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June 16, 2021, 11:28:45 PM
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Obviously Atalanta is a good club. They have been playing very well lately. Apart from any star players, the performance they are performing is truly commendable. But we could not compare Atalanta with Atletico Madrid. Atletico Madrid is a very experienced club. And composed of experienced and skilled players.
Atalanta's performance is seasonal that's why they are unpredictable to be classified among the best club or not, sometimes Atalanta plays a perfect football in a season and become worst in other season, they aren't consistent in their winnings at all and they sometimes loss heavily by conceding high goals unlike Atletico Madrid who hardly concede goals but win with little goal margin.
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June 16, 2021, 11:44:18 PM
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Obviously Atalanta is a good club. They have been playing very well lately. Apart from any star players, the performance they are performing is truly commendable. But we could not compare Atalanta with Atletico Madrid. Atletico Madrid is a very experienced club. And composed of experienced and skilled players.

But the Italian national team has several players from Atalanta, very good players who are playing very well in Euro 2020.
Of course, the two clubs are at different levels, but Atalanta has been growing very well.

I agree with some Atalanta players playing for the national team, it proves Atalanta has quality players. Unfortunately Atalanta don't have
the finances of Atletico Madrid, so Atalanta can't buy the star players that Atletico can do. So I agree that both have different levels, but that
doesn't mean Atalanta can't improve. I believe Atalanta can develop into a better team, but it will be even better if Atalanta can get a new owner,
so can buy some star players.

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June 17, 2021, 12:42:03 AM
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Obviously Atalanta is a good club. They have been playing very well lately. Apart from any star players, the performance they are performing is truly commendable. But we could not compare Atalanta with Atletico Madrid. Atletico Madrid is a very experienced club. And composed of experienced and skilled players.

But the Italian national team has several players from Atalanta, very good players who are playing very well in Euro 2020.
Of course, the two clubs are at different levels, but Atalanta has been growing very well.

I agree with some Atalanta players playing for the national team, it proves Atalanta has quality players. Unfortunately Atalanta don't have
the finances of Atletico Madrid, so Atalanta can't buy the star players that Atletico can do. So I agree that both have different levels, but that
doesn't mean Atalanta can't improve. I believe Atalanta can develop into a better team, but it will be even better if Atalanta can get a new owner,
so can buy some star players.

Well Atalanta is a middle class team for many years before just competing to survive now they have bought small players and turned them into something huge you cannot expect Atalanta to buy superstars when their budget is 10x lower then for example from Inter or Juventus. Congrats to them because they are at top level for many years already.

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June 17, 2021, 02:58:37 AM
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Obviously Atalanta is a good club. They have been playing very well lately. Apart from any star players, the performance they are performing is truly commendable. But we could not compare Atalanta with Atletico Madrid. Atletico Madrid is a very experienced club. And composed of experienced and skilled players.
Atalanta is uncomparable with Sevilla too but I would like to see them have a same growth as Sevilla and Atletico Madrid. It will be good for Serie A generally but they will need to have a stability in their coach and sport director positions.

Atletico Madrid has many years with only Simeone as a coach and Sevilla has Monchi. They are valuable brains for their successes and Atalanta should learn from those two clubs, then build up their long term plans. Players come and go but brains of the club should be kept.

I agree with some Atalanta players playing for the national team, it proves Atalanta has quality players. Unfortunately Atalanta don't have
the finances of Atletico Madrid, so Atalanta can't buy the star players that Atletico can do. So I agree that both have different levels, but that
doesn't mean Atalanta can't improve. I believe Atalanta can develop into a better team, but it will be even better if Atalanta can get a new owner,
so can buy some star players.
Atalanta and Sassuolo are the most exciting clubs in Serie A recent years. They are not big clubs but have some good and young players. Some of them moved to bigger clubs like Inter Milan, AS Roma and they are the future of Italian national team.

Sassuolo don't have big success like Atalanta but I don't underestimate them.

