Lets play a game of Chess

[XMRpromotions]

Do try to keep up.

...and don't be so condescending.

Seriously? One whole square?

Follow your own advice, please.
b3 is fine for a move - it prevents c4 from being played. I'm not quite sure why you would want to play b5 as it just loses the pawn and forces you to give up your knight

I will also vote for b3. I disagree that it will "stop" c4 because black can still play it but I still think it is a good option.

I can confirm that Nxb5 will lose the knight for one pawn (along with the game).

So far I see 1 vote for Nxb5, 1 vote for Ng5, 1 vote for Nd2 and one vote for e5 and everyone else prefers 16.b3 or 16.h3.

I have seen all of the above moves discussed with the exception of Nd2. If the point of Nd2 is to help defend against c4 I will ask why you prefer to it b3? In some situations the knight may like to move to e5 instead (a few moves down the road). I can see how it provides extra defense for our e4 pawn (which may become important if our d3 pawn is traded soon) but Nd2 looks very passive to me.

It may be easier to find a consensus if everyone focused on the top two options (b3 and h3) voted on so far and chose between them.

[actmyname]

I will also vote for b3. I disagree that it will stop "c4" because black can still play it but I still think it is a good option.

I can confirm that Nxb5 will lose the knight for one pawn (along with the game).

So far I see 1 vote for Nxb5 1 vote for Ng5, 1 vote for Nd2 and one vote for e5 and everyone else prefers 16.b3 or 16.h3.

It may be easier to find a consensus if everyone focused on the top two options presented so far and chose between those.

Not so much in stopping the move c4, but rather to stop the passed pawn chain on a6 and b5.
That is VERY dangerous later on in the game and is nearly winning for black if we trade off all pieces

[Foxpup]

I can confirm that Nxb5 will lose the knight for one pawn (along with the game).

No, no, no. You're not "thinking ahead". 16. Nxb5 axb5 is a cunning sacrifice to allow 17. a6 Bxa6 18. Rxa6 Qxa6. Losing the rook and knight for a bishop is a good idea because it "leaves the queen exposed on her own". Timelord2067 is either a troll or doesn't know actually how to play chess.

[XMRpromotions]

I can confirm that Nxb5 will lose the knight for one pawn (along with the game).

No, no, no. You're not "thinking ahead". 16. Nxb5 axb5 is a cunning sacrifice to allow 17. a6 Bxa6 18. Rxa6 Qxa6. Losing the rook and knight for a bishop is a good idea because it "leaves the queen exposed on her own". Timelord2067 is either a troll or doesn't know actually how to play chess.

The good news is that we don't need to worry about this unless enough lots of new people show up to add voting support for these types of moves.

For now I will assume everyone is trying their best with some of us being more experienced than others. One of the benefits of this thread is to help new people learn how to play chess or improve their skills. OP may want to convince more chess players to support bitcoin but (almost) everyone here already supports bitcoin. Many people on bitcointalk either don't know how to play chess or are very inexperienced.

[boolberry]

I like 16. h3. Keeps the Black knight away from g4 for 17. Be3.

Please cast my ballot for 16. h3 also

[dre1982]

I like 16. h3. Keeps the Black knight away from g4 for 17. Be3.

Please cast my ballot for 16. h3 also

h3 is such a waste move at this time. The knight just don't do anything special at g4. If you plays it, then just attack it.

[neochiny]

damn.. we have a lot of weakpoints now.
that even a child can exploit.
well i think the "GM" have the advantage in here.
since he can read all of our discusion in this game.
and even 1 person saw the best move but the others,
cant see the objective of it. it will be useless
since this is a majority votes where common moves
are following with common thinkers.
like if ones says i want to move e4. well others will just follow it.
even its not the best move.
i cannot see now the real purpose of this game for the "GM".
well ima out here. Goodluck guys.

[Timelord2067]

I can confirm that Nxb5 will lose the knight for one pawn (along with the game).

No, no, no. You're not "thinking ahead". 16. Nxb5 axb5 is a cunning sacrifice to allow 17. a6 Bxa6 18. Rxa6 Qxa6. Losing the rook and knight for a bishop is a good idea because it "leaves the queen exposed on her own". Timelord2067 is either a troll or doesn't know actually how to play chess.

Thank you Sir, may I have another one.

Actually, your argument is based on bullying, not logic of the game.

Knight takes pawn on b5 thank you.

