ANTMINER S5+ is available to order, 7.722TH/S 0.445J/GH

[notlist3d]

You do not recommend using S5+ blades with S5 controller with S5 software or S5+ software? One second you say S5 software is bad and the next you say S5+ software is bad.

Are they both bad?

The post you sent me, he says they run at 2.2th. If they ran at 2.7TH it would possibly be worth it. Since i used 2.2TH for the math. While i did 2.6TH for 2*S5 for 2.2BTC~ That is the price i been picking up parts at, around 1BTC for a whole s5. Or 250$~

And i am in Québec, but the tax isin't applicable if the seller pick value = 1$ for electronic parts. Regardless the seller does not wish to ship outside the US. So i need to find something else.

6 blades average after 3 day  5,114.68  freg 325
at 350 it is more 

And yes, both software with S5 controller may be bad with S5+. I have 3 overheated S5+ blades in China. I still do not know what happened, since the second power supply switched off from over heating and rescued four blades.

But I've seen it before with water cooled S5 at temp 130 krad Celsius.  I was hoping that this error is corrected by S5+ software.

I think it sucks but I think you got a dud.   I think it is more then just software with it being on it's 3rd blade.   Just is a lot of bad to happen to one unit.

I still am running along with my S5+ happily with no issues.   It runs and runs for weeks without touching it.  I don't know if it helps but something with my mining area is a lot of CFM's of air going through my miners from big fans pushing that hot air away. 

That is only thing I have done that not everyone would have.  But mine has not had any issues besides hardware errors.  Somehow they messed up the equation with HW errors and when I run for long periods with very little hw errors it shows a very very small negative which is impossible.

[VirosaGITS]

You do not recommend using S5+ blades with S5 controller with S5 software or S5+ software? One second you say S5 software is bad and the next you say S5+ software is bad.

Are they both bad?

The post you sent me, he says they run at 2.2th. If they ran at 2.7TH it would possibly be worth it. Since i used 2.2TH for the math. While i did 2.6TH for 2*S5 for 2.2BTC~ That is the price i been picking up parts at, around 1BTC for a whole s5. Or 250$~

And i am in Québec, but the tax isin't applicable if the seller pick value = 1$ for electronic parts. Regardless the seller does not wish to ship outside the US. So i need to find something else.

6 blades average after 3 day  5,114.68  freg 325
at 350 it is more 

And yes, both software with S5 controller may be bad with S5+. I have 3 overheated S5+ blades in China. I still do not know what happened, since the second power supply switched off from over heating and rescued four blades.

But I've seen it before with water cooled S5 at temp 130 krad Celsius.  I was hoping that this error is corrected by S5+ software.

I think it sucks but I think you got a dud.   I think it is more then just software with it being on it's 3rd blade.   Just is a lot of bad to happen to one unit.

I still am running along with my S5+ happily with no issues.   It runs and runs for weeks without touching it.  I don't know if it helps but something with my mining area is a lot of CFM's of air going through my miners from big fans pushing that hot air away. 

That is only thing I have done that not everyone would have.  But mine has not had any issues besides hardware errors.  Somehow they messed up the equation with HW errors and when I run for long periods with very little hw errors it shows a very very small negative which is impossible.

Well if i get a 1/3rd of a already working and used S5+, hopefully i won't run into the issues Tupsu did. I'm just guessing the odds of getting 1/3rd of a S5+ without a controller for a good price, comparable to just getting some S5's is a bit low. Especially since the deal is killed if the person is outside NA, most likely.

If someone selling parts of a S5+ wanted a quick sale and eat the shipping cost and declared it was worth very little, just parts, it would probably then be worth buying from the US. But there is an awful lots of Americans that don,t want to fill that little form for clearing customs.

[notlist3d]

I think it sucks but I think you got a dud.   I think it is more then just software with it being on it's 3rd blade.   Just is a lot of bad to happen to one unit.

I still am running along with my S5+ happily with no issues.   It runs and runs for weeks without touching it.  I don't know if it helps but something with my mining area is a lot of CFM's of air going through my miners from big fans pushing that hot air away. 

