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June 11, 2020, 01:27:31 PM
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The problem is piracy in Saudi Arabia, illegal transfer of Premiership matches to Saudi Arabia.

I was a little confused by your post. after I try to double check the references you mentioned using the translation tool, the main problem is broadcasting live streaming illegally for every match broadcast by BeIN, as the holder of broadcast rights in that country.

In my opinion, this decision is unlikely to be so influential, because live streaming piracy can be carried out by all countries that still have weak regulatory systems on this matter. however, this was a decision of a federation which certainly had good judgment.
It is related to BeIN, which hold the broadcast rights as you mentioned, being illegally hacked by BeOutQ which is running from Saudi Arabia and is believed to be state sponsored.
BeIN <> BeOutQ
Be=Be, In <> out and Q = Qatar which is under heavy pressure and isolation from KSA, UAE, Bahrain and Egypt. Of course you know the human rights of those countries, money laundering...
The problem of Newcastle raised since people trying to get it are related to Mr chainsaw (MBS) if not himself in person...which is disgusting, shameful and a disgrace for everyone.

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June 11, 2020, 01:47:55 PM
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The problem is piracy in Saudi Arabia, illegal transfer of Premiership matches to Saudi Arabia.

I was a little confused by your post. after I try to double check the references you mentioned using the translation tool, the main problem is broadcasting live streaming illegally for every match broadcast by BeIN, as the holder of broadcast rights in that country.

In my opinion, this decision is unlikely to be so influential, because live streaming piracy can be carried out by all countries that still have weak regulatory systems on this matter. however, this was a decision of a federation which certainly had good judgment.

I also think that illegal broadcasting have no significant impact because through many online websites you can stream your Premier League games to your Tv or any device of your choice nowadays and this is not a problem of Saudi Arabia but of all the world.

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June 11, 2020, 03:36:59 PM
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The problem is piracy in Saudi Arabia, illegal transfer of Premiership matches to Saudi Arabia.

I was a little confused by your post. after I try to double check the references you mentioned using the translation tool, the main problem is broadcasting live streaming illegally for every match broadcast by BeIN, as the holder of broadcast rights in that country.

In my opinion, this decision is unlikely to be so influential, because live streaming piracy can be carried out by all countries that still have weak regulatory systems on this matter. however, this was a decision of a federation which certainly had good judgment.

I also think that illegal broadcasting have no significant impact because through many online websites you can stream your Premier League games to your Tv or any device of your choice nowadays and this is not a problem of Saudi Arabia but of all the world.
Although it is something common but it remain illegal. Not being caught doesn't mean they are fine for doing it unless they live in a country without specific regulations. Now when it comes to something broadcasted, sponsored or even founded by a government then this is another serious story. I believe there is a paper written by FIFA or another organisation i forget that confirms these claims and it will be published later AFAIK.
Personally I hope that MBS doesn't involve in Newcastle or any other club in major leagues with his bloody moneh.

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June 11, 2020, 03:46:40 PM
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 Its not really even about having bad regulations or anything, you can watch movies and tv shows because usually they are not live, whereas games are live, yet they do exist all around the world, you can find torrent of any movie you want. Which means even if you do not watch the games live, you know %100 chance you can download it and watch it a day later at worst.

 On top of that, I know websites that have around 10 different language options for streaming games illegally, here I am in my country and I can watch the british broadcast of premier leagues whenever I want to. Normally it is aired only in UK and its not given to other nations, is there premier league games live on other nations? Sure there is but they are in their own languages, this is the OG live broadcast I am talking about and even that is available if you know where you are looking at.

 So illegal streaming is a problem in EVERY nation, not just in some of them.

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June 11, 2020, 03:53:28 PM
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A minutes silence before games in an empty stadium?  Grin

The problem is piracy in Saudi Arabia, illegal transfer of Premiership matches to Saudi Arabia.

I was a little confused by your post. after I try to double check the references you mentioned using the translation tool, the main problem is broadcasting live streaming illegally for every match broadcast by BeIN, as the holder of broadcast rights in that country.

In my opinion, this decision is unlikely to be so influential, because live streaming piracy can be carried out by all countries that still have weak regulatory systems on this matter. however, this was a decision of a federation which certainly had good judgment.

I also think that illegal broadcasting have no significant impact because through many online websites you can stream your Premier League games to your Tv or any device of your choice nowadays and this is not a problem of Saudi Arabia but of all the world.

It has an impact as many people will just go for illegal streams than pay full price for legitimate content, but it seems a little weird that they're targeting them when there's plenty of other streaming services. It's alleged that the pirate TV station in question is Saudi funded but I haven't seen any concrete evidence for that. I don't think having teams owned by states is a good idea though. Sadly it will probably become more common as buying a football team is a good way to funnel money through so more oil based states like Russia and Saudi will start buying more. They probably will just start buying them through shell companies if they get denied. There's always ways to get around restrictions.

