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September 20, 2022, 07:35:40 PM
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It is written in all the newspapers and sports sections in Germany, Bayern Munich's worst start ever. Or at least in 30 years. I have no doubts that they will still become champions, but the odds will have increased considerably after this start. I didn't check, but the odds may have been 1.05 before the start of the competition and now 1.16 for example. Bayern is a team that can only win 10 games in a row. Maybe now it's just as well that there is a break because of the Nations League. That gives the coach the opportunity to think carefully about the past 7 games. They were lucky enough to win the Barcelona game. that could easily have gone wrong if Lewandowsky had been sharper.

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September 20, 2022, 08:58:20 PM
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We thought Bayern didn't get affected much after Lewandowski leave but after first three games they went to downhill pretty fast. I've never expected four games in a row without getting them any win. On one hand I'm glad their domination of a decade may come to an end, competition bring more excitement to Bundesliga again. On the other hand this might be a temporary setback. I just wish Dortmund and other contenders use this opportunity and make some point difference. So we can see more competitive league for whole season.
It is understandable, they are in an adjustment period and sometimes things happen and that is why we are seeing them lose points left and right. But I doubt that they would have this kind of trouble after they adjust to new roster. Losing to augsburg definitely looks like a big hit for them, and it does look like they are down the rankings for the time being.

But let's remember, this is the team that could win 10 games in a row and win the title with a run if they start to play like they used to. I still do not see them as "bad" team yet, they just have 5 point difference between the leader and that could be easily covered, very easily, so they just need to get back on the horse and start winning again.

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September 20, 2022, 09:06:00 PM
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It is written in all the newspapers and sports sections in Germany, Bayern Munich's worst start ever. Or at least in 30 years. I have no doubts that they will still become champions, but the odds will have increased considerably after this start. I didn't check, but the odds may have been 1.05 before the start of the competition and now 1.16 for example. Bayern is a team that can only win 10 games in a row. Maybe now it's just as well that there is a break because of the Nations League. That gives the coach the opportunity to think carefully about the past 7 games. They are lucky enough to win the Barcelona game. that's could easily have gone wrong if Lewandowsky had been sharper.
Indeed everyone are counting on this break to see Bayern get back to their usual form.
Kahn and the other folks in Bayern are insisting that Nagelsmann is the best choice and shouldn't be replaced but of course this opinion might change if the results won't improve. It is sad to see Bayern doing like that. I understand some people like to see Bundesliga more competitive but I would like to see competitiveness by better performance of teams rather than a drop of the best one..

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September 20, 2022, 09:11:16 PM
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In my opinion, every management of a team has its own perspective when facing a problem.  However, on average, the club will kick its coach when the team's performance falls.  Bayern Munich management may have their own point of view or they have a long-term contract with Nagelsmann, so if the Munich management kicked him out, of course there will be a large compensation that must be paid.  Besides, maybe it's still early in the season and management is still giving him time to improve Munich's performance.
So apparently Bayern Munich is not as good as expected this season? But it doesn't seem like a big problem because Bayern Munich's mentality is very strong to bounce back from some bad results in their last 4 matches. Bayern Munich is an established team, they are even very strong in Champions League but not good in their 4 domestic match.

If their current manager is fired, then I think management should prepare some money for compensation. That is stated in the coach's contract with the team, and every coach will get it if in the end the management wants to take a shortcut by expelling his coach.

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September 20, 2022, 09:18:21 PM
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Bayern Munich president has stated that they aren't intending to sack Nagelsmann after the recent poor results in the Bundesliga. I also think that it would be very meaningless because the main issue is obviously not his management. The problem is that they don't have a solid striker like Lewandowski anymore. This is the source of their being inadequate in terms of productivity. They can't go on with making their wingers play as forward players. For example Manchester City tried this in the past when they didn't have any striker and it affected their scoring performance quite much.

Like most people, I also think that Kane is the best candidate to be able to fill Lewandowski's place. I don't how much difficult it can be but they should be ready to use their financial power as much as possible to make this deal happen. They need to make the striker transfer in January at worst otherwise the rest of the season could be a nightmare for them. We might see them not retaining their title in the league and the Champions League would also get much more difficult for them after qualifying from the group.
besides kane, there is also speculation about cristiano ronaldo who is suitable to replace the figure of lewandowski at bayern. but to get kane is almost impossible because kane has already stated that he will not leave Tottenham. I think we don't have to talk about speculation about Bayern players because the transfer market is still a long way away, what the Bayern coach must focus on is finding the best position for Mane because I don't see him as a pure striker, he's more suitable as an assistant (assistant) like he was in the past (at Liverpool).

