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May 24, 2024, 08:57:58 PM
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I was a great achievement for Atlanta and Gasperini. They won the game against a team like Leverkusen while Leverkusen didn't a single game after 51 games even against much stronger teams and now a team like Atalanta with Gasperini could beat them while I was not expecting to see this coming for them.
If I'm not wrong the last time Atalanta won the Europa League title was 61 years ago and now after 61 years they won this tournament again while none could ever expect to see them beating a team like Leverkusen in this situation.
Actually in recent football Atlanta happens to be the only Italian team to have won the Europa of which is a record that even top Italian team have not been able to achieve Ina very long time, the likes of Juventus, inter Milan and the other top teams which actually get to be top teams in the Italian league, they do finish at top four most times in the season so they haven't been able to qualify for the Europa or winning it.

I'm sure it never occurred to Atlanta they were going to be able to achieve such a goal at the beginning of the Europa league games untill the point they got to the semi finals where they were fixed against Liverpool them they taught it was going to be the end of the game for them but I think beating Liverpool was the greatest unlocking of their potential because since after then they got to play differently than they have ever done since the beginning of the season, they developed a new and all inclusive tactics that got them the kind of results they have desired the most.

In their second leg against Liverpool they employed a whole new tactics that got to work for them so well that they used it against Leverkusen and it still yielded the kind of results they have desired to get by the end of the game and lifting the trophy was the highest point of their achievement this season as they got what felt bigger than their domestic league title for the season for the first time in a very long time.

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May 24, 2024, 08:58:07 PM
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I was a great achievement for Atlanta and Gasperini. They won the game against a team like Leverkusen while Leverkusen didn't a single game after 51 games even against much stronger teams and now a team like Atalanta with Gasperini could beat them while I was not expecting to see this coming for them.
If I'm not wrong the last time Atalanta won the Europa League title was 61 years ago and now after 61 years they won this tournament again while none could ever expect to see them beating a team like Leverkusen in this situation.
Actually in recent football Atlanta happens to be the only Italian team to have won the Europa of which is a record that even top Italian team have not been able to achieve Ina very long time, the likes of Juventus, inter Milan and the other top teams which actually get to be top teams in the Italian league, they do finish at top four most times in the season so they haven't been able to qualify for the Europa or winning it.

I'm sure it never occurred to Atlanta they were going to be able to achieve such a goal at the beginning of the Europa league games untill the point they got to the semi finals where they were fixed against Liverpool them they taught it was going to be the end of the game for them but I think beating Liverpool was the greatest unlocking of their potential because since after then they got to play differently than they have ever done since the beginning of the season, they developed a new and all inclusive tactics that got them the kind of results they have desired the most.

In their second leg against Liverpool they employed a whole new tactics that got to work for them so well that they used it against Leverkusen and it still yielded the kind of results they have desired to get by the end of the game and lifting the trophy was the highest point of their achievement this season as they got what felt bigger than their domestic league title for the season for the first time in a very long time.

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May 24, 2024, 09:01:48 PM
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This should be the case because this season Napoli are far away from the competition and this is due to the management's failure to find the coach they need. Next season will be more difficult and maybe Napoli's target is not as far away as you are talking about, but if the coach's support is still the same then we doubt they will be able to make big changes for next season. When compared with Atalanta, it is true that Napoli is much better, but Atalanta has one prestigious title this season.

The expectations of coaching a big team and an ordinary team will be much different and the coach will be tested in many ways. About how he is able to handle and that will have to be seen when he is officially introduced and next season will be a good start for him to prove himself. Even though it's not easy, there's no harm in giving him a chance because at least he will try to bring good luck to the team.
A great coach who is full of experience can certainly raise the enthusiasm of a team to perform better. Napoli need to get a coach like that regardless of who they want to sign, but I definitely agree that Conte is the one who deserves the job.

Gian Piero Gasperini has been Atalanta coach since 2016 and recently won the Europa League title. That is the only title Gian Piero Gasperini has won in Serie A since he coached Atalanta, so I don't think Gasperini is the most desirable coach to take charge of Napoli next season. Conte is much more convincing for the job, but I don't understand the terms or some kind of agreement in question.

