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April 10, 2024, 07:54:52 PM
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If we exclude one of the lowest ranked teams currently, namely Salernitana, it will be seen that there are five bottom teams whose current number of points is not too different from Frosinone. This means that Frosinone still deserves to fight for this because Frosinone is only one point behind Verona and two points behind Empoli and Udinese. So the competition to get out of the relegation zone this season also looks more interesting because Sassuolo can also win one of the important positions at the end of this season so the four teams I mentioned also still have to be wary of Sassuolo.
In my opinion, there are several teams that will ultimately be relegated at the end of the season based on their current points tally. Some of them are Frosinone, Sassuolo, Verona, Empoli and also Udinese. The points gap between each team is very low and they can swap places if they make mistakes for the rest of the season, so of course all of them will do their best to stay in Serie A next season.

Of course there will be two of those I mentioned above who will be relegated in the end, but it is still difficult for me to say for sure who is most likely to be relegated. Some of their matches are still interesting, but I don't really like matches between teams in the relegation zone for any league.

 
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April 10, 2024, 08:16:44 PM
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Inter Milan is topping the Italy Serie A table with 14 points, and no club in Serie A can challenge Inter Milan for the Scudetto title this season. I agree with you that Inter Milan will not celebrate their win against AC Milan because AC Milan is not challenging them for the Scudetto title this season; they will see their match with AC Milan as a normal match because losing against AC Milan will not stop them from winning the Scudetto title this season. 

It has already been confirmed that Inter Milan will be the champions of this year's Serie A. Juventus competed for the title with Inter Milan. But due to erratic performance, this team is also far behind now. Juventus now have a 20-point gap with Inter Milan. The team is now third in the table.

However, it is difficult to predict which three teams will be in the relegation zone this season. It is certain that Salernitana will be in the last position of the table. However, Frosinone and Sassuolo have great chances to get out of the relegation zone. Frosinone and Sassuolo can get out of the relegation zone only if these two teams can perform consistently well in a few matches.



Frosinone is just 4 points behind Cagliari in 13th place in the table. So every team after 13th place in the table has the possibility to go to the relegation zone.

I think it hasn't been that close for quite a while. Normally you would think that the 13th position give the club a feeling of comfort after 31 games have been played, but in this particular case it is quite the opposite. Genoa is safe with 12 points ahead of the relegation zone, but Cagliari is essentially in the middle of the fighting zone against relegation.

And there are many many games upcoming where these teams from 20th position to 13th position play against each other, which means that there are several minor finals coming up where the games count enormously for everyone.

But I guess most people are usually not too interested in the relegation zone. However, there isn't much too look at except maybe for the fight between Roma and Bologna for the Champions League qualification.

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April 10, 2024, 09:19:57 PM
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Did you see the game statistics? Cheesy I thought for a moment that I am looking at the wrong game. How is it possible that Juventus has 25% ball possession in their home stadium against Fiorentina? At second look I thought I missed an early red card or something, but no, it was a usual game and Fiorentina dominated the entire game, but wasn't good enough to score. Juventus is on a serious downtrend.
Juventus is very economical in movement, even to the point of thinking "ah, never mind, Juventus will catch up, ah never mind, Juventus will lose". However, after waiting eagerly for Fiorentina to score a goal, it turned out it didn't come. even until the match is over. This time, fortunately the opponent was Fiorentina, who were really annoying because they dominated the match but were unable to score a single goal.

Should I say:
"Just let Juventus play like it is, the important thing is that the result is a win."
or
"Could it be that Juventus' performance has improved a little, why is its performance going this way and that, its performance is even far from good for a club in the top 3 of Serie A."

Even Juventus was offside 5x, while Fiorentina only 1x.

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Thanks for sharing this here and I quoted the post in whole as it makes sense to point out why I was bringing the statistics up and added a smiley.

I can't remember to be honest, but it must be a very long time ago that I saw a game where Juventus Turin played at home and had only 218 passes for the whole game.

Keep in mind that Juventus didn't play against Manchester City. This is ridiculous and it's quite telling. I would be very concerned as a fan and as someone who is in charge of the club. Whether that be the coach or the bosses or the owners or whoever, but this is not Juventus Turin as we know them.

