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Someone knows where I can download the windows wallet?
I can't find any link here!

This coin is dead...dont care about some delisting from exchanges

Not quite yet, still 0.6BTC volume on ccex 

I wonder why people still trade this. This coin was clearly a scam.

[exemplaar]

Someone knows where I can download the windows wallet?
I can't find any link here!

This coin is dead...dont care about some delisting from exchanges

Not quite yet, still 0.6BTC volume on ccex 

If we could change the code a little bit from the scam lines, so we could create a big comeback...some interested ppl here?

Nay...

But if you wish you can have a fresh clean start, for example "health coin" 

Look how agent Smith is offering mr.Anderson a fresh new start 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epNptdA4bFA

[bitrev]

Someone knows where I can download the windows wallet?
I can't find any link here!

This coin is dead...dont care about some delisting from exchanges

Not quite yet, still 0.6BTC volume on ccex 

I wonder why people still trade this. This coin was clearly a scam.

I can't believe it too. Not only a scam but like clever coin it is now a pump & dump happening.. really pathetic peole still do that.

[metamorphin]

Someone knows where I can download the windows wallet?
I can't find any link here!

This coin is dead...dont care about some delisting from exchanges

Not quite yet, still 0.6BTC volume on ccex 

I wonder why people still trade this. This coin was clearly a scam.

I can't believe it too. Not only a scam but like clever coin it is now a pump & dump happening.. really pathetic peole still do that.

I am very interested in the code. Some github sources?

Greetz
Meta

[samsunk]

Dev was a scammer - how to bust those poor lives

-samsunk

[metamorphin]

Dev was a scammer - how to bust those poor lives

-samsunk

Thanks...I know it was a scam...but maybe we could make it legit? takeover or so?

[ocminer]

Dev was a scammer - how to bust those poor lives

-samsunk

Thanks...I know it was a scam...but maybe we could make it legit? takeover or so?

You would have to reset the blockchain to block 1 as the mined coins were all mined with "fake" hash as the original devs created a way to cheat hash with some special software. The distributed coins are all flawed.

[metamorphin]

Dev was a scammer - how to bust those poor lives

-samsunk

Thanks...I know it was a scam...but maybe we could make it legit? takeover or so?

You would have to reset the blockchain to block 1 as the mined coins were all mined with "fake" hash as the original devs created a way to cheat hash with some special software. The distributed coins are all flawed.

A fork and deactivating masternode? It seems, that some nodes are wrong.

[DuckYeah!]

Dev was a scammer - how to bust those poor lives

-samsunk

Thanks...I know it was a scam...but maybe we could make it legit? takeover or so?

You would have to reset the blockchain to block 1 as the mined coins were all mined with "fake" hash as the original devs created a way to cheat hash with some special software. The distributed coins are all flawed.

A fork and deactivating masternode? It seems, that some nodes are wrong.

Wrong? WRONG? This is just....
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/003307233/53856034_24699711_answer_1_xlarge.png

[ocminer]

Dev was a scammer - how to bust those poor lives

-samsunk

Thanks...I know it was a scam...but maybe we could make it legit? takeover or so?

You would have to reset the blockchain to block 1 as the mined coins were all mined with "fake" hash as the original devs created a way to cheat hash with some special software. The distributed coins are all flawed.

A fork and deactivating masternode? It seems, that some nodes are wrong.

Huh ?

You don't seem to understand.

EVERY Block since Block 1 of this coin has been mined with a modified source which allows attackers to "fake mine" - pretending a much larger hash.

Since the nature of block chains, this invalidates also every legit block in between all the fake blocks.

Block 2 - fake
Block 3 - fake
Block 4 - fake
Block 5 - legit but fake because its mined on top of a fake block
Block 6 - fake
Block 7 - fake
Block 8 - fake
Block 9 - legit but fake because its mined on top of a fake block
Block 10 - fake
Block 11 - fake
etc..

IF you would fix the malicious code in this coin - you'd invalidate ALL the blocks because they would not go through the checks ...

You'd start from scratch...


I don't know how else I could explain... Imagine a house which is usually build on rocks - This house' foundation was made from cardboard and lots of stones on top.. If you want to swap the cardboard, you'd have to remove all stones and re-mount them after you've fixed the foundation...

[metamorphin]

Dev was a scammer - how to bust those poor lives

-samsunk

Thanks...I know it was a scam...but maybe we could make it legit? takeover or so?