That is only thing I have done that not everyone would have.  But mine has not had any issues besides hardware errors.  Somehow they messed up the equation with HW errors and when I run for long periods with very little hw errors it shows a very very small negative which is impossible.

Well if i get a 1/3rd of a already working and used S5+, hopefully i won't run into the issues Tupsu did. I'm just guessing the odds of getting 1/3rd of a S5+ without a controller for a good price, comparable to just getting some S5's is a bit low. Especially since the deal is killed if the person is outside NA, most likely.

If someone selling parts of a S5+ wanted a quick sale and eat the shipping cost and declared it was worth very little, just parts, it would probably then be worth buying from the US. But there is an awful lots of Americans that don,t want to fill that little form for clearing customs.
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I didn't have to sign any customs forms when I got my S5+ from bitmain. It could have varied by carrier.  I did pay extra for PSU's the 3 were shipped at a weight less then actual from bitmain, so carrier charged me the difference.  But that was all I had to do.

And I would agree chances of getting 1/3 of one is pretty slim.  It was a  pretty limited sale to customers.  I can't imagine someone splitting up the set of 3 when selling.

[VirosaGITS]

I think it sucks but I think you got a dud.   I think it is more then just software with it being on it's 3rd blade.   Just is a lot of bad to happen to one unit.

I still am running along with my S5+ happily with no issues.   It runs and runs for weeks without touching it.  I don't know if it helps but something with my mining area is a lot of CFM's of air going through my miners from big fans pushing that hot air away. 

That is only thing I have done that not everyone would have.  But mine has not had any issues besides hardware errors.  Somehow they messed up the equation with HW errors and when I run for long periods with very little hw errors it shows a very very small negative which is impossible.

Well if i get a 1/3rd of a already working and used S5+, hopefully i won't run into the issues Tupsu did. I'm just guessing the odds of getting 1/3rd of a S5+ without a controller for a good price, comparable to just getting some S5's is a bit low. Especially since the deal is killed if the person is outside NA, most likely.

If someone selling parts of a S5+ wanted a quick sale and eat the shipping cost and declared it was worth very little, just parts, it would probably then be worth buying from the US. But there is an awful lots of Americans that don,t want to fill that little form for clearing customs.

I didn't have to sign any customs forms when I got my S5+ from bitmain. It could have varied by carrier.  I did pay extra for PSU's the 3 were shipped at a weight less then actual from bitmain, so carrier charged me the difference.  But that was all I had to do.

And I would agree chances of getting 1/3 of one is pretty slim.  It was a  pretty limited sale to customers.  I can't imagine someone splitting up the set of 3 when selling.

Its usually the sender that fill the form depicting what the content is and its value, since its used at custom to decide how its handled and then calculate the tax. When its part its easy to say its just parts and they don't have value you can really look up.

And i saw people selling 1/3rd of a S5 with a controller so it should be just as easy for them to sell without a controller. If they happen to not have one spare but i don't know. I think with the S7 a lot of people who bought the S5+ might be wondering if they did the right thing. At least for people that pay a significant price on their electricity.

And i'm fine with only picking up S5's till i cap my appartment's capacity. But when hunting for good deals its best to be open to more than one type of miner.

[notlist3d]

I think it sucks but I think you got a dud.   I think it is more then just software with it being on it's 3rd blade.   Just is a lot of bad to happen to one unit.

I still am running along with my S5+ happily with no issues.   It runs and runs for weeks without touching it.  I don't know if it helps but something with my mining area is a lot of CFM's of air going through my miners from big fans pushing that hot air away. 

That is only thing I have done that not everyone would have.  But mine has not had any issues besides hardware errors.  Somehow they messed up the equation with HW errors and when I run for long periods with very little hw errors it shows a very very small negative which is impossible.

Well if i get a 1/3rd of a already working and used S5+, hopefully i won't run into the issues Tupsu did. I'm just guessing the odds of getting 1/3rd of a S5+ without a controller for a good price, comparable to just getting some S5's is a bit low. Especially since the deal is killed if the person is outside NA, most likely.

