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February 21, 2023, 12:19:38 PM
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I think Conte will not return to Juventus, even though the current Juventus president is no longer held by Andrea Agnelli who had problems with Conte some time ago, at that time Conte was still the coach of Inter Milan and many Juventus fans were disappointed with Conte's decision to coach  Rivalry Juventus, namely Inter Milan, from this incident that Conte at the end of the Juventus vs Inter Milan match a few years ago was caught holding the middle finger at the President of Juventus, so it seems impossible for Conte to handle Juventus again.

It looks like the candidates who deserve to be the next Juventus Coach, Zinedine Zidane and Alex Sandro Del Piero, there are already rumors that the two of them will be paired to train Juventus, because currently Juventus coach Massimiliano Allegri has been rumored to leave Juventus, because the fans  Juventus no longer want Massimiliano Allegri to coach Juventus, who have often lost and been inconsistent in every match.

There is still a chance for Conte to return, Calciomercato says that Conte will be the main choice compared to Zidane. Juventus are also reportedly open to negotiations with Conte. This is as reported by Juvefc.com.
https://www.juvefc.com/conte-remains-juventus-favourite-to-replace-allegri/


Del Piero has no coaching experience yet, it would be risky if Juventus made the decision to appoint Del Piero, we remember how Pirlo with Juventus, he failed as a coach. Even though it doesn't mean Del Piero will be a bad coach, but with Juventus current condition, they should appoint a coach who has better experience, be it Conte or Zidane.

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February 21, 2023, 12:37:36 PM
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Match between Torino and cremonese, Torino has played 4 shots on target so far after 74 minutes of play, they have intensify attack with a good ball possession and total completed pass accuracy but away side has played 2shots on target with 2 goals recorded, the visiting team has shown good play with good result despite that this match might not favour them, they have shown a good outplay.
Cremonese cracked Torino's defense, they didn't try really hard to attack and they managed to score two, unlike Torino who took the possession of the ball throughout the match and managed to score as much as cremonese scored against them, Torino are lucky to get out of this match with a draw, because Cremonese surprised them with a comeback in the 2nd half.
The problem is maybe they realize that if they are too insistent to keep up with Torino's game then the result will be a little different.
Cremonese rely on counter-attacks and indeed that's all they can do because if they match Torino it will actually be very difficult with Torino possession and much superior chances.
This result is actually still good, it's just that this doesn't have any impact on them in the standings.

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February 21, 2023, 12:50:33 PM
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Match between AC milan and Atlanta, after the international break Atlanta has been in form but currently they are not consistent in their performance so this match is very unpredictable but if the head to head record is to be considered the home team has won 3 times, away 1 and 1 draw out of the 5 meetings but the host team is also considered  to be in mixed form, this match outcome will be survival of the fittest.
one of the matches that I am looking forward to is this match, namely Milan vs Atalanta. because in the last meeting between Atalanta and Milan. the match ended in a draw. so I think right now I want to see which team will be better in this match. although in fact Milan will be favored for being the host. However, both Atalanta and Milan are sometimes inconsistent. so the outcome of the game is indeed a little difficult to predict.
The match between Milan and Atalanta will be one of the toughest matches. Both teams have a goal of going to the champions league and their scores are very close to each other. This match gains more importance as the scores are close. The winning team will outrun their opponent. Milan are considered favorites as they will play at San Siro. I think the match will be a draw.

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February 21, 2023, 12:52:43 PM
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Milan will face Atlanta in the next match and this match will probably break Milan's two consecutive wins because even though Atlanta has just lost to Lecce they will still struggle for a place in European competition next season so Milan must be wary of Atlanta who can beat them even with thin score.
It's very hard to know which team that potentially win the match, atalanta is also having very bad record as well as ac milan. Atalanta can comeback stronger. Milan may become my main pick in this match but i think also atlanta has chances to win against milan.



The head to head between milan against atalanta didn't impress me if milan is superior compared with atalanta. Atalanta was almost equal as milan. I think that risking money to pick milan is worthy enough. It's caused by milan's odd was 2.20 and atalanta will be playing away.