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May 24, 2024, 09:06:39 PM
Last edit: May 25, 2024, 06:38:11 AM by Chilwell
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I was a great achievement for Atlanta and Gasperini. They won the game against a team like Leverkusen while Leverkusen didn't a single game after 51 games even against much stronger teams and now a team like Atalanta with Gasperini could beat them while I was not expecting to see this coming for them.
If I'm not wrong the last time Atalanta won the Europa League title was 61 years ago and now after 61 years they won this tournament again while none could ever expect to see them beating a team like Leverkusen in this situation.

No one noticed their present they are only shouting at Liverpool and Leverkusen that's only this two teams are capable of meeting in the final but unfortunately Atalanta break through by destroying the two big teams to win the trophy, Gasperini will be so happy to make two record this season, first winning the title is the big, while the other one was ending career of Leverkusen unbeaten record, Atalanta are just for the super Cup Against Real Madrid or Dortmund who ever comes out victorious, honestly that match is going to be tough because am even started to have feelings that we will definitely see a surprise thing like we saw on Leverkusen and Atalanta, Atalanta did their own best to make life difficult for Leverkusen, despite Leverkusen hold on to ball possession, and other most important things that will lead to victory.

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May 24, 2024, 09:24:39 PM
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Genoa vs Bologna
The game just restarted for second half action and the hosts are leading by a goal which they got earlier on in the first half through a superb shot from Malinovsky. The game is what I'd expect of it to be; the home side pressing to make three points to lessen the gap between them and Napoli who are 10th placed and ensuring Bologna don't win.
Bologna just can't afford to lose tonight as they have everything to lose if they since their position in 3rd place will be really threatened because I don't think Juventus will want to lose their game against Monza tomorrow. As it is even a draw will not give them assurance that's why they will need to put in more effort in this second half, get their acts together and stop wasting chances because I doubt Genoa will want to rest on this slim win margin.
 

Genoa won the game, and still, to me, there is no point in them lessening the gap between Napoli because Napoli also have a game to still play, and we all know that they have a very high chance of winning, so is there any point? All what you will be considering in this game is that of Bologna, seeing they have a possibility of dropping down to the fourth position on the league because they are sharing the same points with Juventus, and Juventus still have a game to play against Monza, which I know they will also not like to lose such an opportunity. Juventus will have to win Monza just to make it above Bologna. To cut a long story short, even if they don’t win again, Monza, which I mean, even if their game ended in a draw, they will still share one point each, and Juventus will still make it to the third place in the table. So to me, it was really a sad game for Bologna, not for anything but for losing against Genoa. 

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For Napoli, if they haven't found a new coach then next season will still be hell for them. Finishing in 10th place in the standings was very bad for last season's Scudetto winners and it is true that what was done to Spalleti should not happen again. So we'll see who will replace Francesco Calzona later.

I am very surprised and it is a big shame for Napoli to finish in that position after winning the Scudetto last season. As Napoli stands now, they need a total reform in the club, maybe the players or the coach or even the both of them. Napoli finishing on the 10th position should be a slap on their face after sacking their former coach that led them to winning the Scudetto last season. I know they still have some good players amongst them, and maybe their pattern doesn’t just correlate with one another and a total style of play needs to be developed soon. I hope things get better for them last season as they advance to the next season without participation in any European competition.

I think the Napoli team is a total disappointment this season because after the glory they had last season they allowed themselves to be in such a very poor performance and they didn't get a better Manager to revive the team and get it back it it's feet until the end of the season indeed it's a big shame for them. I didn't know what went wrong in the team but they made the biggest mistakes of their life by letting the coach that brought the cup to the team go, they should have given him more time to better the performance of the players and right now the team plays like they don't know what they are doing as they will keep losing focus and matches if they can't get a good playing pattern because nothing is working in the team. They need a total turn around because they have the same number of players they won the league with them last season and not qualifying in any European competition best season, I think they need a manager that will work on the team and ensure they compete with other teams next season.

