Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A)

[snipie]

I think that Serie A will never end this year.
Italy had so many infections all that time and it is inevitable to see that no one of the players is going to get infected during the restart of the league. As you said if a player is found positive the whole team is going to go on quarantine but also the teams that had games with the team of the infected player.

Last time I checked the coronavirus chart i noticed that Italy is doing very well, without counting that most infected people are from the North which could be an alternative to relocate teams and games to the south. I assume that the resume date will be in late June or in July unless a major event happened in another league or in Italy like a second wave or a whole team infected...

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Actually the situation here is going better, it could be better for sure but it is better than other European countries.
A big thing will be on from the 18th of May when they will open more things.

From the 18th more stores will open and a new wave can hit the population but now, for example, we are under France as active cases.


Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Keep also in mind some people have a strange low rate of deaths because they are "hiding" or "skipping data" also if a nation is doing a low amount of tests they will have ofcouse a low amount of cases.

R0 should be around 0.6-0.7 now here.

[Juggy777]

I think that Serie A will never end this year.
Italy had so many infections all that time and it is inevitable to see that no one of the players is going to get infected during the restart of the league. As you said if a player is found positive the whole team is going to go on quarantine but also the teams that had games with the team of the infected player.

Last time I checked the coronavirus chart i noticed that Italy is doing very well, without counting that most infected people are from the North which could be an alternative to relocate teams and games to the south. I assume that the resume date will be in late June or in July unless a major event happened in another league or in Italy like a second wave or a whole team infected...

Actually the situation here is going better, it could be better for sure but it is better than other European countries.
A big thing will be on from the 18th of May when they will open more things.

From the 18th more stores will open and a new wave can hit the population but now, for example, we are under France as active cases.


Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Keep also in mind some people have a strange low rate of deaths because they are "hiding" or "skipping data" also if a nation is doing a low amount of tests they will have ofcouse a low amount of cases.

R0 should be around 0.6-0.7 now here.

@Naida_br I think you need to be more optimistic and pray that the league resumes soon, because lots of money is at stake and if the league doesn’t resume soon then many people could permanently loose their jobs. @coinlocket$ yes the situation is definitely improving in Italy, and we all should also sincerely pray that the league starts and ends peacefully without any player or staff getting infected by the virus.

Sources:

https://acmilan.theoffside.com/2020/4/29/21239039/italian-minister-of-sport-vincenzo-spadafora-uncertain-when-serie-a-will-start-again-ac-milan-news

https://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/serie-a-will-resume-when-safety-guaranteed-sports-minister-120051301120_1.html

https://www.goal.com/en-bn/news/serie-a-comeback-italy-light-covid-19-tunnel/10qbskwwp4vjj1efcpdg8zuslu

[bitbollo]

It's absolutely true, situation in Italy is improving and most of activities will open again from Monday 18th May.

But there are few things to consider about start of Serie A .
- most of teams are in the north/centre of Italy, in the south there is only Naples (Napoli).
- Covid19 daily cases are already too much respect other countries (despite an heavy lockdown for a couple of months there...)  
- some restrictions have been removed and there is a probability that another "wave" would come in the next weeks
- some players have been infected, and according our national guidance actually is to risky get teams infected (Club's president should pay a lot of money as insurance for these players...)
- no income from football stadium (it's impossible make social distance or ask people to follow this restriction)

let's see what happens at this point since there is a strong economic interest behind and they are urging to find a solution

[Nadziratel]

@Naida_br I think you need to be more optimistic and pray that the league resumes soon, because lots of money is at stake and if the league doesn’t resume soon then many people could permanently loose their jobs. @coinlocket$ yes the situation is definitely improving in Italy, and we all should also sincerely pray that the league starts and ends peacefully without any player or staff getting infected by the virus.

In fact, many leagues are already working to return. Bundesliga is returning tomorrow. Apart from this, return activities continue in many leagues. Even in a country where the disease is watched extensively like Italy, there is a possibility now. In my country (Turkey) continues preparations. However, positive cases from many teams started to be reported. The teams continue their work, but I think there is a possibility that there will be a problem.

[Daniel91]

The Italian Premier League association believes the league could resume on 13 June and that by the end of the competition they could have a very tight match Schedule.
President of the Italian Federation Gabriele Gravina is worried that everything could fall into the water if even one player is positive on the corona because then all the players have to be quarantined.
Source: https://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/sef-talijanskog-saveza-moguce-je-da-ce-se-serie-a-zavrsiti-playoffom/2183428.aspx

[bitgolden]

If they could isolate the whole teams there is a chance but they do not focus on that idea for some reason. Definitely it is not always easy to keep everyone at the same place, but that is the best possibility right now. Get all the teams in the league on the same stadium, get a place nearby very close, put all the staff, maintenance, players, security and everyone in that place, make them stay there for a month and constantly test them, and I mean like every 12 hours test them, there should be literally nobody that has a contact with outside world.

