Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Lafu]

It's too early to say that Mane's move was a mistake. Firstly, I see that many analysts have complaints about Nagelsman, and this is logical - if a team plays according to a scheme that does not correspond to the current line-up, then this is not the fault of the players in not the best results.

Its not always the fault of the coach when the players dosnt bring the performance on the field , mostly and in case of Bayern Munich i guess its lot of games they have now.
And also maybe the rotation in the team , the defenders also dont playing every game together and so comes some problems when they get under pressure.
Lets look what the German players doing today against Hungary.

[MAAManda]

We don't see the continuation of matches in the major European leagues this week, this happened because of the international break.

So what have we found so far in the Bundesliga?

We find that Union Berlin, which is an underdog team, is in first place in the Bundesliga standings, followed by Borussia Dortmund, Freiburg and TSG Hoffenheim. It seems that this season's Bundesliga will be a very different Bundesliga from the Bundesliga we usually know. The dominance of Bayern Munich is no longer visible, even now they are only in fifth position in the standings.

[KTChampions]

Yes, this is an unusual season and there is a possibility that we will see some unexpected champions in the European championships - for example Roma or Udinese in Italy  But I doubt that this is possible in the Bundesliga. No matter how bad Bayern play, all competitors will play even worse and less consistently. In some segments they can show good results, but in general they are untenable.

I also think Bayern Munich still have the best chance of winning the title despite their poor form. Because if Munich can return to form, they will win all the matches consistently and occupy the top spot in the table. But I fear, if Union Berlin is able to continue their streak then it won't be easy for Bayern Munich to win the title. Not only is Union Berlin at the top of the points table, but their performance is also excellent right now. They scored 15 goals in 7 matches and conceded only 4 goals. Union Berlin now has the strongest defense in the league. If the defense can keep this strong, Union Berlin will be able to maintain the top spot on the table for a long time.

Miracles like Leicester do happen sometimes but they are very rare so I find it ridiculous to discuss the prospects for Union Berlin. It is far from a fact that they will even get into the top three teams at the end of the season. Look at bookmaker quotes for the championship:

Bayern Munich 1.14

Borussia Dortmund 9.75

RB Leipzig 27.90

Union Berlin 41.00

I think their current result is a mixture of a good calendar and good luck in the games, but further distance will fix it all.

[hahay]

It's too early to say that Mane's move was a mistake. Firstly, I see that many analysts have complaints about Nagelsman, and this is logical - if a team plays according to a scheme that does not correspond to the current line-up, then this is not the fault of the players in not the best results.

Its not always the fault of the coach when the players dosnt bring the performance on the field , mostly and in case of Bayern Munich i guess its lot of games they have now.
And also maybe the rotation in the team , the defenders also dont playing every game together and so comes some problems when they get under pressure.
Lets look what the German players doing today against Hungary.

If we consider the previous Bayern Munich at the time Nagelsmann had not joined here there was a saying about "it doesn't matter who coaches Bayern Munich because in the end they will still be winners". In that sentence at least it proves that Bayern Munich players will always have a way to keep their performances in the Bundesliga, but in the Nagelsmann era it seems that is no longer the case. Therefore, it is not surprising that recently there have been rumors that Nagelsmann will be sacked and his replacement candidate is Tuchel, I personally prefer these rumors to happen than those who always blame Mane.

[Tumanggor]

At the start of the competition, Sadio Mane really managed to captivate the day of the Die Bayern fans.  he can adapt quickly at the beginning of the season, but as the competition progresses. Sadio Mane, has difficulty adapting to the many changes in strategy and rotations made by Nagels. as a result in the last few matches, Mane did not contribute to scoring goals.
no doubt Nagel often uses Mane as a Finisher to replace Lewandowski's role, but it seems that Mane does not fit the position that Nagels wants. so Nagel had to rack his brain to change his strategy when playing his matches.

As a result, Bayern can't play at their best.

I can't say Sadio Mane is a flop now, but he still hasn't found the game he's used to playing like at Liverpool. Bayern Munich still haven't found the chemistry between their new signings. I think he still needs time for that, to get the best out of him. Even though it takes time, I'm sure Mane can show something that is his strength. The league has only started a few weeks, it's not as expected but we have to be a little patient to see Mane.