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June 17, 2021, 02:12:49 PM
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Obviously Atalanta is a good club. They have been playing very well lately. Apart from any star players, the performance they are performing is truly commendable. But we could not compare Atalanta with Atletico Madrid. Atletico Madrid is a very experienced club. And composed of experienced and skilled players.

But the Italian national team has several players from Atalanta, very good players who are playing very well in Euro 2020.
Of course, the two clubs are at different levels, but Atalanta has been growing very well.

I agree with some Atalanta players playing for the national team, it proves Atalanta has quality players. Unfortunately Atalanta don't have
the finances of Atletico Madrid, so Atalanta can't buy the star players that Atletico can do. So I agree that both have different levels, but that
doesn't mean Atalanta can't improve. I believe Atalanta can develop into a better team, but it will be even better if Atalanta can get a new owner,
so can buy some star players.
Atlanta become most destroy team if keep consistent every year and keep dominance to get slot for champion league, we know almost three years Atlanta always pass to champion league without with qualification stage, They have more potential and quality player and last year sold Papu Gomez to Sevilla, they get much money and lately sell young player to Manchester United too.

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June 18, 2021, 01:16:27 PM
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Atlanta become most destroy team if keep consistent every year and keep dominance to get slot for champion league, we know almost three years Atlanta always pass to champion league without with qualification stage, They have more potential and quality player and last year sold Papu Gomez to Sevilla, they get much money and lately sell young player to Manchester United too.

this is Atalanta's philosophy, to build a thick and resistant wall one brick at a time
a wall that will be the foundation for the future team, always stronger

that's why I love Atalanta

it's a team that I love with my mind

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June 18, 2021, 01:28:52 PM
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Atlanta become most destroy team if keep consistent every year and keep dominance to get slot for champion league, we know almost three years Atlanta always pass to champion league without with qualification stage, They have more potential and quality player and last year sold Papu Gomez to Sevilla, they get much money and lately sell young player to Manchester United too.

this is Atalanta's philosophy, to build a thick and resistant wall one brick at a time
a wall that will be the foundation for the future team, always stronger

that's why I love Atalanta

it's a team that I love with my mind


@Oneandpure they have no option but to sell their player’s, because they need to grow their finances and as @babo rightly said plan for the future. Furthermore I feel in the long run they’ll definitely win the league once, and then hopefully they won’t need to sell their top player’s.
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June 18, 2021, 01:54:07 PM
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Atalanta has been following this plan for many years, for years it has rebounded from Serie A to Serie B, strengthening itself year after year
it's like Amazon, which has a 100-year plan..

that is, it does not have a centennial plan but has a long plan, and calmly


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June 18, 2021, 08:43:46 PM
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Atalanta has been following this plan for many years, for years it has rebounded from Serie A to Serie B, strengthening itself year after year
it's like Amazon, which has a 100-year plan..

that is, it does not have a centennial plan but has a long plan, and calmly


I don't think Atalanta will last that long. In France, Lyon became the champion for 7 years in a row, but now they are only fighting to get into the Champions League. In Italy, Juventus, Milan and Roma are currently performing rather poorly, so such clubs as Atalanta and Napoli are taking the lead. As soon as the former favorites gain strength, Atalanta will take his place in the middle of the table.
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But the Italian national team has several players from Atalanta, very good players who are playing very well in Euro 2020.
Of course, the two clubs are at different levels, but Atalanta has been growing very well.
I agree with some Atalanta players playing for the national team, it proves Atalanta has quality players. Unfortunately Atalanta don't have
the finances of Atletico Madrid, so Atalanta can't buy the star players that Atletico can do. So I agree that both have different levels, but that
doesn't mean Atalanta can't improve. I believe Atalanta can develop into a better team, but it will be even better if Atalanta can get a new owner,
so can buy some star players.
Atlanta become most destroy team if keep consistent every year and keep dominance to get slot for champion league, we know almost three years Atlanta always pass to champion league without with qualification stage, They have more potential and quality player and last year sold Papu Gomez to Sevilla, they get much money and lately sell young player to Manchester United too.

