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May 07, 2020, 12:50:45 PM
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Another little setback for the restart of Serie A. A Torino player was tested positive when the team returned to restart training. He was immediately placed in quarantine. The club is still keeping it secret which player was tested positive. Maybe other members know a bit more about the situation? 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/may/06/torino-player-tests-positive-for-covid-19-before-sides-return-to-training
Ouch! This hurts Undecided
Luckily this will not have a big impact on resuming Serie A, but if it appears that other players are/will be infected especially after resuming collective training or games then this could be the end of this season...

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May 07, 2020, 04:40:42 PM
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Another little setback for the restart of Serie A. A Torino player was tested positive when the team returned to restart training. He was immediately placed in quarantine. The club is still keeping it secret which player was tested positive. Maybe other members know a bit more about the situation? 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/may/06/torino-player-tests-positive-for-covid-19-before-sides-return-to-training

No, they kept him as a secret  Roll Eyes.
Anyway, this is normal, by the law of numbers cases will happen the risk 0  is not existing.

Today they got a potential meeting to have a date for the restart, nothing happened.
They probably want to wait 2 more weeks before the call to see how the phase 2 is going.

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May 07, 2020, 04:59:58 PM
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You can't just expect Italy to get back on games like Germany right away. I mean they lived through different stages, Germany had only 7k deaths and that is a sad thing to say, only 7k is not something I would like to say about death but that is true, Germany only had 7k death while they had 170k people who tested positive, so we all know they are capable of recovering anyone who gets it and their healthcare industry is actually quite good for it.

Whereas on Italy people died like flies, there was 30k people dead from 214k people who were infected which means it is not really doing that well, for a while there was almost a thousand people dying (was it around 700-800?) every day. So of course Germany comes back to league a lot quicker while it may take a bit longer for Italy.
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May 07, 2020, 06:25:59 PM
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You can't just expect Italy to get back on games like Germany right away. I mean they lived through different stages, Germany had only 7k deaths and that is a sad thing to say, only 7k is not something I would like to say about death but that is true, Germany only had 7k death while they had 170k people who tested positive, so we all know they are capable of recovering anyone who gets it and their healthcare industry is actually quite good for it.

Whereas on Italy people died like flies, there was 30k people dead from 214k people who were infected which means it is not really doing that well, for a while there was almost a thousand people dying (was it around 700-800?) every day. So of course Germany comes back to league a lot quicker while it may take a bit longer for Italy.
Deaths in Italy are indeed significant and the mortality rate there is quite high but I think the government can handle it in this case even though the medical center is also exhausted in treating it but I am sure for Italian football will start in June because there are already several teams that have that training means that the situation in football is under tight security so that implementation can take place next month.

I don't expect so much to just want Serie A to walk again after a lot of news about football starting in Italy.

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May 07, 2020, 08:34:35 PM
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Another little setback for the restart of Serie A. A Torino player was tested positive when the team returned to restart training. He was immediately placed in quarantine. The club is still keeping it secret which player was tested positive. Maybe other members know a bit more about the situation?  

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/may/06/torino-player-tests-positive-for-covid-19-before-sides-return-to-training

No, they kept him as a secret  Roll Eyes.
Anyway, this is normal, by the law of numbers cases will happen the risk 0  is not existing.

Today they got a potential meeting to have a date for the restart, nothing happened.
They probably want to wait 2 more weeks before the call to see how the phase 2 is going.


Players who test positive will just be sent home & told to stay away from the squad for a couple of weeks. It’s like any normal sickness rule, they get taken away from the healthy players. This whole pandemic is bull shit imo, young, healthy people are mostly fine.

Let’s get some normality back ASAP.

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May 07, 2020, 08:45:09 PM
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3 players from Fiorentina have been found positive.
They are all asymptomatic but positive.

This is normal, they are testing everyone and they will find more and more.


On large scale experts her in Italy are saying that only 20% of the population have symptoms.
The majority is positive without symptoms.

This is why they have found 10 in Germany and they will find more everywhere else when they will test everyone.

Also these positive have been infected probably during the lockdown in the past month.

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May 07, 2020, 11:45:56 PM
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3 players from Fiorentina have been found positive.
They are all asymptomatic but positive.