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June 11, 2020, 04:44:57 PM
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Jordan Sancho is said to be 120 million euro in value right now on transfarmarkt right now, it is really not that easy to get a player like that. Of course, he would be amazing in Liverpool but lets be honest he would probably be amazing anywhere he goes. I do not doubt his talents but I doubt if Liverpool could spend that much money during the worst financial situation of football has ever been in just to get one more player.

Liverpool is already leading the league in a record breaking point situation and I feel like maybe they would be just enough without any transfers and spending any money. That way they could just wait another year, already got the title, and just focus on next year, that way they could spend a lot less money or at least see how finances will be like.
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June 11, 2020, 05:02:04 PM
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Jordan Sancho is said to be 120 million euro in value right now on transfarmarkt right now, it is really not that easy to get a player like that. Of course, he would be amazing in Liverpool but lets be honest he would probably be amazing anywhere he goes. I do not doubt his talents but I doubt if Liverpool could spend that much money during the worst financial situation of football has ever been in just to get one more player.

Liverpool is already leading the league in a record breaking point situation and I feel like maybe they would be just enough without any transfers and spending any money. That way they could just wait another year, already got the title, and just focus on next year, that way they could spend a lot less money or at least see how finances will be like.

Sancho would be a great signing for Liverpool, I’d love us to sign him, he’d fight with Mane, Firmino & Salah for a starting spot in the attacking positions. He’d cost a lot but he’s so young, he can be a top player for over 10 years.

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Jordan Sancho is said to be 120 million euro in value right now on transfarmarkt right now, it is really not that easy to get a player like that. Of course, he would be amazing in Liverpool but lets be honest he would probably be amazing anywhere he goes. I do not doubt his talents but I doubt if Liverpool could spend that much money during the worst financial situation of football has ever been in just to get one more player.

Liverpool is already leading the league in a record breaking point situation and I feel like maybe they would be just enough without any transfers and spending any money. That way they could just wait another year, already got the title, and just focus on next year, that way they could spend a lot less money or at least see how finances will be like.

@FanEagle there’s no doubt about Sancho quality but he’s not worth €120 million especially in the current transfer window, and if a club yet decides to buy him then that clubs will be Manchester United and not Liverpool.

Also another breaking news update for you’ll, and I’m expecting @tokeweed to shout in delight after reading that Dele Ali has been suspended for Tottenhams match against Manchester United, and this means that Tottenham will be weakened right from the start and Manchester United should easily win this fixture.

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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2799867-report-borussia-dortmund-value-jadon-sancho-at-100m-amid-premier-league-links

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11675/12004806/dele-alli-tottenham-midfielder-to-miss-manchester-united-clash-through-suspension
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Jordan Sancho is said to be 120 million euro in value right now on transfarmarkt right now, it is really not that easy to get a player like that. Of course, he would be amazing in Liverpool but lets be honest he would probably be amazing anywhere he goes. I do not doubt his talents but I doubt if Liverpool could spend that much money during the worst financial situation of football has ever been in just to get one more player.

Liverpool is already leading the league in a record breaking point situation and I feel like maybe they would be just enough without any transfers and spending any money. That way they could just wait another year, already got the title, and just focus on next year, that way they could spend a lot less money or at least see how finances will be like.

Undoubtedly Sancho will be a great signing for any club in the world, but personally I don't think Liverpool can spend such amount of money just on one player, Liverpool have been known to buy low and then sell later at a high price, so I don't see Liverpool getting Sancho and I also have this feeling that Liverpool are going to break Manchester city's 100 points record this season, because I don't see Liverpool losing to any other team apart from Manchester City.

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Sancho & Mbappe are probably the two best signings a big club could make atm. They’re both so young & exciting, so young with so much room to still improve.

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Also another breaking news update for you’ll, and I’m expecting @tokeweed to shout in delight after reading that Dele Ali has been suspended for Tottenhams match against Manchester United, and this means that Tottenham will be weakened right from the start and Manchester United should easily win this fixture.

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Dele Alli will miss Tottenham’s clash with Manchester United after being hit with a one–match ban by the FA for a social media post appearing to mock an Asian man.


https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11675/12004806/dele-alli-tottenham-midfielder-to-miss-manchester-united-clash-through-suspension

The video was posted on 6th February according to the news and it was taken down immediately(?). Also he played several games before the league was suspended in late February and early March

And now after the league is back, he is suspended for an action that past months. Dont see any issue at all if the video has been taken down according to the news (?) but missing 1 game especially after the long wait is really a harsh punishment



Edit : after reading it once again, I do realize that could cause controversion and racism towards specific ethnics as well but they should just fined him alot more instead of banning him for a match

 
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June 12, 2020, 08:45:57 AM
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Saudi Arabia has some appalling human rights records too so it’s not necessarily a bad thing. Football shouldn’t just be about who has the richest owner. Small to medium sized clubs shouldn’t be able to just buy their way to the top through a rich sugar daddy.