I am also quite amazed by Atalanta's achievements in the last 3 seasons by always entering the Champions League spot, this actually proves
Atalanta is quite consistent in the last 3 seasons. Atalanta sold some of their players as you mentioned, it's natural to make the club's finances
stable. Because a team like Atalanta doesn't earn a lot of money, it's necessary to sell their players to help finance the club. I think Atalanta's
current success is because Gian Piero Gasperini's strategy is working very well, even though Gasperini failed to coach Inter in 2011.
But with Atalanta he was quite successful by bringing Atalanta to always finish in the top 3 for 3 consecutive seasons.

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June 18, 2021, 10:54:27 PM
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Atalanta has been following this plan for many years, for years it has rebounded from Serie A to Serie B, strengthening itself year after year
it's like Amazon, which has a 100-year plan..

that is, it does not have a centennial plan but has a long plan, and calmly



Well, they have to bump things up a bit otherwise, it might become too late to do so. Now that the big teams in seria A are having difficult winning games and actively competing for the title, this is the perfect opportunity for them to snap it under their noses. I believe that in the coming season, top teams would strengthen their squads while dropping some deadweight and when that happens, it would be difficult for upcoming teams like Atalanta to get anymore shot at winning the title. It has to be soon before that opportunity window closes.

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June 20, 2021, 11:03:56 AM
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I am also quite amazed by Atalanta's achievements in the last 3 seasons by always entering the Champions League spot, this actually proves
Atalanta is quite consistent in the last 3 seasons. Atalanta sold some of their players as you mentioned, it's natural to make the club's finances
stable. Because a team like Atalanta doesn't earn a lot of money, it's necessary to sell their players to help finance the club. I think Atalanta's
current success is because Gian Piero Gasperini's strategy is working very well, even though Gasperini failed to coach Inter in 2011.
But with Atalanta he was quite successful by bringing Atalanta to always finish in the top 3 for 3 consecutive seasons.
3 seasons are long and with the return of AC Milan, and AS Roma, the next season will be very challenging for Atalanta. If they will be able to end in the top 4 or the third position, they will demonstrate their powerful position in Serie A.

Success of a club is contributed by many people, coach, players, scouts, sport director, and medical team, etc. Atalanta succeeded with their small transfers like Dortmund and the players they bought at cheap price, are all playing well for them.

If you watch the match Portugal and Germany, Gosen is a player from Atalanta. They discovered him, gave him chance to develop his career and got a call for Germany squad.

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Atlanta Bergamo will probably finish high again next year, but I don't think that is a team that can become champions in the league in the long run. They have actually outperformed expectations for years. Inter Milan, Juventus and a few other clubs will continue to rule. Juventus has been very disappointing in the last year, by the way. Now that the covid pandemic is almost over, I expect it will be between them and Inter. AC Milan outsider.

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Atalanta has only been up to these levels these last years and not before.They were a low quality team in Serie A most of the time and no one took them seriously.However with the latest investments and transfers they managed to play in Champions League lately.If they want to keep this level of quality they have to increase their spending as Serie A is a very competitive Championship for many small teams,because for me Atalanta still remains a small club in Serie A compared to the big ones with much bigger history.

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June 20, 2021, 11:30:16 AM
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Atalanta has only been up to these levels these last years and not before.They were a low quality team in Serie A most of the time and no one took them seriously.However with the latest investments and transfers they managed to play in Champions League lately.If they want to keep this level of quality they have to increase their spending as Serie A is a very competitive Championship for many small teams,because for me Atalanta still remains a small club in Serie A compared to the big ones with much bigger history.
Indeed, and with this improvement, of course Atalanta must also compensate for other factors but, if they are able to grow and be consistent with just mediocre players then I don't think that will be a problem either. Currently top players still can't give a 100% guarantee for an achievement but indeed, when there are top players in a team of course it will increase a lot of advantages from all sides until the team can become even bigger.