This is normal, they are testing everyone and they will find more and more.


On large scale experts her in Italy are saying that only 20% of the population have symptoms.
The majority is positive without symptoms.

This is why they have found 10 in Germany and they will find more everywhere else when they will test everyone.

Also these positive have been infected probably during the lockdown in the past month.
There is another risks that recovered people can be get positive tests later. Not only about false negative tests before but there are some cases like that and if tests are considered as true positive, there are more risks from recovered people.
Players who test positive will just be sent home & told to stay away from the squad for a couple of weeks. It’s like any normal sickness rule, they get taken away from the healthy players. This whole pandemic is bull shit imo, young, healthy people are mostly fine.

Let’s get some normality back ASAP.
The problems are not for healthy guys but for the elderly who live around healthy guys who can spread the virus and indirectly kill the elderly. Because of low death risks on healthy guys they tend to be less carefully and in turn put more risks on the elderly.

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May 08, 2020, 06:34:45 AM
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3 players from Fiorentina have been found positive.
They are all asymptomatic but positive.
3 players and 3 other members of the Fiorentina staff have been tested positive. That is not all.
4 players from Sampdoria are now positive as well. I believe this trend will continue and we will see more teams release the same info.

I just find it weird that this was not known before, like they did at Juventus. They tested everyone regularly and we knew what was going on.

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May 08, 2020, 03:07:57 PM
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therefore let s do the point of the situation in the last medical tests before the resumption of training 6 new positive players have appeared plus a recidivist but the question is why these analyzes were not done before and all those who came into contact with them should not be quarantined? like the other players, staff? and then they can really resume the championship in these conditions? Wouldn't it be better to put it off?
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May 08, 2020, 05:21:19 PM
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3 players from Fiorentina have been found positive.
They are all asymptomatic but positive.
3 players and 3 other members of the Fiorentina staff have been tested positive. That is not all.
4 players from Sampdoria are now positive as well. I believe this trend will continue and we will see more teams release the same info.

I just find it weird that this was not known before, like they did at Juventus. They tested everyone regularly and we knew what was going on.

therefore let s do the point of the situation in the last medical tests before the resumption of training 6 new positive players have appeared plus a recidivist but the question is why these analyzes were not done before and all those who came into contact with them should not be quarantined? like the other players, staff? and then they can really resume the championship in these conditions? Wouldn't it be better to put it off?

@Pmalek this is simply unacceptable as they’re putting the entire Italian League at risk by not conducting proper testing of their players, and I hope that other clubs are strictly testing their players, and immediately separating those players who are testing positive for this virus. It’s pertinent to note that the clubs will yet be allowed to train from 18th May despite these new cases, however the government may be forced to cancel the league if too many player’s suddenly test positive for this virus.

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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/sport/italian-season-in-limbo-with-new-wave-of-positive-coronavirus-12713468
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May 08, 2020, 05:25:43 PM
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The problems are not for healthy guys but for the elderly who live around healthy guys who can spread the virus and indirectly kill the elderly. Because of low death risks on healthy guys they tend to be less carefully and in turn put more risks on the elderly.

Regular testing & all games behind closed doors will lower risks. People are going to get the virus & people are going to die no matter what we do. The virus isn’t going away, a vaccine will take years. The world needs to start again, only a tiny minority of people die so sadly we need to accept some collateral damage.

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May 08, 2020, 07:55:23 PM
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therefore let s do the point of the situation in the last medical tests before the resumption of training 6 new positive players have appeared plus a recidivist but the question is why these analyzes were not done before and all those who came into contact with them should not be quarantined? like the other players, staff? and then they can really resume the championship in these conditions? Wouldn't it be better to put it off?
I think every player who returns will definitely do a medical test according to their rules because some players are from outside so it is very important that the medical test, but I want to know which of the 6 players I have positive from covid-19 are there any sources? because what I see now many players return to normal without being infected.

If the match is postponed without a championship then I am sure there will be a lot of polemics especially if it reaches the end of the season and of course if it continues, of course there will be many losses.

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May 08, 2020, 09:30:05 PM
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I just find it weird that this was not known before, like they did at Juventus. They tested everyone regularly and we knew what was going on.