You would have to reset the blockchain to block 1 as the mined coins were all mined with "fake" hash as the original devs created a way to cheat hash with some special software. The distributed coins are all flawed.

A fork and deactivating masternode? It seems, that some nodes are wrong.

Huh ?

You don't seem to understand.

EVERY Block since Block 1 of this coin has been mined with a modified source which allows attackers to "fake mine" - pretending a much larger hash.

Since the nature of block chains, this invalidates also every legit block in between all the fake blocks.

Block 2 - fake
Block 3 - fake
Block 4 - fake
Block 5 - legit but fake because its mined on top of a fake block
Block 6 - fake
Block 7 - fake
Block 8 - fake
Block 9 - legit but fake because its mined on top of a fake block
Block 10 - fake
Block 11 - fake
etc..

IF you would fix the malicious code in this coin - you'd invalidate ALL the blocks because they would not go through the checks ...

You'd start from scratch...


I don't know how else I could explain... Imagine a house which is usually build on rocks - This house' foundation was made from cardboard and lots of stones on top.. If you want to swap the cardboard, you'd have to remove all stones and re-mount them after you've fixed the foundation...

Hey OCMiner,

I now fully understand :-) Thanks really for ur patience to explain it to a noob in coding like me! Everyday I get more input!
Now, I understand either, this coin cannot saved more.

Meta

[Amadues]

How much big is this scam?
I remember I was really interested in this coin, but from the first announcements I smell scam coin...

[Epimetheus]

How much big is this scam?
I remember I was really interested in this coin, but from the first announcements I smell scam coin...

Altcoins gotta be careful.

[samsunk]

Be honest - every altcoin is scam in the end, we only want BTC

-samsunk

[Amadues]

Be honest - every altcoin is scam in the end, we only want BTC

-samsunk

How much big is this scam?
I remember I was really interested in this coin, but from the first announcements I smell scam coin...

Altcoins gotta be careful.

Yes I know it, but I think that some improve is already possible, like speed up transaction (confirmation) of each block…
Or create a "local" coin for some type of business … like this one… but probably I am a dreamer and the vast majority of alt coins are only a scam (or honeypot) .

[metamorphin]

Be honest - every altcoin is scam in the end, we only want BTC

-samsunk

How much big is this scam?
I remember I was really interested in this coin, but from the first announcements I smell scam coin...

Altcoins gotta be careful.

Yes I know it, but I think that some improve is already possible, like speed up transaction (confirmation) of each block…
Or create a "local" coin for some type of business … like this one… but probably I am a dreamer and the vast majority of alt coins are only a scam (or honeypot) .

The first try to make altcoins serious tradable begun already here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1154550.0

Greetz
Meta

[drays]

Dev was a scammer - how to bust those poor lives

-samsunk

Thanks...I know it was a scam...but maybe we could make it legit? takeover or so?

You would have to reset the blockchain to block 1 as the mined coins were all mined with "fake" hash as the original devs created a way to cheat hash with some special software. The distributed coins are all flawed.

A fork and deactivating masternode? It seems, that some nodes are wrong.

Huh ?

You don't seem to understand.

EVERY Block since Block 1 of this coin has been mined with a modified source which allows attackers to "fake mine" - pretending a much larger hash.

Since the nature of block chains, this invalidates also every legit block in between all the fake blocks.

Block 2 - fake
Block 3 - fake
Block 4 - fake
Block 5 - legit but fake because its mined on top of a fake block
Block 6 - fake
Block 7 - fake
Block 8 - fake
Block 9 - legit but fake because its mined on top of a fake block
Block 10 - fake
Block 11 - fake
etc..

IF you would fix the malicious code in this coin - you'd invalidate ALL the blocks because they would not go through the checks ...

You'd start from scratch...


I don't know how else I could explain... Imagine a house which is usually build on rocks - This house' foundation was made from cardboard and lots of stones on top.. If you want to swap the cardboard, you'd have to remove all stones and re-mount them after you've fixed the foundation...

Interesting. But let me understand better: if you don't fix the malicious code - then all the blocks are "legit" (for this specific blockchain with its specific "tweaked" code), right? And as the malicious code only affects PoW, it could be left untouched, and coin could easily continue to exist and work well as a pure PoS coin..?
Is this right or wrong..?

Sure, this doesn't mean I suggest to revive it , I am asking this only theoretically - from technical standpoint.

[MaritiJames3]

This coin was a scam to start with. Let it bleed out. After 12/12,  there will be no more exchanges which lists it.