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September 17, 2016, 08:56:52 AM
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For me, if XDN is able to reach more exchanges, it can be the perfect replacement for dogecoin, high emission, stable price and low fees, perfect to move coins through exchanges


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September 17, 2016, 09:36:12 AM
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For me, if XDN is able to reach more exchanges, it can be the perfect replacement for dogecoin, high emission, stable price and low fees, perfect to move coins through exchanges
The founders of Dogecoin create it for fun and they want to keep it like that (this is what they say). If you want to make some good investments then you should look elsewhere.

I tried to contact some exchange to tell to add XDN. I was said they have to value XDN, and if it meets their requirment it would be on the list. Others can do the same, maybe something will change and XDN may become more popular.
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September 17, 2016, 10:00:42 AM
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So, nobody wants to answer me regarding pools?

Since http://xmr.poolto.be/ is down, beside minergate no other pool is up, right?

Yes that is true.
But Minergate has a pretty decent hash rate.
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September 17, 2016, 12:34:25 PM
Last edit: September 17, 2016, 01:44:34 PM by natall.com
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In order to succeed you need to attract smart peopld to your coin, preferable devs, investors with a lot of money would also help. In order to attract smart people(not just people that want to get rich by pumping shitcoins) you need to actually have a good project.

Monero, etherium and bitcoin succeded by simply being unique, bytecoin failed mostly due to the 82% premine. XDN can succeed by having
-solid anonymity(XMR seams to be ahead currently)
-Proof of activity.
-encrypted messages.
-good GUI wallet.

Of course the network effect is also important but in order to outcompete other currencies it needs to be better than them, just being as good or slightly better will result in failure.

I believe a good strategy would be to spread the awareness about XDN to dissidents, they would benefit from being able to send messages and money anonymously.

The price is only 29 satoshi now, buy as much as you can!

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September 17, 2016, 04:59:38 PM
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So, nobody wants to answer me regarding pools?

Since http://xmr.poolto.be/ is down, beside minergate no other pool is up, right?

Yes that is true.
But Minergate has a pretty decent hash rate.
As an investor this is a little dangerous. (one pool) How can we fix this? Also, having one dev that posts infrequently makes people a little nervous. ( at times he posts often(I know) (Needs a team)
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September 17, 2016, 05:10:05 PM
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So, nobody wants to answer me regarding pools?

Since http://xmr.poolto.be/ is down, beside minergate no other pool is up, right?

Yes that is true.
But Minergate has a pretty decent hash rate.
As an investor this is a little dangerous. (one pool) How can we fix this? Also, having one dev that posts infrequently makes people a little nervous. ( at times he posts often(I know) (Needs a team)

You're right.
We should ask someone trusted and who has technical knowledge of DigitalNote to help snore by acting as the middle man and answer people's questions frequently.
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September 17, 2016, 07:05:04 PM
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Quote from: Rockie1234
Since http://xmr.poolto.be/ is down, beside minergate no other pool is up, right?
But Minergate has a pretty decent hash rate.
As an investor this is a little dangerous. (one pool) How can we fix this? Also, having one dev that posts infrequently makes people a little nervous. ( at times he posts often(I know) (Needs a team)
By starting a new pool https://github.com/xdn-project/cryptonote-universal-pool not sure how complicated it is, i can provide 1.5KH/s. An increase in the XDN price would attract more miners, lets buy cheap now and start marketing in oktober.

I would suggest donating some to Dnote, i am considering giving away 1 million XDN but i need to be sure it goes to a person that deserve it. Our aim should be spot 1 at coinmarketcap.com, nothing less.

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September 17, 2016, 08:30:33 PM
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Quote from: Rockie1234
Since http://xmr.poolto.be/ is down, beside minergate no other pool is up, right?
But Minergate has a pretty decent hash rate.
As an investor this is a little dangerous. (one pool) How can we fix this? Also, having one dev that posts infrequently makes people a little nervous. ( at times he posts often(I know) (Needs a team)
By starting a new pool https://github.com/xdn-project/cryptonote-universal-pool not sure how complicated it is, i can provide 1.5KH/s. An increase in the XDN price would attract more miners, lets buy cheap now and start marketing in oktober.

