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playing without supporters will certainly harm the home team. but this will always be a good opportunity for the opposing team. in the absence of fan support, chances are the opposing team will play more relaxed. surely this can be a more interesting game because it could be the home team who will be mentally pressured. especially for matches between top teams.
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June 06, 2020, 11:50:32 AM |
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playing without supporters will certainly harm the home team. but this will always be a good opportunity for the opposing team. in the absence of fan support, chances are the opposing team will play more relaxed. surely this can be a more interesting game because it could be the home team who will be mentally pressured. especially for matches between top teams.
It’s far from ideal but any football back is good for me. I did see somewhere online that clubs are looking at the option of putting crowd noises loudly through the stadium speakers to create a more normal match day atmosphere.
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June 06, 2020, 11:59:28 AM |
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Bring it on, it’s only a matter of time until we’re crowned champions. I hope liverpool will return with more determination to win all the remaining games and be a champion with a big difference of goals in relation to the second place.
I wonder how the coaches of these teams are sleeping: each next game will be very important for these teams because it will dictate the final position they will occupy, I imagine that Mourinho must be more tense because his team does not have many players who score many goals and that will be a big problem, as far as I knew Harry Kane will be back and Mourinho will face Manchester United and has a better chance of losing in that game
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June 06, 2020, 12:23:24 PM |
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^ It's better than nothing. I miss watching grown men run the ball around. Lolol. Anyway you guys think mext season is will start too? I'm not so hopeful tbh. I think these last few fixtures could the last ones we'll enjoy til next year. IMHO. Last I read the plan is to start the next season as normal, but I guess things could change once this one is completed. Having an entire season behind closed doors could cause a lot of financial difficulties for clubs, but then again not playing also would. Maybe they'll start to televise more games to make up for lost revenues. I guess they'd have to get more creative then. Virtual fans that you could control thru a clicker app anybody? They're gonna be for sale soon in a store near you.
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June 06, 2020, 12:49:48 PM |
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playing without supporters will certainly harm the home team. but this will always be a good opportunity for the opposing team. in the absence of fan support, chances are the opposing team will play more relaxed. surely this can be a more interesting game because it could be the home team who will be mentally pressured. especially for matches between top teams.
I don't think this will be dangerous for the hosts but there is no income to the team now because the match is without supporters. The host is certainly stronger now mentally because the match without their supporters is more relaxed because this is the first time the game for them might be without any support from the team or opponents so that the second match will be more relaxed until the end of the match. It is enough that we know that they are not mentally strong for fear of being infected so that this could trigger their quietness between the 2 teams.
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June 06, 2020, 12:52:24 PM |
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playing without supporters will certainly harm the home team. but this will always be a good opportunity for the opposing team. in the absence of fan support, chances are the opposing team will play more relaxed. surely this can be a more interesting game because it could be the home team who will be mentally pressured. especially for matches between top teams.
It’s far from ideal but any football back is good for me. I did see somewhere online that clubs are looking at the option of putting crowd noises loudly through the stadium speakers to create a more normal match day atmosphere. The same thing applies to any other team. Those away team will play some home game as well however if they think this is just some kinda neutral game without any home or away side then it wont do any effect to any of those team Actually some player would find it more relaxing without having anything to worry about on the field. Some young player gets nervous in a crowded game for sure
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June 06, 2020, 04:05:33 PM |
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Only Diego Simeone of A. Madrid seems to be a manager who can and want to build up a strong team with limited transfer fund. I don't know Simeone changed his style since the transfer of Joao Felix or not and we need to wait for next 1 or 2 transfer season to see how his transfer and management styles change.
Simeone is a good example, yes, but Pochettino is an even better one in my opinion. The results he had in England with Tottenham were amazing and considering he basically did not spend any money in the process makes him my current favorite for the 'overachiever' role. If we look back and take examples from earlier, I think we cannot find a better one than Wenger. His Arsenal was built without any real spending and he lost it only in the last 5 years or so. It worked for more than 10 before that and his legacy to football is quite big.
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June 06, 2020, 05:25:50 PM |
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If we look back and take examples from earlier, I think we cannot find a better one than Wenger. His Arsenal was built without any real spending and he lost it only in the last 5 years or so. It worked for more than 10 before that and his legacy to football is quite big.
