an individual cold storage, so I doubt following the money trail would lead you to it. But that excuse lets them be insolvent or show incorrect investment stats.
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May 28, 2015, 08:56:41 AM |
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Was they shown the storage surly they was? Also would not have been hard to follow your investment, if you guys was so interested why not invest a small amount and follow the money honey? Where are you investors ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) They claimed that they provided each investor with over 1 BTC with an individual cold storage, so I doubt following the money trail would lead you to it. But that excuse lets them be insolvent or show incorrect investment stats. That's not good for them, hope they can fix this ASAP.
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May 28, 2015, 09:21:11 AM |
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Was they shown the storage surly they was? Also would not have been hard to follow your investment, if you guys was so interested why not invest a small amount and follow the money honey? Where are you investors ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) They claimed that they provided each investor with over 1 BTC with an individual cold storage, so I doubt following the money trail would lead you to it. But that excuse lets them be insolvent or show incorrect investment stats. That's not good for them, hope they can fix this ASAP. I think its too late for that. They shut down their investments soon after the incident, which is something no business usually does, and that only points to the fact that they are insolvent.
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bodgybrothers
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May 29, 2015, 12:41:08 AM |
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Yup, it feels like its being run by a teenager. The bad coding, the defensive responses and childish "I dont allow investment then" statement.
It is reason for concern that they act like my kids when they don't get their way!
A professional would just bow to public pressure and do it to save their business. No point in taking offense.
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May 29, 2015, 01:06:24 AM |
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Yup, it feels like its being run by a teenager. The bad coding, the defensive responses and childish "I dont allow investment then" statement.
It is reason for concern that they act like my kids when they don't get their way!
A professional would just bow to public pressure and do it to save their business. No point in taking offense.
Plus the sig campaign manager got neg rep for extortion, It seems a bad end of the month of dadice. I've noticed the chatroom has over like 60+ users online but i decided to ask questions and no one responded. I don't know if those are real people who are just in idle mode or bots.. :/
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May 29, 2015, 05:56:05 AM |
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Yea with accusation against ndnhc this just seems really bad for dadice, at this point who knows what role has ndnhc really on that site. Furthermore i told them in their thread that they now have an obligation to show funds not because of investments but because of the neg trust. I mean if you were they and you had that amount of neg trust and the only way to get rid of it would be to show the funds, why woulndt you do it?
If i was participating in their sig campaign i would quit asap.
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May 29, 2015, 07:33:06 AM |
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I find it odd also that they wouldn't publish their cold storage wallet. However with the large amounts of BTC invested in their signature campaign looks like they could be fully invested.
Their site is still new and most likely didnt turn profit yet from the sig campaigns.
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May 29, 2015, 10:37:54 PM |
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Yea with accusation against ndnhc this just seems really bad for dadice, at this point who knows what role has ndnhc really on that site. Furthermore i told them in their thread that they now have an obligation to show funds not because of investments but because of the neg trust. I mean if you were they and you had that amount of neg trust and the only way to get rid of it would be to show the funds, why woulndt you do it?
If i was participating in their sig campaign i would quit asap.
nah, they're still getting BTC from the signature.. why would they quit ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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May 29, 2015, 11:29:08 PM |
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threads like this helps the crypto comunity.
i deal with a lot of crypto gambling sites and dadice has always had me guessing.
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May 30, 2015, 05:01:23 AM |
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I find it odd also that they wouldn't publish their cold storage wallet. However with the large amounts of BTC invested in their signature campaign looks like they could be fully invested.
Dicebitcoin used to have a massive campaign as well, this could be a trick to lure more player or investor so that they could get away with alot more btc but it is good that they are now stopping the investment feature, less people will be scam if they decided to run away now
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May 30, 2015, 06:26:43 AM |
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Yea with accusation against ndnhc this just seems really bad for dadice, at this point who knows what role has ndnhc really on that site. Furthermore i told them in their thread that they now have an obligation to show funds not because of investments but because of the neg trust. I mean if you were they and you had that amount of neg trust and the only way to get rid of it would be to show the funds, why woulndt you do it?
If i was participating in their sig campaign i would quit asap.
nah, they're still getting BTC from the signature.. why would they quit ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Well if i was wearing their signature i would be worried that in the future i might not get paid. They could run with all the money and never come back soon enough, its not like they would be the first ones to do so, there have been a good amount of casinos that scammed unfortunately. For people saying, but why would they invest in sig campaigns and giveaways, well its simple and obvious, the more customers the more money they can steal if they plan to scam afterall.
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May 30, 2015, 07:07:29 AM |
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Well if i was wearing their signature i would be worried that in the future i might not get paid. They could run with all the money and never come back soon enough, its not like they would be the first ones to do so, there have been a good amount of casinos that scammed unfortunately.
For people saying, but why would they invest in sig campaigns and giveaways, well its simple and obvious, the more customers the more money they can steal if they plan to scam afterall.
As far as I'm aware they found themselves another campaign manager in the interim (can't recall who it is at the moment), so most of the campaign participants don't seem to be worried. What I'm more curious about is if they've refunded everyone who was invested there? I haven't looked very hard for it yet - so I'm not up to date on whether investments have been repaid or not - only that they refuse to show proof of funds.
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May 30, 2015, 07:39:22 AM |
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Why doesn't devthedev or whoever is running the show code a counting bot that will pay automatically after a line of writing and spare himself all the hassle.
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May 30, 2015, 08:02:28 AM |
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Why doesn't devthedev or whoever is running the show code a counting bot that will pay automatically after a line of writing and spare himself all the hassle.
For signature campaigns? Posts need to be checked and things like that. I was tempted to make a website where signature campaign managers can offer their services, signature campaign owners can go to find a manager, and people who want to participate in a signature campaign can go to find one but I can't be bothered. Even that would only save the log side of things e.g. spreadsheets. Managers are basically a necessity.
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May 30, 2015, 08:11:49 AM |
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Why doesn't devthedev or whoever is running the show code a counting bot that will pay automatically after a line of writing and spare himself all the hassle.
For signature campaigns? Posts need to be checked and things like that. I was tempted to make a website where signature campaign managers can offer their services, signature campaign owners can go to find a manager, and people who want to participate in a signature campaign can go to find one but I can't be bothered. Even that would only save the log side of things e.g. spreadsheets. Managers are basically a necessity. A necessity for what exactly? The forum has been ridden with spam scams and drama and people go to learn about bitcoins to other sources of information. The circle jerk is running this shitshow here anyway.
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May 30, 2015, 08:19:26 AM |
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What will happen if someone ask to stunna %post your cold storage address%? DaDice should post the proof or they are only scammer.
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May 30, 2015, 08:36:14 AM |
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Why doesn't devthedev or whoever is running the show code a counting bot that will pay automatically after a line of writing and spare himself all the hassle.
For signature campaigns? Posts need to be checked and things like that. I was tempted to make a website where signature campaign managers can offer their services, signature campaign owners can go to find a manager, and people who want to participate in a signature campaign can go to find one but I can't be bothered. Even that would only save the log side of things e.g. spreadsheets. Managers are basically a necessity. A necessity for what exactly? The forum has been ridden with spam scams and drama and people go to learn about bitcoins to other sources of information. The circle jerk is running this shitshow here anyway. That is kind of true, but Bitcointalk is still quite large and obviously the (mostly casinos) companies/people who want to run signature campaigns find some kind of benefit from it else they wouldn't pay for them. You can't really argue with the money-flow.
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