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April 01, 2020, 05:08:56 PM
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This idea is proposed for June/July. By that time the virus should be dying off because of the self isolation & restrictions on people in the UK at the present time.
Hoping so for real. Seeing South Asian countries still having cases after several months making me wonder if Europe will get ride of it faster although the appearance of the infection is relatively recent..
I just check chart and its not going to be good for many Eruopean countries as most of them have 4000+ cases every day its seems not good as this is going to be terrible for them USA already touch 200K numbers its really frustrated even all locked down and peoples now taking all things for safety.
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April 01, 2020, 05:15:31 PM
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It appears to be a good solution for a while however it may ends with a catastrophe. Putting 500 or more people (players, staff, cameramen, security...) in one place with too much close contact at least in games and training is risky. 1 asymptomatic person could spread the infection to everyone. Even if they all carried out the test and were negative, which doesn't guarantee anything, and someone from outside is positive carrying the food for example then he can contaminate them too...
Imo it is a possible solution but it requires so so many precautions!

This idea is proposed for June/July. By that time the virus should be dying off because of the self isolation & restrictions on people in the UK at the present time.

It could be earlier (I hope).  I think in around two or three weeks we could see some improvement.  Esp. now knowing that cloroquine combined with some anti biotics have been getting promising results.

We don't know that yet for sure. I know that most  of the countries are on lockdown and self-isolation orders right now but not until we see that the numbers are actually decreasing can we start to expect some improvements. Right now as of today had 4,000+ additional confirmed cases of COVID-19 bringing the number up to almost 30,000 individuals in that country. Not to mention that there is a possibility that there are these asymptomatic people still not part of that number. I wouldn't say that thing could go better as early as 2 to 3 weeks and even if it was I still don't think that the league will resume that early, we still might see some restricted movements when that time comes.
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April 02, 2020, 02:02:29 PM
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It appears to be a good solution for a while however it may ends with a catastrophe. Putting 500 or more people (players, staff, cameramen, security...) in one place with too much close contact at least in games and training is risky. 1 asymptomatic person could spread the infection to everyone. Even if they all carried out the test and were negative, which doesn't guarantee anything, and someone from outside is positive carrying the food for example then he can contaminate them too...
Imo it is a possible solution but it requires so so many precautions!

This idea is proposed for June/July. By that time the virus should be dying off because of the self isolation & restrictions on people in the UK at the present time.

It could be earlier (I hope).  I think in around two or three weeks we could see some improvement.  Esp. now knowing that cloroquine combined with some anti biotics have been getting promising results.

We don't know that yet for sure. I know that most  of the countries are on lockdown and self-isolation orders right now but not until we see that the numbers are actually decreasing can we start to expect some improvements. Right now as of today had 4,000+ additional confirmed cases of COVID-19 bringing the number up to almost 30,000 individuals in that country. Not to mention that there is a possibility that there are these asymptomatic people still not part of that number. I wouldn't say that thing could go better as early as 2 to 3 weeks and even if it was I still don't think that the league will resume that early, we still might see some restricted movements when that time comes.

^  Again, I said 'I think'.  And I didn't say we'll be totally outside the loop.  I said we could see some improvement.  Big difference than what you thought I was thinking.

Edit:  Eddie Howe, first EPL manager who took a pay cut as a form of help.  Classy guy.

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April 02, 2020, 08:19:15 PM
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Eddie Howe is a top manager, he probably deserves a job at a bigger club. He tries to make his team play the right way, there’s no parking the bus.

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April 02, 2020, 08:39:47 PM
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Eddie Howe is a top manager, he probably deserves a job at a bigger club. He tries to make his team play the right way, there’s no parking the bus.

I don't know much about Eddie Howe as a manager. But if this manager is really good for a higher club, then I think there will be clubs interested in recruiting him as a manager. Let's wait, is there a club that is interested or is he still in the club right now.

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April 03, 2020, 06:12:15 AM
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It appears to be a good solution for a while however it may ends with a catastrophe. Putting 500 or more people (players, staff, cameramen, security...) in one place with too much close contact at least in games and training is risky. 1 asymptomatic person could spread the infection to everyone. Even if they all carried out the test and were negative, which doesn't guarantee anything, and someone from outside is positive carrying the food for example then he can contaminate them too...
Imo it is a possible solution but it requires so so many precautions!

This idea is proposed for June/July. By that time the virus should be dying off because of the self isolation & restrictions on people in the UK at the present time.

