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Jesse Ventura Is Furious Sanders Plans To Endorse Hillary https://i.sli.mg/tAEEvb.png[/img][/center] ----------------------------------------- Will berniebots support harpy clinton if bernie is her vp? Selling out. That would suck and it would probably work ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Sanders could be tucked away once Clinton is in and not interfere with the corporate aspect of the one-world project. Like Dan Quayle. If she had health problems which could bring him in, he could easily have complementing ones himself. He doesn't strike me as someone with the wits to watch his own back or even really see what's going on. If he was given the bully pulpit, he very well could lead the social justice sheep cohort right inside of the multi-national corporate wolves den and not even realize it himself. In such an instance (Clinton/Sanders), it would probably negate my idea of Trump using some left-winger who happens to also be an anti-globalist. With a Republican-sponsored third-party conservative in the mix, I don't see a way for Trump to win against Clinton/Sanders or Clinton/Warren. The scheme is to have Julian Castro be the VP for Hillary. Most likely plausible. I still want to know if berniebots would vote for harpy if bernie accepts to be her vp. That's just silly... he's already said he would not do that... Bernie was asked if he would even support Hillary if she won... he dodged the question... mentioned something about being an independent... basically, no, he does not, and would not support Hillary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX8AsghDrA4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv6BcAbsQv8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw26iSLmuYw from minute 17 onward. He says he could support her if the democratic party agreed to his positions. On health care, minimum wage, rebuilding infrastructure, addressing climate change, free tuition, wall street tax on speculation, etc. So no doesn't look like that will happen. The dog may want the feast, but will be content with the bone thrown his way. It's an old dog. Probably won't be in politics much longer. And doubt the party can replace him in his state even if he stays in politics. So he may bite.
If Bernie Sanders wins the New York Democratic primary, some superdelegates vow to back Hillary Clinton anyway
They are afraid of being put on the clinton's naughty list. Doesn't matter much. More important what they will do if he wins the nomination. Will they go against popular vote? Could mean the breakup of the party. Or worse. Or will they switch like they did with obama?
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Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders speaks to a crowd gathered at the Phoenix Convention Center during a campaign rally on March 15, 2016, in Phoenix, Arizona. Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders' name is not on the primary ballot in Washington, D.C., after the D.C. Democratic Party submitted registration paperwork a day late and a voter filed a challenge, News4 has learned. D.C. party officials called the problem a minor administrative dispute. The Sanders’ campaign, as well as Hillary Clinton's campaign, each submitted registration fees of $2,500 on time earlier this month in advance of the June 14 Democratic primary. But D.C. Democrats did not email the candidates' registration information to the D.C. Board of Elections until a day after the registration deadline of March 16, News4's Tom Sherwood was first to report on Twitter. A Democratic voter in D.C. filed a challenge against the Sanders' campaign's registration. No complaint was filed against Clinton's registration. "We did what D.C. law requires in order to get Bernie on the ballot, and we are confident he will be on the ballot," a Sanders spokesman said in a statement to News4. Board of Elections rules call for a hearing to be held on the challenge against the inclusion of Sanders on the ballot. The hearing is expected to occur as early as next week, sources said. D.C. Democratic Party Chairwoman Anita Bonds said the issue may be resolved through an emergency vote by the D.C. Council, if necessary. The Board of Elections could rule it was an administrative error and correct it. A Board of Elections representative could not be reached immediately. http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Bernie-Sanders-Faces-Ballot-Trouble-in-DC-After-Registration-Snafu-374042381.html------------------------------------------------ Stolen.
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Sanders == Neoliberal, ultraleftist and quasi-socialist puppet. Hypocrisy is absolutely OK for this kind of individuals.
The part of that which needs to be repeated over and over to Sanders fanatics is bolded. Great. So Trump is a free mind and everyone else is a puppet. A puppet from who, we don't know but they're all puppets.
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Sanders == Neoliberal, ultraleftist and quasi-socialist puppet. Hypocrisy is absolutely OK for this kind of individuals.
The part of that which needs to be repeated over and over to Sanders fanatics is bolded. Great. So Trump is a free mind and everyone else is a puppet. A puppet from who, we don't know but they're all puppets. Is bernie a puppet of is he free?
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Sanders == Neoliberal, ultraleftist and quasi-socialist puppet. Hypocrisy is absolutely OK for this kind of individuals.