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September 20, 2022, 10:01:29 PM
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Many believe that Bayern Munich will not be German champion this season. I do not believe that. The other teams that are now in front of Bayern Munich in the table will not keep their form for the whole season. Freiburg and Berlin are playing internationally for the first time. That is a big burden for them. Hoffenheim and Dortmund will not make it easy for Bayern Munich though. But I do not think they will play at a high level the whole season.

I don't know who can believe this. To assess the naivety of such expectations, just look at the quotes of bookmakers:

Bayern Munich 1.14

Borussia Dortmund 9.70

RB Leipzig 27.70

Union Berlin 44.00

I wish I could be the one who believes that Bayern will not be champions and see such huge odds on its competitors.
By the way, 1.14 for Bavaria looks quite attractive - many times better than a bank deposit and about the same reliable.
The German bundesliga is a boring league to me because there are no teams who are competent enough to challenge Bayern for the Bundesliga tittle this season.It is very obvious that Munich are the only team who can claim that tittle back to back because the only team that would have given them fierce competition is Dortmund,and Bayern most atimes sign their best players from them to weaken them,that has been the tactics that Bayern used for some years ago.Therefore,this season too is going to be for Bayern,and I don't see any team who can fight with them for the tittle.
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September 20, 2022, 10:30:55 PM
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Bayern Munich president has stated that they aren't intending to sack Nagelsmann after the recent poor results in the Bundesliga. I also think that it would be very meaningless because the main issue is obviously not his management. The problem is that they don't have a solid striker like Lewandowski anymore. This is the source of their being inadequate in terms of productivity. They can't go on with making their wingers play as forward players. For example Manchester City tried this in the past when they didn't have any striker and it affected their scoring performance quite much.

besides kane, there is also speculation about cristiano ronaldo who is suitable to replace the figure of lewandowski at bayern. but to get kane is almost impossible because kane has already stated that he will not leave Tottenham. I think we don't have to talk about speculation about Bayern players because the transfer market is still a long way away, what the Bayern coach must focus on is finding the best position for Mane because I don't see him as a pure striker, he's more suitable as an assistant (assistant) like he was in the past (at Liverpool).

It is not the problem of the coach and not of the club also. I would have blamed the coach why he let a striker go without getting another striker. He thought that Mane will work for him. Many is not a striker and he shouldn't be used as a striker. He should be played in his favourite wing where he could fully exploit. 

Bayern Munich needs a natural striker and Harry Kane is not an option for now, not even when the club has started looking very promising to win a trophy.

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September 20, 2022, 11:45:51 PM
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Bayern Munich president has stated that they aren't intending to sack Nagelsmann after the recent poor results in the Bundesliga. I also think that it would be very meaningless because the main issue is obviously not his management. The problem is that they don't have a solid striker like Lewandowski anymore. This is the source of their being inadequate in terms of productivity. They can't go on with making their wingers play as forward players. For example Manchester City tried this in the past when they didn't have any striker and it affected their scoring performance quite much.
Like most people, I also think that Kane is the best candidate to be able to fill Lewandowski's place.

Well i don't think that the only reason why Bayern Munich had so many unsuccessful matches in the Bundesliga now is the fact alone that Lewandowski isn't playing for them anymore. I mean if you watched the match of Bayern Munich vs Barca in the Champions Leauge then it is obvious, that Lewandowski also misses big chances to score. This also happened in the seasons when he played for Bayern.
I think a big factor is still that Bayern is just extremely unlucky at the moment. They should never lose a match like the one against Augsburg for example. Even if Bayern was not able to score they should have achieve at least a draw there, but they received a goal that was completely unlucky again. Of course it is also not good that Mane seems to be not in shape at the moment.
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September 21, 2022, 02:05:24 AM
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Bayern Munich president has stated that they aren't intending to sack Nagelsmann after the recent poor results in the Bundesliga. I also think that it would be very meaningless because the main issue is obviously not his management. The problem is that they don't have a solid striker like Lewandowski anymore. This is the source of their being inadequate in terms of productivity. They can't go on with making their wingers play as forward players. For example Manchester City tried this in the past when they didn't have any striker and it affected their scoring performance quite much.
besides kane, there is also speculation about cristiano ronaldo who is suitable to replace the figure of lewandowski at bayern. but to get kane is almost impossible because kane has already stated that he will not leave Tottenham. I think we don't have to talk about speculation about Bayern players because the transfer market is still a long way away, what the Bayern coach must focus on is finding the best position for Mane because I don't see him as a pure striker, he's more suitable as an assistant (assistant) like he was in the past (at Liverpool).
It is not the problem of the coach and not of the club also. I would have blamed the coach why he let a striker go without getting another striker. He thought that Mane will work for him. Many is not a striker and he shouldn't be used as a striker. He should be played in his favourite wing where he could fully exploit. 
Bayern Munich needs a natural striker and Harry Kane is not an option for now, not even when the club has started looking very promising to win a trophy.

