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Question: What's wrong with sanders?Donald Trump said Wednesday that an inspector general’s finding that Hillary Clinton’s email broke State Department rules was “not good,” and he renewed his attack on the former Cabinet official as “crooked.” B ut Sen. Bernard Sanders, Mrs. Clinton’s first hurdle on her path to the White House, took a different path, signaling he would not use the devastating report to impugn the front-runner in the Democratic primary race.
“This is not something that needs to be kicked around the political arena,” Jeff Weaver, Mr. Sanders‘ campaign manager, told CNN just hours after the report was sent to Congress and began to leak to the press.The inspector general concluded that Mrs. Clinton broke department rules by not storing the records, by not reporting attempted hacks of her server and by sending sensitive information over her own devices and through her server. The report ricocheted around Capitol Hill, where Republicans said it was more evidence for her trying to bend the rules, even as Democrats said other State Department secretaries used personal email accounts — though not their own servers — to conduct government business. “The inspector general’s report, not good,” Mr. Trump, the likely Republican nominee, said as he rallied supporters in Anaheim, California. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/25/donald-trump-suggests-democrats-will-dump-crooked-/
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May 26, 2016, 02:52:05 PM |
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Game on. I look forward to debating Donald Trump in California before the June 7 primary.
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Gun Violence at Bernie Sanders Supporter’s ConcertA New York City concert by Bernie Sanders supporter T.I. turned violent before the rapper even got on stage as gunshots killed one and injured three, according to reports. The incident started backstage where the rappers performing in acts before T.I. were gathered but spread onto the main stage causing panic at the concert venue, according to the New York Post. The carnage began in the green room of the Union Square venue at about 10 p.m. while the opening act — rappers Maino and Uncle Murda — were performing, according to law-enforcement sources. The gunplay then spilled into the area near the stage, causing panic among more than 1,000 rap fans packed into the music hall. […] The mayhem began after a fight erupted in a limited-access section on the seventh floor — before spreading to the second floor, where the shooting took place outside the green room, a police source said. More than 1,000 people were in the house at the time, including rapper T.I., the source said. T.I. announced his support for Sanders earlier this year, basing the decision on rival Hillary Clinton’s comments about “super-predators.” Rapper 50 Cent, a vocal Clinton supporter, knew one of the women who was shot and visited her in the hospital. “What’s happened here is not good,” 50 said. New York City Police Commissioner Bill Bratton blamed the shooting on “so-called rap artists who are basically thugs.” “The crazy world of the so-called rap artists who are basically thugs that basically celebrate the violence … and unfortunately that violence often times manifests itself during their performances and that’s exactly what happened last evening,” Bratton said. http://freebeacon.com/politics/gun-violence-bernie-sanders-supporters-concert/
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Sanders Superdelegates Unnerved by Nevada Convention ChaosConcerns about party unity are on the increase. In the wake of Bernie Sanders’s latest dustup with the Democratic establishment, some of his supporters are blanching.
“He talks about a revolution, but he needs to maybe define that in ways of civility, you know?” says Pete Gertonson, a Sanders superdelegate from Idaho. “He needs to get a grip on things and show us that he’s a leader. Is he gonna be the leader of an angry mob that he can’t control, or is he going to be the leader of something that will grow?” After last weekend’s violent Nevada state Democratic convention – where Bernie Sanders supporters shouted down speakers, threw chairs, and made death threats against the state party chairwoman for her supposed pro–Hillary Clinton bias – national party leaders widely expected the Vermont senator to condemn such behavior.
The Sanders campaign instead issued a scorched-earth statement after the convention’s close, blasting Democratic leadership in Nevada and across the nation while offering just a single line condemning “any and all forms of violence.” The senator also dodged a question from an NBC reporter, abruptly ending an interview when asked if he had a response to the violent behavior displayed by his supporters.
Sanders’s defiance hit a nerve, uniting leaders across the Democratic establishment in their condemnation of his response. “I thought he was going to do something different,” Senate minority leader Harry Reid said later on Tuesday. “Bernie should say something and not have some silly statement. Bernie is better than that.” DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said it “added more fuel to the fire.” Democratic senator Dianne Feinstein worried that the party could face the same kind of paralyzing unrest it experienced during the 1968 Chicago convention.
