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October 12, 2022, 05:37:12 PM
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As I understand it, the clowning in Juventus continues - instead of dismissing the coach, he is given additional powers: Juventus goes into closed mode and the players will not leave the base until the next match against Torino  Grin WTF? As I understand it, there is some kind of struggle within the team and management is on the side of the coach, but is it really possible to solve the problem with such methods? Now angry players can deliberately lose to Torino with some ridiculous score like 0-5. I won't be surprised.

As far as I understand and according to the rumours, Juventus did not sack Allegri because the compensation they had to pay was too big. As we know that Allegri is still under contract with Juventus until June 2025.

In addition, Agnelli also told the media that Juventus' poor performance this season cannot be blamed solely on Allegri, this is a problem for the team and the board of directors, so they will try to find the source of the problem and restore their spirits. Their game against Torino could probably be one that will prove how, and how far they have recovered.

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October 12, 2022, 05:54:54 PM
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As I understand it, the clowning in Juventus continues - instead of dismissing the coach, he is given additional powers: Juventus goes into closed mode and the players will not leave the base until the next match against Torino  Grin WTF? As I understand it, there is some kind of struggle within the team and management is on the side of the coach, but is it really possible to solve the problem with such methods? Now angry players can deliberately lose to Torino with some ridiculous score like 0-5. I won't be surprised.
Juventus' internal problems are really messed up at the moment because indeed they continue to make lots of mistakes and can't be closed one by one.
It's clear now with the results getting worse the trust in Allegri is getting bigger and bigger and this will be a problem of course.
Clown might be the right word for now lol. Instead of fixing the problem they are getting worse with pressure everywhere.

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October 12, 2022, 06:19:58 PM
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I started to feel like Allegri's time is running out at Juventus. The Maccabi Haifa defeat must be a big influence on the board to rethink of their decision about keeping Allegri for long years. They couldn't even defeat a very weak opponent like Maccabi Haifa no matter they play away or home against them. This was another critical match for Juventus to maintain their chance for next round in the Champions League. But now they need a miracle against PSG and Benfica to revert things.

I think that Allegri is likely to get sacked before the end of the first half of the season if bad results keep coming in the Serie A as well.

Juventus have two big problems with the manager. Allegri's contract is really pushing Juventus. If Juventus send him mid-season, who will they replace him with?

I think waiting is the best option for Juventus right now. Maybe if they manage to convince Zinedine Zidane they can make a quick decision about Allegri. Otherwise, I don't think there is anything to rush them. They need to be calmer so they don't make another mistake. I think Juventus are doing the right thing by leaving their decision on Allegri to the end of the season.

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October 12, 2022, 06:30:19 PM
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Lazio, Udinese, and Milan have the same points only Lazio is superior on goal difference. just like you too, I really salute the developments that occur in Lazio, they look amazing. ciro immobile closed Lazio's win by scoring 1 goal in the 91st minute, he is the top scorer in Serie A with 6 goals.
It's surprising to see the ranking of the class so far. This was beyond my guess before the season started. Juventus, Inter, Milan are off the beaten track. They were missing from the top 3.
Even Roma, who has a fairly good transfer, is playing unstable. It seems that the transfer market later should be used to improve the team's situation. Otherwise it is even possible that Inter, Milan, and Juventus will not qualify for the UCL next season.
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As I understand it, the clowning in Juventus continues - instead of dismissing the coach, he is given additional powers: Juventus goes into closed mode and the players will not leave the base until the next match against Torino  Grin WTF? As I understand it, there is some kind of struggle within the team and management is on the side of the coach, but is it really possible to solve the problem with such methods? Now angry players can deliberately lose to Torino with some ridiculous score like 0-5. I won't be surprised.

As far as I understand and according to the rumours, Juventus did not sack Allegri because the compensation they had to pay was too big. As we know that Allegri is still under contract with Juventus until June 2025.

In addition, Agnelli also told the media that Juventus' poor performance this season cannot be blamed solely on Allegri, this is a problem for the team and the board of directors, so they will try to find the source of the problem and restore their spirits. Their game against Torino could probably be one that will prove how, and how far they have recovered.

The problems that occur at Juventus are indeed quite complicated in my opinion, I also read some news saying that Juventus, which was going
through a financial crisis, couldn't afford to pay the compensation fee for being able to fire Allegri. It's sad if this is true, even though Juventus is
a big club in Serie A, they should have healthy finances. Maybe because of the pandemic situation and also Juventus, which has not won
the European competition trophy for a long time, this makes Juventus income continues to decline.