The part of that which needs to be repeated over and over to Sanders fanatics is bolded. Great. So Trump is a free mind and everyone else is a puppet. A puppet from who, we don't know but they're all puppets. Is bernie a puppet of is he free? Don't know. I'm not the one talking about candidates as being puppets. It seems especially dumb considering the fact that USA is a country where "lobbyist" is actually a job... Considering any politician as "free" is probably as dumb as considering a shark vegan.
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March 31, 2016, 12:24:51 AM |
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Sanders == Neoliberal, ultraleftist and quasi-socialist puppet. Hypocrisy is absolutely OK for this kind of individuals.
The part of that which needs to be repeated over and over to Sanders fanatics is bolded. Great. So Trump is a free mind and everyone else is a puppet. A puppet from who, we don't know but they're all puppets. Is bernie a puppet of is he free? Don't know. I'm not the one talking about candidates as being puppets. It seems especially dumb considering the fact that USA is a country where "lobbyist" is actually a job... Considering any politician as "free" is probably as dumb as considering a shark vegan. You've just demonstrated why TRUMP, who's not a politician, is so popular. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 31, 2016, 12:54:26 AM |
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Sanders == Neoliberal, ultraleftist and quasi-socialist puppet. Hypocrisy is absolutely OK for this kind of individuals.
The part of that which needs to be repeated over and over to Sanders fanatics is bolded. Great. So Trump is a free mind and everyone else is a puppet. A puppet from who, we don't know but they're all puppets. Is bernie a puppet of is he free? Don't know. I'm not the one talking about candidates as being puppets. It seems especially dumb considering the fact that USA is a country where "lobbyist" is actually a job... Considering any politician as "free" is probably as dumb as considering a shark vegan. You've just demonstrated why TRUMP, who's not a politician, is so popular. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Interesting. Yes of course, Bernie is a puppet. We can thank Trump for demonstrating this simple truth.
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Bernie is a puppet, really? How stupid are you people in here. The establishment hates Bernie!
Tin foil hats off, there is no illuminati. But the establishment is real and they hate Bernie because he can not be bought. To be fair, they hate Trump too. Not for the exact same reasons though..
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March 31, 2016, 05:39:38 AM |
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Bernie is a puppet, really? How stupid are you people in here. The establishment hates Bernie!
Tin foil hats off, there is no illuminati. But the establishment is real and they hate Bernie because he can not be bought. To be fair, they hate Trump too. Not for the exact same reasons though..
I at least half agree. Sanders has been and independent (iirc) for about forever and has held his basic socialist views for as long as far as I know, but in honesty, I never actually studied him or paid a lot of attention to his activities. He has always been in a class of other independents who I had some respect for (Chaffee, Specter, to be specific.) I don't doubt that the establishment has animosity toward him, and it would probably nearly equal that which they feel for Trump if Sanders were an actual threat. This establishment animosity would be nearly the sole reason I would vote for Sanders at this point. In terms of having hope that he would accomplish anything positive as president, I have none. As an 'old timer' in his situation, I think it possible that he has an 'America First' instinct, but he also may very well be led by the nose into the (very false) promise by the globalists that they are taking us into a Utopian collectivist world. I just don't see any signs that he is anything but a stary-eyed dreamer who will blindly follow anyone who utters the word 'peace' a few times. Even if not, I don't sense that he has any very realistic views on how to usher in 'Socialism' (much more than we already have), and more and more think we are to far down that road already. If we could get rid of the 'crony' aspect of the residuals of our 'Capitalism' that would be a plenty good start point, and it seems that Trump is making the most compelling case to date that he might be the one who is capable of doing this. As for the 'Illuminati', call it what you will but there are a relatively small group of very wealthy people who are the driving forces behind the 'new world order' or 'new world economic order' that MANY politicians have mentioned. In many/most cases the wealth come from a dynastic family (or being a functionary of one) or the banking system or often both. Being ultra-wealthy means owning seats on the boards of multi-national corporation which translates into having a high degree of influence. For all intents and purposes, this framework of ownership constitutes 'the establishment'. Sorry, but that's the way it is. Many people are waking up to it.
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March 31, 2016, 10:17:01 AM |
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Sanders == Neoliberal, ultraleftist and quasi-socialist puppet. Hypocrisy is absolutely OK for this kind of individuals.
