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June 08, 2015, 12:22:23 PM
Last edit: June 08, 2015, 12:46:39 PM by Netnox
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If US would attack, UK and some other western countries would back them, so by US it should be US+EU attack Russia, basically WW3 is on.
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June 08, 2015, 01:03:43 PM
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Oh, Please USA, don't attack to my penis with your ass. lol
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June 08, 2015, 01:31:51 PM
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If US would attack, UK and some other western countries would back them, so by US it should be US+EU attack Russia, basically WW3 is on.

Only some of the EU nations would back them. Germany and France are likely to stay neutral, along with other smaller nations such as Norway, Denmark, the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Austria, Czechia, Slovakia, and Hungary. The only major EU nation which is going to side with the United States will be the United Kingdom (but this move will almost certainly trigger the secession of Scotland). In addition to the UK, the most rabid russophobe nations, such as Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, and Estonia are likely to side with the USA.
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June 08, 2015, 01:45:53 PM
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only major EU nation which is going to side with the United States .......... Grin Grin Grin Grin

You live outside of reality
The world has already won over Russia has once and does not need to even one rocket ..1989 ...
and won again.
Russia is trying to attack the whole world but needs to somehow blamed on Americans .. And that everybody knows the Germans well as the whole of Scandinavia.
you always want to blame someone else Wink sobaka
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June 08, 2015, 02:07:41 PM
Last edit: June 08, 2015, 03:53:30 PM by bryant.coleman
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Russia is trying to attack the whole world but needs to somehow blamed on Americans .. And that everybody knows the Germans well as the whole of Scandinavia.

Do you realize this list?

(1) American Indian nations (1776 onwards, American Indian Genocide; 1803, Louisiana Purchase; 1844, Indians banned from east of the Mississippi; 1861 onwards, California genocide; 1890, Lakota Indians massacre)
(2) Mexico (1836-1846; 1913; 1914-1918; 1923)
(3) Nicaragua (1856-1857; 1894; 1896; 1898; 1899; 1907; 1910; 1912-1933; 1981-1990)
(4) American forces deployed against Americans (1861-1865, Civil War; 1892; 1894; 1898; 1899-1901; 1901; 1914; 1915; 1920-1921; 1932; 1943; 1967; 1968; 1970; 1973; 1992; 2001)
(5), Argentina (1890)
(6), Chile (1891; 1973)
(7) Haiti (1891; 1914-1934; 1994; 2004-2005)
(8.) Hawaii (1893-)
(9) China (1895-1895; 1898-1900; 1911-1941; 1922-1927; 1927-1934; 1948-1949; 1951-1953; 1958)
(10) Korea (1894-1896; 1904-1905; 1951-1953)
(11) Panama (1895; 1901-1914; 1908; 1912; 1918-1920; 1925; 1958; 1964; 1989-)
(12) Philippines (1898-1910; 1948-1954; 1989; 2002-)
(13) Cuba (1898-1902; 1906-1909; 1912; 1917-1933; 1961; 1962)
(14) Puerto Rico (1898-; 1950; )
(15) Guam (1898-)
(16) Samoa (1899-)
(17) Honduras (1903; 1907; 1911; 1912; 1919; 1924-1925; 1983-1989)
(18) Dominican Republic (1903-1904; 1914; 1916-1924; 1965-1966)
(19) Germany (1917-1918; 1941-1945; 1948; 1961)
(20) Russia (1918-1922)
(21) Yugoslavia (1919; 1946; 1992-1994; 1999)
(22) Guatemala (1920; 1954; 1966-1967)
(23) Turkey (1922)
(24) El Salvador (1932; 1981-1992)
(25) Italy (1941-1945)
(26) Morocco (1941-1945)
(27) France (1941-1945)
(28) Algeria (1941-1945)
(29) Tunisia (1941-1945)
(30) Libya (1941-1945; 1981; 1986;  1989; 2011)
(31) Egypt (1941-1945; 1956; 1967; 1973; 2013)
(32) India (1941-1945)
(33) Burma (1941-1945)
(34) Micronesia (1941-1945)
(35) Papua New Guinea (1941-1945)
(36) Vanuatu (1941-1945)
(37) Austria (1941-1945)
(38) Hungary (1941-1945)
(39) Japan (1941-1945)
(40) Iran (1946; 1953; 1980; 1984; 1987-1988; )
(41) Uruguay (1947)
(42) Greece (1947-1949)
(43) Vietnam (1954; 1960-1975)
(44) Lebanon (1958; 1982-1984)
(45) Iraq (1958; 1963; 1990-1991; 1990-2003; 1998; 2003-2011)
(46) Laos (1962-)
(47) Indonesia (1965)
(48) Cambodia (1969-1975; 1975)
(49) Oman (1970)
(50) Laos (1971-1973)
(51) Angola (1976-1992)
(52) Grenada (1983-1984)
(53) Bolivia (1986; )
(54) Virgin Islands (1989)
(55) Liberia (1990; 1997; 2003)
(56) Saudi Arabia (1990-1991)
(57) Kuwait (1991)
(58) Somalia (1992-1994; 2006)
(59) Bosnia (1993-)
(60) Zaire (Congo) (1996-1997)
(61) Albania (1997)
(62) Sudan (1998)
(63) Afghanistan (1998;  2001-)
(64) Yemen (2000; 2002-)
(65) Macedonia (2001)
(66) Colombia (2002-)
(67)  Pakistan (2005-)
(68) Syria (2008; 2011-)
(69) Uganda (2011)
(70) Mali (2013)
(71) Niger (2013)
(72) Ukraine (2014)