Bayern Munich's match strategy is good. The players in their squad are also talented. The only weakness in their team is that they don't have a regular scorer. No player has yet filled Lewandowski's void. This is why we are not getting good performances from Bayern Munich. I agree with you that Harry Kane is perfect for Bayern Munich's attack. But Ronaldo is not suitable for this position. Because he is old enough now. Bayern Munich's position won't change if they can't land a regular scorer like Kane or Haaland. Maybe they need to change their match strategy or they need to find a regular scorer now.



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We thought Bayern didn't get affected much after Lewandowski leave but after first three games they went to downhill pretty fast. I've never expected four games in a row without getting them any win. On one hand I'm glad their domination of a decade may come to an end, competition bring more excitement to Bundesliga again. On the other hand this might be a temporary setback. I just wish Dortmund and other contenders use this opportunity and make some point difference. So we can see more competitive league for whole season.

I think, Lewandowski absence from Bayern Munich is really affecting the team in this season because they find it difficult to defeat all those small teams they used to defeated in last season. Bayern Munich coach need to work hard in this season to make their fans happy so that what happened to Chelsea coach will not happen to him, because the four matches they played no good result for the team. Dortmund players are very good in this season but I don't think they can finish this season well, because they are still lacking in the area of defense which is really affecting them sometimes not to achieve victory.

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We thought Bayern didn't get affected much after Lewandowski leave but after first three games they went to downhill pretty fast. I've never expected four games in a row without getting them any win. On one hand I'm glad their domination of a decade may come to an end, competition bring more excitement to Bundesliga again. On the other hand this might be a temporary setback. I just wish Dortmund and other contenders use this opportunity and make some point difference. So we can see more competitive league for whole season.
I think, Lewandowski absence from Bayern Munich is really affecting the team in this season because they find it difficult to defeat all those small teams they used to defeated in last season. Bayern Munich coach need to work hard in this season to make their fans happy so that what happened to Chelsea coach will not happen to him, because the four matches they played no good result for the team. Dortmund players are very good in this season but I don't think they can finish this season well, because they are still lacking in the area of defense which is really affecting them sometimes not to achieve victory.

Bayern Munich has scored just four goals in their last four games, and they have scored 15 goals in their first three games of the season. So without Lewandowski, Bayern Munich cannot be said to be weak. Perhaps they have a tactical problem, or they are prioritizing the Champions League more than Mathis in the Bundesliga, so we are not seeing better performance from them. Bayern Munich's squad is still strong enough. And they proved it in two Champions League matches. Now the coach has to find Bayern Munich's weakness in Bundesliga matches.

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We thought Bayern didn't get affected much after Lewandowski leave but after first three games they went to downhill pretty fast. I've never expected four games in a row without getting them any win. On one hand I'm glad their domination of a decade may come to an end, competition bring more excitement to Bundesliga again. On the other hand this might be a temporary setback. I just wish Dortmund and other contenders use this opportunity and make some point difference. So we can see more competitive league for whole season.

I think, Lewandowski absence from Bayern Munich is really affecting the team in this season because they find it difficult to defeat all those small teams they used to defeated in last season. Bayern Munich coach need to work hard in this season to make their fans happy so that what happened to Chelsea coach will not happen to him, because the four matches they played no good result for the team. Dortmund players are very good in this season but I don't think they can finish this season well, because they are still lacking in the area of defense which is really affecting them sometimes not to achieve victory.
I think now Bayern Munich fans are quite happy because they beat Barcelona in the Champions League, even though they didn't do the same in the Bundesliga. I think like that because Bayern Munich are too strong in the Bundesliga so with the points they're trailing now it's not too big of a problem for them. Because in the Bundesliga they still have a very long time to get back to their best and win their games.