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April 10, 2024, 09:56:42 PM
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Chelsea are aiming for osimhen according to the Anglo-Saxon press.

The player will certainly leave Napoli and Italy this summer, declared several times by the Napoli's president.

The price will not be less than 100 million, and according to the president's words the player should already have an agreement with an English team.

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April 10, 2024, 10:00:29 PM
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Chelsea are aiming for osimhen according to the Anglo-Saxon press.

The player will certainly leave Napoli and Italy this summer, declared several times by the Napoli's president.

The price will not be less than 100 million, and according to the president's words the player should already have an agreement with an English team.
Chelsea aiming for Osimhen? Well, Yes, news is There.
Chelsea definitely hopes that next season, their performance won't be as bad. And Osimhen is one of the right choices. But will he thrive at Chelsea in an environment like that? because, the success of a player is also supported by the entire team. and conversely, all players can also make the team successful again if they can give their best performance. Chelsea have no problem with their finances to bring in a player like Osimhen. Because at Napoli itself, Osimhen has not shone too much since the change of coach because the tactical incompatibility with these players is very influential.

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April 10, 2024, 10:04:00 PM
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If we exclude one of the lowest ranked teams currently, namely Salernitana, it will be seen that there are five bottom teams whose current number of points is not too different from Frosinone. This means that Frosinone still deserves to fight for this because Frosinone is only one point behind Verona and two points behind Empoli and Udinese. So the competition to get out of the relegation zone this season also looks more interesting because Sassuolo can also win one of the important positions at the end of this season so the four teams I mentioned also still have to be wary of Sassuolo.
Towards the end of the season, sometimes seeing the competition at the bottom of the rankings becomes just as interesting as seeing the competition for Champions League tickets ranked in the top 4. Well Frosinone and Sassuolo actually still have the same chances. It's just that Sassuolo, who have 25 points, will probably have the most difficulty getting out of the relegation zone. Meanwhile, we can be sure that Salernitana will be relegated this season. Frosinone they just need to win more games and they can actually get out of the relegation zone. If they can play like they did against Bologna then maybe Frosinone will get pretty good results when facing both ordinary teams.
yep, the competition between the teams at the bottom of the standings will also be a tense match for the rest of this match but for me it's not as interesting as the top teams who are trying to compete for tickets to the UCL next season because of the playing style of the top teams and the teams Mediocre is very different.
regarding Frosinone future at the end of the season, they actually still have a big chance of escaping the relegation zone being more consistent in not losing points in every match, such as against Genoa and Bologna.
but the problem is not only that, but in the upcoming match, Frosinone will have a slightly difficult match schedule when they have to play away against Napoli and also against Inter.

It will not be easy for teams currently in the relegation zone to move away from that zone because in the remaining matches like this they always have matches scheduled against stronger teams.

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April 10, 2024, 10:39:42 PM
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Chelsea are aiming for osimhen according to the Anglo-Saxon press.

The player will certainly leave Napoli and Italy this summer, declared several times by the Napoli's president.

The price will not be less than 100 million, and according to the president's words the player should already have an agreement with an English team.
Not to be a kill joy but if Osimhen were to go to any English side, Chelsea shouldn't be on his list because currently they're a team without a structure and it's like they are failed project. Before Chelsea will come back to the team we know, they need more than a year to to do that. Believe me if Victor Osimhen were to go to Chelsea, he'd just be a shadow of himself, we know of players who are in Chelsea now that were superb in their former clubs but are not really living up to expectations like Nicholas Jackson, Moises Caicedo and Christopher Nkunku ( this one is so injury prone that when he recovers, he'd be of little to no value to the club).
 It would be better to set his sights elsewhere to either Liverpool, Man City or Arsenal where his potential will be maximized, even though Chelsea has always been his dream club, I don't think he'd be the guy to change the outcome of the world.
At the moment, Osimhen doesn't need a club that is rebuilding themselves, who aren't consistent, rather he needs a team who are goal oriented since he's still quite young.