I would suggest donating some to Dnote, i am considering giving away 1 million XDN but i need to be sure it goes to a person that deserve it. Our aim should be spot 1 at coinmarketcap.com, nothing less.



That's all good but no one seems to answer my question of services. We need some websites selling things for DigitalNote otherwise there is no point.
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September 17, 2016, 09:31:57 PM
Last edit: September 17, 2016, 10:15:05 PM by natall.com
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That's all good but no one seems to answer my question of services. We need some websites selling things for DigitalNote otherwise there is no point.
We are now in the development and investment phase, due to greshams law people will not be willing to buy stuff for XDN now since you get almost nothing for your money http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/bitcoin-pizza-day-pies-now-worth-million/story?id=23824128

It seams that a high market cap actually helps a cryptocurrency in many ways.

High market cap -> Services/products being offered for the coin.
Services/products being offered for the coin -> high market cap.

One solution would be automatic conversion for buying products/services sold for BTC, that would be usefull in the transition phase. I actually think direct conversion between fiat and XDN is more important, now you have to buy bitcoins and exchange them for XDN on poloniex/hitbtc. It should be as simple as possible, bitstamp is a good example.

high market cap -> a secure network*
a secury network -> high market cap.

Solution = Proof of Activity.

*this is not always the case since higher market cap also increases the incentive for an attacker. Pure proof of work is a terrible idea http://www.neucoin.org/en/whitepaper/

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September 18, 2016, 08:30:27 AM
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I believe a good strategy would be to spread the awareness about XDN to dissidents, they would benefit from being able to send messages and money anonymously.
I think if they can improve their anonymity, then since there is a segment of the web (darknet) very interested to it, it would be good to marketing over there, at the right time.
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September 18, 2016, 08:30:32 AM
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I would suggest donating some to Dnote, i am considering giving away 1 million XDN but i need to be sure it goes to a person that deserve it. Our aim should be spot 1 at coinmarketcap.com, nothing less.


Some asked how much funds do we (devs) have. I can clearly answer not much. We are not miners or traders, we are devs. We mined it with an average CPU since the beginning. We do not have rigs and we do not trade coins. This is the tech project for us. In other words we work for free. And we are ok with that.
And we are accepting donations  Grin

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September 18, 2016, 08:32:21 AM
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I believe a good strategy would be to spread the awareness about XDN to dissidents, they would benefit from being able to send messages and money anonymously.
I think if they can improve their anonymity, then since there is a segment of the web (darknet) very interested to it, it would be good to marketing over there, at the right time.

At that moment XDN anonymity is above or absolutely equal to Monero in terms of technology. But XDN got crypto messages.

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September 18, 2016, 08:43:40 AM
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I believe a good strategy would be to spread the awareness about XDN to dissidents, they would benefit from being able to send messages and money anonymously.
I think if they can improve their anonymity, then since there is a segment of the web (darknet) very interested to it, it would be good to marketing over there, at the right time.

At that moment XDN anonymity is above or absolutely equal to Monero in terms of technology. But XDN got crypto messages.
Hello there,

What do you think about Proof of Activity being one of the features of XDN, suggested by someone?
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September 18, 2016, 12:34:17 PM
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I believe a good strategy would be to spread the awareness about XDN to dissidents, they would benefit from being able to send messages and money anonymously.
I think if they can improve their anonymity, then since there is a segment of the web (darknet) very interested to it, it would be good to marketing over there, at the right time.

At that moment XDN anonymity is above or absolutely equal to Monero in terms of technology. But XDN got crypto messages.

Waiting for bag holders to start pumping XDN. Smiley

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September 18, 2016, 03:01:23 PM
Last edit: September 18, 2016, 03:22:07 PM by natall.com
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At that moment XDN anonymity is above or absolutely equal to Monero in terms of technology. But XDN got crypto messages.
I though XMR was ahead in anonymity currently(more transactions and at minimum mixing of 2), can you explain how XDN is better? is it related to the ability to send messages?

I noticed when composing a self destruction message(never sent it) that the(minimum) fee was constant 0.001 XDN no matter how much i wrote or which time limit i chose, i found that a bit odd. It seams that you cant send messages from the CLI wallet, why is that?

