Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A)

[wmaurik]

Why do you say get one point in this match? do you think this is like a normal match? lol
There is no point in a friendly match so win or lose it doesn't matter and Fiorentina club also played quite well at least they tried not to lose against a not so famous club a draw is a good result for them.
The season has not started and there are still many friendly matches so you don't need to count unimportant points, you should first understand about domestic matches with friendly matches before deciding to comment.

Maybe he doesn't know that the matches that are often held now are friendly matches which have absolutely no influence on the win or loss of a team. So this is the importance of checking first before directly commenting on anything because in football there must always be facts that have happened before we reveal them (except predictions) so that people who want to respond to it are not confused by the words points. Even though it is clear that in pre-season matches no one counts points except only about the course of the match.

[Roseline492]

Since Motta joined Juventus he tried to do his best to improve the team while he also needs to make some changes and it's very normal to see Motta doesn't want to keep some players in the team while he currently made it clear that he doesn't need Federico Chiesa for the next season.
Federico Chiesa should think about his next destination and Juvnetos also put this player for sale while there is one more year from his contract.

Well in the case of Motta trying to make sure that he build the club to be more better is a very nice move because Juventus has struggled enough and also I like the way he is going about it because selling some of the players to get new ones is very good because there is no way they would have so many players in the club and they still leave them even when they are not contributing or performing the way they are suppose to perform, however in the case of Federico Chiesa he is a good player and he has contributed a lot on Juventus performance on this season, however since Motta has made it known to that he may not be needing him next season so perhaps he should look out for more better club that would cherish his performance more.

[dzungmobile]

Dovbyk was in great form last season in La Liga. I thought Roma would have to spend around 50 million to add Dovbyk to the squad. But Roma management spent 30.5 million to add Dovbyk to the squad. Roma also spent 25.6 million to add a young winger like Soule to the squad. Central midfielder Enzo Le Fee was bought by Roma for 23 million.

Dovbyk can help Roma to have goals for the team and he is younger than Lukaku, Abraham so he is a long term solution for a striker position in Roma. Other players I don't know but De Rossi is going to build up a younger team for Roma, and trying to increase the squad depth which can help them to have enough good player resources to play throughout a long season. Two latest seasons, Roma performances in late of seasons, were affected a lot by player injuries because they didn't have good squad depth.

Since Motta joined Juventus he tried to do his best to improve the team while he also needs to make some changes and it's very normal to see Motta doesn't want to keep some players in the team while he currently made it clear that he doesn't need Federico Chiesa for the next season.

This decision can be explained easily as after a successful Euro 2020 in 2021 year with Italy, Chiesea got some injuries that affect his body and performances. The poor performances for Italy in Euro 2024 this summer and for Juventus last season, are evidences that Chiesa will almost not be able to get his best body and performances after three latest difficult years.

[Republikcoin.com]

Well in the case of Motta trying to make sure that he build the club to be more better is a very nice move because Juventus has struggled enough and also I like the way he is going about it because selling some of the players to get new ones is very good because there is no way they would have so many players in the club and they still leave them even when they are not contributing or performing the way they are suppose to perform, however in the case of Federico Chiesa he is a good player and he has contributed a lot on Juventus performance on this season, however since Motta has made it known to that he may not be needing him next season so perhaps he should look out for more better club that would cherish his performance more.

I also agree more with the solution that you said for Federico Chiesa’s case, because for every player if he can be in a team that values ​​his performance more he will be more consistent in playing so there will be a good effect that will be received by the team that is hosting him later. Besides that, I also hope that Juventus can have a more attractive appearance and performance next season because remembering last season Juventus was almost able to do it since the beginning of the season even though they had to shrink again towards the end of the season because they were not consistent enough with their own tactics.

[rendravolt]

Since Motta joined Juventus he tried to do his best to improve the team while he also needs to make some changes and it's very normal to see Motta doesn't want to keep some players in the team while he currently made it clear that he doesn't need Federico Chiesa for the next season.
Federico Chiesa should think about his next destination and Juvnetos also put this player for sale while there is one more year from his contract.