You forgot that Back then, there werent as many competitive club in premier league. Chelsea was still not a top club until they spend quite alot to bring in more top players. Manchester City was not the same as they are today and Liverpool was still struggling back then. So Wenger literally could get decent result without spending too much It is different nowadays, You need to put in some extra money + extra effort on coach / strategy ( More on strategy/coach probably ). Take a look at Mourinho when he was still in Manchester United. He couldnt give any decent result even with all those top star player in the club
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June 06, 2020, 06:08:35 PM |
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I guess they'd have to get more creative then. Virtual fans that you could control thru a clicker app anybody? They're gonna be for sale soon in a store near you. Virtual fans? that would be cool... but you know what's cooler? This IMO the only ones losing any sleep are Chris Wilder because his team is overachieving and Bruno because Wolves have the gunners and spurs just a few points behind them. the rest are used to working under pressure since they're in a top club so fighting for a place in the top spots of league table is just another day at the office.
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What's you guys take? Check this out, premier league starts, the balance is shifted - maybe because of long term sidelines of football- Liverpool loses that thing they had going, thing doesn't Start going jolly good for them, and man city starts to close in on them, Do anyone think the premier league this season is not yet won and lost and things can still take another turn
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I doubt that all of them feels like they have a chance to be at the top, when you are at the late stages of the league the next seasons talks start. I have been involved with some teams before (marketing related, not football related) but even I know that they start to consider what they will do next year instead of focusing on this year when it is this late in the league.
Even if you are at 9th spot like Arsenal and could end up in the top 5, you do not really focus on that because for one that is unlikely, and for the real reason they want to be very high, they want to win the title, and in order to do that they can't focus on this season anymore, they start talking about what changes they could do to get the title next year or the year after that very early on the season, they probably talked about it during all of this pandemic period as well.
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What's you guys take? Check this out, premier league starts, the balance is shifted - maybe because of long term sidelines of football- Liverpool loses that thing they had going, thing doesn't Start going jolly good for them, and man city starts to close in on them, Do anyone think the premier league this season is not yet won and lost and things can still take another turn
i think that that one is really impossible, for Liverpool not getting the title, do not see any option for that to happen City would not collect more points than Liverpool now has, and Liverpool can lose all matches until the end, they will get the title, but do think that they will continue to play as before the pandemic and get the title in a few rounds (two or three i guess)
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June 06, 2020, 08:51:40 PM |
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i think that that one is really impossible, for Liverpool not getting the title, do not see any option for that to happen City would not collect more points than Liverpool now has, and Liverpool can lose all matches until the end, they will get the title, but do think that they will continue to play as before the pandemic and get the title in a few rounds (two or three i guess)
There is no way it will happen. Liverpool will have the title, they can almost retire the team for the rest of the year and get all 0-3 and they have a chance to winning anyway. They cannot end the season without the title with such advantage on the second even if they will stop again the season.
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June 06, 2020, 11:03:20 PM Last edit: June 07, 2020, 12:15:11 AM by jayce |
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Well you would think or expect that, but the first game back being the derby might not be easy, especially away. Maybe they lose or draw that, beat Palace, then lose to City, which wouldn't surprise me with it being away. They're all games I'll be watching though. Liverpool might start to panic if they lose all three of them Haha but since it's just 1.4 kms away from Anfield, there is no home advantage on this derby for Everton. Like what LFC_ said, their fans are crazy indeed, but none of them would be in the stadium. And yeah, Liverpool is well known as a team that easily being panic in the rest of Premier League season lol. Hope they dont ruin it this time. I was pessimist that Premier League would continue initially, but now knowing the game is coming next week, I can't hold this excitement lol.
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June 06, 2020, 11:59:04 PM |
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I doubt that all of them feels like they have a chance to be at the top, when you are at the late stages of the league the next seasons talks start. I have been involved with some teams before (marketing related, not football related) but even I know that they start to consider what they will do next year instead of focusing on this year when it is this late in the league.
Even if you are at 9th spot like Arsenal and could end up in the top 5, you do not really focus on that because for one that is unlikely, and for the real reason they want to be very high, they want to win the title, and in order to do that they can't focus on this season anymore, they start talking about what changes they could do to get the title next year or the year after that very early on the season, they probably talked about it during all of this pandemic period as well.
I agree with your thoughts, I also think that the rest of the season's matches will not be that interesting. Besides the champion already almost certain liverpool, all teams have lost interest in pursuing the top position this season. Because they are more focused talk about next season's match, which is more interesting to talk about. Especially changes in the composition of the players, for example Chelsea which has brought in several new players.
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June 07, 2020, 05:46:25 AM |
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Simeone is a good example, yes, but Pochettino is an even better one in my opinion. The results he had in England with Tottenham were amazing and considering he basically did not spend any money in the process makes him my current favorite for the 'overachiever' role.
If we look back and take examples from earlier, I think we cannot find a better one than Wenger. His Arsenal was built without any real spending and he lost it only in the last 5 years or so. It worked for more than 10 before that and his legacy to football is quite big.