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May 24, 2024, 09:42:06 PM
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Atalanta Won Europa League
 3 - 0
Unbeaten record of Leverkusen was broken by Atalanta.

Congratulate Atalanta for this title and for being the first and maybe only team in this season beat Leverkusen.
Exactly, how cool and great Atalanta, the only club that beat Leverkusen this season, in the final match of UEFA Europe League. As I said, this may not be expected by many people, but Atalanta really could break the record.
His highest achievement was not only winning the UEFA Europa League for Atalanta, but also "BEAT Leverkusen, much bigger even bigger and more prestigious."

So relieved to see Atalanta going home with that trophy.

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Fabrizio Romano:

"🔵⚫️🏆 Atalanta win the Europa League making history!

They are also the ONLY team able to beat Bayer Leverkusen this season, after 51 games undefeated.

It’s their second trophy EVER after Coppa Italia, 61 years ago 😮🇮🇹

Magic night for Gian Piero Gasperini and his team."


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https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1793384336068133148

And the leader again is that, in Serie A, because Bologna this time lost to champion Genoa, Atalanta is very capable of taking over Bologna's position in 4th position. This is something that is doubly encouraging for Atalanta. Their mood is very good this time.

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For Napoli, if they haven't found a new coach then next season will still be hell for them. Finishing in 10th place in the standings was very bad for last season's Scudetto winners and it is true that what was done to Spalleti should not happen again. So we'll see who will replace Francesco Calzona later.

I am very surprised and it is a big shame for Napoli to finish in that position after winning the Scudetto last season. As Napoli stands now, they need a total reform in the club, maybe the players or the coach or even the both of them. Napoli finishing on the 10th position should be a slap on their face after sacking their former coach that led them to winning the Scudetto last season. I know they still have some good players amongst them, and maybe their pattern doesn’t just correlate with one another and a total style of play needs to be developed soon. I hope things get better for them last season as they advance to the next season without participation in any European competition.
Napoli really needs a major overhaul, especially regarding player mentality and being able to maintain consistent game performance. Because this season, after changing coaches several times, Napoli has not improved, but has even gotten worse, even though the players left by coach Spalletti have not changed much. In the end they had to settle for being in 10th place in the Serie A standings, as champions of Serie A last season, of course this is something that is difficult to understand. Their performance was very bad from the start of the season to the end of the season. Never mind defending the Serie A title, they can even enter the UCL zone if they fail. .

I want to correct Spalletti's dismissal, actually he was not fired but he resigned after winning the Serie A title. It's hard to understand but maybe it was the best decision, for coach Luciano Spalletti he chose to take a short break without coaching, for Napoli the decision he took was very difficult Now it is proven that Napoli's condition is getting worse. Yes. Napoli should be able to recover next season because they are only focused on Serie A because they are not competing in Europe.

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May 24, 2024, 11:20:29 PM
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Their performance was very bad from the start of the season to the end of the season. Never mind defending the Serie A title, they can even enter the UCL zone if they fail. .
They have failed to enter next UCL, in fact they can only finish in 10th position. Or, for example, if they can move up a level, at most they can only finish in 9th position. And that's already stuck. So this season, Napoli has indeed experienced a decline in performance and achievements in all respects:
- Failed to defend the Serie A title
- Failed to get any champion
- Failed to enter the UCL qualification zone
- even failed to just enter the UEFA Europa Conference League.

This big failure was really hard for Napoli, but since Spalletti left, Napoli have really lost their direction and strength, especially the solidarity of the entire team and coach.

Apart from that, don't forget, that soon there will be a match between Genoa v Bologna and I think this match will be interesting too, because Genoa is not a weak team at all.
Genoa beat Bologna  with 2 - 0 goals.. Yapp, this time, Bologna was defeated.
Even though this is like a farewell for Bologna and Motta. It has been rumored that he has signed a contract with Juventus. Maybe it's true that they are already not chasing victory, but they should really be careful and also optimize their last match this season. But is it true that Motta's departure is one of the reasons why the players are not so optimal this time?


