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Today at 04:08:29 PM
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I also hope that there can be several teams that become strong next season in Serie A and also including teams like Napoli and others because with several new coaches filling the big teams in Serie A, of course it will make Serie A more interesting to watch because the competition could be even fiercer than last season. In addition, I also hope that the teams that were previously slumped in Serie A can rise better like AS Roma and also Napoli who will be trained well by Conte next season.

Even though some top teams have new coaches, basically the new coaches in question are good coaches who certainly have the ability and qualities to build and/or improve the quality and performance of the team to be even better. Milan with Paulo Fonseca, Juventus with Thiago Motta and Napoli with Conte. Indeed, it can be said that Conte is a coach who has had better success in winning trophies than the two coaches mentioned.

But despite this, the reality is that Thiago Motta also had very impressive results last season. Because Thiago Motta succeeded in making Bologna, which was basically just a mediocre team,  but Thiago Motta succeeded in making Bologna compete strongly in the top four last season. Apart from that,  we also have AS Roma who were also quite impressive last season with De Rossi and to start next season, in fact AS Roma have also made good player purchases too. Thus, the Serie A competition next season is very likely to become more competitive, because of the improvement in the quality of the Serie A teams that has occurred.


Today Thiago Motta said after a match against Atletico that he is convinced of the quality & performance of squad and they were improving constantly

Actually, I am very hopeful about Juventus this season. I think finally they will be able to overcome the problems that they had and will be able to start performing well, and consistently. Now I don’t think that success is going to come instantly, they will have to work really hard. I mean finishing in the top 4 positions is already going to be very hard for them. And if Thiago Motta actually wants to compete for the title, that is going to be extra hard. Yes at the start of the season, you can't expect they are not going to bring in consistent results. Because we have to remember that they are going to play under a new coach. And it will take time for them to actually get used to with the new tactics of Thiago Motta. So I will say I am hopeful and I am expecting them to bring in consistent results after a few matches.

Source: https://www.juventus.com/en/news/articles/atletico-madrid-juventus-thiago-motta-s-thoughts

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Today at 04:10:59 PM
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As it is we can't rely on Juventus as a team that will do better next season, losing to Atletico Madrid 0-2 is like they are showing that they will continue from where they stopped last season which is not good to me. When they are ready to play good football they'll put their all but becoming a mess is what we see more, no improvement or whatsoever. How can they make it happen next season? Can the Old Ladies step up their gear and surprise the other clubs like they can become Champions again? With the set of players they have I was expecting at least to get something in that encounter but they could not convert any chance and it will continue next season.
Juventus pre season tour is dissapointing especially when they beated by Nürnberg 3-0 which this team is from Bundesliga 2 although at that time Juventus was playing with some of their reserved players but lost with that score is really not acceptable and their poor result is continue today after lost from Atletico Madrid and these results is makes Thiago Motta have to working more hard to improved Juventus performance because Serie A will be started this weekend and Juventus has match against promotion team Como

I will analyzed the causes why Juventus has showing poor performance during pre season tour because Thiago Motta did making extreme changes in this team with sell 8 key players this summer so this makes Juventus player is required more time to adapt and about Juventus chances for the title i think we still cannot decided yet and we should be see their performance for next 15 matches in Serie A and if Juventus can gets positive progress from those matches then probably they can compete with Inter Milan for race title

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Today at 04:23:17 PM
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In the last few matches for this pre-season, Inter Milan has performed less than satisfactorily after several early matches they were able to win and play very well.
For some reason, there was significant decline and this made some people wonder because Inter Milan itself was one of the most consistent team from Serie-A last season and they were always able to perform optimally.
Failure against Chelsea was disappointing result because Chelsea itself is team that can be said to be quite weak and their performance is still below the word perfect, this is really very unfortunate.
I think many people are disappointed with the results because Inter Milan in this match is the favorite.


Intermilan previously had pre-season matches with consecutive wins, but before the pre-season match was about to end, Intermilan's performance dropped drastically and from the last three pre-season matches they were not able to get a single win, but in my opinion this will not change my view on Intermilan for next season,  as the team that won the Scudetto last season of course Intermilan has a big chance of being able to defend the title, especially now that they have made many changes to their squad by throwing away many players who did not contribute last season and bringing in several new players, In my opinion, Inzaghi will definitely be able to make Intermilan repeat their achievements last season in Serie A.

