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May 14, 2021, 07:54:05 PM
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I think it is very difficult to say who is wrong at this time, both Ronaldo and Juventus, because as far as I know Juventus dares to buy Ronaldo at a high price because Ronaldo has the experience of having won five times in the competition, but Ronaldo's presence at Juventus has not yet been able to deliver the original club turin won the Champions League title, because as far as I remember, in the last 4 seasons before Ronaldo's arrival, Juventus went to the final twice, once eliminated in the last 16 and once stopped in the quarter-finals.
Meanwhile, when Ronaldo arrived, Juventus had even been unable to get past the quarter-finals for three consecutive seasons and what was unique was that the team that stopped Juventus in the last 16 was a team that in fact was below the quality of Juventus Grin
 So, I want to ask, if Juventus is better with Ronaldo or Juventus without Ronaldo?

Juventus is not Ronaldo, he is just a player, although with a lot of experience and a player of a very high level. But it is not the player who wins the Cups, but the team, so we should ask the coach first of all the question of victories or defeats. To a person who can make the team champions, or not. I have already written about this many times and I will repeat again that Alegre was the best option for Juventus and it was a very big mistake to fire him.

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May 14, 2021, 09:10:49 PM
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I have already written about this many times and I will repeat again that Alegre was the best option for Juventus and it was a very big mistake to fire him.

That's right!!!
They sent away a coach who was doing an excellent job. And they put an "amateur" as the team's coach, expecting Ronaldo to do all the work. Nor did they invest properly in the squad.

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May 14, 2021, 09:56:32 PM
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I have already written about this many times and I will repeat again that Alegre was the best option for Juventus and it was a very big mistake to fire him.

That's right!!!
They sent away a coach who was doing an excellent job. And they put an "amateur" as the team's coach, expecting Ronaldo to do all the work. Nor did they invest properly in the squad.


I hope that Juventus will realize their mistake at the end of this season and will reach an agreement with the right manager for them. If they don't make that change, they can have another season which will give headaches.

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May 14, 2021, 09:59:53 PM
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I think it is very difficult to say who is wrong at this time, both Ronaldo and Juventus, because as far as I know Juventus dares to buy Ronaldo at a high price because Ronaldo has the experience of having won five times in the competition, but Ronaldo's presence at Juventus has not yet been able to deliver the original club turin won the Champions League title, because as far as I remember, in the last 4 seasons before Ronaldo's arrival, Juventus went to the final twice, once eliminated in the last 16 and once stopped in the quarter-finals.
Meanwhile, when Ronaldo arrived, Juventus had even been unable to get past the quarter-finals for three consecutive seasons and what was unique was that the team that stopped Juventus in the last 16 was a team that in fact was below the quality of Juventus Grin
 So, I want to ask, if Juventus is better with Ronaldo or Juventus without Ronaldo?

Juventus is not Ronaldo, he is just a player, although with a lot of experience and a player of a very high level. But it is not the player who wins the Cups, but the team, so we should ask the coach first of all the question of victories or defeats. To a person who can make the team champions, or not. I have already written about this many times and I will repeat again that Alegre was the best option for Juventus and it was a very big mistake to fire him.
No matter how great Ronaldo is, of course he will not be able to do much if there is no team cohesiveness, and like you, I also think that Andrea Pirlo is the beginning of Juventus destruction this season, in my opinion Juventus, who was previously coached by Maurizio Sarri, is quite consistent even though last season only able to finish on 16 champion leagues, even so Juventus was able to win the 2019/20 season sscudetto, but unfortunately Juventus management at that time made a pretty bad decision when sacking Maurizio Sarri and replacing him with Andrea Pirlo, whose coaching experience is still questionable and from several sources that I have read mentioning that Andrea Pirlo at that time had not even completed his coaching course at all, I think that no matter how great a player who plays at Juventus today will not be able to make Juventus champion if trained by a coach who does not have any experience in training a club as big as Juventus.

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May 14, 2021, 10:06:32 PM
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I have already written about this many times and I will repeat again that Alegre was the best option for Juventus and it was a very big mistake to fire him.

That's right!!!
They sent away a coach who was doing an excellent job. And they put an "amateur" as the team's coach, expecting Ronaldo to do all the work. Nor did they invest properly in the squad.


