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May 05, 2021, 10:07:30 PM
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I personally do not believe Mou can lead AS Roma to the top of the Serie A standings next season or it will be a mess like the previously coached teams which ended in dismissal. Even so, hopefully the choice made by AS Roma to bring in Mou is the right choice considering the competition in Serie A is getting tougher and many other teams who are also all strong teams in Serie A, this will be a more competitive competition.
I agree with you, when Mou still has the tendency to build a club instantly like at Chelsea, MU, Madrid, then being coach of Roma will not be much different from when he was coach of Tottenham before. Roma are also classified as a mid club, which have never bought or sold players at fantastic prices. So, Mou's challenge to become Roma coach is to ensure that he can increase the potential of existing players and increase the solidity of the game. because to buy an expensive player, it looks like Roma will not be easily realized.

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May 06, 2021, 02:00:20 AM
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Now AS Roma will have to be prepared to spend a lot of money on the squad.
Despite having the advantage that because of Covid-19, the price of the players has dropped.

But it is good to make purchases before Euro 2021, because after that, the value of some players may go up.
I don't think AS Roma director board will readily to spend much bigger transfer fund for the club just because they sign a contract with Mourinho. They might have some new contracts and transfer fund might increase a little but not too bigger than in recent seasons.

I personally do not believe Mou can lead AS Roma to the top of the Serie A standings next season or it will be a mess like the previously coached teams which ended in dismissal. Even so, hopefully the choice made by AS Roma to bring in Mou is the right choice considering the competition in Serie A is getting tougher and many other teams who are also all strong teams in Serie A, this will be a more competitive competition.
Mourinho have great skills and I think his core tactic is matched with the traditional Catenaccio tactic in Serie A. The big problem for Mourinho is his past bad relation with media in Italy.

You are right that the competition in Serie A is very tight with the come back from two Milan teams in past 2 seasons. AS Roma have to fight against four or five clubs: Atalanta, Napoli, Lazio and Juventus.

I agree with you, when Mou still has the tendency to build a club instantly like at Chelsea, MU, Madrid, then being coach of Roma will not be much different from when he was coach of Tottenham before. Roma are also classified as a mid club, which have never bought or sold players at fantastic prices. So, Mou's challenge to become Roma coach is to ensure that he can increase the potential of existing players and increase the solidity of the game. because to buy an expensive player, it looks like Roma will not be easily realized.
He can do it better. In Spurs, in his first press conference as a coach, he was very friendly and things were smooth for him and Spurs in first half of season. In Spurs, there are some great stars but in Roma, there are not great starts. Mourinho can build up a team like he did with FC Porto in early of his career.

AS Roma appoints Jose Mourinho as their new manager next season.
Manager and coach are different. In modern football, what we usually see are coaches, not managers. In history, there are very few managers: Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger are managers.

Recent decades, coaches don't have decisions on player transfers because clubs nowadays have Sport directors. Managers have rights for tactics and transfers of clubs they are working for.

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May 06, 2021, 05:10:12 AM
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Antonio Conte become the first coach success broken dominance Juventus to get trophy every years more than seven time, now the era for Inter Milan get scudetto, but right now most interested with second, third and fourth position who will be success get this place. After AC Milan dominance broken they difficult with left match can be consistent and get ticket for champion league or not.
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May 06, 2021, 04:44:04 PM
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I agree with you, when Mou still has the tendency to build a club instantly like at Chelsea, MU, Madrid, then being coach of Roma will not be much different from when he was coach of Tottenham before. Roma are also classified as a mid club, which have never bought or sold players at fantastic prices. So, Mou's challenge to become Roma coach is to ensure that he can increase the potential of existing players and increase the solidity of the game. because to buy an expensive player, it looks like Roma will not be easily realized.
What if Mou reputation is so bad that only his presence will negatively affect the mood of the players in the team? Nevertheless, they see what happens to the clubs where Mou becomes a coach, everything ends the same way. These are almost always conflicts within the team and, as a result, the team's play is bad, perhaps even a drain of matches with a desire to get rid of the coach.