I'm sure Thiago Motta has his own assessment to determine the players who are worthy of his plans for next season and that's why he is so detailed in paying attention to every ability of his players at Juventus and doesn't want to put the wrong players in. Maybe Juventus is also very sure that they can recruit Karim Adeyemi in the near future considering that they are so determined to sell Federico Chiesa.

If not, another possibility is that Juventus needs fresh funds before Federico Chiesa leaves for free considering that they are also eyeing Atalanta's attacking midfielder, Teun Koopmeiners, and Juventus has even raised its offer to 55m euros. I think the steps taken by Juventus are quite right because in any case if they have something that the club needs then they have to get it and here Federico Chiesa is unfortunately a victim of the club's policy.



Source: https://www.corrieredellosport.it/news/calcio/calcio-mercato/juventus/2024/08/03-131041192/koopmeiners_la_juve_rilancia_la_nuova_offerta_all_atalanta

[Docnaster]

Since Motta joined Juventus he tried to do his best to improve the team while he also needs to make some changes and it's very normal to see Motta doesn't want to keep some players in the team while he currently made it clear that he doesn't need Federico Chiesa for the next season.
Federico Chiesa should think about his next destination and Juvnetos also put this player for sale while there is one more year from his contract.

When teams fail to get good results the manager takes the blame and not the players and that's why I'm in total support of what Juventus new manager Thiago Motta is currently doing to improve the team's performance ahead of next season. The newly appointed manager of the Turin club have publicly disclosed the number of players in the team before his arrival that aren't in his future project for the club of which Federico Chiesa had to be one of them so it's not a big deal for the Italy international to leave because the manager wants to build his team around players he thinks posseses all it takes to play his style of football. A whole lot have be said already about Chiesa's future and I think it'll be better for him to try get another club as soon as possible.

[Smack That Ace]

throughout the history of Napoli Lukaku and Osimhen I feel very sorry for Lukaku.  Practically you can't train with anyone, in fact as a good professional he is training alone.  This is incredible wickedness, a way to marginalize a person.  They could have made him train with Roma, what would it cost him?

It has been confirmed that AS Roma get Artem Dovbyk and of course, this news was a surprise for me too, because I thought Artem Dovbyk could choose a team that could really promise trophies. After all,  at AS Roma there is also no guarantee for Artem Dovbyk to get the Scudetto or other trophies with AS Roma next season. At least, I am very curious, on what basis or reason Artem Dovbyk chose AS Roma to play next season, because I am sure there were other factors that made Artem Dovbyk choose AS Roma.

After all, Artem Dovbyk is the player who managed to become the top scorer last season in La Liga and as such, it should be easy for Artem Dovbyk to leave for another elite team. Because after all, AS Roma will only play in the Europa League next season, while if Artem Dovbyk stays at Girona he will also actually play in the Champions League next season. Thus, I really didn't expect Artem Dovbyk to actually choose AS Roma.

Artem Dovbyk's transfer to Roma is really a wonder. He probably chose this path to have a great stadium to play at - in front of a great fanbase and not to be in the constant competitive loop? because this is the first thing that comes to my mind when I see him in a Roma shirt, after such a breakthrough season with Girona.

But in all honesty, Roma is a great club to play for. Their fans are amazing, they compete well in European competitions, and Roma right now have a very exciting project ahead of them. They might cook.

Regards

Duke

[mamesso]

Artem Dovbyk's transfer to Roma is really a wonder. He probably chose this path to have a great stadium to play at - in front of a great fanbase and not to be in the constant competitive loop? because this is the first thing that comes to my mind when I see him in a Roma shirt, after such a breakthrough season with Girona.

But in all honesty, Roma is a great club to play for. Their fans are amazing, they compete well in European competitions, and Roma right now have a very exciting project ahead of them. They might cook.

Regards

Duke

Artem Dovbyk decision was clearly very surprising, for some reason he chose Roma even though Atletico was also very interested in bringing him in. He could get a chance to play in the Champions League if he chooses to join Atletico, but if the reason is as you assume, it clearly doesn't make sense, besides Roma also didn't play in the UCL this season. His arrival at Roma is clearly very beneficial for De Rossi, he will have new ammunition that is very productive and will be a very suitable replacement for Lukaku. Perhaps one of the reasons he chose Roma was because of the very interesting project that was being built with De Rossi, he chose Roma's offer because he thought there would be a bright future with Roma after performing well last season.