I agree with what you said that Nagelsmann must immediately find the best position to mane

from what I noticed when Mane was still at Liverpool, he is a striker who is more active in providing assists than scoring goals, that's what makes him unable to replace Lewandowski as a pure striker

Muller used to provide assists to Lewandowski and that made the Bayern forward line very sharp but now Muller is forced to provide assists to Mane, and I see that it doesn't fit

[Fesatmas]

I agree with what you said that Nagelsmann must immediately find the best position to mane

from what I noticed when Mane was still at Liverpool, he is a striker who is more active in providing assists than scoring goals, that's what makes him unable to replace Lewandowski as a pure striker

Muller used to provide assists to Lewandowski and that made the Bayern forward line very sharp but now Muller is forced to provide assists to Mane, and I see that it doesn't fit

They should be bolder to try something new, although this is not the time to experiment but it is worth a try to break the deadlock they are facing now, before it is too late. I still believe that they in the Bundesliga can still get to the top of the table again. But something different for the Champions League, that's what I emphasize.

[Lordhermes]

I can't say Sadio Mane is a flop now, but he still hasn't found the game he's used to playing like at Liverpool. Bayern Munich still haven't found the chemistry between their new signings. I think he still needs time for that, to get the best out of him. Even though it takes time, I'm sure Mane can show something that is his strength. The league has only started a few weeks, it's not as expected but we have to be a little patient to see Mane.

Now is not the time to conclude that, because all the new players have not played so long this season in their respective teams. And also each new player will need a different time to adjust to the old players in the team they occupy. For example like Mane where he hasn't fully adapted to the Bayern Munich team this season as you said and I think that's true. So it would not be complete if we had to conclude now for every achievement of all new players including Mane.

Mane will adapt,and he will become one of the best players at Bayern,it's all time,he was doing very well at Liverpool,and he has alot of task to fulfill because responsiblities will be on him to fill the void left by Lewandowski.We all know it will really be difficult to replace Lewandowski,but with time,even if he cannot do exactly what Lewa did at Bayern,he should atleast be able to score a number of goals that will make the fans happy.
Another thing is that he hasn't really blended well to the style of play of Bayern,while Lewandowski has really hit the ground running at Barca,and he is one of the leading scorers already at the league.But I know with time,Mane will do well.

[Slow death]

At the start of the competition, Sadio Mane really managed to captivate the day of the Die Bayern fans.  he can adapt quickly at the beginning of the season, but as the competition progresses. Sadio Mane, has difficulty adapting to the many changes in strategy and rotations made by Nagels. as a result in the last few matches, Mane did not contribute to scoring goals.
no doubt Nagel often uses Mane as a Finisher to replace Lewandowski's role, but it seems that Mane does not fit the position that Nagels wants. so Nagel had to rack his brain to change his strategy when playing his matches.

As a result, Bayern can't play at their best.

I can't say Sadio Mane is a flop now, but he still hasn't found the game he's used to playing like at Liverpool. Bayern Munich still haven't found the chemistry between their new signings. I think he still needs time for that, to get the best out of him. Even though it takes time, I'm sure Mane can show something that is his strength. The league has only started a few weeks, it's not as expected but we have to be a little patient to see Mane.

I think people shouldn't blame the mane, for him to be able to score goals it also depends on the whole team playing well so that they create good conditions for him to score goals on the field, what must be happening and that the coach of bayern needs to manage the team well position of each player so that positions in can give the mane the opportunity to score goals, a team is not just made up of a single player, the coach plays the main role in the team, if the coach of bayern is not managing to create a team good strategy with the current players so he needs to sign more players, we can't forget that Mane in liverpool had a time when the guy scored a lot of goals and didn't score goals, so he wouldn't be a player to replace lewandowski in the matter of scoring many goals, I think that should be clear to people

Mane will adapt,and he will become one of the best players at Bayern,it's all time

to be honest, I highly doubt that will happen, he is a good player and I believe he will contribute a lot to help the team. but he won't be the best bayern player of all time, that he won't be able to be

[Renampun]

Mane will adapt,and he will become one of the best players at Bayern,it's all time,he was doing very well at Liverpool,and he has alot of task to fulfill because responsiblities will be on him to fill the void left by Lewandowski.We all know it will really be difficult to replace Lewandowski,but with time,even if he cannot do exactly what Lewa did at Bayern,he should atleast be able to score a number of goals that will make the fans happy.
Another thing is that he hasn't really blended well to the style of play of Bayern,while Lewandowski has really hit the ground running at Barca,and he is one of the leading scorers already at the league.But I know with time,Mane will do well.

I'm not sure if Mane will be able to adapt to Bayern's fast and sharp playing pattern. If indeed Mane is a potential striker why did it take him so long to adapt, just look at how Lewandowski and Haaland quickly adapt to their new team because they are great strikers.
I see Musiala is more suitable to replace Lewandowski's position than Mane, currently Musiala has scored 4 goals for Bayern and I hope Nagelsmann puts Musiala in the position previously occupied by Lewandowski from now so he can adapt quickly.

