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September 06, 2022, 06:51:49 AM
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The result is predictable that without any problem Atalanta can win from Monza and while other big teams such as Inter, Milan or Juventus still struggle to find their best shape and unstable but Atalanta can managed their performance until week 5 and they deserved to get first position on standings league and i have to say compare to other teams on big 6 Atalanta schedules is more easy than them even for next week Atalanta will fight against another weak team Cremonese so 3 points probably will almost certainly belongs to them again

Atalanta is playing a solid season thus far. They have been doing well over the last couple of years given the financial possibilities they have. They are not the big standard name in Serie A and yet they are taken very seriously by the best clubs.

Right now Serie A looks similarly interesting when compared to the Premier League. It's impossible to tell who the real favorite is for the title. Inter and Lazio have recently been losing points but still can't be crossed off the list for the favorites.

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September 06, 2022, 07:02:10 AM
Last edit: September 06, 2022, 09:04:22 PM by Docnaster
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The result is predictable that without any problem Atalanta can win from Monza and while other big teams such as Inter, Milan or Juventus still struggle to find their best shape and unstable but Atalanta can managed their performance until week 5 and they deserved to get first position on standings league and i have to say compare to other teams on big 6 Atalanta schedules is more easy than them even for next week Atalanta will fight against another weak team Cremonese so 3 points probably will almost certainly belongs to them again

Atalanta is playing a solid season thus far. They have been doing well over the last couple of years given the financial possibilities they have. They are not the big standard name in Serie A and yet they are taken very seriously by the best clubs.

Right now Serie A looks similarly interesting when compared to the Premier League. It's impossible to tell who the real favorite is for the title. Inter and Lazio have recently been losing points but still can't be crossed off the list for the favorites.
Atalanta has never been a team you will mention and someone will scream, but it has been among the teams that can deny a team their full 3 points, especially when  you are so sure of it. The club is known for their fighting spirit but this time around the fight came so early and I don't know how long they will have to enjoy at the top of the table. But at the end of the season they will not be at the top, but they could make europa league appearance.

One noticeable treat about Atalanta is that most times they will not be able to win any trophy, they don't have the capacity to do so but they truly have the capability of stopping another club for achieving a title race, that is fall out of love with the club most times.

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September 06, 2022, 07:23:08 AM
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The result is predictable that without any problem Atalanta can win from Monza and while other big teams such as Inter, Milan or Juventus still struggle to find their best shape and unstable but Atalanta can managed their performance until week 5 and they deserved to get first position on standings league and i have to say compare to other teams on big 6 Atalanta schedules is more easy than them even for next week Atalanta will fight against another weak team Cremonese so 3 points probably will almost certainly belongs to them again

Atalanta is playing a solid season thus far. They have been doing well over the last couple of years given the financial possibilities they have. They are not the big standard name in Serie A and yet they are taken very seriously by the best clubs.

Right now Serie A looks similarly interesting when compared to the Premier League. It's impossible to tell who the real favorite is for the title. Inter and Lazio have recently been losing points but still can't be crossed off the list for the favorites.
this season Serie A seems to be more competitive with several teams that have risen to become better and are ready to become tight competitors for the Scudeto, although at the beginning of the season there were several teams whose performance was not stable but in terms of quality now there are several teams that are almost equal and that meaning this season the top flight Serie A will be increasingly fierce.
apart from some unsatisfactory results that a big Serie A team like Roma lost last weekend but that can't be any reference because it's still early in the season.
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so far, when we talk about consistant, Atalanta is better than other. I guess, the top club like Juventus, inter and Milan engines is didn't hot yet. Like previous session, they will back when week has entered on middle session. but, this advantage must be considering by Atalanta, they must be like this to balance them because they habits and their spirit starting to slack in the middle session.

Atalanta currently appear carefree because last season they performed full of pressure and with a fairly hectic schedule.
But now they only need to focus on Serie A so it's quite natural with their current condition to be consistent. But on the other hand this is also just the beginning of the season so it is still a little difficult to predict. It would be great if they were consistent until the end but indeed if not then the top 4 or maybe the top 6 they have to get back this season.