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September 18, 2016, 05:40:53 PM
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At that moment XDN anonymity is above or absolutely equal to Monero in terms of technology. But XDN got crypto messages.
I though XMR was ahead in anonymity currently(more transactions and at minimum mixing of 2), can you explain how XDN is better? is it related to the ability to send messages?

I noticed when composing a self destruction message(never sent it) that the(minimum) fee was constant 0.001 XDN no matter how much i wrote or which time limit i chose, i found that a bit odd. It seams that you cant send messages from the CLI wallet, why is that?

1. It is up to user to decide about mixin. Technically the same. Also XDN has almost no dust in blockchain (you can`t mix dust) due to the output structure. ANd Yes, indeed, messages itself make XDN far more anonymous at that moment. Imagine, you can pay using a secret payment ID hidden in message.
2. Generally you should pay for blockchain storage. There is no blockchain storage need for destructed messsages.
By CLI you mean simplewallet? We have both simplewallet console and RPC for messages, check the latest commits:
https://github.com/xdn-project/digitalnote/commit/01adc3c61a18e43a9c53ea6d35d302adf47d9630 Simplewallet console message sending
https://github.com/xdn-project/digitalnote/commit/bdea9dd303637f3e85d7f6e44f0ea93ef95b7871      Messages 2.0 

+Release notes 3.1.0-beta
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+- Messages 2.0 core support
+- Messages API for simplewallet
+- Basic access authentication


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September 18, 2016, 06:10:44 PM
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1. It is up to user to decide about mixin. Technically the same. Also XDN has almost no dust in blockchain (you can`t mix dust) due to the output structure. ANd Yes, indeed, messages itself make XDN far more anonymous at that moment. Imagine, you can pay using a secret payment ID hidden in message.
One difference is that Monero has a million times higher transaction fee(in $) which makes monero transactions with high mixing very expensive(i have lost at least 1$ is fees when mining and selling monero despite only using minimal mixing). Having a hardcoded transaction fee is really stupid, this was one of the reasons why i traded my 12 monero i had mined for XDN(0.00001339 XMR/XDN). Another advantage with XDN is that is is easy to have more than one wallet on a system.

I will check out simplewallet messages when i boot with Linux again, i didn't find any information about how to send them when using the "help" command. Edit: found description in the thread.

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transfer [mixin_count] [address] [-m "message"] [-ttl minutes]

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September 18, 2016, 06:39:47 PM
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1. It is up to user to decide about mixin. Technically the same. Also XDN has almost no dust in blockchain (you can`t mix dust) due to the output structure. ANd Yes, indeed, messages itself make XDN far more anonymous at that moment. Imagine, you can pay using a secret payment ID hidden in message.
One difference is that Monero has a million times higher transaction fee(in $) which makes monero transactions with high mixing very expensive(i have lost at least 1$ is fees when mining and selling monero despite only using minimal mixing). Having a hardcoded transaction fee is really stupid, this was one of the reasons why i traded my 12 monero i had mined for XDN(0.00001339 XMR/XDN).

I will check out simplewallet messages when i boot with Linux again, i didn't find any information about how to send them when using the "help" command.

only code reading, only hardcore, just kidding, will add info to 'help' in next release.

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September 18, 2016, 08:25:07 PM
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So, nobody wants to answer me regarding pools?

Since http://xmr.poolto.be/ is down, beside minergate no other pool is up, right?

Yes that is true.
But Minergate has a pretty decent hash rate.

Personally I don't like Minergate. Beside preposterous fees (you pay fee when mining and when withdrawing coins!!?!), they do have a lot of security issues, but stable pool.

Anyway I do have server ready (it is rooting in my basement), but problem I have is internet connection. I can only obtain 2 Mbps upload currently (at normal price, I don't intend to pay tons of cash just so I can have 20 Mpbs upload for XDN pool). Do you think this could secure good mining service? Those 2 Mbps are really stable.
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September 19, 2016, 05:24:12 PM
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Hello buddies,

After I synchronized the wallet I clicked the "X" to close the wallet. Soon after I had a message: "DigitalNote wallet is saving data. Please wait".

I waited for over 12 hours and it still didn't finish to save. Is it normal?


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