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February 21, 2023, 02:07:01 PM
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Milan will face Atlanta in the next match and this match will probably break Milan's two consecutive wins because even though Atlanta has just lost to Lecce they will still struggle for a place in European competition next season so Milan must be wary of Atlanta who can beat them even with thin score.
It's very hard to know which team that potentially win the match, atalanta is also having very bad record as well as ac milan. Atalanta can comeback stronger. Milan may become my main pick in this match but i think also atlanta has chances to win against milan.



The head to head between milan against atalanta didn't impress me if milan is superior compared with atalanta. Atalanta was almost equal as milan. I think that risking money to pick milan is worthy enough. It's caused by milan's odd was 2.20 and atalanta will be playing away.
Indeed, it is very difficult to predict that the same team will have a pretty good performance this season. AC Milan's winning record in the statistical picture above is also quite good, but if I want to bet, I will definitely bet on AC Milan, not only because they are the host but currently AC Milan has pretty good match results and that can be a good capital against Atalanta at the San Siro stadium later. I think the score prediction will end 1-0 for AC Milan's victory.

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February 21, 2023, 03:48:45 PM
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Indeed, it is very difficult to predict that the same team will have a pretty good performance this season. AC Milan's winning record in the statistical picture above is also quite good, but if I want to bet, I will definitely bet on AC Milan, not only because they are the host but currently AC Milan has pretty good match results and that can be a good capital against Atalanta at the San Siro stadium later. I think the score prediction will end 1-0 for AC Milan's victory.

Ac Milan got more luck against Atlanta and this is what you see if you check the Serie A league because Ac Milan got more luck to be on the top teams of the table while Atalanta is just in the middle and if you check the previous games from these two games you can see Ac Milan obviously performed better than Atlanta and they are surly going to start the game hoping for a victory which can be a safe bet for this game considering the AC Milan recent games.

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Match between Torino and cremonese, Torino has played 4 shots on target so far after 74 minutes of play, they have intensify attack with a good ball possession and total completed pass accuracy but away side has played 2shots on target with 2 goals recorded, the visiting team has shown good play with good result despite that this match might not favour them, they have shown a good outplay.
Cremonese cracked Torino's defense, they didn't try really hard to attack and they managed to score two, unlike Torino who took the possession of the ball throughout the match and managed to score as much as cremonese scored against them, Torino are lucky to get out of this match with a draw, because Cremonese surprised them with a comeback in the 2nd half.
I think it's about being ready for a game. Torino didn't look like they were ready and thought they could get a win, whereas Cremonese looked like they were aware that they will be fighting against a team that looked much better than them and would have a bit of a hard time so they trained hard to win this game and not just train as in going out on a field and play, but more like they watched game tape and learned how they should be playing against Torino as well.

This allowed them to win this game because they knew how Torino plays and they were ready with their responses when something happened, which is how they managed to score and get a tie in this game.

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February 21, 2023, 04:09:46 PM
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Milan will face Atlanta in the next match and this match will probably break Milan's two consecutive wins because even though Atlanta has just lost to Lecce they will still struggle for a place in European competition next season so Milan must be wary of Atlanta who can beat them even with thin score.
It's very hard to know which team that potentially win the match, atalanta is also having very bad record as well as ac milan. Atalanta can comeback stronger. Milan may become my main pick in this match but i think also atlanta has chances to win against milan.



The head to head between milan against atalanta didn't impress me if milan is superior compared with atalanta. Atalanta was almost equal as milan. I think that risking money to pick milan is worthy enough. It's caused by milan's odd was 2.20 and atalanta will be playing away.
Indeed, it is very difficult to predict that the same team will have a pretty good performance this season. AC Milan's winning record in the statistical picture above is also quite good, but if I want to bet, I will definitely bet on AC Milan, not only because they are the host but currently AC Milan has pretty good match results and that can be a good capital against Atalanta at the San Siro stadium later. I think the score prediction will end 1-0 for AC Milan's victory.

AC Milan leads the stats. But Milan is not far ahead. But betting on statistics is foolish. I think the teams should bet according to their recent status. The performance of the Atalanta team is now very erratic. They are not winning consistently. The team also lost in the last match against a weak team like Lecce. AC Milan on the other hand has been performing pretty consistently well in their last few matches. Milan has won their last 3 matches against Torino, Tottenham, and Monza. I think the Milan team will be able to maintain this consistency. Milan will win against Atalanta. Milan has a chance to win 1-0 or 2-1.



