Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A)

[AndySt]

Vaccinated people shouldn't be restricted from attending stadium after a long absence imo. Such huge open air place with vaccinated people on it is safe enough, they can play with 100% of the stadium capacity with masks on or 50% without mandatory masks and with social distancing. Obviously accepting more spectators or not should be evaluated every couple of weeks depending from the situation.

Well it depends.
If we are talking about fully vaccinated people with 2 doses (or 3) or only with 1 dose.
Besides that do you feel comfortable not wearing a mask in a place full of people even vaccinated knowing it will work at 95%?
I will wear the mask for a long time.

It all depends on the number of components in the vaccine, because there are vaccines for the use of which it is enough to use one component and, accordingly, once. Professional sports are suffering a lot because of the pandemic restrictions and it's really time to make concessions in favor of already vaccinated people and all sorts of talk about discrimination is inappropriate here, because it's time for humanity to end the pandemic and only vaccination will help in solving this problem. Even if the vaccine is not one hundred percent effective, even an efficiency of 70-80 percent will be crucial if as many people as possible are vaccinated. It is sad to watch football matches without spectators or with incomplete filling of stadiums, because a certain aura of sports action is lost.

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[SquirrelJulietGarden]

It all depends on the number of components in the vaccine, because there are vaccines for the use of which it is enough to use one component and, accordingly, once. Professional sports are suffering a lot because of the pandemic restrictions and it's really time to make concessions in favor of already vaccinated people and all sorts of talk about discrimination is inappropriate here, because it's time for humanity to end the pandemic and only vaccination will help in solving this problem. Even if the vaccine is not one hundred percent effective, even an efficiency of 70-80 percent will be crucial if as many people as possible are vaccinated. It is sad to watch football matches without spectators or with incomplete filling of stadiums, because a certain aura of sports action is lost.

Efficacy in RCTs usually is lower in real population with effectiveness.

I know one article that gives a summary table about effectiveness (not efficacy) of vaccines, dose 1 and dose 2.
Are Covid Shots Working? What the Real World Tells Us

Dose 1: 30% to 35.6%
Dose 2: 67% to 88%.

For delta variant, Plizer has better effectiveness than Astra Zeneca.

[acquafredda]

The great love between Lukaku and Inter is now put to the test by the economic offer of Chelsea: but to say goodbye would be an unforgivable mistake.
First of all from a strategic point of view: giving up one of the best strikers in the world in August, about two weeks before the start of the championship, seems a rash move, regardless of the amount of money involved. Finding a replacement for him would be practically impossible and the entire Nerazzurri season would immediately take on the contours of a failure already announced.
There is also a question of international appeal to consider, as the loss of Lukaku would undoubtedly change the perception that everyone has of Inter in Italy and abroad. A club that sells its best players without the prospect of continuing to win is inevitably downsized from all points of view. Nonetheless, the relationship between the fans, the club and the players could suffer a backlash too great: Lukaku is a leader and the fans identify with him.
If money wins, they all lose.

[masulum]

I agree that people who have been vaccinated shouldn't be restricted from any kind of activities. But I think that people who are still not vaccinated shouldn't be able to attend any kind of activities. I don't respect their choice of not being vaccinated. Because they are risking our lives also, not only theirs.

Perhaps, the option to allow a maximum of 40-60% of stadium capacities, supporters to come to the stadium for those who have received the vaccine could be an option to keep the club survive in this bad economic. Sponsors indeed provide income, as well as from player transfers out with extra values. However, without supporters, it is likely to reduce the extension contract value to the clubs from sponsor. I don't know much about broadcasting contracts. Due to the possibility of supporters watching through TV or official streaming broadcaster, is it possible that the broadcast value of the match will experience a significant increase or not?

[MusaMohamed]

The great love between Lukaku and Inter is now put to the test by the economic offer of Chelsea: but to say goodbye would be an unforgivable mistake.

Inter Milan gave Lukaku a place to revise his career after a few failed seasons in Old Trafford. Lukaku owed their trust but he also help them to win a Scudetto. It is fair for all.

First of all from a strategic point of view: giving up one of the best strikers in the world in August, about two weeks before the start of the championship, seems a rash move, regardless of the amount of money involved. Finding a replacement for him would be practically impossible and the entire Nerazzurri season would immediately take on the contours of a failure already announced.
There is also a question of international appeal to consider, as the loss of Lukaku would undoubtedly change the perception that everyone has of Inter in Italy and abroad. A club that sells its best players without the prospect of continuing to win is inevitably downsized from all points of view. Nonetheless, the relationship between the fans, the club and the players could suffer a backlash too great: Lukaku is a leader and the fans identify with him.
If money wins, they all lose.