We'll see how Juventus perform against Torino, although the quality of Juventus players is better and Juventus performance is also slightly better
than Torino, but due to the poor results Juventus got in the last few games, it makes me doubt Juventus can get a positive result against Torino.
My prediction is that the Torino vs Juventus match will end in a draw, because it is very difficult for Juventus to win in the current state of Juventus
players confidence which is really falling, especially after Juventus were defeated by Maccabi Haifa.

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October 12, 2022, 06:50:20 PM
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Saturday 15th October
Empoli 14:00 Monza
Torino 17:00 Juventus
Atalanta 19:45 Sassuolo

Sunday 16th October
Inter Milan 11:30 Salernitana
Lazio 14:00 Udinese
Spezia 14:00 Cremonese
Napoli 17:00 Bologna
Verona 19:45 AC Milan

Monday 17th October
Sampdoria 17:30 Roma
Lecce 19:45 Fiorentina

No big games this week but the crucial game will be the derby, Juventus Torino.

Source: https://www.skysports.com/serie-a-fixtures

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October 12, 2022, 07:32:59 PM
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Lazio, Udinese, and Milan have the same points only Lazio is superior on goal difference. just like you too, I really salute the developments that occur in Lazio, they look amazing. ciro immobile closed Lazio's win by scoring 1 goal in the 91st minute, he is the top scorer in Serie A with 6 goals.
It's surprising to see the ranking of the class so far. This was beyond my guess before the season started. Juventus, Inter, Milan are off the beaten track. They were missing from the top 3.
Even Roma, who has a fairly good transfer, is playing unstable. It seems that the transfer market later should be used to improve the team's situation. Otherwise it is even possible that Inter, Milan, and Juventus will not qualify for the UCL next season.

AC Milan's performance is not bad. They are only 3 points behind Napoli. However, the performance of Inter Milan and Juventus was surprising. They are playing very badly. Inter Milan are now 8 points behind Napoli and Juventus are 10 points behind Napoli. I don't see any chance of these two teams fighting for the title. Inter Milan may want to qualify for the Champions League. On the other hand, I think Juventus will fail to qualify for the Champions League as well. Their performance is very bad now.

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October 12, 2022, 08:40:56 PM
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Lazio, Udinese, and Milan have the same points only Lazio is superior on goal difference. just like you too, I really salute the developments that occur in Lazio, they look amazing. ciro immobile closed Lazio's win by scoring 1 goal in the 91st minute, he is the top scorer in Serie A with 6 goals.
It's surprising to see the ranking of the class so far. This was beyond my guess before the season started. Juventus, Inter, Milan are off the beaten track. They were missing from the top 3.
Even Roma, who has a fairly good transfer, is playing unstable. It seems that the transfer market later should be used to improve the team's situation. Otherwise it is even possible that Inter, Milan, and Juventus will not qualify for the UCL next season.

AC Milan's performance is not bad. They are only 3 points behind Napoli. However, the performance of Inter Milan and Juventus was surprising. They are playing very badly. Inter Milan are now 8 points behind Napoli and Juventus are 10 points behind Napoli. I don't see any chance of these two teams fighting for the title. Inter Milan may want to qualify for the Champions League. On the other hand, I think Juventus will fail to qualify for the Champions League as well. Their performance is very bad now.
It seems that for now Inter want to focus on the Champions League at least until they qualify for the knockout phase because if you look at the performance in the Champions League it is clearly better than Serie A.
On the other hand, maybe their assumption is that in Serie A there is still enough time to catch up but this only applies to Inter because Juventus are currently still the clowns in the Champions League and in Serie A.

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October 12, 2022, 08:42:21 PM
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There is no problem with Milan's performance in the Serie A now. They have lost only once so far which was against Napoli. I have no doubt that they will stay in the title competition until the end of the season again. Their main target has always been the Serie A title and they finally achieved it after long years. But retaining it this season will be quite difficult for them. Especially Napoli seem to be the biggest threat for now. I haven't seen this much great start from them in the recent years. They are handling the league and CL great at the same time.

In case the CL story ends for Milan in the group stage, they would fully concentrate on the Serie A title. In that case I wonder how good Napoli will be able to deal with them while they are competing in the CL also. Maybe a tighter schedule might upset the balances in time but we'll see.

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October 12, 2022, 09:24:05 PM
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Napoli are probably favorable to win the scudetto this time around with their consistency in maintaining their winning streak. Not only in Seria A but also in the champions league, they're topping their table also. The Parthenopeans have good chemistry interms of team work and Luciano Spalleti give recording good results for the team. I don't see anything wrong with the team currently because they can play any big club in the champions league like thrashing Liverpool and Ajax, is a clear fact that they are ready to face anything coming to face them.
We shouldn't be too quick to jump the gun with it. I mean it is clear that they are trying to do the best they could, but that doesn't mean that we are going to see it neither. We may end up seeing them play amazingly, or we may end up seeing them playing horribly as well. This is why it’s easier to figure out what could be done with this in order to make a good return.