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June 20, 2021, 07:15:38 PM
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Atalanta has only been up to these levels these last years and not before.They were a low quality team in Serie A most of the time and no one took them seriously.However with the latest investments and transfers they managed to play in Champions League lately.If they want to keep this level of quality they have to increase their spending as Serie A is a very competitive Championship for many small teams,because for me Atalanta still remains a small club in Serie A compared to the big ones with much bigger history.
Indeed, and with this improvement, of course Atalanta must also compensate for other factors but, if they are able to grow and be consistent with just mediocre players then I don't think that will be a problem either. Currently top players still can't give a 100% guarantee for an achievement but indeed, when there are top players in a team of course it will increase a lot of advantages from all sides until the team can become even bigger.
These type of teams who are usually not good but become good have a difficult path in the future as well. What is that hard thing? Well players always want to get paid more and play in a team that may end up winning the league at least, or even a European cup as well, Atlanta is not that team (maybe europa if they are lucky) and that means players will want to go to a team that can do that whereas Atlanta will not be able to keep them easily. So what can they do? Well look at Leicester, they are a team that won the league once, but then they sucked however they recovered and doing fine for the last 2 seasons.

So, they should learn from them instead of all the other teams that worked harda nd then lost it afterwards. It is not an easy task, it is going to be very tough, but if they are smart about it they could actually become a top 5 team for decades.

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June 20, 2021, 07:28:49 PM
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Atlanta Bergamo will probably finish high again next year, but I don't think that is a team that can become champions in the league in the long run. They have actually outperformed expectations for years. Inter Milan, Juventus and a few other clubs will continue to rule. Juventus has been very disappointing in the last year, by the way. Now that the covid pandemic is almost over, I expect it will be between them and Inter. AC Milan outsider.
After Inter Milan get bigger problem I think scudetto next year get back by Juventus, now they have seriously to get experience coach Allegri and kicked out Andrea Pirlo after failed give Scudetto for Juventus although success with Coppa, I think after Antonio Conte left Inter Millan look not take higher level under Simone Inzhagi how ever many great player sell from Asley Young and now have left Achraf Hakimi.

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June 21, 2021, 07:10:16 AM
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After Inter Milan get bigger problem I think scudetto next year get back by Juventus, now they have seriously to get experience coach Allegri and kicked out Andrea Pirlo after failed give Scudetto for Juventus although success with Coppa, I think after Antonio Conte left Inter Millan look not take higher level under Simone Inzhagi how ever many great player sell from Asley Young and now have left Achraf Hakimi.
With Max Juventus can get the Scudetto in a next season but they will not easily get it. Inter Milan might likely have a downside but AC Milan will grow more. Also other clubs can bring more challenge to Juventus. They might not be strong enough to fight for the Scudetto but can steal points from Juventus and contribute to the competition between Juve and Milan.

It will be a good Farewell for Ronaldo in Juventus.

Indeed, and with this improvement, of course Atalanta must also compensate for other factors but, if they are able to grow and be consistent with just mediocre players then I don't think that will be a problem either. Currently top players still can't give a 100% guarantee for an achievement but indeed, when there are top players in a team of course it will increase a lot of advantages from all sides until the team can become even bigger.
Atalanta need to have good substitutes for their players in their squad. They will leave the club some days. The most impressive things I saw from Atalanta in the past season is not because they ended it at third position. It is how they kept up their good works without Papu Gomez. We know Papu used to be a most important players of Atalanta but they played well without him. Very impressive.

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because for me Atalanta still remains a small club in Serie A compared to the big ones with much bigger history.
Indeed, their names are not as famous as Juve, Milan, Inter or Roma. But Atalanta are a good team, they don't have many stars but they can finish better than Juventus. Remember in 2019 Atalanta qualified for the UCL knockout stage. If I'm not mistaken at that time Atalanta only used players who, in total, equaled half of Ronaldo's salary. This is proof that Atalanta should not be underestimated, they are a strong team. I don't know for next season but buying new players is an option to strengthen.
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