Yesminer M20 / M10

[fr4nkthetank]

So why a big font with bold styling for the hashrate on the screen....



SCAM.  thats my opinion.

[bittalc1]

Not just the bold numbers but also its displayed on their website!? So now they have pool there or what 

[AJRGale]

Not just the bold numbers but also its displayed on their website!? So now they have pool there or what 

its a... bold ... strategy? lololololololz

[crazyearner]

So the new year is here and Jan is mid month. Anyone who got free units to be sent anyone actually got one yet. And seeing numbers in pictures is no proof at all. Id be posting a video of the units in real time action tearing down the box removing the case and showing what is inside the unit and then powering up and configuration in real time and hitting a mining pool.

[kilo17]

I cannot believe this scam is still going.  They are claiming they are going to put 15 Ph on the network in a 2 week time frame and not 1 person has verified anything from Yesminer.  

I would think if a company is  putting out 15 PH that a news agency, the chipmaker, or someone would have some hard evidence that the miner exists.  Particularly when there are a lot of people that have "supposedly" forked over $100,000+ for this miner.  I just do not believe there are that many gullible people that would fork out $100,000+ without some tangible evidence.

Conclusion - SUPO (scam until proven otherwise)  

[MakeBelieve]

Its not a scam, sorry folks. I just got my shipping date for 11 pcs M20 + upgrades.
I also knows what will be released from Yesminers end this year, but cant tell yet, just that all those miners out right now is obsolete from all other companies, even Spondoolies, Bitmain, Avalon and bitfury. I got pics from Yesminers of the Units and will post here when they arrive, if they do ;-)
Chips are from TSMC who also makes the KNC chips and only 1 other company besides Yesminers owns the right to the chips. The NDA should be liftet any day now and im waiting for this to be liftet.
2500 Miners is going to be produced totally and next production schedule is set to end April.
Lets see when the miners arrive how they perform.... if they arrive ;-)

I can tell you a few things Mr. Xircom.  First is that you are a shill for Yesminers.  Oh, you want to know how I would know that? Well let me explain, Xircom has approx 44 pages of posts and about 38-40 of those pages are shilling for LTCD.  Then the account was quiet for a while and now you are promoting Yesminer.

Something else I noticed was that in the first 42 pages of your post history not 1 time did you post in the Scandinavian Section but now you seem to post there frequently, about Yesminer.  Peculiar

So, it is possible that I am wrong but I bet you that Xircom is a bought account and nothing more than a shill for Yesminers.

[AJRGale]

Its not a scam, sorry folks. I just got my shipping date for 11 pcs M20 + upgrades.
I also knows what will be released from Yesminers end this year, but cant tell yet, just that all those miners out right now is obsolete from all other companies, even Spondoolies, Bitmain, Avalon and bitfury. I got pics from Yesminers of the Units and will post here when they arrive, if they do ;-)
Chips are from TSMC who also makes the KNC chips and only 1 other company besides Yesminers owns the right to the chips. The NDA should be liftet any day now and im waiting for this to be liftet.
2500 Miners is going to be produced totally and next production schedule is set to end April.
Lets see when the miners arrive how they perform.... if they arrive ;-)

I can tell you a few things Mr. Xircom.  First is that you are a shill for Yesminers.  Oh, you want to know how I would know that? Well let me explain, Xircom has approx 44 pages of posts and about 38-40 of those pages are shilling for LTCD.  Then the account was quiet for a while and now you are promoting Yesminer.

Something else I noticed was that in the first 42 pages of your post history not 1 time did you post in the Scandinavian Section but now you seem to post there frequently, about Yesminer.  Peculiar

So, it is possible that I am wrong but I bet you that Xircom is a bought account and nothing more than a shill for Yesminers.

to add, as doggie pointed out, old photos are old, so therefore proof of ownership of new hardware is false.

[BitcoinjunkieZ]

it`s a scam

[adaseb]

Well if you compare it to the S4, which is of similar size and power consumption it is VERY quiet compared to an S4. Maybe its water cooled.