 
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April 10, 2024, 10:54:19 PM
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I agree with you. The competition to get out of the relegation zone is very exciting and interesting to watch. Udinese, Empoli and Verona are still not in a safe position because Frossinone and Sassuolo can still replace them. This is a competition between 5 teams apart from Salernitana because they will almost certainly be relegated. Even Lecce is still in an unsafe position if they cannot maintain the consistency of their game. With 5 games remaining I think there will be a surprise in the race for the relegation zone. We still can't determine the 2 teams that will be relegated along with Salernitana because the 5 lower ranked teams don't have that big of a difference in points.
Undinese is actually very far away from getting relegated thi season, even if they happen to loose a few games but rhen i series of losses could actually send them into relegation buy if they can maintain it between losses and wins rhen they could possibly still find their way far away from the relegation to the position where they will have no fear of been relegated by the end of the season especially with poor performance.

Verona is the most relegation prone amongst the three teams who appear slightly above relegation this season, they are just a point away from been relegated so even a draw in their next match doesn't sound healthy enough for them because if they get such a point, they will have to stand a risk of them been displaced especially if the team right next to them gets to win their next game in their next fixture., Sassuolo looks more to me like they will be able to win the and displace any of the other three which are currently above them away from the relegation.

Salarnitana is moat likely going to be relegated as their performance this season isn't any of such that can give them a good  position away from.the relegation zone, at some point i even saw them as a team thst helps other teams to win and get three points to be able to get a chance and further scale up the table. Veron may actually end up relegated buy then if they improve they may not end up so.

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April 10, 2024, 11:20:07 PM
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Some teams in the Serie A were not in good form at all and they were having bad performances with these coaches. For example, Juventus could even win the Serie A title because of the more time they had for rest between each game unlike Inter Milan but they lost this chance and now Juventus is trying to get the Champions League title instead of the Serie A title which is not good for them.
Also, Ac Milan had a bad performance at the start of the season but now they are in better form, they were even about to stop working with Pioli, and even Conte was linked to AC Milan for the next season but seems after a good performance Pioli had recently they will extend his contract for a longer time. However, Thiago Motta was also about to join Ac Milan.


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Did you see the game statistics? Cheesy I thought for a moment that I am looking at the wrong game. How is it possible that Juventus has 25% ball possession in their home stadium against Fiorentina? At second look I thought I missed an early red card or something, but no, it was a usual game and Fiorentina dominated the entire game, but wasn't good enough to score. Juventus is on a serious downtrend.
Juventus is very economical in movement, even to the point of thinking "ah, never mind, Juventus will catch up, ah never mind, Juventus will lose". However, after waiting eagerly for Fiorentina to score a goal, it turned out it didn't come. even until the match is over. This time, fortunately the opponent was Fiorentina, who were really annoying because they dominated the match but were unable to score a single goal.

Should I say:
"Just let Juventus play like it is, the important thing is that the result is a win."
or
"Could it be that Juventus' performance has improved a little, why is its performance going this way and that, its performance is even far from good for a club in the top 3 of Serie A."

Even Juventus was offside 5x, while Fiorentina only 1x.

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Thanks for sharing this here and I quoted the post in whole as it makes sense to point out why I was bringing the statistics up and added a smiley.

I can't remember to be honest, but it must be a very long time ago that I saw a game where Juventus Turin played at home and had only 218 passes for the whole game.

Keep in mind that Juventus didn't play against Manchester City. This is ridiculous and it's quite telling. I would be very concerned as a fan and as someone who is in charge of the club. Whether that be the coach or the bosses or the owners or whoever, but this is not Juventus Turin as we know them.
Juventus played good football from the start of Italy's Serie A to the mid-season of Italy's Serie A league. But ever since Juventus lost the Scudetto title race to Inter Milan, Juventus started performing poorly and struggled to win their matches in the league. This is my first time seeing a club in Italy's Serie A, making Juventus have a ball possession as low as 25% in full-time play.


