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February 09, 2023, 02:47:04 PM
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But in real matches, the math can be wrong  Grin

Juventus have the opportunity to get ticket to UEL even though they failed to reach 4th place in the final standings this season. they must win the Coppa Italia. However, they should be able to beat Inter Milan in the Semi-Finals. This is the best chance for Juventus to go to UEL, if they fail in this match, it will be even more difficult for them to play at UEL next season because it wil depend on their final standing positions.

I agree with you, Juventus must succeed if they want to participate in the Champions League, which means prestige.. ok but it means MONEY and I'm not in a position to refuse this money
I don't understand what happens to the big teams, they all seem knackered

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February 09, 2023, 03:13:54 PM
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The gap to the last spot for Champions League is 13 points, 12 points for the Europa League, or mathematically it is about 4-5 matches win.
With the fact that there are still 17 matches to go, mathematically Juventus is still having the chance to catch the position but ofc it is hard.
What Juventus need to do now is to try to win all the remaining 17 matches and hoping for the other team above their current position losing many points.
It is not impossible to happen but really hard to happen unless there will be miracles for them.  Grin


But in real matches, the math can be wrong  Grin

Juventus have the opportunity to get ticket to UEL even though they failed to reach 4th place in the final standings this season. they must win the Coppa Italia. However, they should be able to beat Inter Milan in the Semi-Finals. This is the best chance for Juventus to go to UEL, if they fail in this match, it will be even more difficult for them to play at UEL next season because it wil depend on their final standing positions.

In the match between Juventus and Inter Milan in the semifinals of the Coppa Italia it might give a UEL ticket for Juventus when it is able to win both matches which will be titled next April, but Inter Milan I don't think is an easy opponent, what I see are these two teams have the same performance , maybe Juventus will need a more optimal performance to beat Inter Milan and get a UEL ticket, this is a good opportunity for Juventus if you want to win a UEL ticket.

Maybe to advance to the Champions League and have the opportunity to play 17 times and have to win in every meeting will be a little difficult to predict, this will be a long struggle for Juventus if you want to advance to the Champions. and we know that some of the teams above it are still running in consistent line of performance.

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February 09, 2023, 03:27:15 PM
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There is nothing we can expect from Juventus even if they win all the remaining matches I don't think it's enough to compete in Serie A, especially for Top 4
Juventus have to undergo this season without a target to reach the European League zone they are 12 points behind obviously it's not an easy situation
Juventus still have a chance to qualify for the Champions League if they become Europa League Champions. Now that's the only path they have to focus on if they want to qualify for the Champions League next season. But that's hard to happen when we look at other teams who are so strong playing in the Europa league.

juventus is indeed at the most difficult point in this season and it is even very natural that they go through this season's competition without any targets throughout the remaining Serie A matches this season. they can put in a lot of effort to win and win and that's the hope they have left. in two weeks Juventus will face Nantes in the europa league I think this is an important match for them to be able to qualify for the next round.

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Last edit: February 09, 2023, 03:41:24 PM by tranthidung
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Official: Nicolo Zaniolo sold to Galatasaray.

It is a bad decision from Zaniolo and like a step-down for his career. If he wanted to move to bigger club or bigger league, why he did not wait a few more months to leave a as a free agent. Moving to Galatasaray is a very weird choice from this dude.

I don't judge about his loyalty for Roma but he spent about one season with injuries and still got support from Roma. Important to say I believe with Roma and Mourinho, Zaniolo can develop his career better than with Galatasaray. I don't know why he rejected to move to Bournemouth and Premier League but finally decided to choose Galatasaray.

Anyway he left and it's time to wish him the best as well as recall his goal for Roma in UEFA Conference League final match in the last season.


