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Author Topic: [ANN][SHIFT] The New Web | IPFS/Phantom | ShiftNrg.org Hosted Decentralized!  (Read 547541 times)
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June 13, 2017, 12:53:49 AM
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How does SHIFT relate to blockstack? (blockstack.org).  Would they be competitors offering the same solution?
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June 13, 2017, 06:56:58 AM
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How does SHIFT relate to blockstack? (blockstack.org).  Would they be competitors offering the same solution?

Looks like they are
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June 13, 2017, 08:52:44 AM
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Hi,
I'm interested about distribution/inflation, can anybody share any info on that?

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June 13, 2017, 11:52:08 AM
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How does SHIFT relate to blockstack? (blockstack.org).  Would they be competitors offering the same solution?

I quickly looked at their website, and Blockstack needs a proprietary browser.

Shift runs in your current browser:
https://gateway.shiftnrg.org/ipfs/QmRm6bzVH7bebHCgjFu18cMNKsPMYyDcVR3u8Pp2RzgpMC/

Shift is ready for mass adoption.
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June 13, 2017, 02:33:29 PM
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Hi,
I'm interested about distribution/inflation, can anybody share any info on that?

Current supply is about 10.8 million. Inflation is about 1 million per year (1 Shift forged every 27 seconds).
https://explorer.shiftnrg.org/
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June 13, 2017, 02:39:51 PM
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Is this project affiliated with Lisk in any way?

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June 13, 2017, 05:22:56 PM
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Quoteception:
"Shift's focus is decentralized web hosting and Lisk's focus is dapps and sidechains, although they're based on the same codebase they could each do both… the teams have different focuses and different goals. Shift and Lisk have contributed to each other to make the codebase the better in the past. … Shift is focused on decentralized hosting and is not a direct competitor with Eth. Also a big differentiation is the use of IPFS web hosting/domain name registration, which I don't think has been done before in crypto."
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June 13, 2017, 07:08:36 PM
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Current supply is about 10.8 million. Inflation is about 1 million per year (1 Shift forged every 27 seconds).
https://explorer.shiftnrg.org/

Will the inflation be less in the future? Is there a cap on total number of tokens?

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June 13, 2017, 08:56:24 PM
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Is there any more info on the development team

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June 13, 2017, 09:22:49 PM
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https://www.shiftnrg.org/theteam/


You can access their githubs and such here


Talk to the teammembers directly if you have any questions by signing up to the Ryver Chat, the team is available every day as they develop Shift/Phantom

https://www.shiftnrg.org/contact/
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June 13, 2017, 11:46:57 PM
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https://www.shiftnrg.org/theteam/


You can access their githubs and such here


Talk to the teammembers directly if you have any questions by signing up to the Ryver Chat, the team is available every day as they develop Shift/Phantom

https://www.shiftnrg.org/contact/

thanks

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June 14, 2017, 01:21:20 AM
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Current supply is about 10.8 million. Inflation is about 1 million per year (1 Shift forged every 27 seconds).
https://explorer.shiftnrg.org/

Will the inflation be less in the future? Is there a cap on total number of tokens?

Inflation goes down as supply goes up. There was a blurb from Ralph on the Ryver a bit ago about the block reward increasing to 1.1, but nothing since. No cap on total number of coins. The relatively low supply right now could be argued as good or bad.
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June 14, 2017, 02:16:20 AM
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How does SHIFT relate to blockstack? (blockstack.org).  Would they be competitors offering the same solution?

I have gone through the 28 tutorial videos on blockstack's yt channel. there is a major drawback in their product. they use centralized servers to store user's data. each user has to register a google/aws/azure account and provide their storage in order to use the network. On the other hand if I get it right shift uses the ipfs network and pins data on phantom nodes ran by individuals.
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June 14, 2017, 02:40:40 AM
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How does SHIFT relate to blockstack? (blockstack.org).  Would they be competitors offering the same solution?