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September 06, 2022, 08:00:05 AM
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Is Roma going to concede their first defeat of the season? Roma trailed 1-0 at the end of the first half. Even after conceding a goal at the beginning of the match, Roma is not trying hard to score. If they don't change their strategy in the second half and attack more, they won't win. But I think Roma can score a  goal in the second half and they will be happy with 1 point from this match. However, Roma had a chance to go to the top of the points table if they win this match. There are still 45 minutes left to play. I won't be surprised if Roma win.
Early goal is enough for Udinese to keep their momentum at top and now with this goal they are fifth in league table ahead of Juventus and inter which is giving good impression of their start of this season after having first game defeat against defending champions AC Milan even 40 minutes left in this game, and we can expect change in result as well but right now they are doing good job and have good defense which is increasing tension in Roma camp.

Napoli is again at the top for some time as tomorrow Atlanta is going to face new promoted side in their match for top spot today we have two more matches with two were drawn and in third Verona have their first win of this season which give them good place in league table and now Sampdoria is in relegation zone.

Edit: German Samardzic done second goal for Udinese mean now Roma is out of this game.
^ Roma had some obvious problems while defending. This was quite evident in the performance of Roma against Udinese.
The goalkeeper also made mistakes in the game. And the attacks that Roma tried to perform did not work out either.

Napoli is at the top of the table but I don’t know for how long that will be the case. The next match for Napoli is going to be against Liverpool which is the Champions League match.
I don’t think they will be able to win that. But the next league match for Napoli is going to be against Spezia. They should have a good chance of winning that match.
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Roma has one big problem: Jose Mourinho.
an inept and expensive technician
if he takes the money spent on this useless manager and spends it on players, he definitely does a better thing

it is no coincidence that the results are visible
Roma has one the worst defeat in early days of this season even few weeks back mostly peoples were feeling they are title race contender and in this match against Udinese they were better in all statics but sadly completely fail to convert any of their chance which is big setback for Mourinho and his team if they will take as lesson for them surely they are going to be had better results in coming matches because right now most of the teams at top in Serie A are struggling badly in quality as Inter, Juventus and now Roma but surely things will be clear soon.

Napoli and Atlanta are currently leading table even in last season these teams were at top and then slip most chances same results are going to have in this season as well because these teams fail to keep quality on same level which is big concern for them.

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Atalanta finished the week as the leader. Monza weren't a very tough opponent for them in the end and they just met the expectations by a 2-0 win. Roma's very surprising loss helped them take the lead easier as well. Atalanta are really different than the previous season now. They look much stronger and determined. It is just difficult to guess if they keep up this good work most of the time during the season. But they are at least one of the biggest candidates of top 4 surely.
they came out of nowhere to be the lead in the league, a lot of people were talking about inter and juventus and they didn't mention Atalanta at all, but i don't think they can keep up with other teams, Top 4 is a good guess though.
There is no doubt they are coming out of nowhere and right now performing very good but as we all know last season they have also done same in early part of season and then in last few rounds they chock and goes down badly without of top six most chances this is going to be same in this season right now they are leading by two points from second spotted team most chances they will stay at top for another few weeks because in next match they are going to play against new promoted side Cremonese which have only one point from five matches.
 
But in seventh round a big challenge which is waiting for them which will change the shape of this league table as they are going to face ROMA on road which is also good even lost badly in last match against a struggling side.
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September 06, 2022, 01:41:14 PM
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so far, when we talk about consistant, Atalanta is better than other. I guess, the top club like Juventus, inter and Milan engines is didn't hot yet. Like previous session, they will back when week has entered on middle session. but, this advantage must be considering by Atalanta, they must be like this to balance them because they habits and their spirit starting to slack in the middle session.

Atalanta currently appear carefree because last season they performed full of pressure and with a fairly hectic schedule.
But now they only need to focus on Serie A so it's quite natural with their current condition to be consistent. But on the other hand this is also just the beginning of the season so it is still a little difficult to predict. It would be great if they were consistent until the end but indeed if not then the top 4 or maybe the top 6 they have to get back this season.
Atalanta is currently doing very well at the start of the season. last season he was only in 8th position and now at the start of the season, he is top of the table. this is a great start for Atalanta.

the other teams are also from Udinese and Torino. just like Atalanta, they did well at the start of the season. I am still waiting for the performances from Inter, Juventus, and Fiorentina who are still not at their best. I hope they don't take long to warm up the engine. Lagging behind a lot of points is of course not good.









