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I had one of those 49-port hubs I got damaged off CrazyGuy sometime last year but I fixed and sold it 'cause bills were due. I'm kinda wishing I'd hung onto it instead. I mean my little 10-port is nice but it's not that nice. Maybe I should build more. Or get a forty-niner. I still have some 30A power supplies, and if that's not good enough it's not like I can't build one better. I mean a slight change to the TypeZero power systems as designed would get me upward of 50A of 5VDC. That'd run a lot of sticks. I could fill the hub with 250MHz sticks and get about 670GH off that 50A. I wonder when was the last time someone had 670GH worth of stick miners running together? That would have taken 2000 Block Erupters. Dang. Actually, let me do some checkin' and see if I can't scrounge one of those up.
Speaking of, I should probably post pictures of the thing full-up with proper green-heatsink Compacs running on Novak's cgminer. I think we had about 8 plugged in when I left the shop this afternoon. They'll be swapped out with more in the next couple days.
Apparently Monday is some sort of labor holiday ("Labor Day is observed in the United States on the first Monday of September to celebrate the achievements of workers and the labor movement") which means the post office is closed and, I dunno, people are supposed to take a day off work? Yeah like that'll happen, dangit I got sticks to make. So it looks like shipping will resume Tuesday.
I had 122 sticks block erupters on one pc my all time best for a pc. I have had 75 U1 + U2 on one pc A pc maxes at about 120-127 sticks. You need a second usb controller to go over.
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September 05, 2015, 09:56:04 AM |
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I had one of those 49-port hubs I got damaged off CrazyGuy sometime last year but I fixed and sold it 'cause bills were due. I'm kinda wishing I'd hung onto it instead. I mean my little 10-port is nice but it's not that nice. Maybe I should build more. Or get a forty-niner. I still have some 30A power supplies, and if that's not good enough it's not like I can't build one better. I mean a slight change to the TypeZero power systems as designed would get me upward of 50A of 5VDC. That'd run a lot of sticks. I could fill the hub with 250MHz sticks and get about 670GH off that 50A. I wonder when was the last time someone had 670GH worth of stick miners running together? That would have taken 2000 Block Erupters. Dang. Actually, let me do some checkin' and see if I can't scrounge one of those up.
Speaking of, I should probably post pictures of the thing full-up with proper green-heatsink Compacs running on Novak's cgminer. I think we had about 8 plugged in when I left the shop this afternoon. They'll be swapped out with more in the next couple days.
Apparently Monday is some sort of labor holiday ("Labor Day is observed in the United States on the first Monday of September to celebrate the achievements of workers and the labor movement") which means the post office is closed and, I dunno, people are supposed to take a day off work? Yeah like that'll happen, dangit I got sticks to make. So it looks like shipping will resume Tuesday.
Sent you a PM about hooking you back up with a set of 49 port hub plus cables and power supply ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 07, 2015, 02:46:20 AM |
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Looks like a few more details worked out and I'll have one of those 49-port hubs to play with. Which is pretty cool. Some of the bulk orders from resellers are 50 sticks, so I would actually be able to briefly max it out while testing those batches. Hey, y'all wanna see something cool? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fgekkoscience.com%2Fmisc%2Fcompac%2Ftesting_and_load_ready.JPG&t=665&c=lbz7npfcNE_XbA) That's the 8 sticks that didn't get shipped on Friday, each having cooked at 200MHz for about 55 hours at this point. There's also a fresh 21 sticks I just generated today, waiting to be flashed and burned. I should have as many again done tomorrow, which means we could be shipping 50 sticks come Tuesday. That would get us through the first big order, the three pending international orders and another two off the small queue. The 30 after that will get us through the next big batch (which is Canada GB), probably going out Thursday. That'd give us an even 100 sticks shipped. As of right now, I have 45 sticks in small buys going out after Canada, with one large buy (Venezuela) in the middle of it. So after 165 sticks the only things left to ship (as of right now) are large orders, including Australia and a few website resellers.
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September 07, 2015, 04:17:57 AM |
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sexy, would love to see a video of a 49 port hub filled with flashing lights. I have one here I'm hoping to dust off at some point when I get enough usb miners to fill it.
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September 07, 2015, 04:35:31 AM |
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I forgot I had this I assume it will work fine with the sidehack usb sticks? http://www.amazon.ca/ORICO-Adapter-MacBook-Desktop-Tablet/dp/B00EH44AA6![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FnhtmOi0W42U%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&t=665&c=bFvEF7z00JO78g) anyway forgot I had this beast from 2013 when I was gonna use a USB miner but never got around to it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I figure this will work fine but hey figured I'd better ask ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 07, 2015, 05:12:31 AM |
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[...] As of right now, I have 45 sticks in small buys going out after Canada, with one large buy (Venezuela) in the middle of it. So after 165 sticks the only things left to ship (as of right now) are large orders, including Australia and a few website resellers.