[tusandii]

Since Motta joined Juventus he tried to do his best to improve the team while he also needs to make some changes and it's very normal to see Motta doesn't want to keep some players in the team while he currently made it clear that he doesn't need Federico Chiesa for the next season.
Federico Chiesa should think about his next destination and Juvnetos also put this player for sale while there is one more year from his contract.

In my opinion this is not only the desire of Motta who wants to sell Chiesa but if you remember again Juventus always regenerates to improve the club's performance and improve the club's finances which are currently a little bad.
Even Juve's management does not hesitate to dare to sell its flagship players as long as there are other clubs offer a big offer, it will definitely be approved and the flagship player will be sold like Chiesa who will have the same fate.

Not that Motta assesses that Chiesa does not have a good performance or no need for these players, but indeed this is all done for the good of the club in the future.
But the media only exaggerated this news and only accused Motta who did not need the player while the coach actually still wanted Chiesa to survive.

[Jody.Drummer]

Well in the case of Motta trying to make sure that he build the club to be more better is a very nice move because Juventus has struggled enough and also I like the way he is going about it because selling some of the players to get new ones is very good because there is no way they would have so many players in the club and they still leave them even when they are not contributing or performing the way they are suppose to perform, however in the case of Federico Chiesa he is a good player and he has contributed a lot on Juventus performance on this season, however since Motta has made it known to that he may not be needing him next season so perhaps he should look out for more better club that would cherish his performance more.

I also agree more with the solution that you said for Federico Chiesa’s case, because for every player if he can be in a team that values ​​his performance more he will be more consistent in playing so there will be a good effect that will be received by the team that is hosting him later. Besides that, I also hope that Juventus can have a more attractive appearance and performance next season because remembering last season Juventus was almost able to do it since the beginning of the season even though they had to shrink again towards the end of the season because they were not consistent enough with their own tactics.

The coach has the criteria for players that will be used to implement the strategy he will use next season. Even though the player played well in the previous season and after the arrival of a new coach he was no longer needed in the squad, there wasn't much to do. The reason is when the club wants to maintain the player but the coach says it does not need it then it is not good for the player himself, because it is very likely that he will be on the bench and the best step is to find a club that really wants it. We also cannot blame anyone here, unless there is an internal problem between the coach and the player, surely we will find out what the source of the problem is.

Juventus are a strong club, they have dominated the league some time ago, but the problem for the sake of their problems faced so that they explored them down. But this is a good development, we can see it last season when they played well at the beginning of the season, but unfortunately they were inconsistent.

[slapper]

Second game of the preseason for Motta this evening.
He has not called for the game Chiesa and Djalo.
These are clear calls of what he wants to do with these 2 players during this season.

The player are now on the market and they will try to sell them before the end of the month.

Seriously i don’t just get it what Thiago Motta is after, he is building a Juventus team which had been in the mud or not been their selfs for the pasts three seasons now and Clearly he needs not just any players but the ones that are ready to stay committed and are experienced and clearly in Italian football today Federico Chiesa is just one of them, I don’t under why he doesn’t want the player and even at worst why he is not giving the player to redeem himself or rather play so that he can get suitors, except there is something internal maybe a issue between the player and the coach this treatment is bad seriously

Since Motta joined Juventus he tried to do his best to improve the team while he also needs to make some changes and it's very normal to see Motta doesn't want to keep some players in the team while he currently made it clear that he doesn't need Federico Chiesa for the next season.
Federico Chiesa should think about his next destination and Juvnetos also put this player for sale while there is one more year from his contract.

Chiesa? It's not just about the money, it's about Juventus losing their damn minds. Chiesa is a great player who has always helped the team. You don't sell a player like that unless you have to, and Juventus may be putting their money problems ahead of football sense. I know Motta has a hard job. But letting Chiesa go just to keep the books in order is a bad sign. It says that prizes are not important to Juventus. It says they don't mind being average as long as they're making money

Juve will look like complete fools if Chiesa ends up somewhere else and rips it up. This is more than just a move; it's a test of how ambitious Juventus is. And they are failing horribly right now

[Blitzboy]

Second game of the preseason for Motta this evening.
He has not called for the game Chiesa and Djalo.
These are clear calls of what he wants to do with these 2 players during this season.