And Sanders’s supporters aren’t exactly rallying to his defense. Almost none of his high-profile surrogates, save Arizona congressman Raul Grijalva, have publicly backed his stance. And some of his own superdelegates seem hesitant to support the senator’s continued intransigence; most are concerned over the effect further angry outbursts could have on party unity. Many Sanders superdelegates appear loath to discuss the Nevada turmoil. Calls to several Sanders-supporting congressional offices went unreturned or were politely rebuffed, and one state party committeewoman says she won’t speak about the issue until after her upcoming reelection.
Others are refusing to take sides.... http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435647/bernie-sanders-delegates-worried-nevada-convention-chaosAnd have a looky at this quote: '“I think a lot of this is really overblown,” says Rich Cassidy, a Sanders superdelegate from Vermont. “There are millions of people supporting Bernie Sanders, and some of them have extreme views and extreme ways of expressing their views. And you can’t be held accountable for what the most extreme people who happen to be your supporters do.”' ^^^Take it away, folks. The thing you may not know is bernie sanders has a very bad temper. The berniebots represent him very well. He does not know how to keep his cool when he loses it. He wants a total chaos because, as a good leftist he is, he believes he will be the one raising from the carnage like a phoenix in the end. No, he will not disavow his berniebots and their mischievousness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K437Zd-gM0 Bernie Sanders was "Unbelievably Abusive" to Employees "They say I can be a real son of a bitch. They say I can be nasty" This is typical enough. Ralph Nader and Michael Moore both generated plenty of horror stories from the people who worked for them. Working for lefties is a miserable experience. Though Sanders has spent much of his life fighting for working Vermonters, they say he mistreats the people working for him. "As a supervisor, he was unbelievably abusive," says one former campaign staffer, who claims to have endured frequent verbal assaults. The double standard was clear: "He did things that, if he found out that another supervisor was doing in a workplace, he would go after them. You can't treat employees that way." Do as I say, not as I do is typical on the left. Bernie Sanders cares about working people the way Ted Kennedy cared about women. And here's what it was like working for Bernie. Criticism of Sanders' leadership abilities is nothing new. Steve Rosenfeld, a former Vermont journalist who served as Sanders' press secretary during his 1990 House campaign, wrote a book about his first successful statewide bid. In Making History in Vermont, Rosenfeld levels a tough assessment at his former boss, who passed him over for a congressional job at the campaign's end. "At his best, Sanders is a skilled reader and manipulator of people and events," Rosenfeld wrote. "At his worst, he falls prey to his own emotions, is unable to practice what he preaches (though he would believe otherwise) and exudes a contempt for those he derides, including his staff." Rosenfeld quotes Sanders himself in the book as saying, "Some people say I am very hard to work with. They say I can be a real son of a bitch. They say I can be nasty, I don't know how to get along with people. Well, maybe there's some truth to it." FACT CHECK: Mostly True. Also working for Bernie Sanders was a lot like working for a crazy celebrity. Even outside his staff, Sanders is well known in Vermont as a serious micromanager. Stories are legion of his calls to campaign aides en route to events to harangue them about the number of hot dogs and buns they'd bought. According to Sanders' former Senate staffer, his tendency to micromanage often hobbled the office's work. "Everything was done at the last second," that person said. "He made all the decisions." Clearly the guy you want running the country. http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/262218/bernie-sanders-was-unbelievably-abusive-employees-daniel-greenfield------------------------- Fact checked. By bernie himself.
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Sanders would have been the most sensible candidate for presidency. Wouldn't he?
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Sanders would have been the most sensible candidate for presidency. Wouldn't he?
No. A guy like that could easily be convinced to start military actions, basing his decisions ideologically instead of on practical grounds.
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Sanders would have been the most sensible candidate for presidency. Wouldn't he?
No. A guy like that could easily be convinced to start military actions, basing his decisions ideologically instead of on practical grounds. I don't think that Sanders is a warmonger, at least when compared to Hitlery. He has said that he is against invading third world nations, and intervening in the internal affairs of foreign nations. I don't know whether he will keep his word if he gets elected as the POTUS, but his foreign policy is much better than that of Hitlery.
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Sanders would have been the most sensible candidate for presidency. Wouldn't he?
No. A guy like that could easily be convinced to start military actions, basing his decisions ideologically instead of on practical grounds. I don't think that Sanders is a warmonger, at least when compared to Hitlery. He has said that he is against invading third world nations, and intervening in the internal affairs of foreign nations. I don't know whether he will keep his word if he gets elected as the POTUS, but his foreign policy is much better than that of Hitlery. My concern about Sanders is that he might be able to be convinced that a 'one world government' would result in the kind of socialist utopia he dreams of. I've heard various people who are hard left and possibly even communist blame the West for ruining the promise of the Soviet Union's more advanced (in their eyes) political system. I don't doubt that Sanders was at one time an 'Americans firster' but he might be able to be shifted. If the military power of the U.S. was what it would take to create a uni-polar world, I could see him playing his role as president to help the project along. Of course he and his followers would be discarded like a jiz-rag when their work was complete.