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May 06, 2021, 05:53:44 PM
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Antonio Conte become the first coach success broken dominance Juventus to get trophy every years more than seven time, now the era for Inter Milan get scudetto, but right now most interested with second, third and fourth position who will be success get this place. After AC Milan dominance broken they difficult with left match can be consistent and get ticket for champion league or not.
I totally agree with your opinion, Antonio Conte managed to bring Inter Milan to their first trophy, under a new coach, conte,
Hopefully Inter can play better, and can defend the title, AC Milan at the start of the season played very well, but unfortunately at the end of the season Milan played inconsistently, and wasted many important points ..
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May 06, 2021, 06:11:57 PM
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I agree with you, when Mou still has the tendency to build a club instantly like at Chelsea, MU, Madrid, then being coach of Roma will not be much different from when he was coach of Tottenham before. Roma are also classified as a mid club, which have never bought or sold players at fantastic prices. So, Mou's challenge to become Roma coach is to ensure that he can increase the potential of existing players and increase the solidity of the game. because to buy an expensive player, it looks like Roma will not be easily realized.
What if Mou reputation is so bad that only his presence will negatively affect the mood of the players in the team? Nevertheless, they see what happens to the clubs where Mou becomes a coach, everything ends the same way. These are almost always conflicts within the team and, as a result, the team's play is bad, perhaps even a drain of matches with a desire to get rid of the coach.
I think Mourinho can change his attitude so that he can adapt to some of the players at Roma so that no conflict was wanted in the past, I know Roma won't be spending that much money on players but somehow he has to be able to raise players to be better. nothing bad happens after being in Rome.
Many of the challenges Mourinho will face they will not spend as much as desired and make Roma a better place after many failures with other European clubs.

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May 06, 2021, 08:18:00 PM
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Antonio Conte become the first coach success broken dominance Juventus to get trophy every years more than seven time, now the era for Inter Milan get scudetto, but right now most interested with second, third and fourth position who will be success get this place. After AC Milan dominance broken they difficult with left match can be consistent and get ticket for champion league or not.

I wouldn't rule out Juve coming right back next season. Inter looked like they were losing steam and I keep saying you can't expect to play like they do all the time (current form not early season form) and expect to keep winning. Them KO'd out of Europe proves this for sure.

Most interesting for me to see now is if Ronaldo and Juve can actually appear in next UCL.

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May 06, 2021, 08:43:52 PM
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What if Mou reputation is so bad that only his presence will negatively affect the mood of the players in the team? Nevertheless, they see what happens to the clubs where Mou becomes a coach, everything ends the same way. These are almost always conflicts within the team and, as a result, the team's play is bad, perhaps even a drain of matches with a desire to get rid of the coach.

It was true, almost all the clubs that Mou had been handling lately ended up with something bad. And it is possible that this will also happen to Roma. However, with Mou's return to Serie A, there are at least two teams filled by coaches with a history of winning, Conte and Mou. Now, I'm just thinking if we see Allegri return to Serie A next season, maybe the league will be even more interesting.

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May 06, 2021, 08:47:45 PM
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Antonio Conte become the first coach success broken dominance Juventus to get trophy every years more than seven time, now the era for Inter Milan get scudetto, but right now most interested with second, third and fourth position who will be success get this place. After AC Milan dominance broken they difficult with left match can be consistent and get ticket for champion league or not.

I wouldn't rule out Juve coming right back next season. Inter looked like they were losing steam and I keep saying you can't expect to play like they do all the time (current form not early season form) and expect to keep winning. Them KO'd out of Europe proves this for sure.

Most interesting for me to see now is if Ronaldo and Juve can actually appear in next UCL.

Well Pirlo is still young as a coach and dosent have that experience like i have been saying.The league is on another level now and has higher quality footbal right now then previous year.Pirlo has an amazing team.But that team getting old he tried to put younger players and that costed him the entire season

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May 07, 2021, 01:53:24 AM
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It was true, almost all the clubs that Mou had been handling lately ended up with something bad. And it is possible that this will also happen to Roma. However, with Mou's return to Serie A, there are at least two teams filled by coaches with a history of winning, Conte and Mou. Now, I'm just thinking if we see Allegri return to Serie A next season, maybe the league will be even more interesting.
This contract with Roma will be one of very last chances for Mourinho to prove that he is still able to make good managements for clubs he works for. Personally, Mourinho does his works not too bad with tactics and results but he does not control relationships with his players behind the scene.

Problems come from his conflict with players and become conflict with director boards of clubs. Nowadays, in football, clubs spend huge salary funds for players and they need star players to sign good contracts for advertisements, sponsorships, partnerships. If director boards have to make choice between coaches and players, they usually choose players.

If Mourinho can avoid conflicts with players, he will get success.

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May 07, 2021, 07:06:43 AM
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given the latest things that have happened to Rome, I give a negative outlook in terms of morale

morale will be very low, due to a change of coach, very hard defeats and commitments that they are unable to complete

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May 07, 2021, 07:21:08 AM
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given the latest things that have happened to Rome, I give a negative outlook in terms of morale

morale will be very low, due to a change of coach, very hard defeats and commitments that they are unable to complete

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I do not think Roma's problem is about morale; they have quality issues; their players will of course perform if they face teams with lesser qualities; and this was why they were performing better against mufc after the full backs substitution. Jose comes with his nitty gritty methods; should be a good time for Roma next season.