I do agree in this case. Saudi Arabia actually has one of the worse records for human rights abuses that goes on every day but I always wondered why most countries including my own are so friendly with them (yes, I know,,, money but still,,, I do not know how to be friends with rulers who torture and treat humans like garbage.

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June 12, 2020, 09:47:08 AM
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I do agree in this case. Saudi Arabia actually has one of the worse records for human rights abuses that goes on every day but I always wondered why most countries including my own are so friendly with them (yes, I know,,, money but still,,, I do not know how to be friends with rulers who torture and treat humans like garbage.
Saudi Arabia Is a country, what ever law placed is by there government, rulers and counties can selfishly keep good relationship between themselves and the country, not regarding human rights is irritatingly annoying and should be stopped, but so it generalizing it to the whole country, am not from Saudi Arabia but I think there are Saudi Arabian that think it's wrong, -you can be friendly with individuals judging them by what they do not what is linked to them-
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Sancho would be a starter in every team in the world according to his current form.

He is out of reach for almost all clubs, I think Liverpool will not make such a transfer in this period. I can see him coming if for some reason Salah was to be transferred, and I'd consider it a great piece of business.

Sancho and Havertz are 2 of my biggest wishes (Mbappe is 1st one but I think he might be out of reach already) but both are ~100 mil $ players and Liverpool would have to sell to buy any of them.

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Premier League clubs have been given the green light to use pre-recorded terrace songs to mark home goals and substitutions as part of the new behind closed doors experience that will be introduced when football restarts in just over a week.

Telegraph Sport can outline how football will look for the players in empty stadiums and fans watching on television at home when Project Restart kicks off with Aston Villa’s game against Sheffield United on June 17.

A newly formed Broadcast Enhancement Advisory Group, set up to try to improve the viewing experience for fans with games going behind closed doors because of the coronavirus crisis, put forward a range of proposals at last Thursday’s Premier League meeting

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/0/football-behind-closed-doors-premier-league-football-restart/

Not sure how I feel about this. Could be silly. I'd prefer just the empty stadiums. At least it looks like you can turn the noise on or off on Sky:

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In partnership with EA SPORTS FIFA, Sky Sports has created a range of bespoke and team-specific crowd noises and chants to bring the vibrant atmosphere of the Premier League to the restart.

Viewers can choose between the added crowd sound or stadium noise, along with Sky Sports commentary. It's up to you.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/12004035/crowd-noise-available-for-sky-sports-premier-league-games-how-it-works



Dele Alli will miss Tottenham’s clash with Manchester United after being hit with a one–match ban by the FA for a social media post appearing to mock an Asian man.

Asian lives matter. I saw yesterday that the PL was in talks to replace players name with the slogan Black Lives Matter and it looks like it's going ahread now: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jun/11/premier-league-shirts-to-show-support-for-black-lives-matter-and-nhs-minute-silence-coronavirus

This political pandering is getting pretty cringe.

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June 12, 2020, 01:52:40 PM
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Not sure how I feel about this. Could be silly. I'd prefer just the empty stadiums. At least it looks like you can turn the noise on or off on Sky:
Same here. I do know they're trying to give more life to each game and make viewers experience better but everything becomes unnatural.
- Good thing they'll be giving options to viewers.
- Personally, I would've preferred improving the experience for players in stadiums than viewers at home (they are the ones who need to feel the pressure the most).


This political pandering is getting pretty cringe.
In addition to the slogan part, the article that you linked also mentioned having "heart-shaped badges" somewhere in the kits...

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June 12, 2020, 02:54:16 PM
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Funny with all the BLM stuff getting out of hand.  I even heard Sterling saying that the EPL 'needs more black coaches.'.  I mean sure but are there even elite black coaches that deserve to be given the biggest jobs?  Base it on credentials ffs not skin color.  I'm not being racist here...

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June 12, 2020, 03:49:43 PM
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Funny with all the BLM stuff getting out of hand.  I even heard Sterling saying that the EPL 'needs more black coaches.'.  I mean sure but are there even elite black coaches that deserve to be given the biggest jobs?  Base it on credentials ffs not skin color.  I'm not being racist here...

Yup, this is insanity. Let's fight racism by.. being racist?
There should be only 1 criteria - credentials/quality. Where does it end otherwise?

We also don't have female coaches, let's put 3 so we are not discriminating. Also we need 2 vegans, one flatearther and a dog that thinks he's an armchair (pun intended).

I'm all for freedom for everyone. But nobody should be given a position because of that 'minority' bullshit alone.

You're either good or you are not. End of.

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