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September 06, 2022, 01:44:00 PM
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Roma has one the worst defeat in early days of this season even few weeks back mostly peoples were feeling they are title race contender and in this match against Udinese they were better in all statics but sadly completely fail to convert any of their chance which is big setback for Mourinho and his team if they will take as lesson for them surely they are going to be had better results in coming matches because right now most of the teams at top in Serie A are struggling badly in quality as Inter, Juventus and now Roma but surely things will be clear soon.

Napoli and Atlanta are currently leading table even in last season these teams were at top and then slip most chances same results are going to have in this season as well because these teams fail to keep quality on same level which is big concern for them.
I did not expect such a terrible game in defense against Roma, which means Mourinho still failed to make Roma's defense so reliable as to be able to compete for the title. Udinese is not a top club, it's just an average club. However, Roma did not have any significant increase in the offseason, so it was not worth hoping that Mourinho could work a miracle. Atalanta took the lead, but you are right, Atalanta has always had problems with consistent results.

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so far, when we talk about consistant, Atalanta is better than other. I guess, the top club like Juventus, inter and Milan engines is didn't hot yet. Like previous session, they will back when week has entered on middle session. but, this advantage must be considering by Atalanta, they must be like this to balance them because they habits and their spirit starting to slack in the middle session.

Atalanta currently appear carefree because last season they performed full of pressure and with a fairly hectic schedule.
But now they only need to focus on Serie A so it's quite natural with their current condition to be consistent. But on the other hand this is also just the beginning of the season so it is still a little difficult to predict. It would be great if they were consistent until the end but indeed if not then the top 4 or maybe the top 6 they have to get back this season.
Yes, with Atalanta only focusing on the local league, of course Atalanta will be able to do better than the previous season. Because indeed, Atalanta's performance last season was so poor that I thought maybe Atalanta would rise quickly at least to get a European ticket but Atalanta didn't get that last season. Indeed, even though it's still early in the season there will certainly be plenty of possibilities for Atalanta whether it stays or falls a bit, but with them only focusing on the local league at least Atalanta can finish in the top four. But it should be with Atalanta's ability and not having a busy schedule for this season, they should be able to become a team in the title candidate.

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The competition for the top 4 Serie A is getting more and more interesting, because unexpectedly Atalanta this season has played extraordinary
by being at the top. It seems that this season Atalanta have found their best form again, after the previous season Atalanta played poorly
and was only in 8th position. Even though Atalanta around 2018-2021 has always consistently been in the top 4, but it must be admitted that
the 2021/2022 season Atalanta's performance has greatly decreased. But it seems that this season Atalanta has bounced back, but because
there are still many Serie A matches that Atalanta has to play. So it's too early to predict Atalanta will be back in the top 4 this season,
as you said there are Juventus and Napoli who are Atalanta's strong competitors. Even Roma this season has also experienced an increase
in performance, the conclusion is that Atalanta will not be easy to get into the top 4 this season. Atalanta should be able to show their consistency,
but if we look at Atalanta's form so far, Atalanta's chances are big enough to be in the top 4 this season.

Yes, So far Atalanta have appeared so mighty in Serie A. But I don't think they can fully be said to be solid because La Dea have not been tested because they have not faced a big team. Previously, when dealing with Milan, Gian Piero Gasperini's foster children were only able to play a draw.

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I did not expect such a terrible game in defense against Roma, which means Mourinho still failed to make Roma's defense so reliable as to be able to compete for the title. Udinese is not a top club, it's just an average club. However, Roma did not have any significant increase in the offseason, so it was not worth hoping that Mourinho could work a miracle. Atalanta took the lead, but you are right, Atalanta has always had problems with consistent results.

If AS Roma wants instant results it will hard. because Mourinho still needs players who fit his strategy and currently it is still not balanced. At Inter Milan and Madrid, Mourinho continued a team that was already solid, while at AS Roma, he had to start from a team that already had a mentality that need to be rebuilt in order to have the confidence, psychology and desire to win. Mourinho was successful in the UEFA Conference League Cup, it's been a good start, maybe in the next few seasons, we'll see Roma get better again.