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My concern about Sanders is that he might be able to be convinced that a 'one world government' would result in the kind of socialist utopia he dreams of. I've heard various people who are hard left and possibly even communist blame the West for ruining the promise of the Soviet Union's more advanced (in their eyes) political system. The entire American economy is based on Capitalism, and it is not possible to transform it to a Socialist-based one. Even if Sanders becomes the POTUS, he will not be able to change the system. The US is not France, where a 75% tax on the uber-rich can be imposed. There will be riots and Sanders will be impeached in a matter of days. At the most, Sanders will be able to get a few minor things done, such as rising the minimum wages and providing healthcare to everyone. He will not be able to create his socialist utopia. And the armed forces are not going to back him, if he does not restrain himself.
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The entire American economy is based on Capitalism, and it is not possible to transform it to a Socialist-based one. Even if Sanders becomes the POTUS, he will not be able to change the system.
Isn't socialism supposed to come from capitalism? Much easier to make that transition than from a backwards third world country for example. Not that sanders is proposing anything like that. Or like a socialist utopia. He proposed nothing different than what america already had in the past. Not that long ago. A type of social democracy. Not socialism. The US is not France, where a 75% tax on the uber-rich can be imposed. There will be riots and Sanders will be impeached in a matter of days.
Why would a tax on the super rich cause riots? And didn't the us have some tax bracket like that in the past? If I remember correctly it was even higher for the wealthier.
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Why would a tax on the super rich cause riots? And didn't the us have some tax bracket like that in the past? If I remember correctly it was even higher for the wealthier. Insane tax rates are not going to work. The super-rich will just migrate to some other country, taking their assets and businesses with them. Millions of American citizens will be left without a job, and this will cause social unrest. You are right when you say that in the past the tax rates were high. For example, in 1944 the tax was 94% for those in the top-most slab (annual income greater than $200,000). However, such high rates can't be implemented today. It is not practical.
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May 31, 2016, 06:12:43 AM |
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Do these politicians have real solutions to any problem?
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Why would a tax on the super rich cause riots? And didn't the us have some tax bracket like that in the past? If I remember correctly it was even higher for the wealthier. Insane tax rates are not going to work. The super-rich will just migrate to some other country, taking their assets and businesses with them. Millions of American citizens will be left without a job, and this will cause social unrest. You are right when you say that in the past the tax rates were high. For example, in 1944 the tax was 94% for those in the top-most slab (annual income greater than $200,000). However, such high rates can't be implemented today. It is not practical. I think the opposite actually. It is much easier than in 1944. State's control is bigger than before, if the State really wants could collect a ridicolously huge amount of taxes. It can be done easily but this is not the right time... yet.
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Why would a tax on the super rich cause riots? And didn't the us have some tax bracket like that in the past? If I remember correctly it was even higher for the wealthier. Insane tax rates are not going to work. The super-rich will just migrate to some other country, taking their assets and businesses with them. Millions of American citizens will be left without a job, and this will cause social unrest. ... With a 'one-world' political and monetary system, where are these 'super-rich' going to go? In practice they will probably go anywhere they like and be quite happy since it is they who will be designing the system, but this will certainly be an element of the sales pitch used to sell it to the Bernie-bot class. As Thatcher says, Socialism works OK until you run out of other people's money. Making sure that said 'other people' cannot escape before being fleeced will have a powerful marketing potential.
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May 31, 2016, 03:36:14 PM |
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Power is not Money.
If you tax a billionaire at 99% he still has the power to travel all over the world and recreate his lost fortune with other billionaires. The real power is knowledge. If you are an artist, you do not lose your skills because you have broken strings on your guitar, or no more paint for your canvas.
The main problem with socialism is a lack of vision.
Socialists cannot project into the future.
Socialism does not scale.
Its geometry is fixed.
The ideology is not based on creativity.
Nature is pure creativity, construction, deconstruction, adaption, evolution. The exact opposite of socialism.
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We're Going To Kill Donald Trump - Says 3-Year-Old Mexican Girl Being Brainwashed by Her Parents Sad.
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