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December 22, 2023, 08:25:08 AM
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Of course not, but I share the opinion that this game was approached in a very weird way by Walter Mazzari. I don't know if this was incompetence by him or underestimation at its best, but how can a team like Napoli underestimate another team from Serie A. It is not like they played against a team from the Serie B or worse than that when it happens that the far superior favorite underestimates how hard it can be to beat those teams. Take Bayern as an example when they played against a 3. Bundesliga team and lost, but nobody would ever say that was on purpose. If that were true, the coach would get sacked immediately.
Shocking to see Napoli losing 4 nil to Frosinone and not been able to maintain consistent performance in the Seria A matches. Could it be that all these unplanned negative results happens because Luciano Spalleti steps down from managing the club? Though he resign and I'm confident Napoli will bounce back to winning matches but it will take lengthy period because we can never be too sure of these matches. Napoli headcoach,Walter Mazzarri have learnt his lesson and he will not give room for any poor performance from his team, he's aiming for the best spot on the table.
Walter Mazzari can't predictable with many rotation made have loss against Frosinone 4-0 on Copa Italia round of 16, the defeat against Frosinone added to Walter Mazzari's worst performance record with Napoli with 7 matches in all competitions, Napoli achieved 4 defeats and 3 wins. So far, Walter Mazzari still difficult for winning against top teams because 3 won of 7 matches all competition Napoli won against Atalanta, Braga and Cagliari.
I don't sure with Walter Mazzari position will be longer as Napoli manager because he has bad started with 4 losses of 7 matches give him bad reputation exactly Napoli have dropped from top standings in Serie A.

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December 22, 2023, 09:12:28 AM
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There is a possibility that Napoli will enter the fourth position in the Italy Serie A table if they can get a draw match from Roma because Bologna's match against Atalanta will be a tough one, and it can end in a draw match or Atalanta wins against Bologna. Napoli can challenge for the Serie A title if they are with Osimhen till the end of the season.
For this season, it looks like Napoli will no longer be a title contender in Serie A, even though they can try to get into the top four zone of the Serie A standings. A distance of one point from Bologna is not difficult for Napoli to surpass if Bologna can lose at home when they face Atalanta, but I don't think Bologna will be that weak when playing at home. Apart from that, Napoli also have to be able to beat Roma at the Stadio Olimpico, Rome, which is also not an easy thing for Napoli.

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December 22, 2023, 09:42:11 AM
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There never was an intention to get kicked out of the Coppa Italia competition as some people here argue because this cup can't be compared to the league cup in England, where they actually have like three cups or so? The Coppa Italia is the main Italian cup and no team would ever try to lose on purpose in order to be able to focus more on other competitions, that's bullshit. A team like Napoli, a Champions League contender, plans to get kicked out of the Coppa Italia... No, really never.
I don't think it would be thrown on purpose. He is not kicked out willingly, nor do the players want this, after all, they have in their contracts that they will receive extra bonuses for the goals they score. Every team wants to win the cup. It was a match that was lost as a result of the bad experiences in Napoli this year.

The bonuses in their contracts are probably only a minor incentive as their base salary is usually high enough that winning trophies brings them only a little extra in relative terms, but they are professionals for a reason, they have been dreaming of winning trophies and winning the Coppa Italia is huge for every player. It is a nice trophy and not some second tier trophy. It is also a unique competition that has its own character. When you play in the Conference League, it will be called the third tier because it is below the Europa League and the Champions League. But Coppa Italia is a unique competition and there is no negative connotation coming with that competition.

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December 22, 2023, 09:43:26 AM
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It seems like Milan won't be able to get closer to Inter and Juventus by the games on this week. Because while they have a really comfortable game to play ahead the situation is the same for Inter and Juventus as well. They also have comfortable games to play so I expect all of these three teams to win their games without problem.

Juventus stumbled upon the Genoa game last week maybe but I don't think they will repeat this mistake. This is just bad for them as Inter are opening the gap whenever Juventus make point losses easily. I expect a more convincing performance in the attacking line from Juventus this time.