The player are now on the market and they will try to sell them before the end of the month.

Seriously i don’t just get it what Thiago Motta is after, he is building a Juventus team which had been in the mud or not been their selfs for the pasts three seasons now and Clearly he needs not just any players but the ones that are ready to stay committed and are experienced and clearly in Italian football today Federico Chiesa is just one of them, I don’t under why he doesn’t want the player and even at worst why he is not giving the player to redeem himself or rather play so that he can get suitors, except there is something internal maybe a issue between the player and the coach this treatment is bad seriously

Since Motta joined Juventus he tried to do his best to improve the team while he also needs to make some changes and it's very normal to see Motta doesn't want to keep some players in the team while he currently made it clear that he doesn't need Federico Chiesa for the next season.
Federico Chiesa should think about his next destination and Juvnetos also put this player for sale while there is one more year from his contract.

Chiesa's leaving Juventus is a major event. A star player leaving is difficult, hence this could be the greatest thing for him. Motta sees Juve, and maybe Chiesa doesnt fit that precisely right now. That does not imply, however, he lacks world-class ability. Simply said, he finds a better fit elsewhere.

Chiesa has an opportunity to travel somewhere he will be the primary man, the top dog. somewhere he can truly shine and provide the world with his capacity.

Consider it this way: Juventus is upsetting things by making some major moves. Chiesa's moment to fold is here, but believe me; he will emerge triumphant. He is a winner; winners always find their path.

Indeed, it is a transition, but it does not mark the end of the earth. For Federico Chiesa, this marks the beginning of a new chapter; for me, it excites to see what he accomplishes next.

[Frankolala]

Second game of the preseason for Motta this evening.
He has not called for the game Chiesa and Djalo.
These are clear calls of what he wants to do with these 2 players during this season.

The player are now on the market and they will try to sell them before the end of the month.

Seriously i don’t just get it what Thiago Motta is after, he is building a Juventus team which had been in the mud or not been their selfs for the pasts three seasons now and Clearly he needs not just any players but the ones that are ready to stay committed and are experienced and clearly in Italian football today Federico Chiesa is just one of them, I don’t under why he doesn’t want the player and even at worst why he is not giving the player to redeem himself or rather play so that he can get suitors, except there is something internal maybe a issue between the player and the coach this treatment is bad seriously

Since Motta joined Juventus he tried to do his best to improve the team while he also needs to make some changes and it's very normal to see Motta doesn't want to keep some players in the team while he currently made it clear that he doesn't need Federico Chiesa for the next season.
Federico Chiesa should think about his next destination and Juvnetos also put this player for sale while there is one more year from his contract.

Chiesa? It's not just about the money, it's about Juventus losing their damn minds. Chiesa is a great player who has always helped the team. You don't sell a player like that unless you have to, and Juventus may be putting their money problems ahead of football sense. I know Motta has a hard job. But letting Chiesa go just to keep the books in order is a bad sign. It says that prizes are not important to Juventus. It says they don't mind being average as long as they're making money

Juve will look like complete fools if Chiesa ends up somewhere else and rips it up. This is more than just a move; it's a test of how ambitious Juventus is. And they are failing horribly right now

I don't know if it is a personal problem or not between Motta and Chiesa but I doubt if there is any, why will Motta make such decision on Chiesa who is a good player and has a relevant role in the club or is he no longer fit to play in Juventus again.

It seems that Juventus will only be dreaming of winning scudetto because I don't see them making such preparations to win it soon, after Ronaldo left the club their hope of winning the league is decreasing.

[hahay]

Artem Dovbyk's transfer to Roma is really a wonder. He probably chose this path to have a great stadium to play at - in front of a great fanbase and not to be in the constant competitive loop? because this is the first thing that comes to my mind when I see him in a Roma shirt, after such a breakthrough season with Girona.

But in all honesty, Roma is a great club to play for. Their fans are amazing, they compete well in European competitions, and Roma right now have a very exciting project ahead of them. They might cook.