If someone selling parts of a S5+ wanted a quick sale and eat the shipping cost and declared it was worth very little, just parts, it would probably then be worth buying from the US. But there is an awful lots of Americans that don,t want to fill that little form for clearing customs.

I didn't have to sign any customs forms when I got my S5+ from bitmain. It could have varied by carrier.  I did pay extra for PSU's the 3 were shipped at a weight less then actual from bitmain, so carrier charged me the difference.  But that was all I had to do.

And I would agree chances of getting 1/3 of one is pretty slim.  It was a  pretty limited sale to customers.  I can't imagine someone splitting up the set of 3 when selling.

Its usually the sender that fill the form depicting what the content is and its value, since its used at custom to decide how its handled and then calculate the tax. When its part its easy to say its just parts and they don't have value you can really look up.

And i saw people selling 1/3rd of a S5 with a controller so it should be just as easy for them to sell without a controller. If they happen to not have one spare but i don't know. I think with the S7 a lot of people who bought the S5+ might be wondering if they did the right thing. At least for people that pay a significant price on their electricity.

And i'm fine with only picking up S5's till i cap my appartment's capacity. But when hunting for good deals its best to be open to more than one type of miner.

I never got a form to fill out with my S5+ purchase.  I could have been lucky or could have been the carrier but I never had to declare a value.  But since US ... really does not matter to matter with no vat.

Can you link to some of these partingout?  I just have not seen it.   Seems crazy to split up a S5+ into selling modules.  I don't think they were selling controllers by them self on S5+ from bitmain.   It's just pretty limited on number out there that made it publicly.

Now if your talking about S5 parting yes there are many S5's.  Some are old some have problems parting them out is much much more common.

[VirosaGITS]

I think it sucks but I think you got a dud.   I think it is more then just software with it being on it's 3rd blade.   Just is a lot of bad to happen to one unit.

I still am running along with my S5+ happily with no issues.   It runs and runs for weeks without touching it.  I don't know if it helps but something with my mining area is a lot of CFM's of air going through my miners from big fans pushing that hot air away. 

That is only thing I have done that not everyone would have.  But mine has not had any issues besides hardware errors.  Somehow they messed up the equation with HW errors and when I run for long periods with very little hw errors it shows a very very small negative which is impossible.

Well if i get a 1/3rd of a already working and used S5+, hopefully i won't run into the issues Tupsu did. I'm just guessing the odds of getting 1/3rd of a S5+ without a controller for a good price, comparable to just getting some S5's is a bit low. Especially since the deal is killed if the person is outside NA, most likely.

If someone selling parts of a S5+ wanted a quick sale and eat the shipping cost and declared it was worth very little, just parts, it would probably then be worth buying from the US. But there is an awful lots of Americans that don,t want to fill that little form for clearing customs.

I didn't have to sign any customs forms when I got my S5+ from bitmain. It could have varied by carrier.  I did pay extra for PSU's the 3 were shipped at a weight less then actual from bitmain, so carrier charged me the difference.  But that was all I had to do.

And I would agree chances of getting 1/3 of one is pretty slim.  It was a  pretty limited sale to customers.  I can't imagine someone splitting up the set of 3 when selling.

Its usually the sender that fill the form depicting what the content is and its value, since its used at custom to decide how its handled and then calculate the tax. When its part its easy to say its just parts and they don't have value you can really look up.

And i saw people selling 1/3rd of a S5 with a controller so it should be just as easy for them to sell without a controller. If they happen to not have one spare but i don't know. I think with the S7 a lot of people who bought the S5+ might be wondering if they did the right thing. At least for people that pay a significant price on their electricity.

And i'm fine with only picking up S5's till i cap my appartment's capacity. But when hunting for good deals its best to be open to more than one type of miner.

I never got a form to fill out with my S5+ purchase.  I could have been lucky or could have been the carrier but I never had to declare a value.  But since US ... really does not matter to matter with no vat.