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December 22, 2023, 09:45:49 AM
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Of course not, but I share the opinion that this game was approached in a very weird way by Walter Mazzari. I don't know if this was incompetence by him or underestimation at its best, but how can a team like Napoli underestimate another team from Serie A. It is not like they played against a team from the Serie B or worse than that when it happens that the far superior favorite underestimates how hard it can be to beat those teams. Take Bayern as an example when they played against a 3. Bundesliga team and lost, but nobody would ever say that was on purpose. If that were true, the coach would get sacked immediately.
Shocking to see Napoli losing 4 nil to Frosinone and not been able to maintain consistent performance in the Seria A matches. Could it be that all these unplanned negative results happens because Luciano Spalleti steps down from managing the club? Though he resign and I'm confident Napoli will bounce back to winning matches but it will take lengthy period because we can never be too sure of these matches. Napoli headcoach,Walter Mazzarri have learnt his lesson and he will not give room for any poor performance from his team, he's aiming for the best spot on the table.
Walter Mazzari can't predictable with many rotation made have loss against Frosinone 4-0 on Copa Italia round of 16, the defeat against Frosinone added to Walter Mazzari's worst performance record with Napoli with 7 matches in all competitions, Napoli achieved 4 defeats and 3 wins. So far, Walter Mazzari still difficult for winning against top teams because 3 won of 7 matches all competition Napoli won against Atalanta, Braga and Cagliari.
I don't sure with Walter Mazzari position will be longer as Napoli manager because he has bad started with 4 losses of 7 matches give him bad reputation exactly Napoli have dropped from top standings in Serie A.

Mazzari joined Napoli a few weeks ago and that's pretty much normal to see Napoli is not very stable in these days. In fact, they are just trying to change the system and their playing style I think we should give much more time to Mazzari to get a more stable situation in Napoli because the current Napoli we see is much stronger to lose the game with a 4-0 result to Frosinone and this results was mostly because of the unstable and new coach in this team after Rudi Garcia left.

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December 22, 2023, 10:13:26 AM
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There never was an intention to get kicked out of the Coppa Italia competition as some people here argue because this cup can't be compared to the league cup in England, where they actually have like three cups or so? The Coppa Italia is the main Italian cup and no team would ever try to lose on purpose in order to be able to focus more on other competitions, that's bullshit. A team like Napoli, a Champions League contender, plans to get kicked out of the Coppa Italia... No, really never.

Of course not, but I share the opinion that this game was approached in a very weird way by Walter Mazzari. I don't know if this was incompetence by him or underestimation at its best, but how can a team like Napoli underestimate another team from Serie A. It is not like they played against a team from the Serie B or worse than that when it happens that the far superior favorite underestimates how hard it can be to beat those teams. Take Bayern as an example when they played against a 3. Bundesliga team and lost, but nobody would ever say that was on purpose. If that were true, the coach would get sacked immediately.
I'm still having trouble understanding Napoli's 4-0 loss against Frosinone. For every Napoli supporter, this is a bitter pill to swallow. I think Mazzarri took the wrong approach, but let's also consider the consequences of Spalletti's exit. The team is obviously still getting used to this adjustment, imo. Undoubtedly, a coach has a big impact, but it's not the only factor. Though it may not have worked out this time, I think Mazzarri is still learning from his mistakes in resting important players in pivotal games. I have a cautious sense of optimism over the UEFA Champions League. Despite their talent, they will need to play consistently and with great strategy if they want to go past the quarterfinals.

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There never was an intention to get kicked out of the Coppa Italia competition as some people here argue because this cup can't be compared to the league cup in England, where they actually have like three cups or so? The Coppa Italia is the main Italian cup and no team would ever try to lose on purpose in order to be able to focus more on other competitions, that's bullshit. A team like Napoli, a Champions League contender, plans to get kicked out of the Coppa Italia... No, really never.

Of course not, but I share the opinion that this game was approached in a very weird way by Walter Mazzari. I don't know if this was incompetence by him or underestimation at its best, but how can a team like Napoli underestimate another team from Serie A. It is not like they played against a team from the Serie B or worse than that when it happens that the far superior favorite underestimates how hard it can be to beat those teams. Take Bayern as an example when they played against a 3. Bundesliga team and lost, but nobody would ever say that was on purpose. If that were true, the coach would get sacked immediately.
I'm still having trouble understanding Napoli's 4-0 loss against Frosinone. For every Napoli supporter, this is a bitter pill to swallow. I think Mazzarri took the wrong approach, but let's also consider the consequences of Spalletti's exit. The team is obviously still getting used to this adjustment, imo. Undoubtedly, a coach has a big impact, but it's not the only factor. Though it may not have worked out this time, I think Mazzarri is still learning from his mistakes in resting important players in pivotal games. I have a cautious sense of optimism over the UEFA Champions League. Despite their talent, they will need to play consistently and with great strategy if they want to go past the quarterfinals.