If Inter Milan can not find other ways to resolve their financial troubles, they will have to sell their most expensive players. Lukaku is one of them. I think they will have to sell Lautaro after Lukaku. Their finance is very poor after a few seasons overspent just to win a Scudetto. The cost is not cheap.

[sana54210]

It all depends on the number of components in the vaccine, because there are vaccines for the use of which it is enough to use one component and, accordingly, once. Professional sports are suffering a lot because of the pandemic restrictions and it's really time to make concessions in favor of already vaccinated people and all sorts of talk about discrimination is inappropriate here, because it's time for humanity to end the pandemic and only vaccination will help in solving this problem. Even if the vaccine is not one hundred percent effective, even an efficiency of 70-80 percent will be crucial if as many people as possible are vaccinated. It is sad to watch football matches without spectators or with incomplete filling of stadiums, because a certain aura of sports action is lost.

I would say that limited number was the way to go and should stay that way as well for a while longer until we see lower and lower numbers. We are still not in a place where we can say that everything is fine, specially not in Italy since they were one of the biggest numbers for a while as well, and early on too. We all heard how horrible this pandemic was from Italy basically, so it is really still a big deal for them to just forget everything because they can't.

Just do 50-60% for all vaccinated and ban all non-vaccinated people, and that should basically make things a lot easier, put one seat difference between everyone so it is like filled-empty-filled-empty-filled-empty type of situation in the stadium, that way they could have a good amount of fans on stands and yet it will be a bit more safe. If you do 100% filed it is still risky even with vaccination because vaccination is helping you not die, but you can still get infected and spread it.

[CLS63]

I've heard that Cristiano Ronaldo still wants to leave. And he really wants to go back to his old club, Real Madrid. But it seems like this transfer can happen on one condition. Real Madrid are still making a big effort to be able to sign PSG centre-forward Kylian Mbappe. If this transfer happens, then Ronaldo should forget about it. If not, then we might see Ronaldo back at Bernabeu again this summer.

[coinlocket$]

I've heard that Cristiano Ronaldo still wants to leave. And he really wants to go back to his old club, Real Madrid. But it seems like this transfer can happen on one condition. Real Madrid are still making a big effort to be able to sign PSG centre-forward Kylian Mbappe. If this transfer happens, then Ronaldo should forget about it. If not, then we might see Ronaldo back at Bernabeu again this summer.

I think it is the only clickbait at this point of the session.
Cristiano is an Industry he and Juventus need time to prepare the exit strategy, finding new players move the press conferences, etc.

The season will starts in 2 weeks, it is too late now.

He will stay at least 1 more year, IMHO.

[Lordhermes]

I've heard that Cristiano Ronaldo still wants to leave. And he really wants to go back to his old club, Real Madrid. But it seems like this transfer can happen on one condition. Real Madrid are still making a big effort to be able to sign PSG centre-forward Kylian Mbappe. If this transfer happens, then Ronaldo should forget about it. If not, then we might see Ronaldo back at Bernabeu again this summer.

It seems Ronaldo is not getting what he wanted at Juventus that why he wants to leave.After a couple of years there,he hasn't being able to take the champions league,and he is more eager to take it now that Messi is in pole position to take it this time.He will want to revive the competition that was on between him and Messi again.And the only way to do that is to go back his former club Madrid,where the chances of winning champions league is a little higher.

[hahay]

I've heard that Cristiano Ronaldo still wants to leave. And he really wants to go back to his old club, Real Madrid. But it seems like this transfer can happen on one condition. Real Madrid are still making a big effort to be able to sign PSG centre-forward Kylian Mbappe. If this transfer happens, then Ronaldo should forget about it. If not, then we might see Ronaldo back at Bernabeu again this summer.

It seems Ronaldo is not getting what he wanted at Juventus that why he wants to leave.After a couple of years there,he hasn't being able to take the champions league,and he is more eager to take it now that Messi is in pole position to take it this time.He will want to revive the competition that was on between him and Messi again.And the only way to do that is to go back his former club Madrid,where the chances of winning champions league is a little higher.

Well, I personally don't believe Kylian Mbappe will move because as I said before, Mbappe is an asset for PSG's future that looks likely to be kept. Therefore, instead of releasing Mbappe, it seems better for PSG to make other options to get Ronaldo, such as swapping or releasing one of their players. From one source I got PSG are ready to let Mauro Icardi go for Ronaldo, and I think that is a very good option.