Can you link to some of these partingout?  I just have not seen it.   Seems crazy to split up a S5+ into selling modules.  I don't think they were selling controllers by them self on S5+ from bitmain.   It's just pretty limited on number out there that made it publicly.

Now if your talking about S5 parting yes there are many S5's.  Some are old some have problems parting them out is much much more common.

You would be the buyer, not the sender. So its Bitmain that need to fill the paperwork.

There's this guy with one 1/3 S5+ + S5 controller for sale right now;
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1178317.0

And i think Tupsu did some crazy weird things and tried to sell them as well.

[notlist3d]

I never got a form to fill out with my S5+ purchase.  I could have been lucky or could have been the carrier but I never had to declare a value.  But since US ... really does not matter to matter with no vat.

Can you link to some of these partingout?  I just have not seen it.   Seems crazy to split up a S5+ into selling modules.  I don't think they were selling controllers by them self on S5+ from bitmain.   It's just pretty limited on number out there that made it publicly.

Now if your talking about S5 parting yes there are many S5's.  Some are old some have problems parting them out is much much more common.

You would be the buyer, not the sender. So its Bitmain that need to fill the paperwork.

There's this guy with one 1/3 S5+ + S5 controller for sale right now;
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1178317.0

And i think Tupsu did some crazy weird things and tried to sell them as well.

Is your apartment in US?  What I was trying to say and might not be coming through clear is with being US there is no VAT so bitmain filling out paperwork on worth so far has not effected me.  Only when PSU's were sent at lower weight then correct have I had to pay any extra. 

I give you that there is one out there seeing that.  But i stick with my prediction there will not be many 1/3 of S5+'s at least until they are older by a good amount.  And working set I think will stick together in most cases.

[VirosaGITS]

I never got a form to fill out with my S5+ purchase.  I could have been lucky or could have been the carrier but I never had to declare a value.  But since US ... really does not matter to matter with no vat.

Can you link to some of these partingout?  I just have not seen it.   Seems crazy to split up a S5+ into selling modules.  I don't think they were selling controllers by them self on S5+ from bitmain.   It's just pretty limited on number out there that made it publicly.

Now if your talking about S5 parting yes there are many S5's.  Some are old some have problems parting them out is much much more common.

You would be the buyer, not the sender. So its Bitmain that need to fill the paperwork.

There's this guy with one 1/3 S5+ + S5 controller for sale right now;
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1178317.0

And i think Tupsu did some crazy weird things and tried to sell them as well.

Is your apartment in US?  What I was trying to say and might not be coming through clear is with being US there is no VAT so bitmain filling out paperwork on worth so far has not effected me.  Only when PSU's were sent at lower weight then correct have I had to pay any extra. 

I give you that there is one out there seeing that.  But i stick with my prediction there will not be many 1/3 of S5+'s at least until they are older by a good amount.  And working set I think will stick together in most cases.

Oh no i'm in Canada, the tax depend on the declared value of the package, which is done by Bitmain. For a S5 when it was 400USD i paid 20$~ import tax. Meanwhile the half working s5 i received from tarzan2 cost me 0.

The form need to be fill regardless of the value of whatever's in the package. I've had to pay import fee from the US and i had to give a form back when i sent back a PSU to the US and there was some border fee.

Its kind of wacky. Basically it range from 0 to 30%~ or something, it depend on what it is. Sidehack's batch was 20%~, the zeus miners i got were 6%~ and the parts psu i got were 1%~

[mikefallen]

Well something on the bright side my hash card number 5 has been intermittently working but hasn't dropped off the array in 3 days, when it stops working i restart the miner  a couple times and it starts working again......really weird.


I'm getting a pretty decent hash rate and overclock.

3d10h uptime

375 mhz = 8.7 TH
HW = .0260%

[mikefallen]

You might have a reduction in errors with freq 362  

0.0260% HW error is not bad righT?

i mean 99.974% correct?