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February 21, 2023, 04:36:06 PM
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Cremonese who are stuck in last place in the standings list, are still unable to win a single victory this season, it will be difficult for Cremonese to survive in Serie A after not being able to provide competition since the start of the season. The threat of relegation seems unavoidable, Cremonese seems to have difficulty getting out of the relegation zone due to being 10 behind Spezia who is in 17th place. One point won at Torino headquarters does not mean anything for Cremonese, while Torino failed to improve its ranking from the draw they just won, now Torino is in 9th place with a score of 31 points.
Cremonese will not have a chance next season. after the 23rd game, they still haven't got a victory point, of course, that's a bad thing. they won't be able to get out of the relegation zone, it won't be easy for them because they lose financially and also they lose players. still too fast to compete with other Serie A clubs. Cremonese seems to have only been used as entertainment this season for other teams.
A draw is a good achievement for Cremonese on the Serie A stage, from the 23 matches that have been played they have never won. an additional 1 point at home to Torino still hasn't been able to bring Cremonese to improve its ranking, the points Cremonese have collected are still too far from catching up with Verona who are ranked 18th. Cremonese are still not ready to compete in Serie A, with sober player material making them a source of points for other teams. Of the three teams that will be relegated, Cremonese is one of them.

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February 21, 2023, 06:43:06 PM
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Indeed, it is very difficult to predict that the same team will have a pretty good performance this season. AC Milan's winning record in the statistical picture above is also quite good, but if I want to bet, I will definitely bet on AC Milan, not only because they are the host but currently AC Milan has pretty good match results and that can be a good capital against Atalanta at the San Siro stadium later. I think the score prediction will end 1-0 for AC Milan's victory.

Ac Milan got more luck against Atlanta and this is what you see if you check the Serie A league because Ac Milan got more luck to be on the top teams of the table while Atalanta is just in the middle and if you check the previous games from these two games you can see Ac Milan obviously performed better than Atlanta and they are surly going to start the game hoping for a victory which can be a safe bet for this game considering the AC Milan recent games.

Atalanta is not a weak team and Atalanta is not easy to beat even though, in head to head it can be seen that Milan is still better. But if I consider the performance of Milan and Atalanta so far this season, then I conclude that Atalanta is still better.
Also, in terms of the number of goals and also the number of goals conceded by Milan and Atalanta so far this season, in fact Atalanta is better than Milan.

Therefore, I personally don't believe that Milan will beat Atalanta at this moment, because so far this season Atalanta is also very good when Atalanta play away. So yes, I personally am quite sure that Atalanta will not lose, a draw and or Atalanta win for me it can be a decent result in this match.

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February 21, 2023, 07:26:38 PM
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It is very hard to really ascertain the outcome of the match between Atlanta and AC Milan because currently both teams are not really consistent but for sure we should expect multiple goals in this encounter, in the last match between Atlanta and Lecce it comes as a surprise to somany persons seeing the home team conceiving defeat to Lecce after winning Lazio in their previous match, the both team head to head record favours AC Milan but anything is possible in this match.
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Atalanta is not a weak team and Atalanta is not easy to beat even though, in head to head it can be seen that Milan is still better. But if I consider the performance of Milan and Atalanta so far this season, then I conclude that Atalanta is still better.
Also, in terms of the number of goals and also the number of goals conceded by Milan and Atalanta so far this season, in fact Atalanta is better than Milan.

Therefore, I personally don't believe that Milan will beat Atalanta at this moment, because so far this season Atalanta is also very good when Atalanta play away. So yes, I personally am quite sure that Atalanta will not lose, a draw and or Atalanta win for me it can be a decent result in this match.

Agreed, Aralanta is not a weak team because if they were a weak team they could never be in this position at the table instead they were in a danger zone fighting at bottom of the table, but all I say is considering the recent games from these two team and considering the recent matches where these two teams faced each other I can say AC Milan can beat Atalanta and if they fail to beat Atalanta they will have problem with racing on the league with other teams on top of the table.