As said OMS said to test only people with symptoms.
The death rate of COVID is way lower than 10-15% just because 80% of people have the virus but are asymptomatic. (not an official number but very close).

In every country, the majority of people with COVID are positive but have not been tested.



Anyway, a new small info is now official if the season will start (and we are going in this direction) teams cause the big number of games in a short amount of time and the hot incoming (in June we are over 30 in Italy even 35) teams will can up to 5 substitutions for the game.

Also new Juventus shit leaked today,
if Pogba comes I will buy one, love it.

Source leak: https://twitter.com/La_Bianconera/status/1258865205783789576/photo/1

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May 08, 2020, 10:42:34 PM
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Regular testing & all games behind closed doors will lower risks. People are going to get the virus & people are going to die no matter what we do. The virus isn’t going away, a vaccine will take years. The world needs to start again, only a tiny minority of people die so sadly we need to accept some collateral damage.
The problem is the elderly should be isolated somehow to reduce risks of having close contacts with the young. And the young need to self-adjust and also reduce their intensity of contacts to the elderly. Together, the elderly will be provide better from the virus with less infections. When the world has globally or nationally community immunity, things will be better for all. I would like to use the "community immunity" rather than the "herd immunity" that was born for too long and considered people like animals.

The young, basically don't like isolation or quarantine so it will be good for them to go outside, works, enjoy their lifes and somewhat help the elderly with better community immunity.  Smiley
Anyway, a new small info is now official if the season will start (and we are going in this direction) teams cause the big number of games in a short amount of time and the hot incoming (in June we are over 30 in Italy even 35) teams will can up to 5 substitutions for the game.
It is a good news that Serie A has still been on its direction to resume.
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"Coronavirus, the tests on the players begin: 6 new positives in Fiorentina, three in Sampdoria. And there is a case of recidivism, all asymptomatics."

https://www.news1.news/n1/2020/05/coronavirus-the-tests-on-the-players-begin-6-new-positives-in-fiorentina-three-in-sampdoria-and-there-is-a-case-of-recidivism.html

The tests to detect the Coronavirus must continue, Until the players and Staff are negative. It is a strict and rigorous to be able to return to training for a possible match very soon.

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Serie A is one of the competitions in Europe that still has the intention to finish the rest of the 2019/20 season competition. The highest football competition in Italy was encouraged to do so after participating clubs received permission to undergo limited training sessions. Individual training sessions have been conducted by clubs that have undergone Covid-19 examination.

Although some clubs have already undergone training, there are some Serie A participants who haven't been able to do so after getting a positive Covid-19 test result.  Fiorentina and Sampdoria are the only two clubs to return to the spotlight. Football Italia reported that the manager of Serie A and all participating clubs will again hold an emergency meeting on Wednesday (5/13) local time.
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Serie A is one of the competitions in Europe that still has the intention to finish the rest of the 2019/20 season competition. The highest football competition in Italy was encouraged to do so after participating clubs received permission to undergo limited training sessions. Individual training sessions have been conducted by clubs that have undergone Covid-19 examination.

Although some clubs have already undergone training, there are some Serie A participants who haven't been able to do so after getting a positive Covid-19 test result.  Fiorentina and Sampdoria are the only two clubs to return to the spotlight. Football Italia reported that the manager of Serie A and all participating clubs will again hold an emergency meeting on Wednesday (5/13) local time.
It means that there are still a number of clubs that have not been able to conduct training sessions because there are positive players who are co-19, of course the meeting will be an emergency because before the match starts in the near future maybe June will soon start, if they still haven't found a bright spot whether the Serie- A will experience a delay again?

In LaLiga there are also 3 players who are positive Covid-19 but there has been no confirmation from the local government how about the continuation it might be said quarantine would be better for those affected by positive covid-19.

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Nice to see Dybala back on the training in Turin.
He seems to be super happy right now



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Also new Juventus shit leaked today.
Looks really good indeed. The stripes are back and I like that the Jeep logo is not placed in that ridiculous rectangular box that they had in the past. Just looks cheap in my opinion, this is much better.   

I like the blue ones as well. Reminds me of SONY and the 90s.


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Away jersey looks simple but elegant I have to have a jersey like this Grin

But for the main jersey it looks cool too where the black lines are not as neat but this is a new style for 2020-2021.

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