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July 19, 2023, 02:36:57 PM
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Considering that players who previously strengthened Napoli also left, and there was rumours that Napoli would sell other key players in the transfer market, this made Spalletti decision more unanimous to leave Napoli. As you said Leaving after winning that trophy yes is far better, because indeed him service that will be remembered  by all people especially their fans rather than leaving when don't get any trophy, although there is still a possibility they will win again but maybe Spalletti doubts that.
If Spalletti himself has doubts about that, of course the fans will also doubt that next season, because with several new players and also a new coach at Napoli, there will definitely be a difference in Napoli's performance in carrying out the championship in Serie A. Because of the coach Different people will definitely have different ways and directions in organizing and providing strategies for their players so that the unanimous steps made by Spalletti were not wrong last season.

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July 19, 2023, 02:44:06 PM
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There are several names who recommended by Rudi Garcia as the replacement of Kim Min-Jae which moved to Bayern Munich and they are Konstantinos Mavropanos from Stuttgart, Wolves player Max Kilman and Sociedad player Robin Le Normand but apparently Rudi Garcia was more prefer to gets Mavropanos this because he has cheap price because Mavropanos market value is only 10 millions and it's very cheap compared to Max Kilman and Le Normand which is these players has market value 40 millions and from quality too Mavropanos is quite good and at Stuttgart Mavropanos is important player and he has playing 34 times in all competitions with Stuttgart but he has through an poor season with this team because Stuttgart last season almost be relegated because they only can able to finish at 16th place

It seems interesting if Mavropanos will really be brought in by Napoli, because Mavropanos in the past was also an Arsenal player and then loaned out and played in the Bundesliga. With the move, it will certainly be good if Mavropanos plays in Serie A too at least it will make his experience continue to increase. About the quality basically Mavropanos can still be improved if Rudi Garcia can polish or train him in the right way. So, buying at a lower price than others, it will certainly be good if in the end Mavropanos can contribute as expected.

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July 19, 2023, 02:59:35 PM
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For now I don't expect a significant level of change for Napoli considering this season. It is only up to how strong bond will be created between the players and Rudi Garcia now. Because if we look at the situation from the game plan aspect there isn't significant difference between Rudi Garcia and Spalletti.
Even though the two of them have similarities in terms of game plan aspects, Rudi Garcia has a much bigger burden because currently Napoli is the defending champion in Serie A and Rudi Garcia's burden will be much bigger compared to Spalletti. I have a little doubt that Rudi Garcia can lead Napoli to finish in the top three next season, because talking about the opportunities and qualities of the two will definitely differ in the game plan.

They have almost the same understanding of game plan. Even the formations they use mostly are like the same. Rudi Garcia's having a history in the Serie A with Roma is also a plus for Napoli and him both. His times with Roma in the Serie A were pretty good too.
Maybe when he coached Roma he still had good moments and was able to make Roma appear impressive. But last season Rudi Garcia was sacked by Al Nassr's management because of the series of bad results he had given and rumors of disharmony with players and officials.

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July 19, 2023, 04:22:28 PM
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If Spalletti himself has doubts about that, of course the fans will also doubt that next season, because with several new players and also a new coach at Napoli, there will definitely be a difference in Napoli's performance in carrying out the championship in Serie A. Because of the coach Different people will definitely have different ways and directions in organizing and providing strategies for their players so that the unanimous steps made by Spalletti were not wrong last season.

Rudi garcia will have different strategy compared with spalletti. I doubt if napoli will able to repeat the same thing again. The fact that if rudi garcia has very bad stats when he was still in al nassr. I saw no difference between him and galtier.
I were feeling disappointed once napoli was announcing him to be a new coach. I thought that if napoli can do even better by picking a coach that has proven won so many trophies compared with him. That's unpredictable movement by napoli. All of fans are still questioning about how good he was when he gonna be a new coach for napoli. The main problem here if rudi never had good history in the football.


He was not even winning a scudetto with as roma. His track record is not good enough. Napoli needs someone who can handle the club even better compared with spalletti. IMO, taking him as a new coach was a blunder for napoli. I thought that if napoli already lined some popular names but it surprises me. This coach has a conflict with ronaldo in al nassr. Will he do the same thing again in napoli? I can't wait for the first match of napoli this season. It will be a good measurement to know how good napoli under rudi.

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July 19, 2023, 04:44:54 PM
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Spalletti's departure will certainly have a huge impact on them for next season and the exit of several key players will greatly affect the team's performance. Napoli showed quite a good performance last season so that everyone hopes that the new Napoli coach can continue this performance, thus creating high expectations and in my opinion it is very unlikely in his first season and also possible because these high expectations burden this team, especially the coach new Napoli Rudi Garcia.