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September 21, 2022, 08:53:53 AM
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We thought Bayern didn't get affected much after Lewandowski leave but after first three games they went to downhill pretty fast. I've never expected four games in a row without getting them any win. On one hand I'm glad their domination of a decade may come to an end, competition bring more excitement to Bundesliga again. On the other hand this might be a temporary setback. I just wish Dortmund and other contenders use this opportunity and make some point difference. So we can see more competitive league for whole season.
I think, Lewandowski absence from Bayern Munich is really affecting the team in this season because they find it difficult to defeat all those small teams they used to defeated in last season. Bayern Munich coach need to work hard in this season to make their fans happy so that what happened to Chelsea coach will not happen to him, because the four matches they played no good result for the team. Dortmund players are very good in this season but I don't think they can finish this season well, because they are still lacking in the area of defense which is really affecting them sometimes not to achieve victory.
Robert Lewandowski factor is already ended in Bayern Munich with their performance in Champions League here in Bundesliga they are having some issues and these are surely hurting them because they are not serious about this with their full command in this league even this is currently worst they have no win in last four matches but still they are capable of fighting back and having strong control for title race because teams having not quality like them in Bundesliga as we can check many big teams are struggling badly, and few average teams are having better results.
 
Bayern Munich is surely a big club, and they miss few targets in transfer window which needs to be fill in coming days and most chances they will do something in winter transfer window which will bring more improvement and things could be changed in coming days with good results for them also happen.
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I think now Bayern Munich fans are quite happy because they beat Barcelona in the Champions League, even though they didn't do the same in the Bundesliga. I think like that because Bayern Munich are too strong in the Bundesliga so with the points they're trailing now it's not too big of a problem for them. Because in the Bundesliga they still have a very long time to get back to their best and win their games.
If you look at Bayern Munich's recent game where they often lose or are deliberately drawn to draw, it's as if they were deliberately trying to keep them in the low bracket because it should be with the history of their journey when they won the champions league last year until now. this is why they are very easy to make a breakthrough and make many supporters surprised, but they choose to return to calm and silence.

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We thought Bayern didn't get affected much after Lewandowski leave but after first three games they went to downhill pretty fast. I've never expected four games in a row without getting them any win. On one hand I'm glad their domination of a decade may come to an end, competition bring more excitement to Bundesliga again. On the other hand this might be a temporary setback. I just wish Dortmund and other contenders use this opportunity and make some point difference. So we can see more competitive league for whole season.

I think, Lewandowski absence from Bayern Munich is really affecting the team in this season because they find it difficult to defeat all those small teams they used to defeated in last season. Bayern Munich coach need to work hard in this season to make their fans happy so that what happened to Chelsea coach will not happen to him, because the four matches they played no good result for the team. Dortmund players are very good in this season but I don't think they can finish this season well, because they are still lacking in the area of defense which is really affecting them sometimes not to achieve victory.
Lewandowski can be considered as a goal machine for bayern. You will not find a characteristic that available in someone by replacing it with others. Lewandowski was too old and yeah this was true but it doesn't mean his performance was dropping a lot. I do believe if this is giving a huge impact to the performance from the bayern. this time union's player are the best compared with dortmund. If bayern will able to finish at the number 1 position and this gonna be a miracle that will happen only one in so many seasons.

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September 21, 2022, 10:05:05 AM
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I think now Bayern Munich fans are quite happy because they beat Barcelona in the Champions League, even though they didn't do the same in the Bundesliga. I think like that because Bayern Munich are too strong in the Bundesliga so with the points they're trailing now it's not too big of a problem for them. Because in the Bundesliga they still have a very long time to get back to their best and win their games.
If you look at Bayern Munich's recent game where they often lose or are deliberately drawn to draw, it's as if they were deliberately trying to keep them in the low bracket because it should be with the history of their journey when they won the champions league last year until now. this is why they are very easy to make a breakthrough and make many supporters surprised, but they choose to return to calm and silence.
no one will doubt the ability of the squad from Munich in the Bundesliga. no one has bothered Munich all this time. they will appear calm in the Bundes Liga but very focused on the Champions League.
Munich knows that their competitors in the Champions League are strong teams. they must appear consistent to get into the finals.
the Bundesliga games I think they will finish by the middle of the season. and Munich's form will surprise their current opponents.