Personally Napoli should be focusing on not getting injured, because if they all stay healthy that is a good way of keep winning, being on a roll, they do not have much to focus on, so league should be first priority, if they can keep going like this, it would be amazing, but to do that they need to work hard and never get too confident.
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October 12, 2022, 09:46:23 PM
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No big games this week but the crucial game will be the derby, Juventus Torino.
It will be very crucial for Juventus and Massimiliano Allegri, it feels now like they may have one of their worst season in recent years, but they still have some time to start playing better and turn their bad performances into good results, this derby della Mole is so important for Juventus, though they start that game just a few days after they lost in a disappointing way to Maccabi Haifa in the champions league, so they may not be confident enough. The juventus owners are still backing the coach, but Massimiliano Allegri knows more bad results may leave the owners with no choice but to sack him.

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No big games this week but the crucial game will be the derby, Juventus Torino.
It will be very crucial for Juventus and Massimiliano Allegri, it feels now like they may have one of their worst season in recent years, but they still have some time to start playing better and turn their bad performances into good results, this derby della Mole is so important for Juventus, though they start that game just a few days after they lost in a disappointing way to Maccabi Haifa in the champions league, so they may not be confident enough. The juventus owners are still backing the coach, but Massimiliano Allegri knows more bad results may leave the owners with no choice but to sack him.

I hope they win but with their current condition it seems that winning is still very difficult.
Poor performances this season have clearly become something that is difficult to let go, especially in terms of the mentality of the players and this is of course another problem apart from Allegri's difficulties in providing the best scheme.
Now a victory should be something that is very mandatory for them because Torino is also in the last few matches still very difficult to develop the game.

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October 12, 2022, 10:35:17 PM
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It will be very crucial for Juventus and Massimiliano Allegri, it feels now like they may have one of their worst season in recent years, but they still have some time to start playing better and turn their bad performances into good results, this derby della Mole is so important for Juventus, though they start that game just a few days after they lost in a disappointing way to Maccabi Haifa in the champions league, so they may not be confident enough. The juventus owners are still backing the coach, but Massimiliano Allegri knows more bad results may leave the owners with no choice but to sack him.

Crucial not only for Allegri but also Juventus management keep giving another second chance again without sacking Allegri after bad performance from Juventus in this season. I don't think what ever match result later not really important for his position, actually losing from Maccabi Haifa on Champion League match most crucial because almost close opportunity can pass to 16 round.

Rumors about the amount of compensation that must be paid make Juventus president Andrea Agnelli at least still keep Allegri, perhaps this is one of the strong reasons why Allegri is still retained despite the crucial defeat of Maccabi Haifa in the champions league. Allegri received about 9 million euro each years and with his contract extended until June 2023 make Juventus take care before sacking Allegri from his position, need to pay above 18 million euro compensation needed if want to sack Allegri from Juventus manager.

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October 12, 2022, 11:08:08 PM
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Napoli are probably favorable to win the scudetto this time around with their consistency in maintaining their winning streak. Not only in Seria A but also in the champions league, they're topping their table also. The Parthenopeans have good chemistry interms of team work and Luciano Spalleti give recording good results for the team. I don't see anything wrong with the team currently because they can play any big club in the champions league like thrashing Liverpool and Ajax, is a clear fact that they are ready to face anything coming to face them.
If you look at their current condition obviously this will be very good but telling them to be champions in a match that has only been running for 9 weeks is obviously still too soon in my opinion especially we know that Serie A is one of the most difficult leagues to predict.
and specifically for Napoli they have been like this for the last few seasons at the start of the season so indeed I wouldn't be too surprised by them at the start of the season and wouldn't be surprised if their form dropped towards the end.

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October 12, 2022, 11:21:09 PM
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No big games this week but the crucial game will be the derby, Juventus Torino.
It will be very crucial for Juventus and Massimiliano Allegri, it feels now like they may have one of their worst season in recent years, but they still have some time to start playing better and turn their bad performances into good results, this derby della Mole is so important for Juventus, though they start that game just a few days after they lost in a disappointing way to Maccabi Haifa in the champions league, so they may not be confident enough. The juventus owners are still backing the coach, but Massimiliano Allegri knows more bad results may leave the owners with no choice but to sack him.