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February 09, 2023, 03:40:19 PM
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"Juventus may face 20-point deduction for undeclared wage payments"

Now for everyone who thinks this is old news, this is actually on top of the deduction they recently received and is currently under investigation. It is sad because it shows that Juventus hasn't learnt a lot from the scandal back at the time when they were relegated into Serie B in 2006 or so.
Damn, another points deduction, if Juventus losing another points because of sanctions, so Juventus will be on the bottom of standing with 3 points, relegation awaiting for Juventus. Hopefully their wages payments report are valid, so they will not losing another points, but if they are proven sending fake reports, with 3 points maybe making them more hard to compete. Lucky for them, since the current bottom points is 8, 10 and 14 pts, Juve should be able to passed it (in case juventus get -20pts)

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February 09, 2023, 03:41:50 PM
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The gap to the last spot for Champions League is 13 points, 12 points for the Europa League, or mathematically it is about 4-5 matches win.
With the fact that there are still 17 matches to go, mathematically Juventus is still having the chance to catch the position but ofc it is hard.
What Juventus need to do now is to try to win all the remaining 17 matches and hoping for the other team above their current position losing many points.
It is not impossible to happen but really hard to happen unless there will be miracles for them.  Grin


But in real matches, the math can be wrong  Grin

Juventus have the opportunity to get ticket to UEL even though they failed to reach 4th place in the final standings this season. they must win the Coppa Italia. However, they should be able to beat Inter Milan in the Semi-Finals. This is the best chance for Juventus to go to UEL, if they fail in this match, it will be even more difficult for them to play at UEL next season because it wil depend on their final standing positions.
They could have gone to the Champions League, but they have to win the Europa League so they will automatically be able to compete in the Champions League next season. But it's not easy to do that, they need to work very hard because in the Europa League itself the competition will be very tight considering that several big clubs will also be there. Maybe in this round it will be easy for them to win because they will face Nantes who are no better than them, but in the next round the challenge will be even more real because they will definitely meet other favorite clubs.

If the goal is the Champions League, wouldn't it be better for them to take the Serie A League path. The challenge is that they have to break into the top four with time remaining in the current Serie A.. The challenge is no less difficult than those they will face in the Europa League
The advantage, besides appear in the Champions League, they will also be closer to the Serie A title which is Juventus' ambition

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February 09, 2023, 03:45:40 PM
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The gap to the last spot for Champions League is 13 points, 12 points for the Europa League, or mathematically it is about 4-5 matches win.
With the fact that there are still 17 matches to go, mathematically Juventus is still having the chance to catch the position but ofc it is hard.
What Juventus need to do now is to try to win all the remaining 17 matches and hoping for the other team above their current position losing many points.
It is not impossible to happen but really hard to happen unless there will be miracles for them.  Grin


But in real matches, the math can be wrong  Grin

Juventus have the opportunity to get ticket to UEL even though they failed to reach 4th place in the final standings this season. they must win the Coppa Italia. However, they should be able to beat Inter Milan in the Semi-Finals. This is the best chance for Juventus to go to UEL, if they fail in this match, it will be even more difficult for them to play at UEL next season because it wil depend on their final standing positions.
They could have gone to the Champions League, but they have to win the Europa League so they will automatically be able to compete in the Champions League next season. But it's not easy to do that, they need to work very hard because in the Europa League itself the competition will be very tight considering that several big clubs will also be there. Maybe in this round it will be easy for them to win because they will face Nantes who are no better than them, but in the next round the challenge will be even more real because they will definitely meet other favorite clubs.

If the goal is the Champions League, wouldn't it be better for them to take the Serie A League path. The challenge is that they have to break into the top four with time remaining in the current Serie A.. The challenge is no less difficult than those they will face in the Europa League
The advantage, besides appear in the Champions League, they will also be closer to the Serie A title which is Juventus' ambition
I don't see much chance for Juventus this season. I don't see the performance of the team like before. Juventus need some young attacking players in their squad. Also, hope for some innovation in the team.