There is not several key players who left as you said, only Kim Min-jae with a contribution above the average of other players who officially left Napoli this season. In this case, the key players in important positions in Napoli have so far perform well, it's just that we don't know how the new Napoli coach uses every player in the team.

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July 19, 2023, 04:50:41 PM
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Spalletti's departure will certainly have a huge impact on them for next season and the exit of several key players will greatly affect the team's performance. Napoli showed quite a good performance last season so that everyone hopes that the new Napoli coach can continue this performance, thus creating high expectations and in my opinion it is very unlikely in his first season and also possible because these high expectations burden this team, especially the coach new Napoli Rudi Garcia.

There is not several key players who left as you said, only Kim Min-jae with a contribution above the average of other players who officially left Napoli this season. In this case, the key players in important positions in Napoli have so far perform well, it's just that we don't know how the new Napoli coach uses every player in the team.
The Napoli team has to be really admired. The Napoli team is updating itself every season. However, if a quality player can be added to the attacking part of the Napoli team, the team will move forward in the list of title winners.

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July 19, 2023, 04:56:10 PM
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Milan has officially announced its newest signing from AZ Alkmaar, namely Tijjani Reijnders. He is a central midfielder and it looks like he was brought in as a replacement for Sandro Tonali who first went to Newcastle a few weeks ago. He is still quite young at 24 years old and the transfer fee is not too expensive, around 20 million euros. Tijjani Reijnders will be at San Siro until 2028 and this is a long-term contract for Milan. It seems that the profits from the sale of Sandro Tonali can be put to good use by Milan to recruit new players. Now Milan just needs an additional striker for next season's competition and I haven't seen any rumors regarding which striker will start in the future.

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Can i call that if serie a clubs were lucky enough? All of serie a clubs being placed in the same group last season. There was only porto which was a club came from the different league. The chance for who candidate that would be going to the final will be owned by serie a club.
I kinda feel the result will be different if there are also serie a clubs in the group A. Let's say that if intermilan and napoli replaced by madrid and bayern. The outcome will be very different.

The same thing will not gonna happen again next year. Serie a club must make a lot of preparation to face the different situation. So many clubs in another league were massively improving their clubs. All of big clubs in serie a were also doing the same thing like them too.

The saddest thing if lukaku being ended as most disliked guy in serie a.
I feel like none of them were on the "same group" they matched up later on but they weren't on the same group. They did something amazing, sure they did 0-3 on the finals that's bad but they all went to finals and that means that was a lot of money that went into Italian football, and the teams should be better.

I am not expecting them to be this good again, but I could put them at third position as a league today, that would be hard to calculate because there are better teams in other leagues but not better as a whole league if you ask me. They are only worse than la liga and premier league, and yes Bayern and PSG could be better than any team in Italy, but as a whole league I could see Italy at the third place for sure.
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Spalletti's departure will certainly have a huge impact on them for next season and the exit of several key players will greatly affect the team's performance. Napoli showed quite a good performance last season so that everyone hopes that the new Napoli coach can continue this performance, thus creating high expectations and in my opinion it is very unlikely in his first season and also possible because these high expectations burden this team, especially the coach new Napoli Rudi Garcia.

Spalletti's contribution to Napoli really deserves a thumbs up, no one even thought he was able to make Napoli the strongest team in Serie A last season, Rudi Garcia is also a good coach but the burden he carries is really heavy, everyone has high hopes he was able to match Spalletti's achievements and bring Napoli to the Serie A title again. maybe in some parts, we will see that there are drastic changes that have occurred in the pattern of playing Napoli, as long as Osimhen remains at the club, the chances for Napoli to win the Scudetto again are very large.



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But it is interesting now to see what steps Chelsea will take after overhauling a lot of players who were just released. with the fresh funds they have from the sale actually Vlahovic is also still possible to bring in but as you said, there are several other options about this although it is likely that Vlahovic is one of the players prioritized.
Besides, some news about the exchange of Vlahovic and Lukaku is also still quite busy at this time so this can also be used as one of the good and mutually beneficial options for them.
This week has been really busy for some of the big clubs but it's quite normal.
Transfers are getting closer and closer to the end and they need to secure some of the players they are after because if not this could make them fail to realize what they want for next season.

Juventus performance may be impacted by the likely release of Vlahovic but the organisation may have alternate plans to improve their team. Chelsea may have difficulties as a result of psg strong pursuit of Vlahovic but there are still questions about PSG dedication in light of previous scandals. Chelsea is still a serious candidate to sign vlahovic and they are also keeping an eye on Kolo Muani and Elye Wahi as potential strikers.
Chelsea might compete well because it has raised significant money from player sales but adding further talented players might also be a wise move. In the end Juventus may be happy to let PSG secure Vlahovic while they keep looking for a suitable successor.