If there is anything needed, just have a place where people would make a drop off and after they leave you take it that way nobody contacts with anyone. That would 100% work but somehow nobody talks about it.

[coinlocket$]

Adding more info, today the Prime minister has spoken and to me is too early on what he is doing

• Italy is re-opening and is going fully in phase 2
• From 18th May, will open almost everything who can follow the social distancing protocol like bars, restaurants and more
• From 03rd of June, people from EU can travel to Italy without doing the quarantine
• From 13th of June will open the rest of activities like Cinemas

Now the interesting part of football

• He said we still have not an official date when and if it will restart
• For a new start they want a more elaborate plan

So, in the end, the intention is to start again but is not sure if they will.
If phase 2 will fail, need around 2 weeks to see if cases will increase there is no way that the season will end.


To be continued...

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@Naida_br I think you need to be more optimistic and pray that the league resumes soon, because lots of money is at stake and if the league doesn’t resume soon then many people could permanently loose their jobs. @coinlocket$ yes the situation is definitely improving in Italy, and we all should also sincerely pray that the league starts and ends peacefully without any player or staff getting infected by the virus.

In fact, many leagues are already working to return. Bundesliga is returning tomorrow. Apart from this, return activities continue in many leagues. Even in a country where the disease is watched extensively like Italy, there is a possibility now. In my country (Turkey) continues preparations. However, positive cases from many teams started to be reported. The teams continue their work, but I think there is a possibility that there will be a problem.

Today the Bundesliga is running normally there is no problem at all it's just that without spectators in the match, but I'm sure Italy will also do the same thing where they will implement like Germany so that the league runs smoothly, of course with optimism and pray I want the Italian league match continued because many bettors were waiting for the match.

I hope that in Turkey it will also be resolved soon because this is what we hope for by praying that God will grant it.

[verita1]

The national Ministry of Health said that a new wave of infections is expected during the months of September and October. Hopefully this prediction is not fulfilled and that there is an advance to counteract the virus.
Because the measures you are saying are being taken to avoid infections. Italy like all countries needs to resume their economies safely.

[snipie]

Today the Bundesliga is running normally there is no problem at all it's just that without spectators in the match, but I'm sure Italy will also do the same thing where they will implement like Germany so that the league runs smoothly, of course with optimism and pray I want the Italian league match continued because many bettors were waiting for the match.

I hope that in Turkey it will also be resolved soon because this is what we hope for by praying that God will grant it.

Bundesliga games were quite good and without incident, that's true but if you are referring to Coronavirus then we have to wait for 7-14 days to see if there was an incident or not. Even if the players are tested negative, this couldn't exclude with 100% the possibility of carrying the virus under the detection level.
Anyway I am personally happy to see things going well and hope it will continue like that. What perplexed me is that Italy is opening its frontiers a little bit soon which is a risky move imo, even if European countries are having a slow down but well...
You mentioned Turkey, i think it will take much more time there since the spread of the infection was delayed few weeks in comparison to Italy and the daily positive rate was higher.

[hd49728]

Bundesliga games were quite good and without incident, that's true but if you are referring to Coronavirus then we have to wait for 7-14 days to see if there was an incident or not.

It is a good restart for Bundesliga but things will become clearer next 2 weeks. I hope that at least there will be no serious incidents next one month, then if something happen, Bundesliga will have great chance (with so little matches) left and the season will be able to finish.

Even if the players are tested negative, this couldn't exclude with 100% the possibility of carrying the virus under the detection level.
Anyway I am personally happy to see things going well and hope it will continue like that. What perplexed me is that Italy is opening its frontiers a little bit soon which is a risky move imo, even if European countries are having a slow down but well...

There are two ways to end the pandemic: from health perspective and from social perspective. Don't let the virus and the pandemic destroy the world completely on many aspects of our lives.

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New week, new drama.
The recovery of football in Italy is turning into a comedy.

• Last week the president of Italian sport said that football will start 99% on June 13th
• Yesterday the prime minister made a law that banned team sports games until June 14th

• Today the Minister of Sports said that the 28 Goigno will meet to decide if and when Seria A will be able to restart.
• The scientific and technical committee gave the go-ahead for team training and changed the protocol in case of contagion
• The president of the players' unions wants at least 4 weeks of training

To be continued...

[snipie]

New week, new drama.
The recovery of football in Italy is turning into a comedy.