It could be earlier (I hope).  I think in around two or three weeks we could see some improvement.  Esp. now knowing that cloroquine combined with some anti biotics have been getting promising results.

We don't know that yet for sure. I know that most  of the countries are on lockdown and self-isolation orders right now but not until we see that the numbers are actually decreasing can we start to expect some improvements. Right now as of today had 4,000+ additional confirmed cases of COVID-19 bringing the number up to almost 30,000 individuals in that country. Not to mention that there is a possibility that there are these asymptomatic people still not part of that number. I wouldn't say that thing could go better as early as 2 to 3 weeks and even if it was I still don't think that the league will resume that early, we still might see some restricted movements when that time comes.

^  Again, I said 'I think'.  And I didn't say we'll be totally outside the loop.  I said we could see some improvement.  Big difference than what you thought I was thinking.

Edit:  Eddie Howe, first EPL manager who took a pay cut as a form of help.  Classy guy.

@tokeweed I too am sincerely hoping that this virus disappears for good, and then the premier league can resume once again, but the way the officials plan to do it is really scary as they plan to finish the remaining season in 4 weeks and allow up to 5 substitutions to be used. Also there’s a major development as a unnamed premier league club has suggested that season continue in China, and in my personal opinion those club officials have lost their mind.

Eddie Howe is a top manager, he probably deserves a job at a bigger club. He tries to make his team play the right way, there’s no parking the bus.

I don't know much about Eddie Howe as a manager. But if this manager is really good for a higher club, then I think there will be clubs interested in recruiting him as a manager. Let's wait, is there a club that is interested or is he still in the club right now.

Furthermore that’s a great gesture by Eddie, and in a season or two I do see him managing a big team in the premier league.

Sources:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8182115/Premier-League-club-suggests-possibility-finishing-current-season-China.html

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52123202

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11277408/premier-league-restart-july-four-weeks/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-league-clubs-want-use-21797603


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April 03, 2020, 07:04:48 AM
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Restarting the league albeit behind closed doors still exposes a lot of individuals to potential infection. So this action can only be implemented when the virus spread has been efficiently managed and contained within the entire country as football requires travel and lots of contacts. All deliberations is dependent on how the nation handles the pandemic in the coming weeks.

Also class act frow Howe, I hope other higher earning staffs can take similar steps so that the not playing staff can remain on the payroll.

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April 03, 2020, 10:10:21 AM
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Also there’s a major development as a unnamed premier league club has suggested that season continue in China, and in my personal opinion those club officials have lost their mind.
Whoever submitted that dumb proposal should get sacked [not that they're going to accept it but why would you go back to a place that kickstarted the spread of this virus + I just read another city in China is now under a quarantine again].

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April 03, 2020, 11:55:10 AM
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Also there’s a major development as a unnamed premier league club has suggested that season continue in China, and in my personal opinion those club officials have lost their mind.
If the season can not continue in England, it should be stop at the last round and decision has to be made somehow to choose the championship and qualified clubs for next seasons of Champions League, and Europa League. There is no reason to transfer all rest matches of Premier League in any other European nations and sure not never be in China. Any decision (despite of continute rest matches and finish the season) will create massive controversies and complaints but the proposal will never be taken into consideration.

There are some matches of Supercup of Italy were taken place in China but to move the whole league to any nation is unrealistic. Additionally, we are facing a pandemic.
Whoever submitted that dumb proposal should get sacked [not that they're going to accept it but why would you go back to a place that kickstarted the spread of this virus + I just read another city in China is now under a quarantine again].
There are many nations and governments don't believe data on the Wuhan epidemic that is given by Chinese government so it is very risky to apply such dumb idea and put all clubs, players and staffs under unknown severity in China.

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There are many nations and governments don't believe data on the Wuhan epidemic that is given by Chinese government so it is very risky to apply such dumb idea and put all clubs, players and staffs under unknown severity in China.
You are right, mate. Most countries in the world don't trust in China lately. Not only about the data, but how China blames USA as the cause of this coronavirus. It shows an irresponsible attitude, so how can we trust the Chinese government to guarantee security while there. With this reality, I'm surprised that there is an idea to continue the season in China. How can?? It is a stupid idea ever, they don't use their brain to think I guess. They can't do that, it is a careless idea and too risky to apply.

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April 03, 2020, 12:37:38 PM
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I think the premier league board should perhaps stop accepting suggestions at this point, the league is suspended already and it should remain as that. Focus should be diverted on how to help people recover from their illness.