Pochettino is a good manager too and this is a reason Mourinho gave very good words for Pochettino in the first press conference in Spurs after taking over the manager position of Pochettino. However, to compare he and Simeone, I still think Simeone is better because Spurs over many years have a good financial status, that is not what existed with A.Madrid when Simeone became their manager. I knew that Pochettino suffered some losses of key players over seasons because of the transfer strategy of the director but he had better management condition than Simeone. And of course they have luck to build up a strong team and had successes
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June 07, 2020, 05:55:42 AM |
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Simeone is a good example, yes, but Pochettino is an even better one in my opinion. The results he had in England with Tottenham were amazing and considering he basically did not spend any money in the process makes him my current favorite for the 'overachiever' role.
If we look back and take examples from earlier, I think we cannot find a better one than Wenger. His Arsenal was built without any real spending and he lost it only in the last 5 years or so. It worked for more than 10 before that and his legacy to football is quite big.
Pochettino is a good manager too and this is a reason Mourinho gave very good words for Pochettino in the first press conference in Spurs after taking over the manager position of Pochettino. However, to compare he and Simeone, I still think Simeone is better because Spurs over many years have a good financial status, that is not what existed with A.Madrid when Simeone became their manager. I knew that Pochettino suffered some losses of key players over seasons because of the transfer strategy of the director but he had better management condition than Simeone. And of course they have luck to build up a strong team and had successes Usually it is not the manager's fault fitted team is not succeeding well. Atletico and Spurs have different plans when building a team. For example you can see that Tottenham is more relied on English players or native ones. You cannot blame pochettino for that and yy cannot compare his work to simeone as well.
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June 07, 2020, 06:39:28 AM |
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Simeone is a good example, yes, but Pochettino is an even better one in my opinion. The results he had in England with Tottenham were amazing and considering he basically did not spend any money in the process makes him my current favorite for the 'overachiever' role.
If we look back and take examples from earlier, I think we cannot find a better one than Wenger. His Arsenal was built without any real spending and he lost it only in the last 5 years or so. It worked for more than 10 before that and his legacy to football is quite big.
Pochettino is a good manager too and this is a reason Mourinho gave very good words for Pochettino in the first press conference in Spurs after taking over the manager position of Pochettino. However, to compare he and Simeone, I still think Simeone is better because Spurs over many years have a good financial status, that is not what existed with A.Madrid when Simeone became their manager. I knew that Pochettino suffered some losses of key players over seasons because of the transfer strategy of the director but he had better management condition than Simeone. And of course they have luck to build up a strong team and had successes Usually it is not the manager's fault fitted team is not succeeding well. Atletico and Spurs have different plans when building a team. For example you can see that Tottenham is more relied on English players or native ones. You cannot blame pochettino for that and yy cannot compare his work to simeone as well. Every coach must have a different strategy in which Pochettino might rely on English players / original players because they know their talents can be relied on even before being fired from Spurs able to reach the UCL Cup final even though it must be defeated by Liverpool as well. Whereas Simeone knows the strategy at the end like yesterday which was able to conquer Liverpool on the home turf even this is also a good achievement so I think Simeone and Pochettino are the best coaches who have ever become successful managers.
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June 07, 2020, 10:25:24 AM |
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It’s far from ideal but any football back is good for me. I did see somewhere online that clubs are looking at the option of putting crowd noises loudly through the stadium speakers to create a more normal match day atmosphere.
certainly not just you, soccer without the supporters shouting like not football. But this is a condition that must occur in the meantime. The host is certainly stronger now mentally because the match without their supporters is more relaxed because this is the first time the game for them might be without any support from the team or opponents so that the second match will be more relaxed until the end of the match.
Maybe this can happen when the next match the team will be more relaxed with the game without supporters. However, that must be considered are young players from opponents who do not have a good mentality when competing in front of the host supporters. They may be able to show a more optimal game without any pressure from the host's chants. That why I said it will more interesting.
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June 07, 2020, 10:51:46 AM |
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The host is certainly stronger now mentally because the match without their supporters is more relaxed because this is the first time the game for them might be without any support from the team or opponents so that the second match will be more relaxed until the end of the match.
Maybe this can happen when the next match the team will be more relaxed with the game without supporters. However, that must be considered are young players from opponents who do not have a good mentality when competing in front of the host supporters. They may be able to show a more optimal game without any pressure from the host's chants. That why I said it will more interesting. Well young players will be quite relaxed when playing at the host but I think here young players should be able to show their best performances because here they can play optimally without blasphemous singing to players who are not liked by their supporters, but we will just see a little bit in the next match because there were no fans screaming on the field
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