@slapper nothing about Napoli surprises me anymore because of their gross mismanagement they’re facing such loses and unless they own up their mistakes and make sincere efforts to rectify it they won’t really achieve any goals that they may have set out for this season. Furthermore with the January transfer window almost here if Victor departs then their season will only get worst hence they should do their best and convince him to stay at least till the end of this current season.
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December 22, 2023, 10:44:59 AM
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There is a possibility that Napoli will enter the fourth position in the Italy Serie A table if they can get a draw match from Roma because Bologna's match against Atalanta will be a tough one, and it can end in a draw match or Atalanta wins against Bologna. Napoli can challenge for the Serie A title if they are with Osimhen till the end of the season.
For this season, it looks like Napoli will no longer be a title contender in Serie A, even though they can try to get into the top four zone of the Serie A standings. A distance of one point from Bologna is not difficult for Napoli to surpass if Bologna can lose at home when they face Atalanta, but I don't think Bologna will be that weak when playing at home. Apart from that, Napoli also have to be able to beat Roma at the Stadio Olimpico, Rome, which is also not an easy thing for Napoli.
There is no longer any need to include Napoli as a challenger for champions this season because they have failed and will not be able to defend last season's title, and we often see teams that become champions other than Juventus, AC Milan or Inter Milan will always experience difficulties in defending the title and usually will it takes a long time to become champions again, maybe there is a mismanagement with teams like that so they can only occasionally win and make the fans happy because they can see other teams besides the three I mentioned above can become champions but then these three teams will again take turns becoming Serie A champions.
Napoli against Roma has a big chance of winning, especially in their last seven meetings. Roma always failed to get full points even though they are the home team, maybe H2H is not the right reference for analyzing the match later, but of the two teams, Napoli is better when facing tight matches. only they are often careless when facing weak teams which makes them far behind Inter and Juventus.

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December 22, 2023, 11:00:11 AM
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It seems like Milan won't be able to get closer to Inter and Juventus by the games on this week. Because while they have a really comfortable game to play ahead the situation is the same for Inter and Juventus as well. They also have comfortable games to play so I expect all of these three teams to win their games without problem.

Juventus stumbled upon the Genoa game last week maybe but I don't think they will repeat this mistake. This is just bad for them as Inter are opening the gap whenever Juventus make point losses easily. I expect a more convincing performance in the attacking line from Juventus this time.

Juventus made the biggest mistake of last week. They lost a point in a very easy match and this lost point will hurt them a lot.
If they continue to lose points in such matches, their chances of becoming champions decrease day by day.
There may be one of these 3 teams that loses points this week. I don't know why but I feel like that, we may see a surprising result Smiley

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December 22, 2023, 11:10:28 AM
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There is a possibility that Napoli will enter the fourth position in the Italy Serie A table if they can get a draw match from Roma because Bologna's match against Atalanta will be a tough one, and it can end in a draw match or Atalanta wins against Bologna. Napoli can challenge for the Serie A title if they are with Osimhen till the end of the season.
For this season, it looks like Napoli will no longer be a title contender in Serie A, even though they can try to get into the top four zone of the Serie A standings. A distance of one point from Bologna is not difficult for Napoli to surpass if Bologna can lose at home when they face Atalanta, but I don't think Bologna will be that weak when playing at home. Apart from that, Napoli also have to be able to beat Roma at the Stadio Olimpico, Rome, which is also not an easy thing for Napoli.
Yes, exactly. It is difficult to say that Napoli can defend the Serie A title this season considering they started the season badly and now there is a change of coach, of course it is difficult for them to defend the title because they need to adapt again.

However, in my opinion, getting into the top four is still logical, even though Napoli failed to win this week against As Roma, their chances of getting into the top four by the end of the season are still wide open because the league is still long. It's not that I underestimate Bologna, but considering that Bologna is a team with uneven players, they will definitely lose points in the next few matches.
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December 22, 2023, 11:12:17 AM
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Monza Vs Fiorentina
The match between Monza and Fiorentina is expected to be a close one at the Stadio Brianteo in Serie A today. Both teams have had mixed results in their recent games. Monza, who are 10th in the league table, will be looking to bounce back from their recent defeat and will especially hope to improve their goal-scoring record at home. On the other hand, Fiorentina be aiming to continue their unbeaten run and secure an away win. A win for Fiorentina today could see them move back into the top four in the league table. Given the recent form of both teams and the absence of their team players, I feel that the match will end in a low scoring draw.