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Last edit: April 11, 2024, 12:14:38 AM by TelolettOm
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Chelsea are aiming for osimhen according to the Anglo-Saxon press.
The player will certainly leave Napoli and Italy this summer, declared several times by the Napoli's president.
The price will not be less than 100 million, and according to the president's words the player should already have an agreement with an English team.
Why Chelsea never give up to sign Osimhen?
I think Osimhen won't move to Chelsea, he has many options to move to other top teams.
Even if Chelsea can pay more 100 million, the transfer won't happen if Osimhen disagrees. There are Liverpool and Arsenal which want to sign Osimhen, too. Personally, I assume Osimhen will be more interested to move to these teams over Chelsea.

Anyway, the president never said a specific team to reach the agreement, right?
It can be another English team (Liverpool or Arsenal), it is not only Chelsea that possibly reaches the agreement.
I also don't understand what agreement you explained here. Is it a personal agreement with Osimhen? Or an agreement with Napoli management team?

In addition, besides the rumor with Real Madrid. I also heard that he may join PSG due to the departure of Mbappe.



https://www.goal.com/en-gb/lists/europe-most-wanted-victor-osimhen-should-spurn-premier-league-interest-join-psg-summer/blt7bb82c97bd19b8e9#cs6c14bd24a119b425


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April 11, 2024, 01:53:48 AM
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Chelsea are aiming for osimhen according to the Anglo-Saxon press.

The player will certainly leave Napoli and Italy this summer, declared several times by the Napoli's president.

The price will not be less than 100 million, and according to the president's words the player should already have an agreement with an English team.

A few weeks ago there was news that Osimhen had reached a personal agreement with Chelsea. It seems that Osimhen's move to Chelsea has reached a clear point, but like previous big transfer rumors, the clarity of this transfer could be unclear (like the case of Kylian Mbappe).

Even if Osimhen's transfer to Chelsea ultimately fails, they have prepared another option, namely RB Leipzig striker Benjamin Sesko who is a strong candidate after Osimhen.

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April 11, 2024, 02:56:05 AM
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Juventus played good football from the start of Italy's Serie A to the mid-season of Italy's Serie A league. But ever since Juventus lost the Scudetto title race to Inter Milan, Juventus started performing poorly and struggled to win their matches in the league. This is my first time seeing a club in Italy's Serie A, making Juventus have a ball possession as low as 25% in full-time play.
Juventus should be able to focus on competing for the Scudetto title because they are not taking part in other competitions, but they didn't get the chance and on the other hand, Inter Milan is much more convincing and more focused than Juventus. After getting several bad results, Juventus seemed to struggle in several matches, although now they have returned to a much better performance. To catch Inter Milan at the top of the standings is impossible and even to catch AC Milan is also very difficult.

Now it is better to focus on the top three positions and they must maintain that so that next season they can qualify for the Champions League. Bologna has the opportunity to catch up with Juventus if they fail to win in the next few matches, so Juventus must really focus on the remaining matches ahead.

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April 11, 2024, 02:58:30 AM
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Chelsea are aiming for osimhen according to the Anglo-Saxon press.

The player will certainly leave Napoli and Italy this summer, declared several times by the Napoli's president.

The price will not be less than 100 million, and according to the president's words the player should already have an agreement with an English team.
Not to be a kill joy but if Osimhen were to go to any English side, Chelsea shouldn't be on his list because currently they're a team without a structure and it's like they are failed project. Before Chelsea will come back to the team we know, they need more than a year to to do that. Believe me if Victor Osimhen were to go to Chelsea, he'd just be a shadow of himself, we know of players who are in Chelsea now that were superb in their former clubs but are not really living up to expectations like Nicholas Jackson, Moises Caicedo and Christopher Nkunku ( this one is so injury prone that when he recovers, he'd be of little to no value to the club).
 It would be better to set his sights elsewhere to either Liverpool, Man City or Arsenal where his potential will be maximized, even though Chelsea has always been his dream club, I don't think he'd be the guy to change the outcome of the world.
At the moment, Osimhen doesn't need a club that is rebuilding themselves, who aren't consistent, rather he needs a team who are goal oriented since he's still quite young.