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February 21, 2023, 08:19:06 PM
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I also heard other news where Napoli will not let go of Osimhen for next season because he has contributed a lot to his team now, so he will maintain it until whenever he says.
We don't know what will happen later in the summer anything can happen with many offers later and including Osimhen's attitude whether he will accept a proposal from another club or will stay with Napoli.
To be honest if he stays with Napoli then he will continue to show his best performance.
Yeah it would be cool if he stays actually, so he could prove that not only Juventus and duo Milano could dominate Serie A, but also Napoli, which people wouldn't claim it as just one-season wonder.


Osimhen's contract expires in 2025. This makes it a bit more complicated than just saying that Napoli can wait until the contract expires. The longer the contract runs and the better a players plays, the higher is the transfer fee you can ask for. I think there will be a lot going on this upcoming Summer when when it comes to Osimhen. He is just 24 and the wealthy clubs would be willing to pay a lot for him perhaps. What are you going to do then if you are Napoli? Maybe it also depends on their success in the Champions League. If they make a lot of money in that competition they could also be able to refuse big offers.
Actually the longer contract runs, the smaller transfer fee Napoli can ask for. That's why usually if a player wants to move to other team, he will wait until he has at least 1-2 years remaining in his contract, so his transfer fee would be cheaper. Napoli might hard to reject big amount of money but for Osimhen himself, a big transfer money will get him burdened, especially if he decides to move to Premier League, where media always keeping an eye on big transfer players. Both of Napoli and Osimhen sides having a great time this season and it would be a waste if they decide to separate next season.

No, you are wrong. If you have a player under contract for five years and another club wants him really badly, the club has to pay for it a lot of money. If the contract expires in one year, the club really wanting that player offers you a smaller fee or just waits for the contract to expire.

The one who really benefits from a contract that is about to expire is the player himself because he can ask for a massive signing fee. A club who has a long contract with a player can have all the patience in the world unless another club comes and puts a huge bag of money on the table. That's different when the contract is just one year because the club owning the player can decide to either let him go for zero next year or get some money this year.

Not sure why you think that the transfer fee is smaller when a contract is longer...

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February 21, 2023, 08:30:10 PM
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Napoli scored 56 goals in 23 games, half of them were scored by Osimhen and Kvaratskhelia (28 goals) together!
We all know Osimhen but Kvaratskhelia not only scared 10 goals but he had also 9 assists.
BTW Napoli is playing right now vs Frankfurt in Champions League and the result is still 0-0 in the first 30 minutes of the game.

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February 21, 2023, 08:34:40 PM
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It is very hard to really ascertain the outcome of the match between Atlanta and AC Milan because currently both teams are not really consistent but for sure we should expect multiple goals in this encounter, in the last match between Atlanta and Lecce it comes as a surprise to somany persons seeing the home team conceiving defeat to Lecce after winning Lazio in their previous match, the both team head to head record favours AC Milan but anything is possible in this match.

I think it's an easy bet on Milan as they have three wins in their last three games and look like they're coming out of a crisis, plus it's going to be a home game for them. Atalanta, on the contrary, seems to be entering a crisis and can lose even to a weak team (Sassuolo, Lecce). And I'm not sure that there will be many goals in this game. Milan will win 1-0, 2-0 something like that.

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February 21, 2023, 08:39:41 PM
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Milan will face Atlanta in the next match and this match will probably break Milan's two consecutive wins because even though Atlanta has just lost to Lecce they will still struggle for a place in European competition next season so Milan must be wary of Atlanta who can beat them even with thin score.
It's very hard to know which team that potentially win the match, atalanta is also having very bad record as well as ac milan. Atalanta can comeback stronger. Milan may become my main pick in this match but i think also atlanta has chances to win against milan.



The head to head between milan against atalanta didn't impress me if milan is superior compared with atalanta. Atalanta was almost equal as milan. I think that risking money to pick milan is worthy enough. It's caused by milan's odd was 2.20 and atalanta will be playing away.
By looking at the current conditions, I actually don't think this statistic will have much effect if you look at the current performance.
The conditions remain the same, Milan is still struggling a little this season. On the other hand, Atalanta is also starting to experience a decline in performance and this is a little troublesome for them.
What I hope is that this will be an exciting and not monotonous match.