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Napoli really needs a major overhaul, especially regarding player mentality and being able to maintain consistent game performance. Because this season, after changing coaches several times, Napoli has not improved, but has even gotten worse, even though the players left by coach Spalletti have not changed much. In the end they had to settle for being in 10th place in the Serie A standings, as champions of Serie A last season, of course this is something that is difficult to understand. Their performance was very bad from the start of the season to the end of the season. Never mind defending the Serie A title, they can even enter the UCL zone if they fail. .

A Defending Champions finishing 10th in the standings is a big shame for the club. This is a big failure for the Players and coach, but the biggest responsible for this failure is the board of the club. Their decisions have led Napoli to this such of situation which has wasted the efforts of club's developments for years. This could lead Napoli back to mediocrity era, like the era after Maradona won the league.

It looks easy to ruin a glory with few bad decisions after a long effort of developments. Luciano Spalletti leaving the club was not well-anticipated by the club that lead them to hire a coach, Rudy Garcia, who is not well-connected to the club and the ambition. As a Champion of Italy, they should have hired an experienced coach who is able to maintain the performances of the team.

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May 24, 2024, 11:53:29 PM
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Napoli really needs a major overhaul, especially regarding player mentality and being able to maintain consistent game performance. Because this season, after changing coaches several times, Napoli has not improved, but has even gotten worse, even though the players left by coach Spalletti have not changed much. In the end they had to settle for being in 10th place in the Serie A standings, as champions of Serie A last season, of course this is something that is difficult to understand. Their performance was very bad from the start of the season to the end of the season. Never mind defending the Serie A title, they can even enter the UCL zone if they fail. .

A Defending Champions finishing 10th in the standings is a big shame for the club. This is a big failure for the Players and coach, but the biggest responsible for this failure is the board of the club. Their decisions have led Napoli to this such of situation which has wasted the efforts of club's developments for years. This could lead Napoli back to mediocrity era, like the era after Maradona won the league.

It looks easy to ruin a glory with few bad decisions after a long effort of developments. Luciano Spalletti leaving the club was not well-anticipated by the club that lead them to hire a coach, Rudy Garcia, who is not well-connected to the club and the ambition. As a Champion of Italy, they should have hired an experienced coach who is able to maintain the performances of the team.
Yes, Serie A champion Napoli is in decline: Is it the fault of the club owner? Napoli is facing a "complete failure" season. The draw with Fiorentina in the penultimate round caused the Naples team to lose 9th place. Now, it is impossible to help Napoli reverse the situation, which has become worse since coach Spalletti announced his departure after winning Serie A last season. Lackluster attack, lacking sharpness, and not creating clear opportunities to penetrate the opponent's defense is what the current champion can do. When the duo Cristiano Giuntoli and Luciano Spalletti left, many people thought Napoli would collapse. But no one expected it to come so soon. And most of all, De Laurentiis has never had enough patience with failed coaches.

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May 25, 2024, 12:30:22 AM
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Apart from that, don't forget, that soon there will be a match between Genoa v Bologna and I think this match will be interesting too, because Genoa is not a weak team at all.
Genoa beat Bologna  with 2 - 0 goals.. Yapp, this time, Bologna was defeated.
Even though this is like a farewell for Bologna and Motta. It has been rumored that he has signed a contract with Juventus. Maybe it's true that they are already not chasing victory, but they should really be careful and also optimize their last match this season. But is it true that Motta's departure is one of the reasons why the players are not so optimal this time?

this result was definitely surprising for a lot of people, including me. I thought this match was going to be a win for Bologna. But Genoa was able to win this match easily. Well, I guess I should not say easily because they had only 26% of the possession of the ball throughout the whole match. I would say that they have done a good job to actually score 2 goals. This match is probably not going to have any effect on the table at all. Genoa is going to finish at the mid-table. On the other hand, bologna is going to finish in the top five positions and will participate in the Champions League competition. But I have a feeling that Atalanta is going to finish ahead of them because they still have two matches left and they are only two points behind Bologna. And they are in also great form as well. By the way, the performance from Bologna has actually not been that good towards the end of the season. They could have done better in the last five matches for sure

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Genoa beat Bologna  with 2 - 0 goals.. Yapp, this time, Bologna was defeated.
Even though this is like a farewell for Bologna and Motta. It has been rumored that he has signed a contract with Juventus. Maybe it's true that they are already not chasing victory, but they should really be careful and also optimize their last match this season. But is it true that Motta's departure is one of the reasons why the players are not so optimal this time?
The defeat of Bologna makes last matches in Serie A more exciting but it is not good news for Roma.