Manchester united have decided to help fight the virus by donating 30% of their wages to NHS, a big move to support the cause, hopefully other premier league top 6 does something similar.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8184201/Manchester-United-stars-donate-NHS-coronavirus-fight-taking-30-wage-cut.html

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We should hear more this afternoon, I saw that the PL are meeting officials from every club via video call. Hopefully we get clarification that the season WILL be completed.

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Eddie Howe is a top manager, he probably deserves a job at a bigger club. He tries to make his team play the right way, there’s no parking the bus.

I don't know much about Eddie Howe as a manager. But if this manager is really good for a higher club, then I think there will be clubs interested in recruiting him as a manager. Let's wait, is there a club that is interested or is he still in the club right now.

He might be good but he is not a popular name..
Howe is not the manager who would savor the fans when the board of a team announces his signing. Usually, boards try to sign a big name in order to take the fans on their behalf.
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 The best case for them right now is to give a break and squeeze in the leagues together. It is really not all that impossible. They could simply just wait until there is no more corona, when people are allowed to go outside and when there is a cure for it etc etc. When all of this is over, it could be as further as next season, but they can resume the league from when it stopped by october-november, or even in 2021. Instead of teams playing 1 game each, they could just play 2 games each and that would cut the league time in half. So what they can do is start the games back up, play games 2-3 times a week, end the current league, than start the other one probably like 2 weeks later, and than do the 2-3 games a week thing again and finish that on time as well, or maybe finish it a bit later, during summer.

 This allows teams to both go out during safe time, plus allows them to finish without really killing themselves neither, these are professional young athletes who make millions of dollars, they should be fine playing 2-3 games a week.

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April 03, 2020, 03:41:37 PM
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Restarting the league albeit behind closed doors still exposes a lot of individuals to potential infection. So this action can only be implemented when the virus spread has been efficiently managed and contained within the entire country as football requires travel and lots of contacts. All deliberations is dependent on how the nation handles the pandemic in the coming weeks.

Also class act frow Howe, I hope other higher earning staffs can take similar steps so that the not playing staff can remain on the payroll.

Yup. We think it is a safe bet,,, but these guys would all have to be totally screened and maybe even quarantined under proper monitoring first to ensure not one of them is going to spread it to the 500 or so people who will be there. I wonder though if they could even do like, set up all the cameras, and stuff first. and just have remote control camera and linesmen, just 22 players plus main referee could they do it?

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April 03, 2020, 03:49:45 PM
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In my opinion, both the premier league and all other leagues can be delayed completely this year. Next year, all leagues can be played together earlier or together with a compressed fixture. In this process, league cups can be canceled for 1 year in order to make the fixture more comfortable.

Again, in my opinion, UEFA competitions can be played compressed one after the other at the beginning of next season. To speed up the process, all matches can be played in a city. Of course, all these assumptions are possible if there is a solution for Corona virus until this summer.

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- A proposal of 30 per cent wage cuts for players has been made.
- Support for the lower leagues has been determined, and a £20 million donation to the NHS as well.

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April 03, 2020, 04:46:45 PM
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We should hear more this afternoon, I saw that the PL are meeting officials from every club via video call. Hopefully we get clarification that the season WILL be completed.
If all have taken the agreement in the video call of course this season's league will be finished, EPL officials certainly this season want to finish and there will be champions but there is still a polemic going on about the decision so that it is more fortunate the first compared to its lower club and how is it nasih 5th place clubs who want to keep chasing UCL in the next season while the EPL match is still left.

Whatever the decision, I really appreciate it because I think it's the best solution to find answers for other leagues.

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Full Premier League Statement -

https://www.premierleague.com/news/1651836

Key points

- League will resume when it is safe to do so (not early May as originally stated)
- A proposal of 30 per cent wage cuts for players has been made.
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Full Premier League Statement -

https://www.premierleague.com/news/1651836

Key points

- League will resume when it is safe to do so (not early May as originally stated)
- A proposal of 30 per cent wage cuts for players has been made.
- Support for the lower leagues has been determined, and a £20 million donation to the NHS as well.
It seems our players are not in that bad position comparing to other EU league players. Some of them are thinking to cut 70% which is not something very fair I think. Anyway, this is very hard time we are going through and seeing all these community work proposal are some good steps by the league committee.
70% is really big amount I am feeling its not fair and 30% is really OK as this will help both parties for this effected season but right now most chances we will have complete season in coming weeks in few European countries as they are sure about this all.
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