The part of that which needs to be repeated over and over to Sanders fanatics is bolded. Great. So Trump is a free mind and everyone else is a puppet. A puppet from who, we don't know but they're all puppets. Is bernie a puppet of is he free? Don't know. I'm not the one talking about candidates as being puppets. It seems especially dumb considering the fact that USA is a country where "lobbyist" is actually a job... Considering any politician as "free" is probably as dumb as considering a shark vegan. You've just demonstrated why TRUMP, who's not a politician, is so popular. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Interesting. Yes of course, Bernie is a puppet.We can thank Trump for demonstrating this simple truth. You still didn't bring any piece of beginning of a little something you could call an evidence, or simply maybe just a little link, proving that Bernie is a puppet (we still don't know of who) and Trump is free. You just brag it like it's an obvious and simple truth. Yelling it doesn't make it true.
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Sanders == Neoliberal, ultraleftist and quasi-socialist puppet. Hypocrisy is absolutely OK for this kind of individuals.
The part of that which needs to be repeated over and over to Sanders fanatics is bolded. Great. So Trump is a free mind and everyone else is a puppet. A puppet from who, we don't know but they're all puppets. Is bernie a puppet of is he free? Don't know. I'm not the one talking about candidates as being puppets. It seems especially dumb considering the fact that USA is a country where "lobbyist" is actually a job... Considering any politician as "free" is probably as dumb as considering a shark vegan. You've just demonstrated why TRUMP, who's not a politician, is so popular. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Not a politician? Whaou, funny, last time I checked he has all the characterisitics of a politician! The greed of course, but also the lies, the use of misinformation, the extreme demagogy of his speeches, the will to do anything if that brings votes and refusing everything that doesn't bring votes, the use of useless debates like immigration in order to make people believe you're actually doing something... In fact Trump is clearly a politician. There is 0 difference between him and the others. None of you brought anything that could start proving Bernie is a puppet (that would be cool to start by saying who "controls" him is he's a puppet...) and how Trump is a totally free mind...
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March 31, 2016, 03:05:38 PM |
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Sanders == Neoliberal, ultraleftist and quasi-socialist puppet. Hypocrisy is absolutely OK for this kind of individuals.
The part of that which needs to be repeated over and over to Sanders fanatics is bolded. Great. So Trump is a free mind and everyone else is a puppet. A puppet from who, we don't know but they're all puppets. Is bernie a puppet of is he free? Don't know. I'm not the one talking about candidates as being puppets. It seems especially dumb considering the fact that USA is a country where "lobbyist" is actually a job... Considering any politician as "free" is probably as dumb as considering a shark vegan. You've just demonstrated why TRUMP, who's not a politician, is so popular. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Not a politician? Whaou, funny, last time I checked he has all the characterisitics of a politician! The greed of course, but also the lies, the use of misinformation, the extreme demagogy of his speeches, the will to do anything if that brings votes and refusing everything that doesn't bring votes, the use of useless debates like immigration in order to make people believe you're actually doing something... In fact Trump is clearly a politician. There is 0 difference between him and the others. None of you brought anything that could start proving Bernie is a puppet (that would be cool to start by saying who "controls" him is he's a puppet...) and how Trump is a totally free mind... How can you say bernie is not clearly politician?
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March 31, 2016, 03:17:18 PM |
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Sanders == Neoliberal, ultraleftist and quasi-socialist puppet. Hypocrisy is absolutely OK for this kind of individuals.
The part of that which needs to be repeated over and over to Sanders fanatics is bolded. Great. So Trump is a free mind and everyone else is a puppet. A puppet from who, we don't know but they're all puppets. Is bernie a puppet of is he free? Don't know. I'm not the one talking about candidates as being puppets. It seems especially dumb considering the fact that USA is a country where "lobbyist" is actually a job... Considering any politician as "free" is probably as dumb as considering a shark vegan. You've just demonstrated why TRUMP, who's not a politician, is so popular. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Not a politician? Whaou, funny, last time I checked he has all the characterisitics of a politician! The greed of course, but also the lies, the use of misinformation, the extreme demagogy of his speeches, the will to do anything if that brings votes and refusing everything that doesn't bring votes, the use of useless debates like immigration in order to make people believe you're actually doing something... In fact Trump is clearly a politician. There is 0 difference between him and the others. None of you brought anything that could start proving Bernie is a puppet (that would be cool to start by saying who "controls" him is he's a puppet...) and how Trump is a totally free mind... How can you say bernie is not clearly politician?I never said that. Again you're overusing strawman arguments. Not like we're not used to this now.