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February 09, 2023, 03:53:04 PM
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Even though it doesn't look special, this victory is important for Juventus to increase the morality of the players who feel something uncomfortable by receiving sanctions. They are still inconsistent I agree with that, but if they didn't get penalized they would still be at the top right now, and not have to be standing where they are.
Even though it is very difficult, they still have a great chance to be back in a position at least in the top 5 in the standings, so they cannot give up what they have experienced.
Yes, if Juventus don't get punished then of course Juventus will be a serious team in competing for the title. But with Juventus getting punished, it looks like it will also be a smooth road for Napoli because there is no longer a team that seriously threatens their position at the top of the standings.
But in terms of Juventus, if Juventus manage to finish in the top five or at least in the top six, for me that is already a great achievement and I hope Juventus can do that and start again to get points in every game.

Juventus won against a team which is almost in the relegation zone. So this is not supposed to look very special for Juventus. Added of course, it is going to be really hard for them to get back into the top four this season. It is going to be actually very hard for them to even get back to the top six because the point difference between Juventus and the team which is in the sixth position is basically 12 points. So that is not easy at all to get over. But if Juventus can somehow make it to the top six with at least 6 or 7 games remaining, they will have a really good chance of finishing in the second position.

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February 09, 2023, 04:13:39 PM
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The gap to the last spot for Champions League is 13 points, 12 points for the Europa League, or mathematically it is about 4-5 matches win.
With the fact that there are still 17 matches to go, mathematically Juventus is still having the chance to catch the position but ofc it is hard.
What Juventus need to do now is to try to win all the remaining 17 matches and hoping for the other team above their current position losing many points.
It is not impossible to happen but really hard to happen unless there will be miracles for them.  Grin


But in real matches, the math can be wrong  Grin

Juventus have the opportunity to get ticket to UEL even though they failed to reach 4th place in the final standings this season. they must win the Coppa Italia. However, they should be able to beat Inter Milan in the Semi-Finals. This is the best chance for Juventus to go to UEL, if they fail in this match, it will be even more difficult for them to play at UEL next season because it wil depend on their final standing positions.

If everything goes aright for Juventus your calculation is true, but if this also becomes reality Juventus is totally screwed:

"Juventus may face 20-point deduction for undeclared wage payments"

Now for everyone who thinks this is old news, this is actually on top of the deduction they recently received and is currently under investigation. It is sad because it shows that Juventus hasn't learnt a lot from the scandal back at the time when they were relegated into Serie B in 2006 or so.
Recent suspicions that Juventus made undisclosed payroll payments are really distressing to hear. This might have serious ramifications for the club, and I can only image how the players and supporters feel right now.

If the 20-point punishment is truly enforced, it would be a big setback for Juventus, who has already suffered a 3-point deduction this season. This circumstance raises doubts about the club's administration and whether or not they have learnt previous controversies that led to their relegation to Serie B in the past. It will be crucial for Juventus to move swiftly and properly in order to handle this matter, since it might have a significant influence on the team's future.

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February 09, 2023, 04:29:54 PM
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Juventus won against a team which is almost in the relegation zone. So this is not supposed to look very special for Juventus. Added of course, it is going to be really hard for them to get back into the top four this season. It is going to be actually very hard for them to even get back to the top six because the point difference between Juventus and the team which is in the sixth position is basically 12 points. So that is not easy at all to get over. But if Juventus can somehow make it to the top six with at least 6 or 7 games remaining, they will have a really good chance of finishing in the second position.
Maybe the deduction of 15 point from the club and the drop for being the top 4 to now being in the bottom four has become a motivation for Juventus. In this game against Salernitana, they put concertation, attention, they had the right approach, and I notice Di Maria's desire to help his teammates.
So many shots he would have taken on his own but decided to pass it to his teammates who performed superbly. The question that begs for an answer is that is there a chance that they can regain their position at the top?
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February 09, 2023, 04:51:43 PM
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"Juventus may face 20-point deduction for undeclared wage payments"

Now for everyone who thinks this is old news, this is actually on top of the deduction they recently received and is currently under investigation. It is sad because it shows that Juventus hasn't learnt a lot from the scandal back at the time when they were relegated into Serie B in 2006 or so.
Damn, another points deduction, if Juventus losing another points because of sanctions, so Juventus will be on the bottom of standing with 3 points, relegation awaiting for Juventus. Hopefully their wages payments report are valid, so they will not losing another points, but if they are proven sending fake reports, with 3 points maybe making them more hard to compete. Lucky for them, since the current bottom points is 8, 10 and 14 pts, Juve should be able to passed it (in case juventus get -20pts)
It would be back-to-back blows to land in their face if that proved and they would have to accept a penalty that would have left them bottom of the table and in danger of relegation. I don't understand why they can do that, I mean the news that is currently circulating has a clear reason and also the suspicions against them are getting thicker. It's only right that a team as big as Juventus doesn't do anything that will harm them in the future regarding anything, including the news they do, they have to be accountable for.