I don't even know if that was juventus owner but management was backing allegri due to the financial factor. It seems like management was thinking if juventus will face another lose and then it would not be affecting the team. It's very sad to see that from the juventus fan.
They may be feeling disappointed with their team about the decision to use allegri even longer as a coach

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October 12, 2022, 11:32:03 PM
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Crucial not only for Allegri but also Juventus management keep giving another second chance again without sacking Allegri after bad performance from Juventus in this season. I don't think what ever match result later not really important for his position, actually losing from Maccabi Haifa on Champion League match most crucial because almost close opportunity can pass to 16 round. Rumors about the amount of compensation that must be paid make Juventus president Andrea Agnelli at least still keep Allegri, perhaps this is one of the strong reasons why Allegri is still retained despite the crucial defeat of Maccabi Haifa in the champions league. Allegri received about 9 million euro each years and with his contract extended until June 2023 make Juventus take care before sacking Allegri from his position, need to pay above 18 million euro compensation needed if want to sack Allegri from Juventus manager.
In principle, although the worst has already happened and Juventus lost to Maccabi, the team still has chances to get out of its group and the match with Benfica becomes decisive. Another question is that even Juventus' victory in this match just leaves chances until the last round and Juventus will not only have to beat Paris Saint-Germain, but also expect Maccabi to repeat the miracle again and win now against Benfica at home. In general, expressing support for Allegri after losing the Maccabi match and making the chances of reaching the playoffs ephemeral, the Juventus management gave him a kind of indulgence almost before the winter break. Now the question is how Allegri will take advantage of this, what are the limits of patience and how terrible results Juventus should show in order for the club's management to dismiss the specialist.
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October 12, 2022, 11:59:19 PM
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It's surprising to see the ranking of the class so far. This was beyond my guess before the season started. Juventus, Inter, Milan are off the beaten track. They were missing from the top 3.
Even Roma, who has a fairly good transfer, is playing unstable. It seems that the transfer market later should be used to improve the team's situation. Otherwise it is even possible that Inter, Milan, and Juventus will not qualify for the UCL next season.
I agree Juventus and Inter performed very badly so far, and they seem to have no opportunity to compete for the title. But AC Milan looks not too bad, they are in 5th place and only have a difference of 3 points from Napoli which is leading the table now. I am sure AC Milan still has a chance to win, so they are still on the winning track.

Regarding AS Roma, there is still no significant improvement. If they still finish the season in 6th place, it means it is the same achievement as the last season. But although AS Roma is unstable, their new striker (Dybala) played quite well. It gives hope for AS Roma about the chance to improve their position.


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October 13, 2022, 12:07:45 AM
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It's surprising to see the ranking of the class so far. This was beyond my guess before the season started. Juventus, Inter, Milan are off the beaten track. They were missing from the top 3.
Even Roma, who has a fairly good transfer, is playing unstable. It seems that the transfer market later should be used to improve the team's situation. Otherwise it is even possible that Inter, Milan, and Juventus will not qualify for the UCL next season.
I agree Juventus and Inter performed very badly so far, and they seem to have no opportunity to compete for the title. But AC Milan looks not too bad, they are in 5th place and only have a difference of 3 points from Napoli which is leading the table now. I am sure AC Milan still has a chance to win, so they are still on the winning track.
If just Inter perform here like they do in Champions League, they will be in a better place! For Juve, I am pessimistic, nothing seems to be working well there..
Napoli is doing great so far in the other hand whether in CL or Serie A and I expect them to make a surprise if they can continue like that. 0 defeat after 9 rounds is impressive. For Milan, well, they are doing good also and might profit from a defeat of Napoli and Atalanta to jump in front of them.
This season is epic good and unpredictable Wink

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October 13, 2022, 12:39:48 AM
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I am very curious and waiting for the match between Lazio vs Udinese. because these two teams have really surprised me this season. because their performance is really surprising. even now Lazio is in 3rd position and Udinese is in 4th position in the standings. i will bet for udinese in that match. although Lazio can indeed have a chance to win. but after seeing Udinese able to hold Atalanta to a draw, it makes me quite sure of Udinese's performance.

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October 13, 2022, 02:04:11 AM
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I am very curious and waiting for the match between Lazio vs Udinese. because these two teams have really surprised me this season. because their performance is really surprising. even now Lazio is in 3rd position and Udinese is in 4th position in the standings. i will bet for udinese in that match. although Lazio can indeed have a chance to win. but after seeing Udinese able to hold Atalanta to a draw, it makes me quite sure of Udinese's performance.
I will put more into the lazio rather than udinese. Lazio got a good result from last match unlike udinese which was getting draw. I do believe if mentality from lazio is far better consider the result form last match was also boosting the mentaility from the lazio's player. It seems like lazio can win easily against udinese. Lazio has more win probability compared with udinese. that makes me think if lazio is a bit better although both have similar performance. It's pretty hard to predict before match will be started but i do believe about lazio will make lots of goals to the udinese.

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