[rmhuntley]

I've heard that Cristiano Ronaldo still wants to leave. And he really wants to go back to his old club, Real Madrid. But it seems like this transfer can happen on one condition. Real Madrid are still making a big effort to be able to sign PSG centre-forward Kylian Mbappe. If this transfer happens, then Ronaldo should forget about it. If not, then we might see Ronaldo back at Bernabeu again this summer.

It seems Ronaldo is not getting what he wanted at Juventus that why he wants to leave.After a couple of years there,he hasn't being able to take the champions league,and he is more eager to take it now that Messi is in pole position to take it this time.He will want to revive the competition that was on between him and Messi again.And the only way to do that is to go back his former club Madrid,where the chances of winning champions league is a little higher.

Well, I personally don't believe Kylian Mbappe will move because as I said before, Mbappe is an asset for PSG's future that looks likely to be kept. Therefore, instead of releasing Mbappe, it seems better for PSG to make other options to get Ronaldo, such as swapping or releasing one of their players. From one source I got PSG are ready to let Mauro Icardi go for Ronaldo, and I think that is a very good option.

Kylian Mbappe deny to extended and got new contract with PSG and become free transfer player next year, if want left this player by free transfer PSG will keep stay for this player and not get anything next year. Now only Real Madrid have rumors with this player but anything possible with Juventus to get this player sign, just sell Cristiano Ronaldo and get fresh money to buy Kylian Mbappe from PSG.

[MusaMohamed]

Kylian Mbappe deny to extended and got new contract with PSG and become free transfer player next year, if want left this player by free transfer PSG will keep stay for this player and not get anything next year. Now only Real Madrid have rumors with this player but anything possible with Juventus to get this player sign, just sell Cristiano Ronaldo and get fresh money to buy Kylian Mbappe from PSG.

He can create pressure on PSG and request to leave the club. PSG have ability to satisfy salary demand from Mbappe but if he no longer feel happy in PSG, they will not be able to keep him there.

If salary is not what Mbappe want, PSG can not keep him.

I don't think leaving PSG is a good decision from Mbappe because the club is very strong and can keep their power in many season. 5 or 10 more years when Mbappe will be in his thirties. Real Madrid can be a bigger club in history but Mbappe will waste his 2 or seasons in Real because they can not come back with new players just within one season.

If Mbappe want to leave, Manchester City is better but if it is Manchester City, they are not better than PSG.

[joker_josue]

It seems Ronaldo is not getting what he wanted at Juventus that why he wants to leave.After a couple of years there,he hasn't being able to take the champions league,and he is more eager to take it now that Messi is in pole position to take it this time.He will want to revive the competition that was on between him and Messi again.And the only way to do that is to go back his former club Madrid,where the chances of winning champions league is a little higher.

I have some doubts that he wants to return to Real Madrid. I soon see him return to England, where Man United have been improving significantly in recent seasons, and this season is certainly having a great season.

If it's for the money, he might as well run to PSG. But, I don't think it's the right club for him.

[Swordsoffreedom]

It seems Ronaldo is not getting what he wanted at Juventus that why he wants to leave.After a couple of years there,he hasn't being able to take the champions league,and he is more eager to take it now that Messi is in pole position to take it this time.He will want to revive the competition that was on between him and Messi again.And the only way to do that is to go back his former club Madrid,where the chances of winning champions league is a little higher.

I have some doubts that he wants to return to Real Madrid. I soon see him return to England, where Man United have been improving significantly in recent seasons, and this season is certainly having a great season.
If it's for the money, he might as well run to PSG. But, I don't think it's the right club for him.

Ronaldo will not return to Real Madrid. The Real Madrid team is not as strong as it used to be. Moreover, when Ronaldo left Real Madrid, Real Madrid did not give him the respect he deserved. If Ronaldo wants to leave Juventus, he is likely to choose Manchester United or PSG as his next club.

[Karartma1]

Reading the news, it's clear Ronaldo said no to Real Madrid. He doesn't want to go back to Spain. In the meanwhile he's helping himself and his wife with new fancy cars as you can see from his Instagram. Now it's the time for a Brabus GV12 900 based on a Mercedes-AMG G 63. 280 km/h max speed..... not bad for a car that will go to the supermarket! 

[Altryist]

Kylian Mbappe deny to extended and got new contract with PSG and become free transfer player next year, if want left this player by free transfer PSG will keep stay for this player and not get anything next year. Now only Real Madrid have rumors with this player but anything possible with Juventus to get this player sign, just sell Cristiano Ronaldo and get fresh money to buy Kylian Mbappe from PSG.