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February 21, 2023, 08:46:21 PM
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Milan are favoured to beat Atalanta for their match ahead in five days. Playing the match in San Siro is an advantage for Milan of course. But I still have doubts about their defending style especially. There are still visible weaknesses in their defense. We saw it in the Monza match as well even though Milan won the match. If they really can't figure out a way to fix their defensive issues yet then they should focus on increasing the number of goals they score in a match.

You know how much drop they have in their scoring performance as well. They won their last two matches maybe but both of them ended 1-0. I hope to see Milan being more productive against Atalanta and getting a win.

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February 21, 2023, 09:26:01 PM
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Actually the longer contract runs, the smaller transfer fee Napoli can ask for. That's why usually if a player wants to move to other team, he will wait until he has at least 1-2 years remaining in his contract, so his transfer fee would be cheaper. Napoli might hard to reject big amount of money but for Osimhen himself, a big transfer money will get him burdened, especially if he decides to move to Premier League, where media always keeping an eye on big transfer players. Both of Napoli and Osimhen sides having a great time this season and it would be a waste if they decide to separate next season.

No, you are wrong. If you have a player under contract for five years and another club wants him really badly, the club has to pay for it a lot of money. If the contract expires in one year, the club really wanting that player offers you a smaller fee or just waits for the contract to expire.

The one who really benefits from a contract that is about to expire is the player himself because he can ask for a massive signing fee. A club who has a long contract with a player can have all the patience in the world unless another club comes and puts a huge bag of money on the table. That's different when the contract is just one year because the club owning the player can decide to either let him go for zero next year or get some money this year.

Not sure why you think that the transfer fee is smaller when a contract is longer...

I get your point, but that's wrong at all. Not sure where did you get that theory. First of all, let's separate the remaining contract duration and the desire of the wanting club on the player as the key aspects on football transfer. As I believe that we are discussing the second one, then we can ignore the desire of the interested team. So, imagine if in your team, there is one player who has 1 remaining season left in his contract. It means that in the next season, he can leave the club for free. Then, instead of getting 0$ in the next year from this player, you could get some good amount of money by selling him with fair fee. Because of what? Yeah if you keep putting high cost on this player, the interested teams will just wait until the player contract expired in next season. Why you risk of not getting any pennies by putting high price on a player whose contract about to expire next year?

Let me give you an example. Shinji Kagawa, brought by Man Utd from Dortmund with a bargain fee, afaik it was under $20M, while his value was higher at that time. But since his contract about to expire, Dortmund had no other choice except getting fair money by letting Kagawa go. That's also happened because Fergie didn't want him that bad. That means it's okay at all if Man Utd failed to sign Kagawa, so the situation favored Man Utd.

And now, finally the aspect that support your opinion, the desire of the interested team on a player. The fact is, that team dont care about how many year left on the player contract, as long as they can bring him, especially when they have strong financial support. But if we talk about the remaining contract duration alone, no, the less remaining contract duration, the lower transfer fee. You can read this journal paper for reference; Econometric Approach to Assessing the Transfer Fees and Values of Professional Football Players. It's not related directly to our main discussion but there are interesting points mentioned there about transfer fee.




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February 21, 2023, 09:55:25 PM
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Exactly, now Napoli are 2 goals ahead and the match will end in less than 5 minutes exactly as we predicted
Napoli did not give Sassuolo a chance they stay focused chasing every point even though they are actually safe in the standings
If Napoli loses one game obviously it didn't really affect their position because the difference in points is quite safe.
Yeah, it has been clear that Serie A seems like having had the winner of the trophy because no other club will have the chance. They are now focusing on the UCL qualification. This expectation will be much better for some clubs like Inter, Roma, Milan, Lazio, Atalanta, and also Juventus probably.

Although Sassuolo isn't a big team, it will be a mistake if Napoli underestimates them. It is a football match, small teams often defeated bigger teams. But in this match, Napoli played seriously, they focus on collecting more 3 points. So, they can deal with Sassuolo and they win with 2 goals.
But inn this match, none underestimated each other. Napoli as always, plays very seriously whoever the opponent and they are able to be leading as always. They are big and high motivation during this season. We can see how statistics they have not only during this game but also in previous games with other clubs. But indeed, if a club is underestimating others, it will be sometimes dangerous because they will not know exactly what will happen in the field during the match.

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