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February 09, 2023, 06:16:23 PM
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AC Milan will protect Torino in Serie A this week, the problem now is that AC Milan is in a negative trend with even 5 matches without a win, while Torino, who will be their opponent this time, is a team that cannot be underestimated. In the standings, Torino is right below them with a difference of 8 points. It will be a difficult match for AC Milan, will they continue with the negative trend or can they stop their bad run in this match?

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February 09, 2023, 06:26:08 PM
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AC Milan will protect Torino in Serie A this week, the problem now is that AC Milan is in a negative trend with even 5 matches without a win, while Torino, who will be their opponent this time, is a team that cannot be underestimated. In the standings, Torino is right below them with a difference of 8 points. It will be a difficult match for AC Milan, will they continue with the negative trend or can they stop their bad run in this match?
Honestly i have been displeased by ac milan performance this season, having just won the title last season and now they are struggling even to share the point in most of their matches. This ac milan side use to be a team where i can boldly put my money on especially when they are hosting at the san siro and i normally  trust on them  when Picking  parley selection in my account. But inconsistency have left them at nearly the bottom end of the top half of the league table.

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February 09, 2023, 06:40:18 PM
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AC Milan will protect Torino in Serie A this week, the problem now is that AC Milan is in a negative trend with even 5 matches without a win, while Torino, who will be their opponent this time, is a team that cannot be underestimated. In the standings, Torino is right below them with a difference of 8 points. It will be a difficult match for AC Milan, will they continue with the negative trend or can they stop their bad run in this match?

AC Milan, I'm sure, will be better prepared to face and defeat Torino this time around. Even after winning the league title last season, their inconsistency this season has taken a toll on them. They'll give it their all to win this game but Torino can’t be underestimated either haven known about AC Milan’s lack of inconsistency in the league. I hope they end there negative trend in the league at the end of this match.

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February 09, 2023, 06:45:04 PM
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AC Milan will protect Torino in Serie A this week, the problem now is that AC Milan is in a negative trend with even 5 matches without a win, while Torino, who will be their opponent this time, is a team that cannot be underestimated. In the standings, Torino is right below them with a difference of 8 points. It will be a difficult match for AC Milan, will they continue with the negative trend or can they stop their bad run in this match?
Honestly i have been displeased by ac milan performance this season, having just won the title last season and now they are struggling even to share the point in most of their matches. This ac milan side use to be a team where i can boldly put my money on especially when they are hosting at the san siro and i normally  trust on them  when Picking  parley selection in my account. But inconsistency have left them at nearly the bottom end of the top half of the league table.

It's a shame that Milan lost their best form so quickly, and I thought Milan would be able to recover quickly but it seems that Milan have indeed lost their best performance at this moment. Also, Torino is not a weak team because in fact, in the first match or first leg this season Torino can beat Milan with a score of 2-1.
Therefore, I think this match will still be difficult for Milan to get full points, but even so, at least Milan still has a chance to end the match with a draw result.

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February 09, 2023, 07:18:27 PM
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Maybe the deduction of 15 point from the club and the drop for being the top 4 to now being in the bottom four has become a motivation for Juventus. In this game against Salernitana, they put concertation, attention, they had the right approach, and I notice Di Maria's desire to help his teammates.
So many shots he would have taken on his own but decided to pass it to his teammates who performed superbly. The question that begs for an answer is that is there a chance that they can regain their position at the top?