• Last week the president of Italian sport said that football will start 99% on June 13th
• Yesterday the prime minister made a law that banned team sports games until June 14th

• Today the Minister of Sports said that the 28 Goigno will meet to decide if and when Seria A will be able to restart.
• The scientific and technical committee gave the go-ahead for team training and changed the protocol in case of contagion
• The president of the players' unions wants at least 4 weeks of training

To be continued...

Technically there are all talking about resuming Serie A which is a good news, the problem is when! They don't have the courage of Germany nor the cowardness of French and others (pissed for their retreat retreat, abort abort!!), so it will take a time for sure but hopefully at the end we will know who gonna grab that title!

[hd49728]

• Last week the president of Italian sport said that football will start 99% on June 13th
• Yesterday the prime minister made a law that banned team sports games until June 14th

• Today the Minister of Sports said that the 28 Goigno will meet to decide if and when Seria A will be able to restart.
• The scientific and technical committee gave the go-ahead for team training and changed the protocol in case of contagion

Finally, I think they will come to an agreement to resume the Serie A. Only some discussions on matches and solution for quarantine if players infected with the virus. They are all talking about the resume, it is good, generally.

• The president of the players' unions wants at least 4 weeks of training

Maybe 2 weeks of individual trainings and next 2 weeks for group trainings before bringing the Serie A matches to real life. I think the training schedule is good and help to increase the general match quality. I have a feeling that they all want to delay the resuming day for next 2 or 4 weeks later than previous schedule just to reduce risks of infected players. It's their hope and it is a good way to make sure whenever the league will be resumed, it will have as biggest chance as possible to finish the season.

[onrise]

New week, new drama.
The recovery of football in Italy is turning into a comedy.

• Last week the president of Italian sport said that football will start 99% on June 13th
• Yesterday the prime minister made a law that banned team sports games until June 14th

• Today the Minister of Sports said that the 28 Goigno will meet to decide if and when Seria A will be able to restart.
• The scientific and technical committee gave the go-ahead for team training and changed the protocol in case of contagion
• The president of the players' unions wants at least 4 weeks of training

To be continued...

This is little weired as it seems their is lack of coordination among the respective groups to come to the same date or identify just the month and give a go ahead which may be tentative only. But good part is that things are looking back to resume which is vital and making progress towards it is the beneficial. Hope we can see the action back on ground as quickly as possible .

[Naida_BR]

New week, new drama.
The recovery of football in Italy is turning into a comedy.

• Last week the president of Italian sport said that football will start 99% on June 13th
• Yesterday the prime minister made a law that banned team sports games until June 14th

• Today the Minister of Sports said that the 28 Goigno will meet to decide if and when Seria A will be able to restart.
• The scientific and technical committee gave the go-ahead for team training and changed the protocol in case of contagion
• The president of the players' unions wants at least 4 weeks of training

To be continued...

13th June is a long way in order to start the league.
Possibly all ends are going to be met and the league is going to start in the beginning of June - Maybe 5-6th June.
In case an infection happens then the league might be possibly canceled again.

[masulum]

^ There is still not a final decision, if conditions in Italy more better, maybe they will start the league before 13 June. But, the problem is, FIGC not the only one the decision maker to continue Serie-A or other sports league, they needed confirmation from prime minister too, as you see on @coinlocket$ post, prime minister banned any sports until 14 June, it's will hard to resuming Serie-A before 13 June.

[bitbollo]

I know this is a discussion only about SERIE A but has been announced by FIGC that they will not restart other minor league except Serie A/B/C.
About major leagues, it has been announced also the date of 20th August 2020 for their completion.
Most of you probably are not Italian, and not have idea.
Playing football in some places/cities will be literally crazy due very high temperature even in the afternoon.
I am still curious to see how it evolve ... and probably this could be a bias for the whole competition.

source:
https://www.repubblica.it/sport/calcio/2020/05/20/news/consiglio_federale_figc-257172102/?ref=RHPPTP-BH-I0-C12-P4-S1.12-T1

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^ There is still not a final decision, if conditions in Italy more better, maybe they will start the league before 13 June. But, the problem is, FIGC not the only one the decision maker to continue Serie-A or other sports league, they needed confirmation from prime minister too, as you see on @coinlocket$ post, prime minister banned any sports until 14 June, it's will hard to resuming Serie-A before 13 June.

I think the decision of the government to be more entitled than the FIGC is because the government has more power in issuing this pandemic rule, Italy is really heavy and large that is infected by Covid-19 so it will be more difficult to continue before June 13th.

I think Serie A is really hard in making decisions if it is too fast then it is feared that more and more will be infected including staff and players.