[VirosaGITS]

You might have a reduction in errors with freq 362  

0.0260% HW error is not bad righT?

i mean 99.974% correct?

Its not an exceedingly high amount but when you start getting more HW, your chip start actually hashing a bit less, its not just a HWE% thing. Its probably a voltage thing. It does that with my S5. At around 400hz the Hashrate no longer raise, then it start lowering even though HWE% isint event really raising by that much.

[notlist3d]

You might have a reduction in errors with freq 362  

0.0260% HW error is not bad righT?

i mean 99.974% correct?

No it is not a bad amount.   What pool are you pointed to?  Also  what country are you mining from (guaging if there is a stratum server half way close to you).

But I am on antpool currently and have had very very low hw error .0002 % - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1157426.120 .  It is worth mentioning I do have fiber to the mining area with gigabit internet with very low pings (yes the gigabit is overkill but I use it too).

[RichBC]

Well something on the bright side my hash card number 5 has been intermittently working but hasn't dropped off the array in 3 days, when it stops working i restart the miner  a couple times and it starts working again......really weird.


I'm getting a pretty decent hash rate and overclock.

3d10h uptime

375 mhz = 8.7 TH
HW = .0260%

Mathematically at 375MHz you should be seeing 8910GH/S so VirosaGITS could well be right and you may find that dropping the Frequency a notch or two you do not see much of a reduction in Hash, but HW error rate will probably reduce.

Rich

[RichBC]

Agreed their support is not as good as it should be, however not sure that posting this all over the Forum is going to help you? What you do not seem to have done at any point is come on the Forum, describe the problems you are having and seek help from this knowledgeable community?

Rich

[RichBC]

@ cryptouser here's my suggestion.

1) First delete the other dozen copies of this problem, this is the right thread to discuss S5+ problems.

2) Give us a brief description of the problem and what you have tried to fix it?

3) Answer the question above, frequency in particular. Give us a screenshot of the Status Screen?

4) Your S5+ is functioning and is "only" 16% down on spec, bear in mind the spec allows for - 5%

Next thing to do would be to narrow the problem down. S5+ has 3 Systems each with 3 hash boards, so first thing to do is to test them one system at a time and establish if one of the systems is responsible for the reduced hash? Then check the 3 boards in that system  individually to find which board is responsible.

However that's enough guessing as to the best approach to take, without some sort of response from you.......

Rich

[cryptouser]

@ cryptouser here's my suggestion.

1) First delete the other dozen copies of this problem, this is the right thread to discuss S5+ problems.

2) Give us a brief description of the problem and what you have tried to fix it?

3) Answer the question above, frequency in particular. Give us a screenshot of the Status Screen?

4) Your S5+ is functioning and is "only" 16% down on spec, bear in mind the spec allows for - 5%

Next thing to do would be to narrow the problem down. S5+ has 3 Systems each with 3 hash boards, so first thing to do is to test them one system at a time and establish if one of the systems is responsible for the reduced hash? Then check the 3 boards in that system  individually to find which board is responsible.

However that's enough guessing as to the best approach to take, without some sort of response from you.......

Rich

RichBC the thing is that the problem is not only S5+ related, but it's more like "Bitmain related", that's why I did post it in multiple threads where I saw discussion about  their products.

Thank you for offering to troubleshoot the problem, I really do appreciate it, but I just don't want to go over it again...I've spent like 3 months trying to resolve that issue and I'll leave it that way, don't give a sh*t about it anymore ....

I'm so pissed off with those morons that I will never EVER buy a single piece of crap they sell!!! You can't treat customers like that!

[RichBC]

RichBC the thing is that the problem is not only S5+ related, but it's more like "Bitmain related", that's why I did post it in multiple threads where I saw discussion about  their products.

Thank you for offering to troubleshoot the problem, I really do appreciate it, but I just don't want to go over it again...I've spent like 3 months trying to resolve that issue and I'll leave it that way, don't give a sh*t about it anymore ....

I'm so pissed off with those morons that I will never EVER buy a single piece of crap they sell!!! You can't treat customers like that!