[Velvet78]

Mane will adapt,and he will become one of the best players at Bayern,it's all time,he was doing very well at Liverpool,and he has alot of task to fulfill because responsiblities will be on him to fill the void left by Lewandowski.We all know it will really be difficult to replace Lewandowski,but with time,even if he cannot do exactly what Lewa did at Bayern,he should atleast be able to score a number of goals that will make the fans happy.
Another thing is that he hasn't really blended well to the style of play of Bayern,while Lewandowski has really hit the ground running at Barca,and he is one of the leading scorers already at the league.But I know with time,Mane will do well.

Actually Mane has already adapted to the style of Bayern Munich. His scoring 5 goals in 11 games so far must be a good proof for this. Mane is really a special player for every team he joins. After he left Liverpool they felt this absence too much very quickly. They are still feeling his absence though because his role was really crucial for the productivity of the team.

Now he might be the player who Bayern Munich mostly rely on now. Because they still don't have a striker and they are hopeful about their attackers to be better at scoring. Mane is trying his best but this can't go on like this. He should go back to his natural role as soon as possible after transferring a striker.

[cygan]

my claim is that the worse or less convincing bayern munich plays forward, the louder the call for a new top/world class striker. and since there were already rumors about Harry Kane (tottenham) this summer, i see him as the number #1 bayern would be interested in.

[Sterbens]

my claim is that the worse or less convincing bayern munich plays forward, the louder the call for a new top/world class striker. and since there were already rumors about Harry Kane (tottenham) this summer, i see him as the number #1 bayern would be interested in.

But will Tottenham Hotspur be willing to let Harry Kane go? I don't think so, because Harry Kane is one of the key players for Tottenham. Yes, Tottenham will not easily let Harry Kane go, because they themselves have yet to find a replacement for Harry Kane. If that happens it will disrupt the stability of Tottenham itself. Because now they are playing well in every game they live. This is not the first time that Kane has attracted many clubs, but Tottenham are reluctant to let go of the player.

[Avirunes]

my claim is that the worse or less convincing bayern munich plays forward, the louder the call for a new top/world class striker. and since there were already rumors about Harry Kane (tottenham) this summer, i see him as the number #1 bayern would be interested in.

Bayern can try all they want but I don't think he is gonna come. Remember Kane is a player that City also tried for with over 100m bid and still Spurs denied because they believe Kane as their crucial man and this was when Spurs were having their hard days - near to when Mourinho was sacked. With Conte now making things turn to good for Spurs I think it is very hard for Bayern to bring Kane as they have to convince both the club and the player. Answer is Club won't accept it first as they consider Kane as their crucial player and player won't accept because he has been playing for that club for quite long and I don't think he will say yes to an offer where he has to adjust outside of England.

[Zlantann]

But will Tottenham Hotspur be willing to let Harry Kane go? I don't think so, because Harry Kane is one of the key players for Tottenham. Yes, Tottenham will not easily let Harry Kane go, because they themselves have yet to find a replacement for Harry Kane. If that happens it will disrupt the stability of Tottenham itself. Because now they are playing well in every game they live. This is not the first time that Kane has attracted many clubs, but Tottenham are reluctant to let go of the player.

Like we saw players this season not considering money and moving to Barcelona because of the  love they have for the club and their personal dream to play for the team. Except Kane has personal love for Bayern Munich, that is when it would be possible for him to move to the club.

Tottenham has all that Kane needs. They now have quality players, a top class coach and the fans that see Kane as a demi-god. The club is also doing exceptional well in the UEFA champions league.

Would it be it more easier to win the world best player in England or in Germany? Maybe that might be another determining factor.

[Zackgeno96]

It could be that Lewandowsky's departure has more influence than we think. He was often the player who always managed to score, they have less now in the form of Muller and Sane. They cannot be compared with the man from Poland. They can't get any more players now. Mane is also a lesser striker than Lewandowsky, although he fulfills a completely different function. They should have brought in another striker when it became clear that he was leaving. I think Bayern are still a huge favorite to win the title, but they will really have to play better otherwise they will lose even more points with all the consequences that entails.

[terrorJR]

my claim is that the worse or less convincing bayern munich plays forward, the louder the call for a new top/world class striker. and since there were already rumors about Harry Kane (tottenham) this summer, i see him as the number #1 bayern would be interested in.

They have to spend Extra money for this player.
Apart from his contract which is still quite long, Kane is also now starting to recover the form he lost last season so I think Conte will hold on to this hard.
But if you look at Bayern's current condition, it's clear they need a new striker. At the moment Bayern's condition is not very good although I really like things like this but it's clear the top brass will find new ways to get their performance back to their original shape and of course new strikers are needed to maintain their current hegemony.