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Atalanta finished the week as the leader. Monza weren't a very tough opponent for them in the end and they just met the expectations by a 2-0 win. Roma's very surprising loss helped them take the lead easier as well. Atalanta are really different than the previous season now. They look much stronger and determined. It is just difficult to guess if they keep up this good work most of the time during the season. But they are at least one of the biggest candidates of top 4 surely.
they came out of nowhere to be the lead in the league, a lot of people were talking about inter and juventus and they didn't mention Atalanta at all, but i don't think they can keep up with other teams, Top 4 is a good guess though.
There is no doubt they are coming out of nowhere and right now performing very good but as we all know last season they have also done same in early part of season and then in last few rounds they chock and goes down badly without of top six most chances this is going to be same in this season right now they are leading by two points from second spotted team most chances they will stay at top for another few weeks because in next match they are going to play against new promoted side Cremonese which have only one point from five matches.
But in seventh round a big challenge which is waiting for them which will change the shape of this league table as they are going to face ROMA on road which is also good even lost badly in last match against a struggling side.

Are you satisfied with the team's performance at the beginning of the season? The problem is that, despite their best efforts, they cannot maintain a consistent level of performance, which ultimately results in some matches that they really should not lose against opponents that are not the most difficult for them to beat. I must say, however, that they did a good job in making sure they got to the top of the table. There has been a history of them not being consistent when it matters the most. I also agree with you that it is likely to be the same situation this time as well. In my opinion, I would be very surprised if they were able to hold on to first place in the standings. However, their next match is against Cremonese, and I expect that they will also win that match as well.

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September 06, 2022, 04:16:34 PM
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If AS Roma wants instant results it will hard. because Mourinho still needs players who fit his strategy and currently it is still not balanced. At Inter Milan and Madrid, Mourinho continued a team that was already solid, while at AS Roma, he had to start from a team that already had a mentality that need to be rebuilt in order to have the confidence, psychology and desire to win. Mourinho was successful in the UEFA Conference League Cup, it's been a good start, maybe in the next few seasons, we'll see Roma get better again.
AS Roma losing heavily to Udinese was a total disappointment to Jose Mourinho and the players. But it's a normal thing for a team to lose, moreover Juventus and several big clubs in Seria Often loss to average clubs. Even in other League like Bundesliga, Where Monchangladbach will beat almighty Bayern Munich. So I don't blame Jose Mourinho for their defeats, rather he needs more money to sign more defenders for the club because most of their problems is as a result to poor defense. AS Roma would be bounced back in their next game and this is probably one of Jose Mourinho worst defeats in the Seria A so far this new season.

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But even despite this defeat, not everything is so bad - Roma is still above both Juventus and Inter and is only one point behind Milan and Napoli. I think that Mourinho will benefit from this defeat by setting up the mind set of players correctly. Sometimes a major defeat is necessary in order to more objectively evaluate your strengths and work harder. I liked his interview after the game where he said that one 0-4 defeat is better than four 0-1 defeats.

As a matter of fact, I thought Roma was going to have a better result. There was even a chance that Roma could actually win this match. However, this did not end up happening. Roma suffered a very humiliating loss in this match. However, it is understandable why something like this happened. They had made some very rookie mistakes in that match. The mistakes that were made at this level cannot be forgiven. As a result of those mistakes, they were punished very badly. In that match, Roma had a few chances to make something out of those chances, but they were not able to take them. Hopefully, they are going to work on the problems that they have found in order to fix them. The team has only played five matches so far this season, so there is still a lot of room for improvement.

No one expected such a result, but for Serie A, unexpected failures of the leaders are already commonplace. I don't agree with your analysis, Roma didn't make any rookie mistakes. They were just unlucky with the fact that Udinese scored first and then just sat in defense and played counter attacks. This is a killer tactic against a team that must try to win at all costs. On this day the Udinese were lucky. This is a good lesson and Roma needs to get used to the fact that many opponents will play against it in this way.
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Bad news, Pogba goes under surgery, and he will stay out 2 months.

Meanwhile Atalanta won again and now they are in the top, I don't think it will last but whatever.

As I said initially, Pogba took a big risk when he chose a conservative method of treatment instead of surgery - in the end he came to the very beginning, but lost a whole month.
Interestingly, different sources are now writing opposite things about his prospects - some news say that he will definitely miss the World Cup, and others that he will only be out for 6 weeks.

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September 06, 2022, 05:10:18 PM
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Bad news, Pogba goes under surgery, and he will stay out 2 months.