Why he  should leave from PSG? The contract is excellent, gets well paid, so he has nothing to complain about. Juventus will also not replace Ronaldo for Mbappa, because although Ronaldo is a senior player, he is a real leader on the field and leads the team. And Mbappe is just a good striker.

[masulum]

AC Milan had to draw in 2x45" (lose 5-3 on penalties)  against Valencia. However, during the match, the performance from the maignan is was quite good by make a several saves for some of the chances that Valencia had. Likewise, Valencia's goalkeeper also appeared extraordinary. A pretty good match for AC Milan, although I think AC Milan might need a striker who can destroyed oppnent's defender against a team with quality equal to or better than Valencia. Next, AC Milan will face Madrid, in other Juventus will meet Barca who just lost to Salzburg. 2 long awaited pre-season games.

[DIA7]

The great love between Lukaku and Inter is now put to the test by the economic offer of Chelsea: but to say goodbye would be an unforgivable mistake.

Inter Milan gave Lukaku a place to revise his career after a few failed seasons in Old Trafford. Lukaku owed their trust but he also help them to win a Scudetto. It is fair for all.

First of all from a strategic point of view: giving up one of the best strikers in the world in August, about two weeks before the start of the championship, seems a rash move, regardless of the amount of money involved. Finding a replacement for him would be practically impossible and the entire Nerazzurri season would immediately take on the contours of a failure already announced.
There is also a question of international appeal to consider, as the loss of Lukaku would undoubtedly change the perception that everyone has of Inter in Italy and abroad. A club that sells its best players without the prospect of continuing to win is inevitably downsized from all points of view. Nonetheless, the relationship between the fans, the club and the players could suffer a backlash too great: Lukaku is a leader and the fans identify with him.
If money wins, they all lose.

If Inter Milan can not find other ways to resolve their financial troubles, they will have to sell their most expensive players. Lukaku is one of them. I think they will have to sell Lautaro after Lukaku. Their finance is very poor after a few seasons overspent just to win a Scudetto. The cost is not cheap.

Inter the Calcio champion to the brink of bankruptcy as they began to say goodbye to the Scudetto early, even before the start of the new season.
The story began with the departure of the one who had the greatest credit for Inter’s return to the podiums, and here is the talk about Conte, who knew very well that the team could not maintain Most of the pillars were due to debts, so the best option for him was to leave.
Conte's departure from Inter was compensated by Inzaghi, but all of them are in the balance.The latter did not go through in his training career an experience of this size and under these pressures. In addition to selling a number of the team's pillars all of these The indicators weaken the shares of Inzaghi’s success with his new team.
The departure of the Moroccan Ashraf Hakimi to Paris Saint-Germain and the approaching departure of the Belgian Lukaku to Chelsea.
All of these are in order to pay the debts, mathematically, it is difficult to compensate them. Replacing them?.Literally, Inter is looking for a player with the same value as the player sold sporting less than him financially, and this makes the equation difficult.
And here is the role of the club's scouts and the team's sports director in finding emerging talent and bringing deals in a way that serves the team.
Actually, the success of a season now Whether or not it depends on that.. Of course, without forgetting Inzaghi, he must find the right combination.
Failure to find the right combination or delay in that will result in wasting a lot of points at the beginning of the season, making the team under great pressure at the end of the season or you will be out of the competition for name early.

[snipie]

Reading the news, it's clear Ronaldo said no to Real Madrid. He doesn't want to go back to Spain. In the meanwhile he's helping himself and his wife with new fancy cars as you can see from his Instagram. Now it's the time for a Brabus GV12 900 based on a Mercedes-AMG G 63. 280 km/h max speed..... not bad for a car that will go to the supermarket! 

Football players in general earn a lot of money comparing to other jobs and other sports players which I find illogical. Obviously many of them spent it for useless things and become broke after retirement. I am not pointing that CR7 will be one of them since he owns some business AFAIK but there is many of them in a list that I read once in article.

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Besides that do you feel comfortable not wearing a mask in a place full of people even vaccinated knowing it will work at 95%?

I will wear the mask for a long time.

I still stick with the mask outside the house regardless of the situation, so yeah being in a crowded place with people fully vaccinated in an open space will not change my attitude

[ILuckyGuyI]

There are still rumours about Ronaldo about he will be leaving the team for Real Madrid. But they are just rumours. I haven't heard anything from Ronaldo about such thing. It looks like he is still happy being at Juventus and believes in Allegri to make the team much better. So, I don't expect such transfer to happen.