For any club or team, it is going to be a very big deal if 15 points are taken away from them. But it is good to say that Juventus are still trying to actually salvage something. They are still trying to perform at their best. And it is obviously going to have a psychological effect on the mindset of the players and also probably the coach as well. But they cannot do anything. They will have to put these things behind them and concentrate on performing better. I think the first target of Juventus is going to be somehow decreasing the point gap between the team that is in the 5th position and them.

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February 09, 2023, 07:38:45 PM
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AC Milan, I'm sure, will be better prepared to face and defeat Torino this time around. Even after winning the league title last season, their inconsistency this season has taken a toll on them. They'll give it their all to win this game but Torino can’t be underestimated either haven known about AC Milan’s lack of inconsistency in the league. I hope they end there negative trend in the league at the end of this match.
I saw a lot of negative news about Ac milan, one of which was the news that Stefano Pioli was in danger of being fired if he failed to bring Ac milan back to winning ways. One strong reason is because Ac milan is the defending champion and they performed quite well in the first half of the season but entering the second half of the season ac milan performance dropped quite drastically. This is what makes fans quite disappointed with Ac milan's performance because they have lost a lot of points in vain in the several matches they have played.

In the match against Torino, Stefano Pioli is expected to be able to rotate AC Milan playing scheme either from the front or midfield because this can make the balance of performance return to a better direction.

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February 09, 2023, 08:02:42 PM
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I saw a lot of negative news about Ac milan, one of which was the news that Stefano Pioli was in danger of being fired if he failed to bring Ac milan back to winning ways. One strong reason is because Ac milan is the defending champion and they performed quite well in the first half of the season but entering the second half of the season ac milan performance dropped quite drastically. This is what makes fans quite disappointed with Ac milan's performance because they have lost a lot of points in vain in the several matches they have played.

In the match against Torino, Stefano Pioli is expected to be able to rotate AC Milan playing scheme either from the front or midfield because this can make the balance of performance return to a better direction.
It would be a natural consequence for Stefano Pioli if he failed to bring good competition for Milan this season, and yes he might be sacked if he failed.
Milan had won the title last season, but their recent form has been really bad where they have dropped points quite easily. Milan struggled to win matches and then they lost badly in their last 3 matches with a total of 10 goals conceded.

So it's true, Stefano Pioli is under great pressure following Milan's current poor performance. Without a win in the last 5 matches, Milan has failed to maintain its position in the standings. Meanwhile, the difference in points with Lazio and Atalanta is not far away, so there is a chance to return to the top 4 and qualify for the Champions League the following season.

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February 09, 2023, 08:15:19 PM
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I watched the Salernitana - Juventus match and there were really positive things about the away team. It made me a little more hopeful about Juventus' future.

But of course it isn't ideal to think like that depending on only this match. I can say Juventus played a well-organized game. They were creating really nice opportunities by good passes. Vlahovic was the most effective player of the team of course. He made a funny assist also.  Grin  While he was trying to shoot he made an assist inadvertently. Salernitana defense was really weak and they couldn't answer with any proper attack also. There were two shots of Juventus which hit the goal post otherwise this score would have been bigger.

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February 09, 2023, 08:32:49 PM
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I watched the Salernitana - Juventus match and there were really positive things about the away team. It made me a little more hopeful about Juventus' future.

But of course it isn't ideal to think like that depending on only this match. I can say Juventus played a well-organized game. They were creating really nice opportunities by good passes. Vlahovic was the most effective player of the team of course. He made a funny assist also.  Grin  While he was trying to shoot he made an assist inadvertently. Salernitana defense was really weak and they couldn't answer with any proper attack also. There were two shots of Juventus which hit the goal post otherwise this score would have been bigger.
It was a win that should have been for Juventus, and I don't think they should loss points to Salernitana.
There were some doubts about Juventus due to their lack of form, but they have answered that with a maximum of 3 points at the Arechi Stadium. It was a much expected win having lost 8 points before the match against Salernitana.

And now, Juventus must force himself to play well for the rest of the season and try to win a ticket to another competition next season. They're not in a good position yet to be hoped for, but they have the opportunity to continue to improve.

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