You're correct on the Chelsea side having a lot of issues to handle, he can't be their Messiah but if he eventually plays for Chelsea I believe he'd be seen as a players that doesn't have anything to offer like players like Jackson, Caicedo and some other new guys in the squad who ain't playing to their best, this guy V. Osimhen will be a flop of the season and he won't be like the guy we all know in the Serie A, he won't be doing any of those scoring at Chelsea. The blues isn't a bad club but they lack that coordination, no leader in the team and they're just playing to survive and nothing more, no ambition at all. We should know that the take over killed the team honestly and the owner doesn't have any idea on how to run a football club.
I'd advise he either go to Liverpool, Arsenal or Man City like you said because these two teams have come past that rebuilding stage, they're teams that are set for any player to blend in with young and experience players to make the team much stronger but between these 3 teams I'd say the Emirates should be the best destination because they're up for the task ahead with a bright future to help him become better than he is now.











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April 11, 2024, 03:51:35 AM
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Juventus played good football from the start of Italy's Serie A to the mid-season of Italy's Serie A league. But ever since Juventus lost the Scudetto title race to Inter Milan, Juventus started performing poorly and struggled to win their matches in the league. This is my first time seeing a club in Italy's Serie A, making Juventus have a ball possession as low as 25% in full-time play.
Juventus should be able to focus on competing for the Scudetto title because they are not taking part in other competitions, but they didn't get the chance and on the other hand, Inter Milan is much more convincing and more focused than Juventus. After getting several bad results, Juventus seemed to struggle in several matches, although now they have returned to a much better performance. To catch Inter Milan at the top of the standings is impossible and even to catch AC Milan is also very difficult.

Now it is better to focus on the top three positions and they must maintain that so that next season they can qualify for the Champions League. Bologna has the opportunity to catch up with Juventus if they fail to win in the next few matches, so Juventus must really focus on the remaining matches ahead.
At the start of this season, Juventus was competing with Inter Milan for the Scudetto title, but I don't know what happened to Juventus to lose control of the Scudetto title race. It is now too late for Juventus to compete for the Scudetto because Inter Milan is leading Juventus with 20 points. Even AC Milan, which is in second place in the Serie A table, cannot compete with Inter Milan because Inter Milan is leading them with 14 points. 


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April 11, 2024, 04:00:43 AM
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Winning a double is definitely a great achievement, and after UCL final last year, and being this good this year, I think Inter is establishing something that may go for a long time. I mean think about it, other teams are good too, and not like there is no chance Inter may lose, but if they keep this up, they may actually start a run at the league like Juventus did.

Of course a few bad mistakes, a couple wrong moves and suddenly you start to look like a lot worse team, this is why it's quite important to not lose yourself into anything. I personally believe that if we are not careful then we are going to end up with something that will hurt us on the long run. So, we should probably keep it a bit more calm and not that big of a situation.

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April 11, 2024, 05:39:56 AM
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I also didn't expect a team on the rise like Bologna to only be able to draw against a team like Frosinone who is in the relegation zone. Even though in this match Bologna dominated the game well. H
Yes, this seems unexpected. Because Frosinone is not a club that is usually quite troublesome, isn't it? They usually play normally. However, against Bologna yesterday, their progress looked quite good, especially in their attacking efforts. Even though nothing looks that strong, this is quite troublesome for Bologna. Meanwhile, on the other hand, Bologna are actually not that good, they are superior in ball possession. but they are not optimal enough to optimize many of these chances to score the goal,
Yes, I don't understand why Frosinone can perform so well against Bologna. Even though in previous matches in Serie A, Frosinone often lost to other teams. So I thought, why didn't Frosinone play as well as they did against Bologna since the start of the season. Because if Frosinone can perform well like that since the start of the season, I'm sure Frosinone will not be stranded in the relegation zone. However, unfortunately at the start of the season, Frosinone's performance was not good so they often lost to other teams in Serie A.

Apart from that, after watching Frosinone's match against Bologna.
I then considered that the Frosinone players had great potential which could still be developed further. Because the proof is that Frosinone was able to hold Bologna to a draw very well. However, perhaps Frosinone has a bad coach or an inadequate training ground. So the player's potential is not maximized because of these factors.
So in my opinion, if Frosinone wants to be able to compete in Serie A better, Frosinone should replace its coach with a better one and of course it must pay attention to the training facilities for its players. So that the players' potential can be maximized.