I hope that Juventus will realize their mistake at the end of this season and will reach an agreement with the right manager for them. If they don't make that change, they can have another season which will give headaches.

I agree pirlo is not a coach for juventus.This is giant club and for an unexperienced trainer this is huge loss.Pirlo destroyed juventuses big run and even fighting for UCL spot.That is just insane.I wouldnt give him another chance.Maybe he can go to Sassuolo and coach them until he gains experience
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May 14, 2021, 10:58:37 PM
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No matter how great Ronaldo is, of course he will not be able to do much if there is no team cohesiveness, and like you, I also think that Andrea Pirlo is the beginning of Juventus destruction this season, in my opinion Juventus, who was previously coached by Maurizio Sarri, is quite consistent even though last season only able to finish on 16 champion leagues, even so Juventus was able to win the 2019/20 season sscudetto, but unfortunately Juventus management at that time made a pretty bad decision when sacking Maurizio Sarri and replacing him with Andrea Pirlo, whose coaching experience is still questionable and from several sources that I have read mentioning that Andrea Pirlo at that time had not even completed his coaching course at all, I think that no matter how great a player who plays at Juventus today will not be able to make Juventus champion if trained by a coach who does not have any experience in training a club as big as Juventus.
The amazing thing is, in the last championship, Sarri did not suit many as the head coach of Juventus, but now it suddenly turns out that this was not the worst option Wink Andrea Agnelli just set up Pirlo when a coach with absolutely no experience tries to lead a team with such ambitions as Juventus. Pirlo should have done the same as Xavi did when he refused to take charge of Barcelona, feeling a lack of experience. Whatever we say about Ronaldo, but the Portuguese continues to do his job properly and is constantly among the top scorers of the Italian championship, just with all due respect to Juventus, the club is inferior to Barcelona or Real Madrid, where Ronaldo left at the time.
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May 15, 2021, 02:22:16 AM
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I have already written about this many times and I will repeat again that Alegre was the best option for Juventus and it was a very big mistake to fire him.
That's right!!!
They sent away a coach who was doing an excellent job. And they put an "amateur" as the team's coach, expecting Ronaldo to do all the work. Nor did they invest properly in the squad.
I hope that Juventus will realize their mistake at the end of this season and will reach an agreement with the right manager for them. If they don't make that change, they can have another season which will give headaches.
I agree pirlo is not a coach for juventus.This is giant club and for an unexperienced trainer this is huge loss.Pirlo destroyed juventuses big run and even fighting for UCL spot.That is just insane.I wouldnt give him another chance.Maybe he can go to Sassuolo and coach them until he gains experience

This is the result of the gamble that Juventus made by making Pirlo as a coach, Juventus performance has been very disappointing both in Serie A
and in the Champions League. Even next season there is the possibility of not playing in the Champions League if Juventus fail to beat Inter,
which is about to start. Although in the end, if Juventus made it into the top 4 this season, I still agree that Juventus should fire Pirlo and replace
him with an experienced coach. Being a great player, there is no guarantee that he will be a great coach either.

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May 15, 2021, 06:54:32 AM
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This is the result of the gamble that Juventus made by making Pirlo as a coach, Juventus performance has been very disappointing both in Serie A
and in the Champions League. Even next season there is the possibility of not playing in the Champions League if Juventus fail to beat Inter,
which is about to start. Although in the end, if Juventus made it into the top 4 this season, I still agree that Juventus should fire Pirlo and replace
him with an experienced coach. Being a great player, there is no guarantee that he will be a great coach either.

I think that Pirlo with this history of accepting training for Juventos, screwed up two things:
- Juventus was a shameful season, compared to what it has done in the last 10 years, and with the squad it has.
- You can probably have ruined your career as a coach if you don't have the humility to accept going to a small club to gain experience.

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May 15, 2021, 08:06:09 AM
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To secure a Champions League position, I think it's quite easy for AC Milan. In the next match AC Milan will play against Cagliari, which is a level far below AC Milan.

But in football, no one can predict for sure except the match against the caretaker team  Cheesy hehehe...

Hopefully atalanta can't win the rest of its matches, so that we can all see the top Italian league teams play in the Champions League
It is very clear that Ac Milan can defend his Champions League title next season, especially his opponent Cagliari, but I don't take it for granted too, the fact is that AC Milan will win against Cagliari. That's in my opinion, nothing compared to AC milan. where ac milan their performance is very good in the remaining few matches.