OK have it your way, it's your money. Just a pity that you chose over the last 4 Months to rely on Bitmain for support & not use this Forum and the wealth of experience that exists here to perhaps find a solution to your reduced Hash Rate....


Rich

[VirosaGITS]

RichBC the thing is that the problem is not only S5+ related, but it's more like "Bitmain related", that's why I did post it in multiple threads where I saw discussion about  their products.

Thank you for offering to troubleshoot the problem, I really do appreciate it, but I just don't want to go over it again...I've spent like 3 months trying to resolve that issue and I'll leave it that way, don't give a sh*t about it anymore ....

I'm so pissed off with those morons that I will never EVER buy a single piece of crap they sell!!! You can't treat customers like that!

OK have it your way, it's your money. Just a pity that you chose over the last 4 Months to rely on Bitmain for support & not use this Forum and the wealth of experience that exists here to perhaps find a solution to your reduced Hash Rate....


Rich

Dont bother, not dealing with a Rational adult here. Already asked him to tone it down and already offered to help and he has pretty much just spat in my face. Not quite sure him getting banned for spamming is going to help his issue either.

We are not Bitmain, so i don't see why we're getting the hate.

[notlist3d]

RichBC the thing is that the problem is not only S5+ related, but it's more like "Bitmain related", that's why I did post it in multiple threads where I saw discussion about  their products.

Thank you for offering to troubleshoot the problem, I really do appreciate it, but I just don't want to go over it again...I've spent like 3 months trying to resolve that issue and I'll leave it that way, don't give a sh*t about it anymore ....

I'm so pissed off with those morons that I will never EVER buy a single piece of crap they sell!!! You can't treat customers like that!

OK have it your way, it's your money. Just a pity that you chose over the last 4 Months to rely on Bitmain for support & not use this Forum and the wealth of experience that exists here to perhaps find a solution to your reduced Hash Rate....


Rich

Dont bother, not dealing with a Rational adult here. Already asked him to tone it down and already offered to help and he has pretty much just spat in my face. Not quite sure him getting banned for spamming is going to help his issue either.

We are not Bitmain, so i don't see why we're getting the hate.

People get mad when were talking about spending good money on  products.  I got lucky my S5+ is still running good today no issues.   So he got a dud... which is not fun for anyone.  At this point I'm guessing it's out of warranty so doubt they do much.

They have moved on to S7's I would be surprised if they had many S5+ parts still with it being so limited production.

[VirosaGITS]

RichBC the thing is that the problem is not only S5+ related, but it's more like "Bitmain related", that's why I did post it in multiple threads where I saw discussion about  their products.

Thank you for offering to troubleshoot the problem, I really do appreciate it, but I just don't want to go over it again...I've spent like 3 months trying to resolve that issue and I'll leave it that way, don't give a sh*t about it anymore ....

I'm so pissed off with those morons that I will never EVER buy a single piece of crap they sell!!! You can't treat customers like that!

OK have it your way, it's your money. Just a pity that you chose over the last 4 Months to rely on Bitmain for support & not use this Forum and the wealth of experience that exists here to perhaps find a solution to your reduced Hash Rate....


Rich

Dont bother, not dealing with a Rational adult here. Already asked him to tone it down and already offered to help and he has pretty much just spat in my face. Not quite sure him getting banned for spamming is going to help his issue either.

We are not Bitmain, so i don't see why we're getting the hate.

People get mad when were talking about spending good money on  products.  I got lucky my S5+ is still running good today no issues.   So he got a dud... which is not fun for anyone.  At this point I'm guessing it's out of warranty so doubt they do much.

They have moved on to S7's I would be surprised if they had many S5+ parts still with it being so limited production.

It is possible he did, but i see a lot of people complaining about low hashrate and high error rate and then they reveal they run the thing on a crap PSU. I might of missed one of his messages since he posted/spammed all over the forum, but he never replied to the post where i asked him that information, afaik.

Instead of building up rage for months, he should of came to us a long time ago.