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Lewandowski can be considered as a goal machine for bayern. You will not find a characteristic that available in someone by replacing it with others. Lewandowski was too old and yeah this was true but it doesn't mean his performance was dropping a lot.
Lewandowski is a goal machine since his time in Dortmund. His transfer to Bayern and his time there help him to reach to a higher level. He made history in Bayern and even now he is older, his skills are still there and his body is still good enough to play at highest level. Bayern did not believe that he can play well in near future so they let him moving to Barcelona in a free transfer. Anyway, so far he has achieved so many good things in Barcelona and I think it is just his start.

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I do believe if this is giving a huge impact to the performance from the bayern. this time union's player are the best compared with dortmund. If bayern will able to finish at the number 1 position and this gonna be a miracle that will happen only one in so many seasons.
The departure of Lewandowski has effect on Bayern but more important, their issues are not only in Lewandowski. The current players have been playing together many years and many of them are old enough so their performance is not good as same as when they were younger.

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September 21, 2022, 10:28:19 AM
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We thought Bayern didn't get affected much after Lewandowski leave but after first three games they went to downhill pretty fast. I've never expected four games in a row without getting them any win. On one hand I'm glad their domination of a decade may come to an end, competition bring more excitement to Bundesliga again. On the other hand this might be a temporary setback. I just wish Dortmund and other contenders use this opportunity and make some point difference. So we can see more competitive league for whole season.


We have the same assumptions as you. however, on the way Bayern Munich had problems, especially their concentration was divided for the champions league as well.
IMO, that is what triggered the initial decline experienced by Nagelsmann's squad. as you said, on the other hand the Bundesliga feels more competitive.
Bayern's dominance for a decade is beginning to be shaken. as for Sadio Mane, in his initial journey he showed very positive results. but Bayern Munich's change of strategy made Mane unable to follow quickly, I think Mane needs more time to adapt to Nagelsmann's coaching style. as for what is happening to Bayern Munich for now, this is an opportunity for other clubs to be able to compete to get as many points as possible.

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September 21, 2022, 10:40:40 AM
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We thought Bayern didn't get affected much after Lewandowski leave but after first three games they went to downhill pretty fast. I've never expected four games in a row without getting them any win. On one hand I'm glad their domination of a decade may come to an end, competition bring more excitement to Bundesliga again. On the other hand this might be a temporary setback. I just wish Dortmund and other contenders use this opportunity and make some point difference. So we can see more competitive league for whole season.


We have the same assumptions as you. however, on the way Bayern Munich had problems, especially their concentration was divided for the champions league as well.
IMO, that is what triggered the initial decline experienced by Nagelsmann's squad. as you said, on the other hand the Bundesliga feels more competitive.
Bayern's dominance for a decade is beginning to be shaken. as for Sadio Mane, in his initial journey he showed very positive results. but Bayern Munich's change of strategy made Mane unable to follow quickly, I think Mane needs more time to adapt to Nagelsmann's coaching style. as for what is happening to Bayern Munich for now, this is an opportunity for other clubs to be able to compete to get as many points as possible.

@ingiltere to be honest I’m not so sure if Bayern’s reign will end so soon, because as we have seen in the past seasons that their competitors always stumble in the later stages of the season, and then Bayern ends up comfortably winning the league title.

Lastly even if they do end up losing the league title this season then I feel that they’ll go for a massive rebuild next season, hence it’ll only be a temporary setback but one must not consider them defeated just yet, because they do have quality player’s that can help them bounce back quickly as the season progresses.
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September 21, 2022, 10:55:04 AM
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We thought Bayern didn't get affected much after Lewandowski leave but after first three games they went to downhill pretty fast. I've never expected four games in a row without getting them any win. On one hand I'm glad their domination of a decade may come to an end, competition bring more excitement to Bundesliga again. On the other hand this might be a temporary setback. I just wish Dortmund and other contenders use this opportunity and make some point difference. So we can see more competitive league for whole season.
Yes, it is not good news for Bayern Munich fans, but it is something that is interesting for the continuity of the Bundesliga. As said, the Bundesliga will be more competitive if it puts Bayern Munich below the first rank. The reason is we have seen how they dominate by giving away points when they lead the standings. Meanwhile, now, the tight distance between the teams leads to intense competition. I hope whoever wins later, but the league is competitive.

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