Regards

Duke

Artem Dovbyk decision was clearly very surprising, for some reason he chose Roma even though Atletico was also very interested in bringing him in. He could get a chance to play in the Champions League if he chooses to join Atletico, but if the reason is as you assume, it clearly doesn't make sense, besides Roma also didn't play in the UCL this season. His arrival at Roma is clearly very beneficial for De Rossi, he will have new ammunition that is very productive and will be a very suitable replacement for Lukaku. Perhaps one of the reasons he chose Roma was because of the very interesting project that was being built with De Rossi, he chose Roma's offer because he thought there would be a bright future with Roma after performing well last season.

What project do you mean?
Because to be honest, I personally don't know the reason why Artem Dovbyk chose to play with AS Roma next season because after all, if for example Artem Dovbyk had stayed at Girona also the reality is that Girona will play in the Champions League next season. But strangely, Artem Dovbyk chose AS Roma for his new club for next season and even then, AS Roma are only playing for the Europa League next season, unlike Girona who will be playing in the Champions League.

After all, I also think Girona is still in the development stage to be better because after all, Girona is also included in the City Football Group which is likely to be strong in the future. Therefore, I think if Artem Dovbyk stays at Girona it's also the good choice, because at least Girona have a big project with the City football Group for long term but for AS Roma? I wonder what project you mean. Because I also very curious, what reasons made Artem Dovbyk choose AS Roma, because basically Artem Dovbyk can play for other elite teams that have a guarantee of getting trophies.

[Rampagoe004]

Dovbyk was in great form last season in La Liga. I thought Roma would have to spend around 50 million to add Dovbyk to the squad. But Roma management spent 30.5 million to add Dovbyk to the squad. Roma also spent 25.6 million to add a young winger like Soule to the squad. Central midfielder Enzo Le Fee was bought by Roma for 23 million.

Roma's management's ability to get Dovbyk for around 30 million euros in my opinion is a success in their transfer. Dovbyk is a phenomenal striker in La Liga. I even think Girona will not let him go because Dovbyk is a player who managed to make Girona finish in third place last season. Although it is very unfortunate that Dovbyk cannot play in the Champions League because AS Roma will play in the Europa League next season. But I am optimistic that AS Roma will be able to perform better this season either in Serie A or the Europa League.

[Palakka]

Dovbyk was in great form last season in La Liga. I thought Roma would have to spend around 50 million to add Dovbyk to the squad. But Roma management spent 30.5 million to add Dovbyk to the squad. Roma also spent 25.6 million to add a young winger like Soule to the squad. Central midfielder Enzo Le Fee was bought by Roma for 23 million.

Roma's management's ability to get Dovbyk for around 30 million euros in my opinion is a success in their transfer. Dovbyk is a phenomenal striker in La Liga. I even think Girona will not let him go because Dovbyk is a player who managed to make Girona finish in third place last season. Although it is very unfortunate that Dovbyk cannot play in the Champions League because AS Roma will play in the Europa League next season. But I am optimistic that AS Roma will be able to perform better this season either in Serie A or the Europa League.

De Rossi has a very big burden next season after he failed to fulfill Roma ambition to qualify for the Champions League last season, De Rossi has realized that his squad last season will not be able to compete with rival teams who have currently improved their squad, so as to be able to remain in in the Scudetto competition next season, like it or not, Roma also have to upgrade their team to be even better next season by bringing in quality new players, Roma throughout this summer transfer market have recruited 6 new players, including one young player, so this shows if De Rossi is really targeting the championship trophy next season.

 Artem Dovbyk and Matias Soule is the perfect recruitment from Roma at this time if you look at the performance of these two players last season, but after bringing in several new players now, it is reported that Roma is still eyeing several other players to recruit at this time, BTW apart from Como, Roma is The team that is most active in recruiting players in the transfer market and in fact they are a Serie A team which is currently spending almost 100 million euros to recruit new players.

[Iranus]

What Juventus needs is a big renovation in the squad. At least in some specific areas starting with midfield. How much have they done so far? Not too much honestly.    Douglas Luiz and Khéphren Thuram are good transfers. Hopefully Juan Cabal can also be helpful. Di Gregorio is another signing to take the gloves from Szczęsny probably. But there are still players they aim to sell on one hand.

There is a big problem on the Chiesa situation indeed. There is still no team making an offer as far as I know. Tottenham is said to be interested but no action taken. If he stays this summer they will probably won't make any money from his sale as his contract ends in a year.