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March 31, 2016, 03:22:20 PM |
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Sanders == Neoliberal, ultraleftist and quasi-socialist puppet. Hypocrisy is absolutely OK for this kind of individuals.
The part of that which needs to be repeated over and over to Sanders fanatics is bolded. Great. So Trump is a free mind and everyone else is a puppet. A puppet from who, we don't know but they're all puppets. Is bernie a puppet of is he free? Don't know. I'm not the one talking about candidates as being puppets. It seems especially dumb considering the fact that USA is a country where "lobbyist" is actually a job... Considering any politician as "free" is probably as dumb as considering a shark vegan. You've just demonstrated why TRUMP, who's not a politician, is so popular. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Not a politician? Whaou, funny, last time I checked he has all the characterisitics of a politician! The greed of course, but also the lies, the use of misinformation, the extreme demagogy of his speeches, the will to do anything if that brings votes and refusing everything that doesn't bring votes, the use of useless debates like immigration in order to make people believe you're actually doing something... In fact Trump is clearly a politician. There is 0 difference between him and the others. None of you brought anything that could start proving Bernie is a puppet (that would be cool to start by saying who "controls" him is he's a puppet...) and how Trump is a totally free mind... How can you say bernie is not clearly politician?I never said that. Again you're overusing strawman arguments. Not like we're not used to this now. You are saying bernie is like a snowflake that hasn't touched the ground. Pure. No dirt. No strings attached. But he has powerful people behind him. Those people will ask him to pay them back if he becomes president. That's how this game of thrones is played.
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Sanders == Neoliberal, ultraleftist and quasi-socialist puppet. Hypocrisy is absolutely OK for this kind of individuals.
The part of that which needs to be repeated over and over to Sanders fanatics is bolded. Great. So Trump is a free mind and everyone else is a puppet. A puppet from who, we don't know but they're all puppets. Is bernie a puppet of is he free? Don't know. I'm not the one talking about candidates as being puppets. It seems especially dumb considering the fact that USA is a country where "lobbyist" is actually a job... Considering any politician as "free" is probably as dumb as considering a shark vegan. You've just demonstrated why TRUMP, who's not a politician, is so popular. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Not a politician? Whaou, funny, last time I checked he has all the characterisitics of a politician! The greed of course, but also the lies, the use of misinformation, the extreme demagogy of his speeches, the will to do anything if that brings votes and refusing everything that doesn't bring votes, the use of useless debates like immigration in order to make people believe you're actually doing something... In fact Trump is clearly a politician. There is 0 difference between him and the others. None of you brought anything that could start proving Bernie is a puppet (that would be cool to start by saying who "controls" him is he's a puppet...) and how Trump is a totally free mind... How can you say bernie is not clearly politician?I never said that. Again you're overusing strawman arguments. Not like we're not used to this now. You are saying bernie is like a snowflake that hasn't touched the ground. Pure. No dirt. No strings attached.But he has powerful people behind him. Those people will ask him to pay them back if he becomes president. That's how this game of thrones is played. Again I never said that. But keep talking saying nonsense claiming I was the one saying them at first... It's exactly this way Trump and his kind discuss.
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March 31, 2016, 03:26:25 PM |
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Sanders == Neoliberal, ultraleftist and quasi-socialist puppet. Hypocrisy is absolutely OK for this kind of individuals.