I have gone through the 28 tutorial videos on blockstack's yt channel. there is a major drawback in their product. they use centralized servers to store user's data. each user has to register a google/aws/azure account and provide their storage in order to use the network. On the other hand if I get it right shift uses the ipfs network and pins data on phantom nodes ran by individuals.

Wowsa! Yup, that's a dealbreaker right there. Too bad, I thought blockstack looked promising too.

That leaves SHIFT and MAID  Smiley
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June 14, 2017, 01:27:56 PM
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How does SHIFT relate to blockstack? (blockstack.org).  Would they be competitors offering the same solution?

I have gone through the 28 tutorial videos on blockstack's yt channel. there is a major drawback in their product. they use centralized servers to store user's data. each user has to register a google/aws/azure account and provide their storage in order to use the network. On the other hand if I get it right shift uses the ipfs network and pins data on phantom nodes ran by individuals.

Wowsa! Yup, that's a dealbreaker right there. Too bad, I thought blockstack looked promising too.

That leaves SHIFT and MAID  Smiley
Here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbly0UijDKs
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June 14, 2017, 04:10:30 PM
Last edit: June 14, 2017, 04:36:14 PM by shift2thefuture
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Maid runs into a similar mass adoption issue: ie accessing the network through a proprietary desktop browser, from what I understand

Over 50% of web traffic is mobile, so this type of "decentralized internet" has major accessibility issues (if it's ever actually released as well)


IPFS hashing, and especially leveraging human-readable domain names directly alongside IPFS hashing, is indistinguishable to the end-user: other than the fact that it is faster and more fault-tolerant than regular web-serving (as in, it is not subject to the whims of one server-center failing or being DDOSed- and it doesn't clog bandwidth over spans of potentially thousands of miles between end user and a server farm)

Also, having direct-monetization built in via blockchain could potentially be the much-needed replacement for the broken ad-monetization scheme that fuels the web today

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June 14, 2017, 04:27:23 PM
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Maid runs into a similar mass adoption issue: ie accessing the network through a proprietary desktop browser, from what I understand

Over 50% of web traffic is mobile, so this type of "decentralized internet" has major accessibility issues (if it's ever actually released as well)


IPFS hashing, and especially leveraging human-readable domain names directly alongside IPFS hashing, is indistinguishable to the end-user: other than the fact that it is faster and more fault-tolerant than regular web-serving (as in, it is not subject to the whims of one server-center failing or being DDOSed- and it doesn't clog bandwith over spans of potentially thousands of miles between end user and a server farm)

Also, having direct-monetization built in via blockchain could potentially be the much-needed replacement for the broken ad-monetization scheme that fuels the web today

Cheers

Amen!

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June 15, 2017, 07:51:01 AM
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Haha reminds me of Pascal.. with that wallet it's easy to see which account owns what and Poloniex has 85% of the circulating supply in their wallet.

In any case, just bought 4000 SHIFT @ 76000 sats.  Long and strong. Nice rebound in progess.

Bittrex don't own the coins, users of bittrex own their coins, I personally have some coins on bittrex just for trading and I am holding most of my coins out of the exchange.

where do you suggest storing shift coins.

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June 15, 2017, 02:57:20 PM
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Haha reminds me of Pascal.. with that wallet it's easy to see which account owns what and Poloniex has 85% of the circulating supply in their wallet.

In any case, just bought 4000 SHIFT @ 76000 sats.  Long and strong. Nice rebound in progess.

Bittrex don't own the coins, users of bittrex own their coins, I personally have some coins on bittrex just for trading and I am holding most of my coins out of the exchange.

where do you suggest storing shift coins.

You can make a wallet and store them there. Got to tools->wallet from the official site. Make sure to always use the official wallet!
https://www.shiftnrg.org/

It would also be smart to make a second passphrase and store it somewhere different than the first. Just make sure to not lose it!
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