It is the list of countries invaded by the United States.

Now who is trying to attack the whole world?
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June 08, 2015, 03:19:37 PM
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If they´re going to invade they´ll need to amass troops and materiel at a staging area or areas first. This takes time. Since there are no signs of such build-up now I guess we can safely assume that no invasion will take place any time soon. As for other attacks, nuclear or otherwise, well although the fruitcakes in Wash. D.C. are certifiable I doubt that even they are crazy enough for that.

An aerial attack might be suicidal for the Americans. Their fighter jets are good, but they are no match for the Russian S-400 Triumf anti-aircraft weapon system. Unless the Americans find a way for their jets to counter the S-400, I don't believe that they stand much of a chance. And a land invasion can be another wrong choice as well. In the past 600 years or so, no other nation has succeeded in invading Russia through the land-route.

In short, here are the challenges the Americans might face:

1. Russia is having more nukes compared to the US.
2. Russia is having the best and most powerful ICBM in the world (SS-18 Satan)
3. Russia is having the best anti-aircraft weapon system in the world (S-400 Triumf)
4. Russia is having the best Main battle tank (MBT) in the world (T-14 Armata).

US Air force unveils S-400 KILLER MISSILES to scare Putin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A85Czh9KexI
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June 08, 2015, 04:32:03 PM
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Aint gonna happen any soon, i think both parties are doogs that only bark no bite. Eitherway if it happens not only those countries are going to get fucked and hopefully nuclear weapons stay where they are.

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June 08, 2015, 04:41:27 PM
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U.S. and NATO don´t have troops capable of any meaningful ground offensive against Russia which leaves really nothing worth considering. Unless they´re crazy enough for nuclear exchanges which unfortunately can´t be fully ruled out since these people have very convincingly displayed through a multitude of war scams that they´re totally certifiable. But those scams involved opposition that couldn´t defend itself. Russia is a whole another matter.

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June 08, 2015, 04:42:14 PM
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Aint gonna happen any soon, i think both parties are doogs that only bark no bite.

With the amount of nuclear weapons these two nations are having with them (Russia is having some 8,000 nukes, while the US is having another 4,760), it will be almost impossible for any one side to achieve victory without making the planet earth uninhabitable. So they will continue to bark about the nuclear winter and MAD, but will never step beyond that.
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June 09, 2015, 12:14:40 AM
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There wont be any active war between US and Russia, because it would be just M.A.D.

The US and Russia are the only nations that have a nuclear triad - that means they have sea (submarines and other ships with rocket silos), land (silos and land based vehicles with a rocket launching system)
and air (strategic bombers) based launching systems for nuclear weapons.

It is not possible for either of them to destroy the following nuclear counter attack with a massive scale nuclear first strike.

Even nowadays 26 years after the cold war the US and Russia have active nuclear forces, which are always on alert and ready for a nuclear strike.

Btw. if it should come to a showdown my bets are on US+NATO+ASEAN+Japan+South Korea+Israel vs Russia+China+Iran+North Korea ; India vs Pakistan solo match ; South America and Africa will probaly just watch;
not sure where to put turkey and the saudis.