Yay! Sticks incoming!!! Can't wait to get them flashy lights!
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September 07, 2015, 07:07:26 AM |
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Any USB2 hub will work, how well it works is determined by the power available. If the external supply is (as on the link) 3A then you could run about seven sticks at 150MHz (maybe only six sticks, or maybe you could run seven at 143MHz- it would probably be a little low for seven at 150). Probably you could use a higher current supply with the same hub to do much better. Our high power hub is just an unpowered hub with beefy wires ran as extra power traces and a molex connector to the PSU for 5V in. It's crude but effective. -- novak
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September 07, 2015, 07:14:11 AM |
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Any USB2 hub will work, how well it works is determined by the power available. If the external supply is (as on the link) 3A then you could run about seven sticks at 150MHz (maybe only six sticks, or maybe you could run seven at 143MHz- it would probably be a little low for seven at 150). Probably you could use a higher current supply with the same hub to do much better. Our high power hub is just an unpowered hub with beefy wires ran as extra power traces and a molex connector to the PSU for 5V in. It's crude but effective. -- novak thanks I only have the 2 sticks from you guys coming ...so should work fine ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Considering the only ROI on these little toys is a Smile anyway I'll have like 8 slots open for your next toy ..(hint hint: think bigger) ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) again as always I and others on here as well i'm sure appreciate you guys efforts!
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September 07, 2015, 10:57:12 AM |
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Looks like a few more details worked out and I'll have one of those 49-port hubs to play with. Which is pretty cool. Some of the bulk orders from resellers are 50 sticks, so I would actually be able to briefly max it out while testing those batches. Hey, y'all wanna see something cool? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fgekkoscience.com%2Fmisc%2Fcompac%2Ftesting_and_load_ready.JPG&t=665&c=lbz7npfcNE_XbA) That's the 8 sticks that didn't get shipped on Friday, each having cooked at 200MHz for about 55 hours at this point. There's also a fresh 21 sticks I just generated today, waiting to be flashed and burned. I should have as many again done tomorrow, which means we could be shipping 50 sticks come Tuesday. That would get us through the first big order, the three pending international orders and another two off the small queue. The 30 after that will get us through the next big batch (which is Canada GB), probably going out Thursday. That'd give us an even 100 sticks shipped. As of right now, I have 45 sticks in small buys going out after Canada, with one large buy (Venezuela) in the middle of it. So after 165 sticks the only things left to ship (as of right now) are large orders, including Australia and a few website resellers. Looking very good there ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Doing very well with updating during production. I can't wait to get one in hand ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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September 07, 2015, 12:07:03 PM |
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hey hack i dont know when i will be back in rolla area but fill other peoples orders before my sticks and let me know via pm when to come get them and i will try to get out that way ive been very busy working on cars and also regular work... even turned off my 4 s1's and my s2 untill i get car done
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September 07, 2015, 12:30:58 PM |
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Any USB2 hub will work, how well it works is determined by the power available. If the external supply is (as on the link) 3A then you could run about seven sticks at 150MHz (maybe only six sticks, or maybe you could run seven at 143MHz- it would probably be a little low for seven at 150). Probably you could use a higher current supply with the same hub to do much better. Our high power hub is just an unpowered hub with beefy wires ran as extra power traces and a molex connector to the PSU for 5V in. It's crude but effective. -- novak thanks I only have the 2 sticks from you guys coming ...so should work fine ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Considering the only ROI on these little toys is a Smile anyway I'll have like 8 slots open for your next toy ..(hint hint: think bigger) ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) again as always I and others on here as well i'm sure appreciate you guys efforts! they won't do 7 they will do 5. don't forget to get some cables http://www.ebay.com/itm/221661361513?The ones above work well at freq 250 All my high speed testing has been at freq 250. Including running without a fan for 24 hours.
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September 07, 2015, 01:04:40 PM |
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Isn't it a 12V 3A brick to a hub with internal regulation? Assuming the innards are 90%, you got 32W to play with. These draw under 3W at 150MHz so that'd be ten sticks. I don't know what the current limit per port is, but if it'll do 1A you could run around 225-250MHz on five or six sticks. How many you can pack in also depends on port spacing.
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September 07, 2015, 09:47:56 PM |
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I have the same one new in the box as well I would think that will work just fine
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September 08, 2015, 02:45:01 AM |
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So today was what you might call "balls-out productive". Novak and I between us got caught up on at least a full day's worth of work, such that everything that needs to ship tomorrow (not just sticks, literally everything) is already done and tested. I put up 30 sticks today, which means we have 59 sticks waiting to ship. 57 puts us through every shipping order shy of valkir's Canada buy. Those might be ready by Wednesday.