When Dusan left the scenario was Lukaku who entered to replace that position, especially Juventus are also still monitoring Lukaku as a successor when Dusan goes to Chelsea. and this makes them benefit because Juventus don't bother too much if they release Dusan to Chelsea.
As for PSG, the possibility when they are eyeing Dusan is because they are still messing around with the status of Mbappe at the moment and I think when Mbappe does not leave this season then they will also reduce the option of looking for a striker so in this case PSG is still 50/50 especially seeing that they are also ready with a 150 million offer for Osimhen it indicates that they still have not decided who their main target is.

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July 19, 2023, 06:22:01 PM
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But it is interesting now to see what steps Chelsea will take after overhauling a lot of players who were just released. with the fresh funds they have from the sale actually Vlahovic is also still possible to bring in but as you said, there are several other options about this although it is likely that Vlahovic is one of the players prioritized.
Besides, some news about the exchange of Vlahovic and Lukaku is also still quite busy at this time so this can also be used as one of the good and mutually beneficial options for them.
This week has been really busy for some of the big clubs but it's quite normal.
Transfers are getting closer and closer to the end and they need to secure some of the players they are after because if not this could make them fail to realize what they want for next season.

Juventus performance may be impacted by the likely release of Vlahovic but the organisation may have alternate plans to improve their team. Chelsea may have difficulties as a result of psg strong pursuit of Vlahovic but there are still questions about PSG dedication in light of previous scandals. Chelsea is still a serious candidate to sign vlahovic and they are also keeping an eye on Kolo Muani and Elye Wahi as potential strikers.
Chelsea might compete well because it has raised significant money from player sales but adding further talented players might also be a wise move. In the end Juventus may be happy to let PSG secure Vlahovic while they keep looking for a suitable successor.

When Dusan left the scenario was Lukaku who entered to replace that position, especially Juventus are also still monitoring Lukaku as a successor when Dusan goes to Chelsea. and this makes them benefit because Juventus don't bother too much if they release Dusan to Chelsea.
As for PSG, the possibility when they are eyeing Dusan is because they are still messing around with the status of Mbappe at the moment and I think when Mbappe does not leave this season then they will also reduce the option of looking for a striker so in this case PSG is still 50/50 especially seeing that they are also ready with a 150 million offer for Osimhen it indicates that they still have not decided who their main target is.

What you described now perfectly shows how much all of these transfers are interdependent. Everyone is waiting for what PSG is going to do with Mbappe, PSG thmselves are waiting for Mbappe and Real Madrid because they can't sign another player for 150 million if they don't know whether Mbappe will leave, and there are several more clubs who would either have some of their options become valid or invalid depending on what happens with players at other clubs. It even trickles down to Lukaku and Juventus Turin. I think Chelsea won't remain stubborn and they will let Lukaku go because they can't be interesting in having him sitting on the bench when he is not the type of player Pochettino likes to play with.

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July 19, 2023, 06:40:19 PM
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Can i call that if serie a clubs were lucky enough? All of serie a clubs being placed in the same group last season. There was only porto which was a club came from the different league. The chance for who candidate that would be going to the final will be owned by serie a club.
I kinda feel the result will be different if there are also serie a clubs in the group A. Let's say that if intermilan and napoli replaced by madrid and bayern. The outcome will be very different.
The same thing will not gonna happen again next year. Serie a club must make a lot of preparation to face the different situation. So many clubs in another league were massively improving their clubs. All of big clubs in serie a were also doing the same thing like them too.
The saddest thing if lukaku being ended as most disliked guy in serie a.
I feel like none of them were on the "same group" they matched up later on but they weren't on the same group. They did something amazing, sure they did 0-3 on the finals that's bad but they all went to finals and that means that was a lot of money that went into Italian football, and the teams should be better.
I am not expecting them to be this good again, but I could put them at third position as a league today, that would be hard to calculate because there are better teams in other leagues but not better as a whole league if you ask me. They are only worse than la liga and premier league, and yes Bayern and PSG could be better than any team in Italy, but as a whole league I could see Italy at the third place for sure.

Serie A is a decent league in my opinion. The competition is good. Of course, the English Premier League is the best league in the world right now. La Liga is decent. The problem with La Liga is that the competition is genuinely decreasing day by day. At least the competition for Real Madrid and Barcelona is certainly decreasing. Every season Barcelona and Real Madrid are almost always at the top of the table.