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i'm pretty sure there exist a counterpart for this in the US: Dead Hand
would be pretty funny if the devices would fail

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June 09, 2015, 02:41:49 AM
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Btw. if it should come to a showdown my bets are on US+NATO+ASEAN+Japan+South Korea+Israel vs Russia+China+Iran+North Korea

ASEAN, Japan, South Korea and China are likely to remain neutral in case of the WW3. China want to grow at the expense of both the Russians and the Americans. If the Americans destroy the Russians, it will indirectly benefit the Chinese. They will have millions of sq.kms of mineral and resource rich Siberian land for themselves.
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June 09, 2015, 01:11:51 PM
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I heard from rt that USA is going to attack RUSSIA soon. How USA will attack and where invasion will start? I'd like to know  Huh
 
Don't worry. i think, USA will not attack Russia. This story recalls on Cold war. Everyone know, this war was war for predominance over the world. So that and today, USA and Russia are two big world powers that would be waged against each other. USA only prepare their powers if it comes to war. Trust me, matter of strategy.
 
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June 09, 2015, 01:39:38 PM
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Btw. if it should come to a showdown my bets are on US+NATO+ASEAN+Japan+South Korea+Israel vs Russia+China+Iran+North Korea

ASEAN, Japan, South Korea and China are likely to remain neutral in case of the WW3. China want to grow at the expense of both the Russians and the Americans. If the Americans destroy the Russians, it will indirectly benefit the Chinese. They will have millions of sq.kms of mineral and resource rich Siberian land for themselves.

I dont see china staying neutral because china is the direct economic opponent of the us.
And in the end money will govern the world.
The US know that and will probaly fight china sooner or later.
Dont think the US would like to see china get endless resouces through siberia.
china has a rather aggresive foreign policy in SEA, so alot if ASEAN Member states are very careful about china.
South korea and japan have pretty much the same stance.

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June 09, 2015, 01:55:25 PM
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Russia is trying to attack the whole world but needs to somehow blamed on Americans .. And that everybody knows the Germans well as the whole of Scandinavia.

Do you realize this list?

(1) American Indian nations (1776 onwards, American Indian Genocide; 1803, Louisiana Purchase; 1844, Indians banned from east of the Mississippi; 1861 onwards, California genocide; 1890, Lakota Indians massacre)
(2) Mexico (1836-1846; 1913; 1914-1918; 1923)
(3) Nicaragua (1856-1857; 1894; 1896; 1898; 1899; 1907; 1910; 1912-1933; 1981-1990)
(4) American forces deployed against Americans (1861-1865, Civil War; 1892; 1894; 1898; 1899-1901; 1901; 1914; 1915; 1920-1921; 1932; 1943; 1967; 1968; 1970; 1973; 1992; 2001)
(5), Argentina (1890)
(6), Chile (1891; 1973)
(7) Haiti (1891; 1914-1934; 1994; 2004-2005)
(8.) Hawaii (1893-)
(9) China (1895-1895; 1898-1900; 1911-1941; 1922-1927; 1927-1934; 1948-1949; 1951-1953; 1958)
(10) Korea (1894-1896; 1904-1905; 1951-1953)
(11) Panama (1895; 1901-1914; 1908; 1912; 1918-1920; 1925; 1958; 1964; 1989-)
(12) Philippines (1898-1910; 1948-1954; 1989; 2002-)
(13) Cuba (1898-1902; 1906-1909; 1912; 1917-1933; 1961; 1962)
(14) Puerto Rico (1898-; 1950; )
(15) Guam (1898-)
(16) Samoa (1899-)
(17) Honduras (1903; 1907; 1911; 1912; 1919; 1924-1925; 1983-1989)
(18) Dominican Republic (1903-1904; 1914; 1916-1924; 1965-1966)
(19) Germany (1917-1918; 1941-1945; 1948; 1961)
(20) Russia (1918-1922)
(21) Yugoslavia (1919; 1946; 1992-1994; 1999)
(22) Guatemala (1920; 1954; 1966-1967)
(23) Turkey (1922)
(24) El Salvador (1932; 1981-1992)
(25) Italy (1941-1945)
(26) Morocco (1941-1945)
(27) France (1941-1945)
(28) Algeria (1941-1945)
(29) Tunisia (1941-1945)
(30) Libya (1941-1945; 1981; 1986;  1989; 2011)
(31) Egypt (1941-1945; 1956; 1967; 1973; 2013)
(32) India (1941-1945)
(33) Burma (1941-1945)
(34) Micronesia (1941-1945)
(35) Papua New Guinea (1941-1945)
(36) Vanuatu (1941-1945)
(37) Austria (1941-1945)
(38) Hungary (1941-1945)
(39) Japan (1941-1945)
(40) Iran (1946; 1953; 1980; 1984; 1987-1988; )
(41) Uruguay (1947)
(42) Greece (1947-1949)
(43) Vietnam (1954; 1960-1975)
(44) Lebanon (1958; 1982-1984)
(45) Iraq (1958; 1963; 1990-1991; 1990-2003; 1998; 2003-2011)
(46) Laos (1962-)
(47) Indonesia (1965)
(48) Cambodia (1969-1975; 1975)
(49) Oman (1970)
(50) Laos (1971-1973)
(51) Angola (1976-1992)
(52) Grenada (1983-1984)
(53) Bolivia (1986; )
(54) Virgin Islands (1989)
(55) Liberia (1990; 1997; 2003)
(56) Saudi Arabia (1990-1991)
(57) Kuwait (1991)
(58) Somalia (1992-1994; 2006)
(59) Bosnia (1993-)
(60) Zaire (Congo) (1996-1997)
(61) Albania (1997)
(62) Sudan (1998)
(63) Afghanistan (1998;  2001-)
(64) Yemen (2000; 2002-)
(65) Macedonia (2001)
(66) Colombia (2002-)
(67)  Pakistan (2005-)
(68) Syria (2008; 2011-)
(69) Uganda (2011)
(70) Mali (2013)
(71) Niger (2013)
(72) Ukraine (2014)