There is good news for Inter Milan fans at the moment, namely that their mainstay striker  has extended his contract after a lot of speculation continues to surround him at the moment, Lautaro Martinez has been an important player for them all this time and they are very lucky to be able to keep him until 2029 later with a salary increase of around 9 million euros per year plus 2 million euros as an additional bonus.



Source: https://twitter.com/Inter/status/1823027283780616664?t=9FdQZxWVaKzRJaQpEpk9mw&s=19

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Today at 04:26:16 PM
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Juventus couldn't beat any team during the friendlies (except their own U23 team  Tongue). From now on I don't see any friendly game, tournament etc. waiting for them. The Serie A starts for them in exactly a week. I'm really curious about what will be changing in Motta era. I won't go harsh on him at the beginning of course. He would need some time to make the team more competitive.

The biggest problem here is that Juventus couldn't apply their plans smoothly in the transfer window. There are some good new signings but that's all. A renovation has been what they needed actually.  Sad

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Today at 05:26:37 PM
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I think it is indeed unfair for Jose Mourinho for 3 seasons Jose Mourinho survived with the players he had and only relied on loan players without being given support from the club to buy the players he wanted while the club demanded the previous coach to be able to perform as well as possible, isn't this not commensurate with what Roma did?
Any great coach will also have difficulty coaching a club if the club itself does not provide support, on the other hand, an ordinary coach is given enough resources, then the coach can build the club as a whole.
But all that I think Mourinho has got justice now with Fenerbahçe, clearly he was not given happiness when coaching the Roma city team but their management wanted something beautiful from Mourinho clearly there was something lacking for both of them, while if you look closely Roma under Mourinho's guidance they clearly rose again and again received attention from other clubs, under Mourinho he gave one trophy with players who could be said not to be superstars, so I think he succeeded in Roma but Roma management failed to have him.

Now under De Rossi's guidance I see Roma spending a lot of money to meet De Rossi's needs clearly very different from what was given to Mourinho, but all this we can't blame their management maybe Roma are starting to realize that they are declining so they have to be able to spend money to revive their own club, so I think this is just a boomerang no one can blame Jose Mourinho and Roma are now starting to get better.

Roma probably expected better results from José Mourinho because he is a great coach. That’s why they probably thought if they brought him in, they would probably not have to spend as much money as they would have to with some other coach. But that was the wrong decision. Because José Mourinho is a coach who can bring incredible results if he has the squad that he wants. As he had access to a very restricted fund, he was unable to bring in that good offer a result which they expected.

When Roma brought in De Rossi as a coach, I almost knew that it was not going to work out. Even when he started bringing in good results, I just had a feeling that it was not going to last very long. And that’s exactly what has happened. At the start, he was bringing in pretty good results. But after the “honeymoon period“ was over, he was unable to bring in good results anymore. But it is not fair to judge him after just watching half of the season that he was in charge of the squad. Hopefully, things will change for the better in the next season for him.


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Today at 06:26:54 PM
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Compare results achieved by Mourinho and De Rossi, it's unfair to sack Mourinho and hired De Rossi then end the last season with worse result than with Mourinho in two season ago. In money spent for transfers, it's more unfair between Mourinho and De Rossi.

I really don't know what's happening in Roma recent months and why they decided to take risk and spend too much money for transfers like this. In the last months of past season, there was rumor that they considered to sell their captain player for finance improvement. Now, in this summer, things changed considerably and they did not sell players to get money but actually have net positive transfers with many big transfers.
While I agree that De Rossi started awesome, but he did not finish well. If you check his first 10 games at Roma, you will think that De Rossi was a much better manager at Roma than what Mourinho did, it looked like they were going great and then they started to be even worse, so the return became not that great.

This of course is not something that we should be all expecting De Rossi to do bad or good this season, just wait and see. Mourinho was fine, but Roma basically said if they are going to pay that much for a manager, that manager might as well take them to UCL or at least somewhere decent, and Roma did terribly at the league with Mourinho, yes they won conference and finalist at Europa, but both years sucked at league, which meant not so good for them.

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Today at 06:50:06 PM
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Compare results achieved by Mourinho and De Rossi, it's unfair to sack Mourinho and hired De Rossi then end the last season with worse result than with Mourinho in two season ago. In money spent for transfers, it's more unfair between Mourinho and De Rossi.