Now, if we compare La Liga with the Italian league, I think we can say that the Italian league is close to La Liga in terms of competition. I am going to say this and I know a lot of people are not going to like what I am about to say. But I genuinely believe that La Liga is a little overhyped.

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Serie A is a decent league in my opinion. The competition is good. Of course, the English Premier League is the best league in the world right now. La Liga is decent. The problem with La Liga is that the competition is genuinely decreasing day by day. At least the competition for Real Madrid and Barcelona is certainly decreasing. Every season Barcelona and Real Madrid are almost always at the top of the table.
Juventus made problems for Serie A this season, the point deduction of 10 points and more has been a big topic in the media. This leads to no trust and there are players who do not want to play at such a club. Juventus has done even worse in the past: manipulation. Most of the players in Italy are Italians, they want to stay in their home country. You can see that in the national team, almost all of them play in Italy.

Spain and Barcelona or Real Madrid have much more money. I think they also have other chances Tor ein international titels.

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Serie A is a decent league in my opinion. The competition is good. Of course, the English Premier League is the best league in the world right now. La Liga is decent. The problem with La Liga is that the competition is genuinely decreasing day by day. At least the competition for Real Madrid and Barcelona is certainly decreasing. Every season Barcelona and Real Madrid are almost always at the top of the table.
Juventus made problems for Serie A this season, the point deduction of 10 points and more has been a big topic in the media. This leads to no trust and there are players who do not want to play at such a club. Juventus has done even worse in the past: manipulation. Most of the players in Italy are Italians, they want to stay in their home country. You can see that in the national team, almost all of them play in Italy.

Spain and Barcelona or Real Madrid have much more money. I think they also have other chances Tor ein international titels.

In the past Serie A was the most attractive league because of its highly competitive rivalry, but when the case of match-fixing and or calciopoli and then it made Serie A lose confidence and also decreased audience interest. It took a long time for Serie A to recover but over time, the Premier League became the most attractive league until now. But indeed, despite this of course Serie A is still an interesting league to watch and that is proven, in the last season all representatives of Serie A clubs can reach the final in Europe. At least it is also proof that, the performance of Serie A teams is still growing from season to season.

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July 19, 2023, 07:18:49 PM
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Spalletti's contribution to Napoli really deserves a thumbs up, no one even thought he was able to make Napoli the strongest team in Serie A last season, Rudi Garcia is also a good coach but the burden he carries is really heavy, everyone has high hopes he was able to match Spalletti's achievements and bring Napoli to the Serie A title again. maybe in some parts, we will see that there are drastic changes that have occurred in the pattern of playing Napoli, as long as Osimhen remains at the club, the chances for Napoli to win the Scudetto again are very large.
Spaletti's contribution cannot be doubted anymore because he succeeded in helping Napoli win the Italian league title last season. But it is also interesting to discuss that Juventus are preparing a breakthrough through the cold hands of Cristiano Giuntoli after leading Napoli to win the Italian Serie A League last season.

So far, Juventus have often had problems with financial taxes and point deductions in domestic competitions and tournaments, leading to being alienated from European regional competitions since this season started. Another problem is that players who have contributed to Juventus are being sold and Massimiliano Allegri's future will disappear in the near future, Coach Massimiliano Allegri will soon resign and be replaced by a new coach, who knows who will replace Coach Massimiliano Allegri at Juventus, but at least the new coach can bring new hope to Juventus. There is still a lot of homework to be completed by the Management of Cristiano Giuntoli's Juventus team since the domestic competition starts later, and I hope that Juventus can bring Luciano Spaletti to Juventus, by making him Juventus coach.

It is hoped that with arrivals like Spaletti's, it can revive Juventus' glory 11 years ago in all competitions, starting from domestic tournaments and in Europe.
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I can't overlook what Spalletti did with Napoli as well. It was really something else. After more than 30 years Napoli won another Serie A title in a really magical way. It was such a dominant one that it would never be forgotten in team history for sure. He could have stayed and worked for maintaining the success but he didn't want the continuation of this relationship anymore. Because he believed that he didn't have any energy left to maintain success.

Now he has even given a break for his job. If the situation is really like that then I believe he did the best for himself. Hopefully Rudi Garcia can keep Napoli being competitive.

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In the past Serie A was the most attractive league because of its highly competitive rivalry, but when the case of match-fixing and or calciopoli and then it made Serie A lose confidence and also decreased audience interest. It took a long time for Serie A to recover but over time, the Premier League became the most attractive league until now. But indeed, despite this of course Serie A is still an interesting league to watch and that is proven, in the last season all representatives of Serie A clubs can reach the final in Europe. At least it is also proof that, the performance of Serie A teams is still growing from season to season.