And next week Frosinone will also face a quite strong team, namely Napoli. It could be that in this match Frosinone will give another surprise like the one against Bologna.

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April 11, 2024, 06:43:19 AM
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Indeed, Juventus will not face such difficult opponents in the future but maybe you forgot how they lost full points against Genoa, Verona and Udinese. In my opinion, even if most of the teams they face are weak teams, it is not impossible that they will lose full points again.

Seriously, it was surprised to see Juventus lose Genoa, Verona and Udinese. I was thinking all these teams are weak team and the fact that Juventus are looking for a way to rank higher in the table they will beat this teams which they failed to do. However, currently Juventus performance is declining in my opinion, they are performance is not going they way it was before. Genoa is at the 12 position in the table, Udinese is at 15 position while Verona is at 17 in the table, so definitely I classify this teams as weak team and the fact that Juventus lose to them make me think that Juventus performance is already declining.


Roma and Milan are indeed strong opponents, especially this season they have shown a significant improvement in performance and it is possible that Juventus will not win against both of them at the end of the season. Apart from that, even though Juventus is so favored in the competition for the top 4, they still cannot be careless because any team that is close to them can bring down Juventus at any time and they must not allow this and before it is too late they must realize that. As much as possible they must provide maximum results, especially when facing weak teams.

When we are talking about Clubs that are going to be a challenge for Juventus,  seriously, I will also count Ac Milan,  and AS Roma. I will even include Bologna, because they are also fighting for Juventus position in the table,  and the fact that Juventus lose to weaker teams,  I believe even if they meet with this top teams they will still lose. so the only way for Juventus to secure their position now is that anytime they meet with weak opponents they should win them,  and secure full points since they can’t win strong teams anymore.

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April 11, 2024, 08:11:55 AM
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It seems that Frosinone really surprised Bologna. Because in that match, Frosinone also created almost the same number of opportunities as Bologna. As if they were a team at the same level as Bologna. Maybe their Frosinone will slowly improve at the end of this season. And actually the opportunity for Frosinone to get out of the relegation zone is still quite wide open. So they will fight harder at the end of this season. But Bologna was indeed disadvantaged by the draw. because Bologna ultimately failed to get close to Juventus in order to overtake Juventus, where the point difference was getting thinner.
Sometimes clubs like Frosinone, more precisely clubs that are at a lower level, can provide surprises, especially for clubs that might take them lightly in the competition and what happened was that Bologna was quite confident when facing Frosinone, they were very confident that they could beat the club that was currently in the zone. relegation but in reality Bologna was unable to beat Frosinone and was not even able to score a goal against the hosts. Various attempts were made by Bologna to break into Frosinone's goal but none of them succeeded so Bologna had to accept this draw even though they lost the opportunity to overtake Juventus.

Betting on top clubs when facing clubs from the relegation zone in my opinion is too risky because clubs that have the potential to be relegated will fight as hard as possible to get points but top clubs actually underestimate opponents that they feel are quite easy so that surprises can happen and we cannot predict them. Frosinone worked quite well in that match even though they were only able to get 1 point, but this point was very important for Frosinone to increase their total points and slowly save them from the relegation zone.
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Chelsea are aiming for osimhen according to the Anglo-Saxon press.

The player will certainly leave Napoli and Italy this summer, declared several times by the Napoli's president.

The price will not be less than 100 million, and according to the president's words the player should already have an agreement with an English team.

Yeah there must be no way for Osimhen to stay as long as he gets a reasonable offer. He wanted to extend his contract by only one year when he was approached by his team. After this poor season Napoli have had so far I don't expect them to manage to keep him for one more year. They had better pray to not get offers for him this summer.  Grin

In addition to Chelsea I expect an official offer to be made by PSG also. Comparing the two teams PSG are going to be in the Champions League of course. But on the other hand playing in the Premier League is also a privilege as the title there is more valuable than the Ligue 1 title for sure. I wonder whether he will get an offer from another Premier League team too.  Huh

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