[Xircom]

Its not a scam, sorry folks. I just got my shipping date for 11 pcs M20 + upgrades.
I also knows what will be released from Yesminers end this year, but cant tell yet, just that all those miners out right now is obsolete from all other companies, even Spondoolies, Bitmain, Avalon and bitfury. I got pics from Yesminers of the Units and will post here when they arrive, if they do ;-)
Chips are from TSMC who also makes the KNC chips and only 1 other company besides Yesminers owns the right to the chips. The NDA should be liftet any day now and im waiting for this to be liftet.
2500 Miners is going to be produced totally and next production schedule is set to end April.
Lets see when the miners arrive how they perform.... if they arrive ;-)

I can tell you a few things Mr. Xircom.  First is that you are a shill for Yesminers.  Oh, you want to know how I would know that? Well let me explain, Xircom has approx 44 pages of posts and about 38-40 of those pages are shilling for LTCD.  Then the account was quiet for a while and now you are promoting Yesminer.

Something else I noticed was that in the first 42 pages of your post history not 1 time did you post in the Scandinavian Section but now you seem to post there frequently, about Yesminer.  Peculiar

So, it is possible that I am wrong but I bet you that Xircom is a bought account and nothing more than a shill for Yesminers.

That's a pretty bold statement to accuse that I have sold my account and then seeing this coming from a Hero member account, im chocked !. If you had done your homework just a little better, you would know by now who I am and that this is my account.
Second, yes, I fancy EU produced products and would always be a patriot when it comes to EU produced or even western produced products. I do not fancy that all our hard earned money goes to China.
I have no interest in Yesminers besides I want them to succeed since I have a shit load of money placed on their miners.
Scandinavian section is dead......and I did post there re Electric prices we pay pr KW Sweden vs. Denmark vs Norway. Again, do you homework before making so stupid accuses.

I have been chasing for proof from Yesminers my self, since we have a farm in Iceland and wanted to replace some 3 gen miners with new 5 Gen and we made a decision based on a long e-mail and phone call history with Mike and Volker Stuider from Yesminers before we decided to go with them.
No matter what, we made a written contract with them and we get updates 1-2 times a week on the progress and the only thing I did was sharing a little of that info.

Think whatever you want, we made a decision and jumped on the boat. If its going to be a success only time will tell.
One thing is for sure, with people like you in the forum scares Investors in the Bitcoin network like me away from the forum and it will in the end up with only home miners and nobs sitting here shouting, knowing jack about what will come in the future, since you will never be invited to the table. So if you want solid info from someone who do talk direct with chip and hardware producers, you should be a little more skeptic about your own posts in the future, because the only thing you will get out of it, is that you will never know anything....

Regards Xircom, Copenhagen, Denmark.

[J4bberwock]

Its not a scam, sorry folks. I just got my shipping date for 11 pcs M20 + upgrades.
I also knows what will be released from Yesminers end this year, but cant tell yet, just that all those miners out right now is obsolete from all other companies, even Spondoolies, Bitmain, Avalon and bitfury. I got pics from Yesminers of the Units and will post here when they arrive, if they do ;-)
Chips are from TSMC who also makes the KNC chips and only 1 other company besides Yesminers owns the right to the chips. The NDA should be liftet any day now and im waiting for this to be liftet.
2500 Miners is going to be produced totally and next production schedule is set to end April.
Lets see when the miners arrive how they perform.... if they arrive ;-)

I can tell you a few things Mr. Xircom.  First is that you are a shill for Yesminers.  Oh, you want to know how I would know that? Well let me explain, Xircom has approx 44 pages of posts and about 38-40 of those pages are shilling for LTCD.  Then the account was quiet for a while and now you are promoting Yesminer.

Something else I noticed was that in the first 42 pages of your post history not 1 time did you post in the Scandinavian Section but now you seem to post there frequently, about Yesminer.  Peculiar

So, it is possible that I am wrong but I bet you that Xircom is a bought account and nothing more than a shill for Yesminers.