[languagehasmeaning]

I did the queries , here are the candidates:

2816 Veselin Topalov
2814 Hikaru Nakamura
2808 Fabiano Caruana
2793 Anish Giri
2784 Dmitry Jakovenko
2782 Liren Ding
2777 Vladimir Kramnik
2773 Wesley So
2771 Alexander Grischuk
2765 Levon Aronian
2762 Sergey Karjakin
2758 Evgeny Tomashevsky
2744 Maxime Vachier-Lagrave
2742 Michael Adams
2741 Radoslaw Wojtaszek
2738 Teimour Radjabov
2737 Pendyala Harikrishna
2736 Shakhrivar Mamedyarov*
2734 Yi Wei
2732 Leinier Dominguez Perez
2728 David Navara
2727 Peter Svidler
2726 Vassily Ivanchuk
2725 Nikita Vitiugov
2721 Yangyi Yu
2720 Dmitry Andreikin
2717 Pavel Eljanov
2712 Hao Wang
2707 Peter Leko
2705 Ian Nepomniachtchi
2700 Anton Korobov

* Maimdiarove's name is butchered horribly all the time and the correct spelling is unknown

I feel like Nakamura would be the bitcoin contender on this list. I don't know if that's our secret grandmaster, but I can hope

Instead of Nakamura why not his opponent live right now?
http://en.chessbase.com/post/interview-with-pavel-eljanov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Eljanov

Nakamura vs Eljanov started 30 min ago
https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/baku-world-cup-2015#live

Some evidence:
http://www.chessbomb.com/arena/2015-worldcup/04-3-Jakovenko_Dmitry-Eljanov_Pavel (look at first 6 moves and compare to our game)

Exact same opening today in Nakamura vs Eljanov except he played Bd7 instead of Nbd7 on move 5?

If he afraid Nakamura is reading this thread and getting all his ideas (and switched his 5th move to throw him off)?

Will many GMs start following this thread now?

WTF!

[Foxpup]

Thank you Sir, may I have another one.

You may.

Actually, your argument is based on bullying, not logic of the game.

No, my insults are based on bullying. My arguments are based on the logic of the game, specifically the logic that a knight is worth more than a pawn (especially at this stage of the game), and a rook and knight combined are worth far more than a bishop. Do you really not see that?

Irregardless, nobody else thinks your plan is sensible, and the majority vote is all that matters. We have five votes for h3 (Taras, scruffy scruffington, ErisDiscordia, boolberry, and myself), four votes for b3 (languagehasmeaning, dre1982, actmyname, and XMRpromotions), one vote for Nd2 (gotmilk_), one vote for e5 (abacus), one vote for Ng5 (jjacob), and one vote for Nxb5 (Timelord2067).

[languagehasmeaning]

damn.. we have a lot of weakpoints now.
that even a child can exploit.
well i think the "GM" have the advantage in here.
since he can read all of our discusion in this game.
and even 1 person saw the best move but the others,
cant see the objective of it. it will be useless
since this is a majority votes where common moves
are following with common thinkers.
like if ones says i want to move e4. well others will just follow it.
even its not the best move.
i cannot see now the real purpose of this game for the "GM".
well ima out here. Goodluck guys.

Black may have an advantage but the game is far from over!

Why not try harder to help if you have better ideas?

[languagehasmeaning]

I did the queries , here are the candidates:

2816 Veselin Topalov
2814 Hikaru Nakamura
2808 Fabiano Caruana
2793 Anish Giri
2784 Dmitry Jakovenko
2782 Liren Ding
2777 Vladimir Kramnik
2773 Wesley So
2771 Alexander Grischuk
2765 Levon Aronian
2762 Sergey Karjakin
2758 Evgeny Tomashevsky
2744 Maxime Vachier-Lagrave
2742 Michael Adams
2741 Radoslaw Wojtaszek
2738 Teimour Radjabov
2737 Pendyala Harikrishna
2736 Shakhrivar Mamedyarov*
2734 Yi Wei
2732 Leinier Dominguez Perez
2728 David Navara
2727 Peter Svidler
2726 Vassily Ivanchuk
2725 Nikita Vitiugov
2721 Yangyi Yu
2720 Dmitry Andreikin
2717 Pavel Eljanov
2712 Hao Wang
2707 Peter Leko
2705 Ian Nepomniachtchi
2700 Anton Korobov

* Maimdiarove's name is butchered horribly all the time and the correct spelling is unknown

I feel like Nakamura would be the bitcoin contender on this list. I don't know if that's our secret grandmaster, but I can hope

Instead of Nakamura why not his opponent live right now?
http://en.chessbase.com/post/interview-with-pavel-eljanov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Eljanov

Nakamura vs Eljanov started 30 min ago
https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/baku-world-cup-2015#live

Some evidence:
http://www.chessbomb.com/arena/2015-worldcup/04-3-Jakovenko_Dmitry-Eljanov_Pavel (look at first 6 moves and compare to our game)

Exact same opening today in Nakamura vs Eljanov except he played Bd7 instead of Nbd7 on move 5?

