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May 20, 2020, 10:10:59 PM
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Most of you probably are not Italian, and not have idea.
Playing football in some places/cities will be literally crazy due very high temperature even in the afternoon.

I was thinking the same BUT since if they play they will play in an empty stadium they can play a later hour like 22.00 Local time when the temperature is lower.

A small addition on what people wrote here if the season will stop again when and if it will restart, it will probably be completed with playoff with the first 4 teams.

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May 21, 2020, 07:00:16 AM
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As the teams return to training, the Premier League announced that six positive tests for coronavirus were found among 748 players and the staff of 19 clubs.
Efforts are being made to resume but it seems unlikely to happen.

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-and-sports-uefa-chief-claims-football-with-fans-will-be-back-soon/a-53318310

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May 21, 2020, 11:46:02 AM
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As the teams return to training, the Premier League announced that six positive tests for coronavirus were found among 748 players and the staff of 19 clubs.
Efforts are being made to resume but it seems unlikely to happen.

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-and-sports-uefa-chief-claims-football-with-fans-will-be-back-soon/a-53318310
Premier League isn't scheduled to restart before ~month and if we take on consideration that it requires approximately 14 days to heal from the virus, those players still have 2 weeks to reintegrate their teams + their number (pourcentage) isn't that high nor significant so no need to exaggerate thing imo

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May 21, 2020, 01:19:12 PM
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As the teams return to training, the Premier League announced that six positive tests for coronavirus were found among 748 players and the staff of 19 clubs.
Efforts are being made to resume but it seems unlikely to happen.

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-and-sports-uefa-chief-claims-football-with-fans-will-be-back-soon/a-53318310
Premier League isn't scheduled to restart before ~month and if we take on consideration that it requires approximately 14 days to heal from the virus, those players still have 2 weeks to reintegrate their teams + their number (pourcentage) isn't that high nor significant so no need to exaggerate thing imo

I think all football players should have isolated themselves the right way during this period. Thus, a 14-day period is not required for the teams to start their training. However, it is still necessary for everyone to comply with social distance at the beginning.

All footballers, technical team and all personnel must be completely isolated during the return period of these leagues. There aren't many matches left anyway. It may have been concluded quickly in the summer.
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May 21, 2020, 01:32:39 PM
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I was thinking the same BUT since if they play they will play in an empty stadium they can play a later hour like 22.00 Local time when the temperature is lower.
I don't think that will happen due to television rights and agreements that were previously made on that front. It's also late and viewers might not want to stay up to watch a match that will end at 00:00 or 01:00 if they have to work in the morning. Revenue from TV coverage will be vital at this time since they wont earn anything from ticket sales and fan merchandise. 

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May 21, 2020, 01:34:22 PM
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I think the decision of the government to be more entitled than the FIGC is because the government has more power in issuing this pandemic rule, Italy is really heavy and large that is infected by Covid-19 so it will be more difficult to continue before June 13th.

I think Serie A is really hard in making decisions if it is too fast then it is feared that more and more will be infected including staff and players.

Yup, that's true, even FIGC has exact date, if government doesn't give any permission, Serie-A will be done (canceled or based on last standing to choose the champions).

Anyway, there a news if sports minister Vincenzo Spadafora will be doing a meeting[1] on May 28, 2020. Also, there a rumor [2] if Serie-A must completed on August 20, 2020. The new season 2020/21 will be starting on September 1.

[1]. https://www.beinsports.com/au/serie-a/video/serie-a-seasons-fate-to-be-decided-by-28-may/1469132
[2]. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8342189/Serie-season-completed-August-20-September-1-start-date-2020-21.html

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May 21, 2020, 01:50:43 PM
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As the teams return to training, the Premier League announced that six positive tests for coronavirus were found among 748 players and the staff of 19 clubs.
Efforts are being made to resume but it seems unlikely to happen.

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-and-sports-uefa-chief-claims-football-with-fans-will-be-back-soon/a-53318310
Premier League isn't scheduled to restart before ~month and if we take on consideration that it requires approximately 14 days to heal from the virus, those players still have 2 weeks to reintegrate their teams + their number (pourcentage) isn't that high nor significant so no need to exaggerate thing imo

I think all football players should have isolated themselves the right way during this period. Thus, a 14-day period is not required for the teams to start their training. However, it is still necessary for everyone to comply with social distance at the beginning.