Serie A was clearly one of the strongest leagues in Europe before their overall league competitive performance began to decrease. We had AC Milan, Inter Milan, and Juventus, among others, who were all in excellent form and consistently dominated European competition. All of these teams are still performing well, and there are more on the way who have been excelling in European competitions. I'm not sure what caused the league's general performance to fall; might it be a shortage of quality players, as it was previously? But I love the zeal currently in the league, and they're doing better than ever, as evidenced by how most Italian clubs performed in European competitions they participated in last season.

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July 19, 2023, 08:23:38 PM
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When Dusan left the scenario was Lukaku who entered to replace that position, especially Juventus are also still monitoring Lukaku as a successor when Dusan goes to Chelsea. and this makes them benefit because Juventus don't bother too much if they release Dusan to Chelsea.
As for PSG, the possibility when they are eyeing Dusan is because they are still messing around with the status of Mbappe at the moment and I think when Mbappe does not leave this season then they will also reduce the option of looking for a striker so in this case PSG is still 50/50 especially seeing that they are also ready with a 150 million offer for Osimhen it indicates that they still have not decided who their main target is.

What you described now perfectly shows how much all of these transfers are interdependent. Everyone is waiting for what PSG is going to do with Mbappe, PSG thmselves are waiting for Mbappe and Real Madrid because they can't sign another player for 150 million if they don't know whether Mbappe will leave, and there are several more clubs who would either have some of their options become valid or invalid depending on what happens with players at other clubs. It even trickles down to Lukaku and Juventus Turin. I think Chelsea won't remain stubborn and they will let Lukaku go because they can't be interesting in having him sitting on the bench when he is not the type of player Pochettino likes to play with.
Thats right. In the end these are interconnected but still the focus may be between Mbappe and PSG as this could leave some transfers open if Mbappe leaves.
On the other hand this could also encourage some players including Dusan and Osimhen who are at Napoli.
But that only refers to a few for the case of Chelsea there might be a difference because with Mbappe leaving or not they will try to get Dusan if that is the best option from Pochettino but if Mbappe leaves and Dusan is one of the options for a replacement then maybe Chelsea should be prepared for the competition that will occur between them and PSG.

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Dusan has good body and skills to play well in Premier League so I understand if Chelsea want to get him from the Old Lady. Premier League is a bigger league than Ligue 1 and playing for a big club in Premier League can help Dusan to have better chance to win Champions League. Moving to PSG, he will be their important player but chance to win Champions League will be unknown.
Yes, we really understand how matches and clubs are in the EPL, therefore, this season Chelsea is really trying its best to strengthen the club and rise from its downturn. They need players who are not only talented and skilled but also fit and strong in the EPL. And Vlahovic is one of the perfect fit for that for Chelsea. But maybe this will not be as expected, because seeing the costs they have to incur for their salary which is considered quite high. hence maybe this will not continue as we think.

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In the past Serie A was the most attractive league because of its highly competitive rivalry, but when the case of match-fixing and or calciopoli and then it made Serie A lose confidence and also decreased audience interest. It took a long time for Serie A to recover but over time, the Premier League became the most attractive league until now. But indeed, despite this of course Serie A is still an interesting league to watch and that is proven, in the last season all representatives of Serie A clubs can reach the final in Europe. At least it is also proof that, the performance of Serie A teams is still growing from season to season.

Serie A was clearly one of the strongest leagues in Europe before their overall league competitive performance began to decrease. We had AC Milan, Inter Milan, and Juventus, among others, who were all in excellent form and consistently dominated European competition. All of these teams are still performing well, and there are more on the way who have been excelling in European competitions. I'm not sure what caused the league's general performance to fall; might it be a shortage of quality players, as it was previously? But I love the zeal currently in the league, and they're doing better than ever, as evidenced by how most Italian clubs performed in European competitions they participated in last season.
Changes in club performance in every season are usually always changing and maybe when compared with past performance clubs such as Inter milan, AC milan and Juven have performed very well and have always looked extraordinary on the field.
But that was then and now senior player have started to move to other club and there have also been several injuries that have prevented their performance from being as optimal as it used to be.
So if this change occurs every season this will be a regular problem that we often face and we don't need to worry about this situation because after all the Italian league still has several club that can qualify for the Champions League final and the European league even though they can get the cup but at least it is proof that club from Italy still have the strength to compete with other leagues.
We can only hope that in every season clubs from Serie A have at least representatives to be able to get the European League Cup or Champions League to prove the strength of clubs from Serie A which cannot be underestimated.

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