If he afraid Nakamura is reading this thread and getting all his ideas (and switched his 5th move to throw him off)?

Will many GMs start following this thread now?

WTF!

Some of you guys also follow the World Chess Cup?

There are some very nice games already be played an there will also be a lot of nice games. I follow the games by Chessbomb.

I am watching it. OP is playing in it! We don't know who he is but he has provided a few clues

ow nice. And who do you think it is? OP still playing at the last 16?

Your guess is as good as mine. These are the clues I have seen so far

1. He is not Magnus Carlsen:

http://www.chess.com/news/magnus-carlsen-proposes-different-world-championship-format-2693[/url]

Before you draw any conclusions, I will give you one hint regarding my identity. I am not Magnus Carslen

2. He is not Ed Trice (impossible per #4)

I am not Ed Trice.

3. He is not Bruzón Batista (impossible per #4)

It also looks like our esteemed opponent does not wish to confirm or deny that he is Bruzón Batista. I figured I was right.

I prefer not to confirm or deny every guess or I may reveal myself quickly.   However I can deny in this case since I already provided a clue that eliminated him as a possibility (based on current ratings):

4. Rated over 2700

OP, are you a GM, IM, ranked on 2700chess, etc?

Yes I am a GM and ranked on that list.

5. He won round 1 in Baku

http://www.bakuworldcup2015.com/[/url]

I don't plan to announce my results from my round 2 match because that would significantly narrow down the number of people I could be.

We don't know how he did in round 2 or 3 but most (maybe all?) people rated over 2700 were paired down in round 2 implying he had a >50% chance of advancing past round 2.

6. He is not Viswanathan Anand because he decided not to play in Baku

7. He is not Gata Kampsky (upset in round 1) but his current rating is below 2700 anyway (impossible per #4). From the top of my head I am not aware of any more major upsets of people in round 1 or people over 2700 who did not show up (aside from Carlsen and Anand already mentioned).

8. He is not satoshi (we don't know if Satoshi is a chess player or not but it would be funny if letsplayagame and satoshi played each other and were unaware of each others identities):
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3lj2t9/long_term_goal_promoting_bitcoin_usage_for/cv757pc

If I am right it means that letsplayagame (Eljanov) just took out world #2 Nakamura (won yesterday and drew today to win 1.5-.5) and has advanced to the World Cup Semi Finals



http://www.bakuworldcup2015.com/content/26

[XMRpromotions]

I just sent Eljanov a Tweet. Lets see if he responds:
https://twitter.com/XMRpromotions/status/647070684808478721

[Hueristic]

H3 would be my move but I suck.

[XMRpromotions]

H3 would be my move but I suck.

Welcome to the game!

I personally voted for b3 but do see the point of h3. It may end up being the winning move based on recent voting trends

[Hueristic]

damn.. we have a lot of weakpoints now.
that even a child can exploit.
well i think the "GM" have the advantage in here.
since he can read all of our discusion in this game.
and even 1 person saw the best move but the others,
cant see the objective of it. it will be useless
since this is a majority votes where common moves
are following with common thinkers.
like if ones says i want to move e4. well others will just follow it.
even its not the best move.
i cannot see now the real purpose of this game for the "GM".
well ima out here. Goodluck guys.

I would say that if you have a move that is better than the consensus than you will have to explain why and get people to change their move to support your move. I am flexible and know that I cannot see far enough into this game to beat an expert let alone a GM.

Welcome to the game!
I personally voted for b3 but do see the point of h3. It may end up being the winning move based on recent voting trends

Thx, I think B3 does not apply pressure while H3 does limit his moves. Just my 2 cents, I'm probably wrong.




And I'd like to reiterate in this thread that letsplayagame should post what move he would have made so we can evaluate what we have done and learn.

[Taras]

Next chart coming in about 5-6 hours

[actmyname]

Thx, I think B3 does not apply pressure while H3 does limit his moves. Just my 2 cents, I'm probably wrong.

b3 prevents a passed pawn on b5. h3 prevents... Ng5? You can wait until after black plays Ng5 instead of prophylactically defending against no concrete threat.

[dre1982]

Thx, I think B3 does not apply pressure while H3 does limit his moves. Just my 2 cents, I'm probably wrong.

b3 prevents a passed pawn on b5. h3 prevents... Ng5? You can wait until after black plays Ng5 instead of prophylactically defending against no concrete threat.

Just like untold earlier. We better defence for a real threat then a threat which isn't there. h3 is a good move but it can wait. First fix the problems on the queenside.

[newb4now]

I support playing b3 now. Lets try to slow down the attack of letsplayagame on the c file.