All footballers, technical team and all personnel must be completely isolated during the return period of these leagues. There aren't many matches left anyway. It may have been concluded quickly in the summer.
We will find out, once leagueS resumed, who will be the irresponsible idiot(s) that ruined a whole league(s) for fun (partying and other stupid unnecessary things). For the moment I am aware of one in England...
Hopefully there will be no one in the future.

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May 21, 2020, 02:29:29 PM
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You right.
The only solution then will be to do some cool off breaks in the middle of the 1st and 2nd time.

In addition to that keep in mind, they will probably, not confirmed yet, 5 substitutions up from 3.

I hope they can play all the games in the evening but in the last month if I'm not mistaken they were talking about 3-time slots/windows (I don't know the right term).

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May 21, 2020, 06:52:38 PM
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 I do not really see a reason to really continue, some other leagues may do it but Italy had the worst (maybe USA is worst now) in all of this pandemic and thats really horrible if you just count it like its nothing and go back to sports right away. I get that coming back would basically allow people to stay at home even more because they have been stuck for so long that they are bored and everyone who likes football will stay at home and watch it while even some people who normally wouldn't but bored because of it would stay at home as well.

 However there is also the fact that if you make people realize football is free and can be played and there is nothing wrong, they will feel like maybe pandemic is no longer a problem and they could be a little bit less careful and that could result in death, not many death because I doubt there is people who are that idiotic, but there are few who will be and I think thats still a risk I am not sure if league should take.

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May 21, 2020, 07:00:43 PM
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I don't know how much beforehand you have to start training before you could actually go into games but I feel like if these players are left alone they may still infect others when the time comes.

Definitely these players will heal, however (and this goes for any league) if people are left alone, like go back to their homes and not in lockdown, they could probably get the virus from somewhere and come back. So it would be basically risky to even start, right now bundesliga is doing fine but they were pretty clean anyway, as a nation they didn't do that bad at all. So for nations like UK and Italy it is a bit more risky, they have to find a way to not just keep checking if they have the virus or not, because that is not enough, you need to also prevent them from getting it as well.

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May 21, 2020, 08:32:26 PM
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I do not really see a reason to really continue

There is a valid reason called Money.
Football is not only the 22 people on the pitch for the game.
Football in Italy is the 3rd sector for working, with over 100.000 people working on it, from doctors, coaches, warehouse workers, gardeners...
Football money net is 6.000.000.000 € in Italy with over 1 billion taxes, that is why they want to start again.

Those are the active cases right now in Europe and as you can see Italy is not so bad now, the curve is going down quite quickly.
The hope is that the virus will not spread again ofcouse.




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The virus is much under control Italy has opened up everything in Europe People are back in their workplaces but everyone is moving consciously. With the virus under control, Italian football teams are set to resume and every player is already joining the game In that case I don't see any way to stop it It has gained legitimacy and the players are preparing for the next match.

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May 22, 2020, 07:40:02 AM
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I do not really see a reason to really continue

There is a valid reason called Money.
Football is not only the 22 people on the pitch for the game.
Football in Italy is the 3rd sector for working, with over 100.000 people working on it, from doctors, coaches, warehouse workers, gardeners...
Football money net is 6.000.000.000 € in Italy with over 1 billion taxes, that is why they want to start again.

Those are the active cases right now in Europe and as you can see Italy is not so bad now, the curve is going down quite quickly.
The hope is that the virus will not spread again ofcouse.



Source: https://www.rainews.it/ran24/speciali/2020/covid19/europe.php

The virus is much under control Italy has opened up everything in Europe People are back in their workplaces but everyone is moving consciously. With the virus under control, Italian football teams are set to resume and every player is already joining the game In that case I don't see any way to stop it It has gained legitimacy and the players are preparing for the next match.


@coinlocket$ you’re absolutely correct as money was the key factor why their government gave them the permission in the first place, and in my personal opinion I too feel that they’re correct to resume the league otherwise many will loose their jobs and that’ll not be good for their country’s economy. @Negotiation indeed the efforts of the Italian government have been rewarded, and now I’m eagerly looking forward for the Italian league to start again.