That puts me at 49 (as of right now) remaining in the small-order queue. There are 43 large-order sticks to ship amongst them, however.
cavaliersrus, just let me know when you want to come by and I'll make sure to have sticks waiting for you.
Tomorrow I'll spend the morning on sticks, and the afternoon probably packing and shipping, and the rest of the day I need to get back to some TypeZero dev. Actually the specific thing I'll be working on will be multipurpose but the initial intent is to be used on TypeZero mining boards. I'll have more details after it's prototyped and thoroughly tested. That discussion belongs in a different thread, of course; I just wanted to let folks know I was going to be spending time specifically not producing sticks because I've already been doing that six of the last seven days and I need to get back to R&D.
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September 08, 2015, 02:46:30 AM |
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Edit: Thanks for the update Sidehack. You do amazing work. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I have the same one new in the box as well I would think that will work just fine
It will, some retailer here sell 5A psu to go along with those Oricon 10 slot usb 2.0. I'm not sure how the stock PSU will deal at 100% load 24/7 and you wont have headroom for OC, etc. But unless you have 9-10 sticks, this isint a problem.
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I have used those and they do 5 antminer u2 sticks fine 24/7/365
the 6th or 7th would be problematic.
So I expect the same with these sticks. 5 will work fine at 200-225 freq .
I have had more then 1000
erupters u-1's u-2's
ice furies
and other sticks.
Almost no 10 port hub did 10 sticks with no issues.
But most 10 port hubs with 3 amp did 5 sticks rock solid
Most 10 port hubs with 4 amp did 8 sticks.
A few 10 port hubs did 10 sticks. the older anker , orinco's solid aluminum are good cost was 40 bucks. up to 55 when the stick sales were crazy hot.
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September 08, 2015, 04:56:27 AM |
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Any USB2 hub will work, how well it works is determined by the power available. If the external supply is (as on the link) 3A then you could run about seven sticks at 150MHz (maybe only six sticks, or maybe you could run seven at 143MHz- it would probably be a little low for seven at 150). Probably you could use a higher current supply with the same hub to do much better. Our high power hub is just an unpowered hub with beefy wires ran as extra power traces and a molex connector to the PSU for 5V in. It's crude but effective. -- novak thanks I only have the 2 sticks from you guys coming ...so should work fine ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Considering the only ROI on these little toys is a Smile anyway I'll have like 8 slots open for your next toy ..(hint hint: think bigger) ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) again as always I and others on here as well i'm sure appreciate you guys efforts! they won't do 7 they will do 5. don't forget to get some cables http://www.ebay.com/itm/221661361513?The ones above work well at freq 250 All my high speed testing has been at freq 250. Including running without a fan for 24 hours. yep got them cables from way back from your previous post (yep i pay attention to you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ) ....still not here thou (china,,, boat sank probably) but then again no sticks yet so it is a race ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) none of us are gonna ROI worth a damn on these toys but then again fun fun (or in my hope when in 10yrs BTC hits say 5k a btc we can go...see we ROI'd) ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) (drank the kool aid ...saw the unicorn) ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 08, 2015, 07:37:48 AM |
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I can echo Phillip's comments regarding the Orico 10-port hub. I too had that, and my experience was that 6 was very reliable, and I never got 7-10 to work. The interesting thing is that it was during the device recognition phase. Maybe it was some kind of power surge during the initial power on, but I didn't even get to the actual hashing under bfgminer. I tried several different combinations of ports and sticks, and the key was "6 devices work great". Under Windows things continued to get worse until I got frustrated and just stopped worrying about getting more than 6 to work.
If somebody elsehas better luck than I, that's great, but my experience is that it's really a dandy 5-6 port hub with good spacing because of the empty slots.
YMMV.
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I used a few Orico ten port units with DualMiner USB sticks. They were stable with 9 units, but you had to leave the tenth slot nearest the power switch empty or it wouldn't be stable. Apparently this has to do with the underlying Orico sub-hub layout. I made the mistake of populating a hub leaving the wrong port empty because I didn't think it made a difference, and sure enough I had stability problems. Note that these DualMiners were much lower power at 1.5 watts maximum per unit. Here's a diagram from the DualMiner folks that explains it: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FF7KYlq0.jpg&t=665&c=7cktCWBvNeoGVg) So if the diagram is accurate (and if I'm interpreting it correctly) the 4 ports nearest the power switch share the same DC power. The other two sets of 3 ports have separate power. In my case I'll only have two sidehack sticks. Since I only need 4 ports, I'm thinking that I'll use the first two furthest from the power switch, skip a port, then use the next two from the next powered sub-hub. Specifically I'll use 1+2 and 4+5 from Hub-1 in the diagram. Maybe I'm over optimizing, but since I have the ports I might as well spread them around. Again, I'm not sure that the above diagram is accurate. But following the DualMiner support advice when fully populating the the Orico did help.
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