I really don't know what's happening in Roma recent months and why they decided to take risk and spend too much money for transfers like this. In the last months of past season, there was rumor that they considered to sell their captain player for finance improvement. Now, in this summer, things changed considerably and they did not sell players to get money but actually have net positive transfers with many big transfers.
While I agree that De Rossi started awesome, but he did not finish well. If you check his first 10 games at Roma, you will think that De Rossi was a much better manager at Roma than what Mourinho did, it looked like they were going great and then they started to be even worse, so the return became not that great.

This of course is not something that we should be all expecting De Rossi to do bad or good this season, just wait and see. Mourinho was fine, but Roma basically said if they are going to pay that much for a manager, that manager might as well take them to UCL or at least somewhere decent, and Roma did terribly at the league with Mourinho, yes they won conference and finalist at Europa, but both years sucked at league, which meant not so good for them.
I see Roma management does not have a big dream in Serie A so their performance is very stagnant. The transition of coaching from Mourinho to De Rossi is not an effort to improve but only a setback that occurred. I really praise Mourinho's performance even though he was only able to provide a title in the league conference but in my opinion the title was really extraordinary for Roma who had not felt any title for a long time. So now Roma is just an ordinary team and will never be able to compete at the top.

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Today at 07:24:52 PM
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Today Thiago Motta said after a match against Atletico that he is convinced of the quality & performance of squad and they were improving constantly

Actually, I am very hopeful about Juventus this season. I think finally they will be able to overcome the problems that they had and will be able to start performing well, and consistently. Now I don’t think that success is going to come instantly, they will have to work really hard. I mean finishing in the top 4 positions is already going to be very hard for them. And if Thiago Motta actually wants to compete for the title, that is going to be extra hard. Yes at the start of the season, you can't expect they are not going to bring in consistent results. Because we have to remember that they are going to play under a new coach. And it will take time for them to actually get used to with the new tactics of Thiago Motta. So I will say I am hopeful and I am expecting them to bring in consistent results after a few matches.

Source: https://www.juventus.com/en/news/articles/atletico-madrid-juventus-thiago-motta-s-thoughts

Maybe I trust Thiago Motta now. because he also managed to change Bologna for the better in just two seasons. Last season, Bologna even managed to get tickets to the UCL thanks to the coach, Thiago Motta. So if Thiago Motta is able to make Bologna experience development then I don't think it will be difficult for Thiago Motta to bring development to Juventus too. But the problem is that nothing is instant. Everything will require a process and the process takes time. So in his first season at Juventus we don't need to have too high hopes. Well, because after all he is still new at Juventus and all the players have to adapt to his coaching style.

And yes, after finishing the pre-season match against Atletico Madrid we saw Juventus lose. But Thiago Motta actually feels confident that Juventus is getting better and better. And the most important thing is that currently Juventus has not finished the player transfer window. there are still several players to be brought in. For example, Juventus is currently targeting Nico Gonzales from Fiorentina.

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Today at 07:33:34 PM
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Today Thiago Motta said after a match against Atletico that he is convinced of the quality & performance of squad and they were improving constantly

Actually, I am very hopeful about Juventus this season. I think finally they will be able to overcome the problems that they had and will be able to start performing well, and consistently. Now I don’t think that success is going to come instantly, they will have to work really hard. I mean finishing in the top 4 positions is already going to be very hard for them. And if Thiago Motta actually wants to compete for the title, that is going to be extra hard. Yes at the start of the season, you can't expect they are not going to bring in consistent results. Because we have to remember that they are going to play under a new coach. And it will take time for them to actually get used to with the new tactics of Thiago Motta. So I will say I am hopeful and I am expecting them to bring in consistent results after a few matches.

Source: https://www.juventus.com/en/news/articles/atletico-madrid-juventus-thiago-motta-s-thoughts

Maybe I trust Thiago Motta now. because he also managed to change Bologna for the better in just two seasons. Last season, Bologna even managed to get tickets to the UCL thanks to the coach, Thiago Motta. So if Thiago Motta is able to make Bologna experience development then I don't think it will be difficult for Thiago Motta to bring development to Juventus too. But the problem is that nothing is instant. Everything will require a process and the process takes time. So in his first season at Juventus we don't need to have too high hopes. Well, because after all he is still new at Juventus and all the players have to adapt to his coaching style.