That's a pretty bold statement to accuse that I have sold my account and then seeing this coming from a Hero member account, im chocked !. If you had done your homework just a little better, you would know by now who I am and that this is my account.
Second, yes, I fancy EU produced products and would always be a patriot when it comes to EU produced or even western produced products. I do not fancy that all our hard earned money goes to China.
I have no interest in Yesminers besides I want them to succeed since I have a shit load of money placed on their miners.
Scandinavian section is dead......and I did post there re Electric prices we pay pr KW Sweden vs. Denmark vs Norway. Again, do you homework before making so stupid accuses.

I have been chasing for proof from Yesminers my self, since we have a farm in Iceland and wanted to replace some 3 gen miners with new 5 Gen and we made a decision based on a long e-mail and phone call history with Mike and Volker Stuider from Yesminers before we decided to go with them.
No matter what, we made a written contract with them and we get updates 1-2 times a week on the progress and the only thing I did was sharing a little of that info.

Think whatever you want, we made a decision and jumped on the boat. If its going to be a success only time will tell.
One thing is for sure, with people like you in the forum scares Investors in the Bitcoin network like me away from the forum and it will in the end up with only home miners and nobs sitting here shouting, knowing jack about what will come in the future, since you will never be invited to the table. So if you want solid info from someone who do talk direct with chip and hardware producers, you should be a little more skeptic about your own posts in the future, because the only thing you will get out of it, is that you will never know anything....

Regards Xircom, Copenhagen, Denmark.

Hi Xircom,

I'd like this product to be real, but the way they advertised it, the complete lack of communication, everything make it look exactly like many scams we have already seen here.
Even ltcgear were able to post some pictures of supposed asic boards to convince people to put more money in their ponzi.

Here, we had nothing but a case with fans, and a LCD to see. It seems they even refused yxt proposal to sign an NDA so he can see something about the miners.
How hard is it for them to post a picture of what's inside the case?
They are acting as if they didn't want to sell the miners. Then, why open a shop?

For me, it's very difficult to trust them with what they have provided so far.

BTW, you forgot to answer my email regarding the scrypt chips back in august or September. Looks like you've been as busy as me.

[Xircom]

Hi J4bberwock,

Yeah, busy like hell , but mining is not my core business ;-) Sorry for not answering you re the Scrypt Chips, you are right I promised you some info on these chips. By the way, your breakout boards performs like a charm and at this moment im trying to look for a 3000-3300 Watt PSU like the IBM blade one to operate some new Scrypt miners, but I cant find any that would work with your board.
I prefer to write you an PM re the scrypt chips, because I'm done sharing any more info for the masses when people act like morons.

Your fix on the MAT board is still working and hashing away  

Speak to you soon J4,

KR
Xircom

P.S Yesminers marketing performance is not existing, but support is, I always get an answer from Mike Write within same day I write an e-mail and Volker Stuider answer my phone calls as well. I hope this is not an scam and it would be rather stupid of them to cheat my company and when looking at the contract we signed, it looks legit...but who knows. When and If we get the miners, we will do burn-in here in DK before shipping them out to Iceland and I will make a pic for you of the boards and chips.

[J4bberwock]

Hi J4bberwock,

Yeah, busy like hell , but mining is not my core business ;-) Sorry for not answering you re the Scrypt Chips, you are right I promised you some info on these chips. By the way, your breakout boards performs like a charm and at this moment im trying to look for a 3000-3300 Watt PSU like the IBM blade one to operate some new Scrypt miners, but I cant find any that would work with your board.
I prefer to write you an PM re the scrypt chips, because I'm done sharing any more info for the masses when people act like morons.

Your fix on the MAT board is still working and hashing away  

Speak to you soon J4,

KR
Xircom

P.S Yesminers marketing performance is not existing, but support is, I always get an answer from Mike Write within same day I write an e-mail and Volker Stuider answer my phone calls as well. I hope this is not an scam and it would be rather stupid of them to cheat my company and when looking at the contract we signed, it looks legit...but who knows. When and If we get the miners, we will do burn-in here in DK before shipping them out to Iceland and I will make a pic for you of the boards and chips.