Even Pogba is still a part of the team, I mean... 

All I can say is that the Juventus squad is definitely not balanced at all. To make the squad perform better, there are certain changes that need to be made. But I wonder does Juventus actually have that level of money? With the increase of the value of players so much, any club right now needs to spend almost double the money that they would have spent before 2020. So there was a time when if you had 200 million to spend, it was a lot. You could make a squad like Manchester City with that level of money. But now a single player who has some kind of talent is going to cost more than 100 million easily. And with all the problems that Juventus did face recently, I think they do not have that kind of money, to be honest. That’s why they have to take every decision carefully.

Oh and Is there any new news about Pogba? Or will he have to serve the full ban?

[indah rezqi]

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I also agree more with the solution that you said for Federico Chiesa’s case, because for every player if he can be in a team that values ​​his performance more he will be more consistent in playing so there will be a good effect that will be received by the team that is hosting him later. Besides that, I also hope that Juventus can have a more attractive appearance and performance next season because remembering last season Juventus was almost able to do it since the beginning of the season even though they had to shrink again towards the end of the season because they were not consistent enough with their own tactics.

The coach has the criteria for players that will be used to implement the strategy he will use next season. Even though the player played well in the previous season and after the arrival of a new coach he was no longer needed in the squad, there wasn't much to do. The reason is when the club wants to maintain the player but the coach says it does not need it then it is not good for the player himself, because it is very likely that he will be on the bench and the best step is to find a club that really wants it. We also cannot blame anyone here, unless there is an internal problem between the coach and the player, surely we will find out what the source of the problem is.

Juventus are a strong club, they have dominated the league some time ago, but the problem for the sake of their problems faced so that they explored them down. But this is a good development, we can see it last season when they played well at the beginning of the season, but unfortunately they were inconsistent.

Thiago Motta seems to want to completely overhaul Juventus, both in terms of squad depth and game philosophy, so one way is to release several players. Federico Chiesa is considered to have contributed less, his performance has not met expectations, and perhaps in many ways he does not fit the strategy that will be implemented by Thiago Motta. Meanwhile, Juventus certainly does not want to lose Federico Chiesa for free, therefore they pushed him away this summer. I think Federico Chiesa injury history also greatly affects his performance.

So far there are several clubs that have been linked with a move for Federico Chiesa, including Bayern Munchen, Chelsea, Napoli and Roma, but no official offers have been made. Previously the most common rumor we heard was Dusan Vlahovic departure from Juventus, but after Thiago Motta became Allegri successor, it seems that Dusan Vlahovic will be the mainstay in the front line. Juventus have lowered Federico Chiesa price, and hope they can more easily complete the transfer before the new season starts. Actually, moving to the Premier League is a better solution, but Federico Chiesa must choose the right club.

[coinlocket$]

second match yesterday for Thiago Motta's Juventus and nothing stratospheric was seen, on the contrary.

During the whole match, even if played with many secondary players, it was not possible to see the coach's new idea.
with only 2 weeks to go before the start of the season and with 1/3 of the team still to go, it will be a real miracle to start competitively for the final victory.

Many players are leaving, a list of at least 5 players.
Many other players are waiting for these releases to be able to arrive in Turin.
At least 14 market operations between entries and exits are expected but not confirmed in the next 3 following weeks.

[Lillominato89]

second match yesterday for Thiago Motta's Juventus and nothing stratospheric was seen, on the contrary.

During the whole match, even if played with many secondary players, it was not possible to see the coach's new idea.
with only 2 weeks to go before the start of the season and with 1/3 of the team still to go, it will be a real miracle to start competitively for the final victory.

Many players are leaving, a list of at least 5 players.
Many other players are waiting for these releases to be able to arrive in Turin.
At least 14 market operations between entries and exits are expected but not confirmed in the next 3 following weeks.

Friendlies are always matches to be given little importance, they only serve to inform the players, obviously it is not nice to see a team created to win make bad figures in preseason matches. The friendlies that will give more insights and information are the ones that will be played just before the start of the championship, there we could see if the new coach is doing a good job or not. However, I have read that they have put Federico Chiesa off the roster, but I didn't quite understand why. Strange that they want to sell their best player.