And yes, after finishing the pre-season match against Atletico Madrid we saw Juventus lose. But Thiago Motta actually feels confident that Juventus is getting better and better. And the most important thing is that currently Juventus has not finished the player transfer window. there are still several players to be brought in. For example, Juventus is currently targeting Nico Gonzales from Fiorentina.

Juventus needs to start the season very well. If they start the league well, it will be motivating for both the coach and the players and it will be easier for them to achieve the success they want. The Italian league is a difficult league and it is very difficult to make a prediction without playing the matches and seeing if the teams are ready. If Motta can take what he achieved last season to a higher level this season, it could be a great opportunity for them.

Other teams are also making additions to their squads and the quality of the league continues to increase. It looks like there will be a tough championship race this year. Since pre-season friendlies are games where the teams do not show their full performance, it can be misleading to make an assessment based on the scores in these games.

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Today at 07:44:01 PM
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Maybe I trust Thiago Motta now. because he also managed to change Bologna for the better in just two seasons. Last season, Bologna even managed to get tickets to the UCL thanks to the coach, Thiago Motta. So if Thiago Motta is able to make Bologna experience development then I don't think it will be difficult for Thiago Motta to bring development to Juventus too. But the problem is that nothing is instant. Everything will require a process and the process takes time. So in his first season at Juventus we don't need to have too high hopes. Well, because after all he is still new at Juventus and all the players have to adapt to his coaching style.

And yes, after finishing the pre-season match against Atletico Madrid we saw Juventus lose. But Thiago Motta actually feels confident that Juventus is getting better and better. And the most important thing is that currently Juventus has not finished the player transfer window. there are still several players to be brought in. For example, Juventus is currently targeting Nico Gonzales from Fiorentina.

Juventus needs to start the season very well. If they start the league well, it will be motivating for both the coach and the players and it will be easier for them to achieve the success they want. The Italian league is a difficult league and it is very difficult to make a prediction without playing the matches and seeing if the teams are ready. If Motta can take what he achieved last season to a higher level this season, it could be a great opportunity for them.

Other teams are also making additions to their squads and the quality of the league continues to increase. It looks like there will be a tough championship race this year. Since pre-season friendlies are games where the teams do not show their full performance, it can be misleading to make an assessment based on the scores in these games.
Indeed, to motivate all the players in the club and also to motivate the coach himself, a club must always get good results when they start the season. And maybe Juventus should also be able to get good results in the first week of this season. And the opponent they will face is COMO. Actually, I see this club as quite an ambitious club. So Juventus should not underestimate him. Because we know COMO is even the fastest in adding new players in the transfer market. But Juventus in terms of quality should be more reliable. But we really won't know which one will be superior if the season hasn't started yet.

All teams added new players in this transfer market. Because everyone also wants to increase their strength and cover their weaknesses. And yes, in pre-season matches, it seems like all the teams haven't shown their true performance. And yes, when the season starts, all teams will start to show their true performance.

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Today at 08:16:22 PM
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Juventus couldn't beat any team during the friendlies (except their own U23 team  Tongue). From now on I don't see any friendly game, tournament etc. waiting for them. The Serie A starts for them in exactly a week. I'm really curious about what will be changing in Motta era. I won't go harsh on him at the beginning of course. He would need some time to make the team more competitive.

The biggest problem here is that Juventus couldn't apply their plans smoothly in the transfer window. There are some good new signings but that's all. A renovation has been what they needed actually.  Sad

Maybe since its friendly they don't want to push things to hard maybe that is the excuse they will give after they have actually failed to win any game they only drew some. Losing does not warrant giving excuses because people will not even listen because if you as a club have actually played well then you should not be looking for a reason to why you lost the game. And of late juventus have lost their confidence and have not be playing well of late because for you not to even win one friendly shows that you are not prepared.  And I don't know how they will play this season league if they are already losing friendly games, it is actually getting worst for juventus.  We are wait for the season to start so that we can see what Motta will come up with, when the season starts the challenges will increase.

Some clubs will always think that it is always about signing if your club is not coordinated then even if you sign in a new player their won't be any difference because the work load will be to much for the good once and it will slow down their performance so at least their target should be how to improve the weaker once so that anyone you are buying to be able to perform well and assist the news once coming.

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