Roma need Atalanta to end this season at the fifth position, not at any higher rank but Bologna already finished this season with 68 points, Atalanta have 66 points but they have to more matches and if they win only one of two remaining matches, they will at least end at the fourth positon. If it happens, Roma will not get a spot to Champions League, this defeat of Bologna is very bad news for Roma. Will Atalanta lose all two remaining matches or get like one draw, one defeat, I don't know. If there is no pressure from FIGC on Atalanta to help Roma, it's impossible for Roma to get that spot.

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May 25, 2024, 01:37:51 AM
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Some Serie A teams still have to compete for the season. As for the relegation zone, it leaves the search for 1 team that will be relegated. Because the bottom 2 teams have no chance of catching up with the points at the top. While from Serie B Parma and Como are confirmed to move up to Serie A next season.

They are sure to replace Sassuolo and Salernitana because Empoli still has a chance to stay afloat due to a fairly thin points gap. This is the same as the teams replacing from Series B. Currently Venezia are up to their final awaiting the result of the Ternana and Catanzaro match.  So far Venezia are better in the rankings but I also think these 3 clubs are equally strong. They will work hard for 1 place in Series A.

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May 25, 2024, 03:35:39 AM
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Napoli really needs a major overhaul, especially regarding player mentality and being able to maintain consistent game performance. Because this season, after changing coaches several times, Napoli has not improved, but has even gotten worse, even though the players left by coach Spalletti have not changed much. In the end they had to settle for being in 10th place in the Serie A standings, as champions of Serie A last season, of course this is something that is difficult to understand. Their performance was very bad from the start of the season to the end of the season. Never mind defending the Serie A title, they can even enter the UCL zone if they fail. .

I don't think I can say that, not really a major overhaul would solve them problems, at least they still have players within the club who wants to still show what they've got.
They should focus on selling names like Victor Oshime and Khivicha Kvaratskhelia so they can make good and solid profits from them sale. When that's done completely, then they can now focus on bringing in yougins with talent, quality and passion to play.

Stuffs like this happen, but these are same players used by Spalletti, Yes? This is enough reason why the coaches brought in are the problem, from Rudi Garcia to Walter Mazzari and whoever they brought in further.

It's not a time now to complain too much,  they should focus on what's important which is finishing strong and going so hard in the next transfer window which should further prepare them ahead for the new season.

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May 25, 2024, 03:44:36 AM
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this result was definitely surprising for a lot of people, including me. I thought this match was going to be a win for Bologna. But Genoa was able to win this match easily. Well, I guess I should not say easily because they had only 26% of the possession of the ball throughout the whole match. I would say that they have done a good job to actually score 2 goals.
It's not a surprise for me when the season ends because anything can happen. Clubs that are guaranteed to qualify for the Champions League next season are sometimes like that when they show that they don't need to work hard in their last match and it's better to play more relaxed because they have secure the ticket, so why fight until the end, after all, his position is still in the top 5. Moreover, Thiago Motta may no longer be serious about coaching Bologna for the last time because his club is already in its best position, which must be watched out for when the club is in 5th place and has a point difference small with rank 6 so Bologna must optimize its performance to widen the gap.