It is the list of countries invaded by the United States.

Now who is trying to attack the whole world?

We are in a BTC Forum and you guys mostly talk about physical, real weapons  Shocked
Do you know Mr. Glaser Huh
Maybe you should read this -> http://www.newsweek.com/2014/05/02/art-financial-warfare-how-west-pushing-putins-buttons-248424.html
Today nobody is going to use nukes, these are just for showing how big your balls are, financial warfare is the new kid in town  Grin

Besides that, US started with warfare, and will also end with warfare, period  Cool

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June 09, 2015, 01:56:50 PM
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Attack China first . Damn after some complaints our Country submitted to international tribunal to stop China's reclamation on Spratlys still they continue to expanding territories even without any treaty or strong evidence that the land belongs to them. Until US scout that area and Chinese government have questioned US action. Why questioned? Afraid that the whole world knows what they're doing there? We PH , along with SEA countries are condemning this action from China. Good thing US , Japan and there allies helping us. If US will have to face China , they'll face Russia too.

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June 09, 2015, 02:05:37 PM
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Attack China first . Damn after some complaints our Country submitted to international tribunal to stop China's reclamation on Spratlys still they continue to expanding territories even without any treaty or strong evidence that the land belongs to them. Until US scout that area and Chinese government have questioned US action. Why questioned? Afraid that the whole world knows what they're doing there? We PH , along with SEA countries are condemning this action from China. Good thing US , Japan and there allies helping us. If US will have to face China , they'll face Russia too.

Could you please translate your post, so we know who is who and who is going to help who  Huh

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June 09, 2015, 02:09:14 PM
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dont make Barry draw a red line. if you cross it, he will have to draw another one. you dont want the 3rd line drawn.

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June 09, 2015, 02:20:47 PM
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Attack China first . Damn after some complaints our Country submitted to international tribunal to stop China's reclamation on Spratlys still they continue to expanding territories even without any treaty or strong evidence that the land belongs to them. Until US scout that area and Chinese government have questioned US action. Why questioned? Afraid that the whole world knows what they're doing there? We PH , along with SEA countries are condemning this action from China. Good thing US , Japan and there allies helping us. If US will have to face China , they'll face Russia too.

Could you please translate your post, so we know who is who and who is going to help who  Huh

Sorry for my bad english . Not good at it.My main point here is US must attack China first. It's clear that China is now a security threat for our region (SouthEastAsia) and will be a thread in the whole world in the future. They don't listen to any countries to stop reclaming lands. They ignore UN and US appeals too. Everyone doesnt like to have a war but if war is the only solution for this so be it.

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June 09, 2015, 02:31:15 PM
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Both nations are armed to the teeth with nukes, yet, they seem to have forgotten the meaning of the MAD Doctrine - Mutually Assured Destruction.
I'm beginning to think that one, or more, world leaders may actually have a death wish, as their actions are insanely, suicidal. As it is, the world is going off the deep-end, even, without the nukes.

It's no wonder the Aliens are avoiding our planet  Wink
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June 09, 2015, 02:34:28 PM
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The US know that and will probaly fight china sooner or later.

China is getting more and more powerful with passing time. If the Americans want to fight China, then they should do it now. Right now, the Chinese armed forces don't have the capability to defeat or even to defend against the United States in a one-to-one war. However, their military technology is getting better and better, and eventually it will create problems for their neighbors.
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