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December 22, 2023, 11:22:19 AM
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Juventus stumbled upon the Genoa game last week maybe but I don't think they will repeat this mistake. This is just bad for them as Inter are opening the gap whenever Juventus make point losses easily. I expect a more convincing performance in the attacking line from Juventus this time.
Juventus performance was very poor on there match against Genoa even with all there performance this season they failed to win the match, they has the experience and performance that was supposed to give them the victory they needed on that match but it was quite unfortunate that Juventus was unable to utilize the opportunity they had against Goa, actually I never believe that Goa will hold a draw against Juventus because Genoa performance this season is not quite impressive do to there series of losing on most of there matches lately so Juventus should have utilize the opportunity and win the match but it was unfortunate that they were unable to win Genoa.

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December 22, 2023, 11:35:56 AM
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It seems like Milan won't be able to get closer to Inter and Juventus by the games on this week. Because while they have a really comfortable game to play ahead the situation is the same for Inter and Juventus as well. They also have comfortable games to play so I expect all of these three teams to win their games without problem.

AC Milan must fight harder if they want to get closer to Juventus and Inter Milan, because I see they still have basic problems and still often occur during the match. They must minimize such things, because it will greatly affect the results of the matches they play. Behind 9 points from the top standings, Inter Milan is not a distance that can be pursued easily, especially now that Inter Milan has an impressive appearance in every week.

Monza Vs Fiorentina
The match between Monza and Fiorentina is expected to be a close one at the Stadio Brianteo in Serie A today. Both teams have had mixed results in their recent games. Monza, who are 10th in the league table, will be looking to bounce back from their recent defeat and will especially hope to improve their goal-scoring record at home. On the other hand, Fiorentina be aiming to continue their unbeaten run and secure an away win. A win for Fiorentina today could see them move back into the top four in the league table. Given the recent form of both teams and the absence of their team players, I feel that the match will end in a low scoring draw.
Fiorentina came with a winning target in this match, as well as Monza they certainly did not want to be humiliated by the visitors. Broadly speaking, Fiorentina are more favored in this match, but that is not a guarantee that they will really win. Monza itself benefits from being the host, but with the status they hold does not mean they will easily beat Fiorentina, because it is an external factor in a game.
I think this match will be quite tight, and I personally predict Fiorentina will go home with full points.

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December 22, 2023, 11:36:21 AM
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Juventus made the biggest mistake of last week. They lost a point in a very easy match and this lost point will hurt them a lot.
If they continue to lose points in such matches, their chances of becoming champions decrease day by day.
There may be one of these 3 teams that loses points this week. I don't know why but I feel like that, we may see a surprising result Smiley
Last season, all the teams in the top of the table lost points, all except Napoli, and Inter are not the kind of team that can go the whole season without losing points. Of course it’s bad that Juventus lost points, they allowed Inter to increase their lead, they are making the task more difficult for themselves. I don’t think it will be so easy for Milan to overtake Juventus, but the same goes for Inter, they look good and are probably capable of becoming champions this season.

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December 22, 2023, 11:38:55 AM
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It seems like Milan won't be able to get closer to Inter and Juventus by the games on this week. Because while they have a really comfortable game to play ahead the situation is the same for Inter and Juventus as well. They also have comfortable games to play so I expect all of these three teams to win their games without problem.

Juventus stumbled upon the Genoa game last week maybe but I don't think they will repeat this mistake. This is just bad for them as Inter are opening the gap whenever Juventus make point losses easily. I expect a more convincing performance in the attacking line from Juventus this time.

They'll be playing tonight and that should be one of the games I feel like they should win, too much they've faced this season it's time to buckle up honestly.
Inter Milan and Juventus both could also drop points tonight. Juventus should still share points tonight or that should be tommorow. Inter Milan I can't predict but they should go on to play a first half draw for the club tonight. The point gap should be three between AC Milan and Juventus.

Inter Milan got knocked out of the Copa Italia after drawing the full game against Bologna. I think they will find it difficult to handle the first half of the game tommorow. They will have to work hard to win tue full game.

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I'm still having trouble understanding Napoli's 4-0 loss against Frosinone. For every Napoli supporter, this is a bitter pill to swallow. I think Mazzarri took the wrong approach, but let's also consider the consequences of Spalletti's exit. The team is obviously still getting used to this adjustment, imo. Undoubtedly, a coach has a big impact, but it's not the only factor. Though it may not have worked out this time, I think Mazzarri is still learning from his mistakes in resting important players in pivotal games. I have a cautious sense of optimism over the UEFA Champions League. Despite their talent, they will need to play consistently and with great strategy if they want to go past the quarterfinals.