I wouldn't say that to Milan as even if they will be facing Cagliari they will be facing Atalanta on their next match and Napoli as well as Juventus is not that far behind although Juventus will be facing Inter Milan I don't think this top 2-5 teams will be giving up on this spots so really this is a close one for all 4 teams. In terms of schedule Juventus might be the toughest one but Milan and Atalanta will also be facing each other and that match could be a deciding factor on who enters the Champions League.


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May 15, 2021, 08:16:37 AM
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Perhaps it is not enough for Conte to end the domination of 9 years as revenge against the administration he went out with.
Today Conte have the chance to send  Juventus to the European League!
Pirlo knows that people in the administration cling to him, but he needs to help them through fourth place .
Because if he goes to the European League, he will not find anyone who dares to support him.
Anyway i expect an advantage for Inter as they can score against any side  they got an incredible attacking potential. On the other hand, Cristiano Ronaldo and the lads are expected to produce at least one goal. Therefore, I believe both teams will be scoring in this encounter.
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Perhaps it is not enough for Conte to end the domination of 9 years as revenge against the administration he went out with.
Today Conte have the chance to send  Juventus to the European League!
Pirlo knows that people in the administration cling to him, but he needs to help them through fourth place .
Because if he goes to the European League, he will not find anyone who dares to support him.
Anyway i expect an advantage for Inter as they can score against any side  they got an incredible attacking potential. On the other hand, Cristiano Ronaldo and the lads are expected to produce at least one goal. Therefore, I believe both teams will be scoring in this encounter.

Yep it could be the day conte to show his cruelty towards Juve by making them play in the EL.
as Milain Napoli and Atalanta have a win is not so far out ,
Just imagine Juventus is not in the UCL, Ronaldo the top scorer in the history of that competition not even participating
The problem is that Juventus does not need to win today only
But they still needs to catch up with them ,
Will everything be against the old lady by the end of the next two rounds? everything pointing out that they are the one to miss out
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May 15, 2021, 09:56:40 AM
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I think that Pirlo with this history of accepting training for Juventos, screwed up two things:
- Juventus was a shameful season, compared to what it has done in the last 10 years, and with the squad it has.
- You can probably have ruined your career as a coach if you don't have the humility to accept going to a small club to gain experience.
The match against Inter Milan and Inter Milan can decide the open gates for Pirlo and Ronaldo out of Turin.

Despite of the support from Juventus board months ago that Pirlo will be the coach in next season
Despite of the difficulty Ronaldo has to find a new club with his demand on salary and club competitiveness to win Champions League.

I believe that if Inter Milan win that match and close the chance of Juventus to participate in Champions League next season, both Pirlo and Ronaldo will leave Turin.

Fairly said for Pirlo, the season is very bad at the end but he managed well in the first half but injury and his management in the second half make things worse. It is different than Liverpool as they came back very strongly in late of this season. Even two clubs are behind the fourth clubs on the table, but Liverpool look better.

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Source: https://twitter.com/juventusfc/status/1393517163722510336

Big day big game but an almost useless game for both teams, even if Juventus will win they need to hope for the others games...

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May 15, 2021, 11:57:03 AM
 #18254

Derby di Roma later today. I've booked this for the game



a must-win for Roma as they're still in the race for an Europa Conference spot and Sassuolo are just one 2pts behind them in the league table. If Roma play their usual football, the Over corners should hit pretty comfortably. Last derby saw 8 yellow cards in total, and given the fact that today's a high-stakes game, it should see around the same amount of cards, but i'll play it safe with Over 4.5. BOL!

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May 15, 2021, 12:06:00 PM
 #18255

Derby di Roma later today. I've booked this for the game



a must-win for Roma as they're still in the race for an Europa Conference spot and Sassuolo are just one 2pts behind them in the league table. If Roma play their usual football, the Over corners should hit pretty comfortably. Last derby saw 8 yellow cards in total, and given the fact that today's a high-stakes game, it should see around the same amount of cards, but i'll play it safe with Over 4.5. BOL!