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https://news.yahoo.com/italys-daily-coronavirus-death-toll-160301547.html

https://www.the42.ie/big-five-leagues-season-complete-5050605-Mar2020/

https://www.espn.in/football/italian-serie-a/story/4096835/serie-a-teams-cleared-for-group-training-ahead-of-make-or-break-may-28-vote

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May 22, 2020, 11:18:11 AM
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I both agree with you to be vigilant. However, somehow "the show must go on"! Leagues should be made playable by taking all necessary measures. This is necessary for people who have to stay in their homes for days more than anything else. Moreover, even if we cannot keep athletes away from this disease with a discipline, then very difficult days are waiting for us ...
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May 22, 2020, 05:07:39 PM
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Money is not everything in life, life is everything in life Cheesy. If even one player dies, just one of them, everyone will realize that all of that money that could be earned would be for nothing. Hence I feel like the return would be too soon. Plus, there is a quicker recovery in Italy compared to many places only because they literally died to get rid of the virus. In other places it takes longer because people are trying to recover from it and that takes time compared to dying.

You can still bring back football, but I still suggest keeping everyone in check for a longer period of time, it is not only about players with no corona playing since that is safe, it is about also protecting the players from getting corona which will be very tough work to do when you let them be.

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May 22, 2020, 05:13:01 PM
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Money is not everything in life, life is everything in life Cheesy. If even one player dies, just one of them, everyone will realize that all of that money that could be earned would be for nothing. Hence I feel like the return would be too soon. Plus, there is a quicker recovery in Italy compared to many places only because they literally died to get rid of the virus. In other places it takes longer because people are trying to recover from it and that takes time compared to dying.
The more death tolls before, the more already infected people in the community, and the higher chance to sooner get herd immunity. There are cost and no one want to be among the deaths but it is life. I don't think players want to see league will be canceled or the next season will be canceled too. No one want that but if life goes hard, it will happen.
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You can still bring back football, but I still suggest keeping everyone in check for a longer period of time, it is not only about players with no corona playing since that is safe, it is about also protecting the players from getting corona which will be very tough work to do when you let them be.
Fortunately, the curve above shows the fact that the lockdown has its good results and the percent of already infected people probably is high. Maybe it still is lower than 60% but it is high than the percent at other nations.

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May 22, 2020, 05:21:56 PM
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Money is not everything in life, life is everything in life Cheesy.

Agree but most people need to works to get money to buy food, without food you will die too.
So where is possible we need to with all possible precautions to start the old life.

Anyway, fresh news! The minister of the sports for the 1st time is confident for a restart and for a good result on the last meeting sheduled for 28th May.

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May 22, 2020, 06:33:06 PM
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Money is not everything in life, life is everything in life Cheesy.

Agree but most people need to works to get money to buy food, without food you will die too.
So where is possible we need to with all possible precautions to start the old life.

Anyway, fresh news! The minister of the sports for the 1st time is confident for a restart and for a good result on the last meeting sheduled for 28th May.

We are not going to see the league to be restarted till the end of June.
It is very sad though to see those teams that were competing for the league like Juve, Lazio and Inter playing the critical games in a month full of warm temperatures like July. Players cannot give 100% at those temperatures.
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May 22, 2020, 08:25:51 PM
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We are not going to see the league to be restarted till the end of June.
It is very sad though to see those teams that were competing for the league like Juve, Lazio and Inter playing the critical games in a month full of warm temperatures like July. Players cannot give 100% at those temperatures.

The start of the league will probably be sooner than the end of the month!
They are thinking on starting in mid-June and maximum on the 20th of June.

The temperature in mid-June in the evening is not so bad here, probably it will be around 26 °C.
Keep also in mind they will probably do some cool off tie-breaks.

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May 24, 2020, 08:01:23 PM
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So, they modified the protocol again and the minister of sport is happier now but more under pressure since even Liga now said they will start.
He releases a statement saying that Serie A will likely start on June 13 or 20.

The last meeting will hopefully be for May 28, they must first see the effects of the start of phase 2 which occurred last week after the incubation period of the virus.
Still, a bad point on the protocol, if a player will find positive the whole team need to do 40 days of quarantine.

And the same question over and over rise: How they can end a season if one it will find positive?

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