Meanwhile Atalanta won again and now they are in the top, I don't think it will last but whatever.
I just heard about this, did he really change his mind so he decided to have an operation because if I'm not mistaken he only decided on Rehabilitation a few weeks before?
With this the possibility when talking about him having to rest for 2 months hints his chances of being one of the players at the world cup has vanished because this will definitely be the focus of healing for Pogba.
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September 06, 2022, 05:20:16 PM
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In the second half of this match they looked like they wanted to be open and this is where their problem lies.
Precisely with their open game being one of the boomerangs in this match, they let their defense line not be too tightly guarded like in the first half which made 3 goals they had to accept in the second half.
This is something that is unexpected but still something that is understandable considering this is Serie A.

It's like that, I was surprised by the result shown by Roma, they lost very badly, well, but it's like they say, they have to recover and get ahead, the truth is I think Mou tried to put a team much more focused on the attack and wanted to have this formation but I think it's not the right one, the defense line looked very fragile and didn't have the right consistency, at this point they shouldn't lose anymore, I see Milan AC very strong and I don't know but they should react because another loss like This and it could mean very bad things for Mou and his team, I think what happened was a very bad decision in the change of strategy, and for more, it is an Italian team, its strong point has always been the defense.

Well, and at the press conference, one of Mou's words was:

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"We had a good chance at the start with Dybala who was our best player tonight. But Udinese... every time they countered either they created a chance or they scored."

Mourinho added: "The referee? When you lose 4-0 you don't talk about the referee. I prefer to lose a game 4-0 rather than four games 1-0. This was ugly, both for us and the fans. But it's life, and we move on."



Also one of the words that I liked about this bitter pill was that he preferred to lose under such a wide score than to lose 4 games, because they have started the season with a very good run, but like everything in football things sometimes It doesn't go well and that gives them a clear message, that they have to raise the level more to be at the level of the best.
Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/roma-udinese-jose-mourinho-referee-27908141

This is normal in any team, Italy is a team that has a lot to show, there is still a lot left in Serie A, and I think that despite everything it is very interesting.
I like what Mou said in this press conference because indeed in this case he also realizes what he has to improve to make Roma bounce back, but is it true that with this he will return to using the same formation as 3-4-2-1 because if they wanted to attack maybe it would be better to put more pressure with 4-3-3 or maybe by putting pressure on 3-5-2 because in my opinion when you want to attack with a 3-4-2-1 formation, this is definitely enough. burden the defenders when receiving a quick counterattack.

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September 06, 2022, 05:33:37 PM
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Bad news, Pogba goes under surgery, and he will stay out 2 months.

Meanwhile Atalanta won again and now they are in the top, I don't think it will last but whatever.

As I said initially, Pogba took a big risk when he chose a conservative method of treatment instead of surgery - in the end he came to the very beginning, but lost a whole month.
Interestingly, different sources are now writing opposite things about his prospects - some news say that he will definitely miss the World Cup, and others that he will only be out for 6 weeks.
Paul Pogba who was expected to be new ammunition for Juventus had to be absent for months right before Serie A started. Juventus really hope Pogba recovers from his injury sooner than the appointed time, but Pogba's steps make Juventus worried because he prefers conservative treatment methods over surgery. Pogba's healing process is ongoing, but it is not certain when he will be able to return to play. Most likely he will miss the World Cup, because the World Cup will start on November 21 2022.

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September 06, 2022, 06:03:29 PM
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AS Roma losing heavily to Udinese was a total disappointment to Jose Mourinho and the players. But it's a normal thing for a team to lose, moreover Juventus and several big clubs in Seria Often loss to average clubs. Even in other League like Bundesliga, Where Monchangladbach will beat almighty Bayern Munich. So I don't blame Jose Mourinho for their defeats, rather he needs more money to sign more defenders for the club because most of their problems is as a result to poor defense. AS Roma would be bounced back in their next game and this is probably one of Jose Mourinho worst defeats in the Seria A so far this new season.

On the other hand, I don't think Roma's defense is in serious trouble, we can see that since the new Serie A season start, this is the second time Roma's defense has been penetrated by opponents after Juventus, in the previous four match Roma's defense is really tough, even a team like Juventus who have gone through some change difficulty to get into the defense of Roma. I don't consider the recent 4-0 defeat to Udinese to expect Mourinho to get rid of some of their defenders, it was quite good and the chemistry between the defenders and the midfield was also very good. Overhauling the Roma defense will bring new problems and it will take time to rebuild the chemistry between players.

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