Roma should keep winning to maintain their place and go to the UCL, yes. On the other hand, Lazio have a chance for top 4 but it is a really slight chance. But I'm sure that they will try their best also. I guess we will watch a close game. I expect both teams to score in this one. When it comes to the result, it feels like Roma will manage to beat Lazio by 1 goal.

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May 15, 2021, 01:33:25 PM
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Roma should keep winning to maintain their place and go to the UCL, yes. On the other hand, Lazio have a chance for top 4 but it is a really slight chance. But I'm sure that they will try their best also. I guess we will watch a close game. I expect both teams to score in this one. When it comes to the result, it feels like Roma will manage to beat Lazio by 1 goal.

How Can They Hold Their Position To UCL?

In fact, it will be very difficult for them to get a position at UEL  Cheesy

Currently only Lazio have the chance to surpass Juventus, they (Lazio) have only played in 35 matches while other teams have completed 36 matches

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May 15, 2021, 01:46:48 PM
 #18257

Roma should keep winning to maintain their place and go to the UCL, yes. On the other hand, Lazio have a chance for top 4 but it is a really slight chance. But I'm sure that they will try their best also. I guess we will watch a close game. I expect both teams to score in this one. When it comes to the result, it feels like Roma will manage to beat Lazio by 1 goal.

How Can They Hold Their Position To UCL?

In fact, it will be very difficult for them to get a position at UEL  Cheesy

Currently only Lazio have the chance to surpass Juventus, they (Lazio) have only played in 35 matches while other teams have completed 36 matches
I think that even these two teams have no chance of getting into the top 4, so it is impossible for Lazio and Roma to play at UCL. Even though Lazio have postponed matches but still, its competitors have better abilities like Napoli and Juventus. But when it comes to who will win this match I personally don't have a good feeling about that, but at least the match will be hard and it looks like 3 goals might be there in this match.

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May 15, 2021, 01:57:11 PM
 #18258

I think that even these two teams have no chance of getting into the top 4, so it is impossible for Lazio and Roma to play at UCL. Even though Lazio have postponed matches but still, its competitors have better abilities like Napoli and Juventus. But when it comes to who will win this match I personally don't have a good feeling about that, but at least the match will be hard and it looks like 3 goals might be there in this match.

I Know It, @Judas talks about Roma who might go to UCL, even to UEL they will have a lot of trouble  Cheesy

Therefore I say that Lazio are more likely to be able to play at UEL.

Or maybe @Judas doesn't understand football and the standings

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May 15, 2021, 02:01:30 PM
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Roma should keep winning to maintain their place and go to the UCL, yes. On the other hand, Lazio have a chance for top 4 but it is a really slight chance. But I'm sure that they will try their best also. I guess we will watch a close game. I expect both teams to score in this one. When it comes to the result, it feels like Roma will manage to beat Lazio by 1 goal.

How Can They Hold Their Position To UCL?

In fact, it will be very difficult for them to get a position at UEL  Cheesy

Currently only Lazio have the chance to surpass Juventus, they (Lazio) have only played in 35 matches while other teams have completed 36 matches
I think that even these two teams have no chance of getting into the top 4, so it is impossible for Lazio and Roma to play at UCL. Even though Lazio have postponed matches but still, its competitors have better abilities like Napoli and Juventus. But when it comes to who will win this match I personally don't have a good feeling about that, but at least the match will be hard and it looks like 3 goals might be there in this match.

@hahay Roma is already ruled out from making it to next year’s champions league, and I’m not sure if others saw their points or no because it’s over for them. Furthermore Lazio will have to win all their remaining fixtures, and hope that other teams lose their respective games in order to clinch that last champions league spot.
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May 15, 2021, 02:04:07 PM
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I think that even these two teams have no chance of getting into the top 4, so it is impossible for Lazio and Roma to play at UCL. Even though Lazio have postponed matches but still, its competitors have better abilities like Napoli and Juventus. But when it comes to who will win this match I personally don't have a good feeling about that, but at least the match will be hard and it looks like 3 goals might be there in this match.
Roma mathematically impossible for any competition and Lazio should win all its games and wait for Napoli/or/Milan and Juve to lose their games, almost mission impossible. However, Lazio could take Juve place if it lose today vs Inter and considering Lazio winning its remaining matches obviously..
Juve is in an awkward situation, already 2 CL spots were filled by Inter and Atalanta which is leading with 3 goals in the first half vs Genoa.

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