The part of that which needs to be repeated over and over to Sanders fanatics is bolded. Great. So Trump is a free mind and everyone else is a puppet. A puppet from who, we don't know but they're all puppets. Is bernie a puppet of is he free? Don't know. I'm not the one talking about candidates as being puppets. It seems especially dumb considering the fact that USA is a country where "lobbyist" is actually a job... Considering any politician as "free" is probably as dumb as considering a shark vegan. You've just demonstrated why TRUMP, who's not a politician, is so popular. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Not a politician? Whaou, funny, last time I checked he has all the characterisitics of a politician! The greed of course, but also the lies, the use of misinformation, the extreme demagogy of his speeches, the will to do anything if that brings votes and refusing everything that doesn't bring votes, the use of useless debates like immigration in order to make people believe you're actually doing something... In fact Trump is clearly a politician. There is 0 difference between him and the others. None of you brought anything that could start proving Bernie is a puppet (that would be cool to start by saying who "controls" him is he's a puppet...) and how Trump is a totally free mind... How can you say bernie is not clearly politician?I never said that. Again you're overusing strawman arguments. Not like we're not used to this now. You are saying bernie is like a snowflake that hasn't touched the ground. Pure. No dirt. No strings attached.But he has powerful people behind him. Those people will ask him to pay them back if he becomes president. That's how this game of thrones is played. Again I never said that. But keep talking saying nonsense claiming I was the one saying them at first... It's exactly this way Trump and his kind discuss. Why is bernie your choice then?
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Sanders == Neoliberal, ultraleftist and quasi-socialist puppet. Hypocrisy is absolutely OK for this kind of individuals.
The part of that which needs to be repeated over and over to Sanders fanatics is bolded. Great. So Trump is a free mind and everyone else is a puppet. A puppet from who, we don't know but they're all puppets. Is bernie a puppet of is he free? Don't know. I'm not the one talking about candidates as being puppets. It seems especially dumb considering the fact that USA is a country where "lobbyist" is actually a job... Considering any politician as "free" is probably as dumb as considering a shark vegan. You've just demonstrated why TRUMP, who's not a politician, is so popular. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Not a politician? Whaou, funny, last time I checked he has all the characterisitics of a politician! The greed of course, but also the lies, the use of misinformation, the extreme demagogy of his speeches, the will to do anything if that brings votes and refusing everything that doesn't bring votes, the use of useless debates like immigration in order to make people believe you're actually doing something... In fact Trump is clearly a politician. There is 0 difference between him and the others. None of you brought anything that could start proving Bernie is a puppet (that would be cool to start by saying who "controls" him is he's a puppet...) and how Trump is a totally free mind... How can you say bernie is not clearly politician?I never said that. Again you're overusing strawman arguments. Not like we're not used to this now. You are saying bernie is like a snowflake that hasn't touched the ground. Pure. No dirt. No strings attached.But he has powerful people behind him. Those people will ask him to pay them back if he becomes president. That's how this game of thrones is played. Again I never said that. But keep talking saying nonsense claiming I was the one saying them at first... It's exactly this way Trump and his kind discuss. Why is bernie your choice then? Because of the Ideology he defends and represents, that's all. There is a difference between appreciating someone and his ideas and being crazy about him. Not that a Trumper could understand that though.
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Sanders == Neoliberal, ultraleftist and quasi-socialist puppet. Hypocrisy is absolutely OK for this kind of individuals.
The part of that which needs to be repeated over and over to Sanders fanatics is bolded. Great. So Trump is a free mind and everyone else is a puppet. A puppet from who, we don't know but they're all puppets. Is bernie a puppet of is he free? Don't know. I'm not the one talking about candidates as being puppets. It seems especially dumb considering the fact that USA is a country where "lobbyist" is actually a job... Considering any politician as "free" is probably as dumb as considering a shark vegan. You've just demonstrated why TRUMP, who's not a politician, is so popular. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Not a politician? Whaou, funny, last time I checked he has all the characterisitics of a politician! The greed of course, but also the lies, the use of misinformation, the extreme demagogy of his speeches, the will to do anything if that brings votes and refusing everything that doesn't bring votes, the use of useless debates like immigration in order to make people believe you're actually doing something... In fact Trump is clearly a politician. There is 0 difference between him and the others. None of you brought anything that could start proving Bernie is a puppet (that would be cool to start by saying who "controls" him is he's a puppet...) and how Trump is a totally free mind... How can you say bernie is not clearly politician?I never said that. Again you're overusing strawman arguments. Not like we're not used to this now. You are saying bernie is like a snowflake that hasn't touched the ground. Pure. No dirt. No strings attached.But he has powerful people behind him. Those people will ask him to pay them back if he becomes president. That's how this game of thrones is played. Again I never said that. But keep talking saying nonsense claiming I was the one saying them at first... It's exactly this way Trump and his kind discuss. Why is bernie your choice then? Because of the Ideology he defends and represents, that's all. There is a difference between appreciating someone and his ideas and being crazy about him. Not that a Trumper could understand that though. Socialism is dead.
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