I think in the Champions League Napoli has all the chances to make it to the next round. The only reason I am saying this is because Barcelona has the same issues and are so much worse than they normally play. They did play against each other in the Europa League in 2022 and those two games ended 4-2 and 1-1 for Barcelona. But this time I think Barcelona is even worse. If Napoli plays a good first leg at home, everything is possible.

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December 22, 2023, 12:10:12 PM
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I think in the Champions League Napoli has all the chances to make it to the next round. The only reason I am saying this is because Barcelona has the same issues and are so much worse than they normally play. They did play against each other in the Europa League in 2022 and those two games ended 4-2 and 1-1 for Barcelona. But this time I think Barcelona is even worse. If Napoli plays a good first leg at home, everything is possible.
Napoli were strong in the last season but they no longer maintain it in this season. They have enough good players to compete fairly and equally with Barcelona but chances for Napoli is not too big. It is just like 50/50 chance for them to beat Barcelona at the end in an aggregated result.

If attacking players of Napoli like Kravatskhelia, Osimhen have excellent matches or just some magnificent moments, they can win over Barcelona. Generally they don't usually have such good performances in this season so suddenly have such in two important matches will be big surprise from Napoli.

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December 22, 2023, 12:25:46 PM
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It seems like Milan won't be able to get closer to Inter and Juventus by the games on this week. Because while they have a really comfortable game to play ahead the situation is the same for Inter and Juventus as well. They also have comfortable games to play so I expect all of these three teams to win their games without problem.

Juventus stumbled upon the Genoa game last week maybe but I don't think they will repeat this mistake. This is just bad for them as Inter are opening the gap whenever Juventus make point losses easily. I expect a more convincing performance in the attacking line from Juventus this time.

Since Milan played inconsistent then Milan is no longer in the calculation as a competitor for Juventus and Inter to win the Italian League, Milan can only compete in the Champions League zone together with Bologna, Napoli and several other teams but of course for the Champions League, Milan is in a safe position. I think we all agree that the race is currently only for Juventus and Inter and for a while Inter is closer it's just that Juventus have to wait for Inter busy in the Champions League schedule and take the opportunity there.

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December 22, 2023, 12:27:44 PM
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There is a possibility that Napoli will enter the fourth position in the Italy Serie A table if they can get a draw match from Roma because Bologna's match against Atalanta will be a tough one, and it can end in a draw match or Atalanta wins against Bologna. Napoli can challenge for the Serie A title if they are with Osimhen till the end of the season.

That's right, in Week 17 they can go to 4th place if they can win against Roma. provided that Bologna loses to its opponent. but will they be able to beat Roma? Even though Roma is also in trouble, Roma could be superior in this match. However, we are not just talking about this week's matches, but at the end of the season. Seeing that Napoli position is not that good, many are worried that Napoli will fail to reach the top 4. That's why I say the 2nd mid season and during the winter transfer window is an important opportunity for Napoli to improve their squad.

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December 22, 2023, 12:37:59 PM
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There is no longer any need to include Napoli as a challenger for champions this season because they have failed and will not be able to defend last season's title, and we often see teams that become champions other than Juventus, AC Milan or Inter Milan will always experience difficulties in defending the title and usually will it takes a long time to become champions again, maybe there is a mismanagement with teams like that so they can only occasionally win and make the fans happy because they can see other teams besides the three I mentioned above can become champions but then these three teams will again take turns becoming Serie A champions.
Napoli against Roma has a big chance of winning, especially in their last seven meetings. Roma always failed to get full points even though they are the home team, maybe H2H is not the right reference for analyzing the match later, but of the two teams, Napoli is better when facing tight matches. only they are often careless when facing weak teams which makes them far behind Inter and Juventus.
Napoli are out of the title race and are seriously fighting to get an European spot next season. One worrisome thing is when some teams win the league title he way it takes them a while to win is something that should be studied. Because you fought so hard for this, you get it and you should learn to maintain that energy and keep getting the wins instead of slipping off when a new season starts.

 For the match against Roma, yes Napoli are favorites both on record and on current form and I see them getting all 3 points in this match, but I don't think it would come easy cause José Mourinho's side would be very defensive, giving Napoli a tough time to steal the 3points, I think this match is going to be very interesting, can't wait to see Osimhen's performance against Roma.

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