For the 3000-3300w PSU, did you have a look at my 4k board?
We'll continue the off topic in PM.

[SLEI]

M10 have odd specs takes 700W why power source is EVGA SuperNOVA G2 1600?

[jannoi]

I am a bitcoin miner in Thailand/Netherlands maintaining several farms.

I have tried to do business with Yesminers, i am pretty sure its big scam just on the way they want to do business.
Their quotations and invoices are like really badly made. And everything is about making a first deposit or up-front payments.

Even the address is of a office furniture discounter. I am pretty sure they have never heard of Yesminers when you ask them.

The discounts they trow around with are to large to have a anything but a decent business model. This runs completely on a scam-model.

Lets see how they would react to me want to pick up 20 units and pay by cash.

[Rabinovitch]

They don't want you to visit their office or factory (I have discussed it with them). They don't want to let any third party (any independent trustworthy member of the community) prove that their hardware is really exists.  

[adaseb]

According to these orders:

100000001 - 100000003
200000001 - 200000002
300000001 - 300000008
400000001 - 400000012

They were shipped on the 16th and should start arriving this week or next by the latest. So somebody out there should confirm if its real or not.

[Searing]

According to these orders:

100000001 - 100000003
200000001 - 200000002
300000001 - 300000008
400000001 - 400000012

They were shipped on the 16th and should start arriving this week or next by the latest. So somebody out there should confirm if its real or not.

Yeah....well if anyone is interested the email they sent me below (how they have my email I've no clue..) :?


so the scam is winding down....now the 'hype' for ordering the 2nd batch or you will be fomo'd ...I expect either they will now have the 'unavailable delay" as the next part of the scam and if not that ..then they will go dark......so I'm stating here ahead of time....classic scam timeline/methods

here is the email they sent

Dear Customer,

as you have probably already seen, the deliveries for Batch #1 has begun. We have and we will continue to post all dates to our main page. If you plan to order one of the latest Batch #1 miners with a shipment in the next 1-2 weeks, please do this as soon as possible before we are out of stock in the next few days.

But great news: Our Batch #2 is open for orders!

For all of our loyal subscribers we have created a 25 PERCENT promotion code, which you can use to order your very desired Batch #2 miner.

It is very simple:

1) Go to the mining section of our store https://www.yesminers.de/en/mining.html
2) Choose your preferred currency in the top center EUR, USD, GBP or CHF.
3) Choose your desired miner and click all options you like.
4) Copy the coupon code YMBATCH2SPECIALYM right into the field "DISCOUNT CODES" and click "APPLY".
5) Proceed to Checkout and follow the next steps.

This offer is valid until 31.01.2016 and only in our store, not in the stores of our partners or resellers!

P.S. All previous subscribers also take part in the next draw at 2nd February. Good luck!

Any questions? Write us!


Best regards

YesMiners
Support@YesMiners.com






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Provider Information:
YesMiners
PYC Pylon Consulting GmbH
Radickestraße 28
21079 Hamburg
Germany
Phone: +49 (0) 40 60944227
Fax: +49 (0) 40 328903020

Register Court: Hamburg
Register Number: 134023
CEO: Carsten Schuldt



so it goes......round and round.....asic scams......

[adaseb]

Dear Customer,

as you have probably already seen, the deliveries for Batch #1 has begun. We have and we will continue to post all dates to our main page. If you plan to order one of the latest Batch #1 miners with a shipment in the next 1-2 weeks, please do this as soon as possible before we are out of stock in the next few days.

What gave it away as a scam is starting a letter/sentence with a lowercase letter.

[mezzomix]

According to these orders:

100000001 - 100000003
200000001 - 200000002
300000001 - 300000008
400000001 - 400000012

They were shipped on the 16th and should start arriving this week or next by the latest. So somebody out there should confirm if its real or not.

My number is 170 and 311.

Xircom, did you notice that your order numbers are totally different from their order numbers? Do you have an explanation or did you ask PYC about this?