Currently the difference in points with the top 6 is quite far so whatever Roma does will not prevent them from appearing in the Champions League next season, the top 5 clubs will grace the Champions League. New clubs such as Bologna and Atalanta will shake up the Champions League competition this season. Napoli, Lazio, Milan and Inter Milan were unable to do so and only ended up in the top 16. I hope next season the Serie A representative clubs can perform better in the Champions League.
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Genoa is indeed a team that cannot be underestimated. Even on h2h in the last 5 meetings, Genoa is quite superior with 2 wins and 2 draws and only 1 loss. Even at the start of the season, when Genoa visited Bologna's headquarters, the result of the match was a draw. Which means that even then Genoa could overwhelm the home team. And in the final match of the season, Genoa will be the host because the match will take place at the Luigi Ferraris stadium, which is Genoa's headquarters. And maybe this match will be a fierce match and I might also agree that this match could end in a draw. Even though Bologna has now turned into a strong team, I'm not sure they will win this match easily. They might even lose.

Yes, Genoa are playing well this season, especially home games... Bologna also had a great season and even if they lose, they will stay in the Champions League zone... For both teams, this match doesn't decide anything and they can play any way they want... It's probably hard to predict the winner, but I think that Genoa won't lose...
Genoa turned out to be able to win the match. Even with a pretty good score of 2-0. With this, Bologna still cannot improve their bad results when facing Genoa. but besides all that, Bologna is still safe in the Champions League zone. And the results of this match did not change anything for either team. Even though Genoa won, they didn't get anything other than a sense of pride because they were able to beat the team that is currently ranked 4th, namely Bologna. And Genoa beat Bologna so often that this isn't surprising.

And today there will be more matches that should be easy to predict. Because many matches seem to bring together strong teams and teams that are not so strong. But because this is the last match of the season, perhaps a surprising result could occur.

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May 25, 2024, 04:14:15 AM
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Even though they lost, I don't think it's an important result anymore for Bologna because they have already confirmed their place in the Champions League next season and vice versa for Genoa this is an important result so they don't have to bother thinking about finishing in the bottom table and they closed it by finishing in the middle of the table. .

Bologna certainly only feels the loss of failing to defend their third place finish and they also have to give their place to Juventus who will play Monza today. Winning or losing won't mean anything to Juventus because they will still finish in their current position and at least they won't be below Bologna just by losing on goal difference.

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Exactly, how cool and great Atalanta, the only club that beat Leverkusen this season, in the final match of UEFA Europe League. As I said, this may not be expected by many people, but Atalanta really could break the record.
His highest achievement was not only winning the UEFA Europa League for Atalanta, but also "BEAT Leverkusen, much bigger even bigger and more prestigious."

I agree with you. Congratulations to Atalanta who not only succeeded in becoming European League champions but succeeded in becoming the first team to break Liverpool's unbeaten record. A solid game of pressure and defense meant Leverkusen had no chances on the night. When the match had been going on for a few minutes, I saw that Atalanta was much more dominant than Leverkusen. Atalanta seems to rely on man to man marking because every leverkusen player will be marked by an Atalanta player. The Italian league is famous for its defense so it will be very effective to rely on man to man marking. Once again congratulations to Atalanta.

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Jatiluhung
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May 25, 2024, 04:48:11 AM
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Even though they lost, I don't think it's an important result anymore for Bologna because they have already confirmed their place in the Champions League next season and vice versa for Genoa this is an important result so they don't have to bother thinking about finishing in the bottom table and they closed it by finishing in the middle of the table. .

Bologna certainly only feels the loss of failing to defend their third place finish and they also have to give their place to Juventus who will play Monza today. Winning or losing won't mean anything to Juventus because they will still finish in their current position and at least they won't be below Bologna just by losing on goal difference.
Bologna actually played well and they continued to control the ball in the match but unfortunately they had difficulty penetrating Genoa's defense. And Genoa actually found a gap in Bologna's defense. I think Bologna will win this match. But it turns out that even though Bologna looked very strong in the last few matches, they were still unable to beat Genoa. It seems like Bologna is always unlucky when facing Genoa.

But currently the positions of Juventus and Bologna could be overtaken by Atalanta. Because Atalanta has 2 matches remaining. And if Atalanta wins in 1 match then Atalanta will finish in 4th place. Meanwhile, if Atalanta wins in two matches then Atalanta will finish in 3rd place.

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