This weekend they face relegated crotone fc; Can they get 3 points to bolster their shouts for europa league football next season ?
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May 07, 2021, 07:23:06 AM
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agree with you man
AS Roma have quality issue (i mean team, like you)

now they have another problem: morale

quality issue + low morale = bad games

of course is my opinion, ... i can give wrong opinion (example i think Milan win championship.. and not Inter)

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May 07, 2021, 09:38:40 AM
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This contract with Roma will be one of very last chances for Mourinho to prove that he is still able to make good managements for clubs he works for. Personally, Mourinho does his works not too bad with tactics and results but he does not control relationships with his players behind the scene.

Problems come from his conflict with players and become conflict with director boards of clubs. Nowadays, in football, clubs spend huge salary funds for players and they need star players to sign good contracts for advertisements, sponsorships, partnerships. If director boards have to make choice between coaches and players, they usually choose players.

If Mourinho can avoid conflicts with players, he will get success.

I don't think Roma will pay him much money. A series of layoffs with early termination of the contract does not make his rating higher. Perhaps that is why Roma became interested, because the new working conditions suited both parties with a relatively small pay. Mourinho has such a character, he has always had conflicts in eminent clubs. And the management will always choose the side of the players, especially now that Mourinho's reputation is so low.

 
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May 07, 2021, 10:16:56 AM
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I don't think Roma will pay him much money. A series of layoffs with early termination of the contract does not make his rating higher. Perhaps that is why Roma became interested, because the new working conditions suited both parties with a relatively small pay. Mourinho has such a character, he has always had conflicts in eminent clubs. And the management will always choose the side of the players, especially now that Mourinho's reputation is so low.

Apparently Tottenham will continue to pay Mourinho.
So it turns out not to be a very high cost for Roma.

https://metro.co.uk/2021/05/04/tottenham-will-still-pay-jose-mourinho-double-what-roma-do-next-season-14521212/

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May 07, 2021, 10:55:59 AM
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Mourinho reputation can be low but he loves when the team and the city is on his side. Like what happened in Milan when he won everything with Inter you'll see he's going to become again a one man show and bring Roma to new heights.
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May 07, 2021, 02:08:49 PM
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Mourinho reputation can be low but he loves when the team and the city is on his side. Like what happened in Milan when he won everything with Inter you'll see he's going to become again a one man show and bring Roma to new heights.
He did well with Spurs at some point this season making them the first but after reaching that point, the team was failing hard. I don't think he should take all the blame BTW. Mourinho will not make Roma the best team the next season with the actual squad imo, he needs some fresh and good players.
Juve - Milan this Sunday and the battle for CL spot is getting intense with Lazio and Napoli getting closer. A draw will complicate things for both of them imo.

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May 07, 2021, 02:22:16 PM
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Apparently Tottenham will continue to pay Mourinho.
So it turns out not to be a very high cost for Roma.
This uncommon for manager AFAIK. For players, however, this situation is pretty common when a high paying player benched and the manager wants to get rid of him.
Anyway, after the 1st year, he won't get from Spurs anymore. So his salary will be 1/3 of Spurs, for two years. That's some serious reduction there.

He's not special anymore. #sadkek

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May 07, 2021, 02:25:16 PM
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Mourinho reputation can be low but he loves when the team and the city is on his side. Like what happened in Milan when he won everything with Inter you'll see he's going to become again a one man show and bring Roma to new heights.
He did well with Spurs at some point this season making them the first but after reaching that point, the team was failing hard. I don't think he should take all the blame BTW. Mourinho will not make Roma the best team the next season with the actual squad imo, he needs some fresh and good players.
Juve - Milan this Sunday and the battle for CL spot is getting intense with Lazio and Napoli getting closer. A draw will complicate things for both of them imo.

Yes, of course Mourinho has the freedom to bring in new players and it will happen when the transfer market opens
I read the news in the media that Mourinho wants to sign new players in midfield but no list of targeted names, maybe next month we'll already hear who to buy

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May 07, 2021, 02:38:26 PM
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Well Pirlo is still young as a coach and dosent have that experience like i have been saying.The league is on another level now and has higher quality footbal right now then previous year.Pirlo has an amazing team.But that team getting old he tried to put younger players and that costed him the entire season

Indeed, when your top scorer and game winner is still one of the oldest while the younger ones didn't meet expectations, you can expect Pirlo is going to shoulder most of the blame. It's a good tactic if you have a good balance, but I think he was a bit too naive to think he could try something so dramatic in a league where everyone else around you have such strong attacking squads.

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