[Lafu]

If we consider the previous Bayern Munich at the time Nagelsmann had not joined here there was a saying about "it doesn't matter who coaches Bayern Munich because in the end they will still be winners". In that sentence at least it proves that Bayern Munich players will always have a way to keep their performances in the Bundesliga, but in the Nagelsmann era it seems that is no longer the case. Therefore, it is not surprising that recently there have been rumors that Nagelsmann will be sacked and his replacement candidate is Tuchel, I personally prefer these rumors to happen than those who always blame Mane.

I guess that we will dont see that happend or at least i dont expect it to happen that there will be a replacement with Tuchel for Nagelsmann.
For sure nobody can look into the future and what things are going on behind the scene , and i dont blame Mane , maybe its the same as with Sane.
Sometimes players have a bit of down time and it takes some extra time for getting out of the hole again.

[bekti3]

It's been busy the last few weeks when Mane left and was replaced by Mane but it was a natural thing because, as you said, every departure, especially for a player who has always been the focus of a club, will definitely have an impact and maybe with Bayern's current condition it's not impossible. some will think that this was the wrong decision to sell Lewandowski.

The Bayern Munich party who chose to sell Lewandowski was not a unilateral decision from his team, but also the decision of Lewandowski himself who no longer wanted to stay at Bayern Munich for this season. So the deal to sell him to Barcelona is a good thing and it's not wrong at all because Bayern Munich can still get good results this season if they are able to play consistently in every game they have left.

But still able to maintain it until next season is not it, even though feedback to Bayern in terms of finances was not met.
Bayern prefer money but I think in this case there is a bit of a mistake because we know Mane at Liverpool is one of the players with a long range but at Bayern he became a Targetman which was a bit of a hindrance.
They can still be consistent but for now it is still a bit difficult even with the results they are getting at the moment Nagelsmann is clearly a bit threatened from his position.

[YuginKadoya]

At the start of the competition, Sadio Mane really managed to captivate the day of the Die Bayern fans.  he can adapt quickly at the beginning of the season, but as the competition progresses. Sadio Mane, has difficulty adapting to the many changes in strategy and rotations made by Nagels. as a result in the last few matches, Mane did not contribute to scoring goals.
no doubt Nagel often uses Mane as a Finisher to replace Lewandowski's role, but it seems that Mane does not fit the position that Nagels wants. so Nagel had to rack his brain to change his strategy when playing his matches.

As a result, Bayern can't play at their best.

This goes to show how incompetent Nagelsmann is he doesn't really care about the players and what they think, and what they are capable of doing, not all players will surely adapt that fast to all of his strategies especially those not as skillful as Robert Lewandowski, yes Sadio Mane has the talent but he can not do all of it, he needs to adjust slowly, and he just recently arrives at Bayern Munich so he has a lot of adjusting to do and he can not properly do that in a small period of time,

I can't say Sadio Mane is a flop now, but he still hasn't found the game he's used to playing like at Liverpool. Bayern Munich still haven't found the chemistry between their new signings. I think he still needs time for that, to get the best out of him. Even though it takes time, I'm sure Mane can show something that is his strength. The league has only started a few weeks, it's not as expected but we have to be a little patient to see Mane.

This is pretty much the fact about Sadio Mane he surely needed more time in couping up to the strategies Nagelsmann has told him, and pretty much he is still not ready for that change, in position, play, and the whole chemistry thing, but for sure at the 1st day he surely wants to have a 1st impression to the Bayern fans, so he surely did a great performance on a low performed team and he quite got a spectacle and everyone thought that this is how Sadio Mane is playing but in fact, it backfires at him, because in the later runs, he isn't quite the guy on the 1st day of this season of the Bundesliga, but I think he just needs some time to adjust,

[baeva]

my claim is that the worse or less convincing bayern munich plays forward, the louder the call for a new top/world class striker. and since there were already rumors about Harry Kane (tottenham) this summer, i see him as the number #1 bayern would be interested in.

They have to spend Extra money for this player.
Apart from his contract which is still quite long, Kane is also now starting to recover the form he lost last season so I think Conte will hold on to this hard.
But if you look at Bayern's current condition, it's clear they need a new striker. At the moment Bayern's condition is not very good although I really like things like this but it's clear the top brass will find new ways to get their performance back to their original shape and of course new strikers are needed to maintain their current hegemony.

They won't be able to get new strikers until the winter, during the transfer window. As much as they are giving up their positions now, but so far so good, except for the striker position. The only hope now is that they just make it to this transfer window and not fall even lower in the table. It's been a long time since I've seen Bayern this low...