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Union Berlin should have won easily against Bochum but in fact Union Berlin could not make the fans happy, many fans were disappointed with this defeat, hopefully in the next match against Braga Union Berlin will get a win and not make himself hated by the fans. Union Berlin still has hope of a return to the top spot and should succeed in getting it.
This is a big surprise to see that Berlin was lost from Bochum. Does this seem that Berlin was not seriously fighting against Bochum in this match and probably underestimate the club? But, why? There is no need to lose any points to keep in the first standing, right? They seemed to dominate the match, but, they could not even make any goal until extra time. So, what did they focus on? Only making more ball possession maybe ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Whereas, whatever the match, the winner is the one with more goals, not the one with more ball possession. This is really disappointing performance of Union Berlin.
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October 25, 2022, 11:22:47 PM |
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I’m even too lazy to check bookmakers’ quotes, but I’m sure that Bayern’s odds for the title this year have returned to ridiculous values like 1.05 again, although formally Bayern is not in first place now and there are many competitors nearby.
Yes, very close: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ft9CyxCh.png&t=665&c=vIn8Wty4tRAfag) Even Dortmund and Leipzig are ranked higher. Champions Leage is best Union can realistically achieve. But I wouldn't be surprised if Union can finish above Dortmund and / or Leipzig.
Union Berlin should have won easily against Bochum but in fact Union Berlin could not make the fans happy, many fans were disappointed with this defeat, hopefully in the next match against Braga Union Berlin will get a win and not make himself hated by the fans. Union Berlin still has hope of a return to the top spot and should succeed in getting it.
This is a big surprise to see that Berlin was lost from Bochum. Does this seem that Berlin was not seriously fighting against Bochum in this match and probably underestimate the club? But, why? When we have a look at where Union has lost points so far, we can say Union is very strong at home but having some difficulties away. So, Bochum lost in Frankfurt and only got a draw in Mainz, while most games at home were won by Union Berlin. "Only" against Bayern, Union achieved a draw at home. Union has been playing very well at home while experiencing some difficulties away.
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This is a big surprise to see that Berlin was lost from Bochum. Does this seem that Berlin was not seriously fighting against Bochum in this match and probably underestimate the club? But, why? There is no need to lose any points to keep in the first standing, right? They seemed to dominate the match, but, they could not even make any goal until extra time. So, what did they focus on? Only making more ball possession maybe ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Union didn't wanna lose points from bochum. This is football when everything still remain unpredictable. Don't forget another bad result by big team from another league. It has almost the same result as berlin caused by it was loosing against the club that placed in the relegation zone. It seems like farmers league is not viable anymore for this league Bochum just proves if a team in relegation zone can sometime did something. but I’m sure that Bayern’s odds for the title this year have returned to ridiculous values like 1.05 again, although formally Bayern is not in first place now and there are many competitors nearby.
that odds is very suitable with what people called that as bayernliga. It's almost in the first place again with only 1 point gap.
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October 26, 2022, 09:31:45 AM |
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Well, maybe it's the match against Braga that might be a problem for Union Berlin in yesterday's match against Bochum, although I also believe that there will always be a moment where they will get a bad result. But to make things worse, Union Berlin lost by the team who are at the bottom of the table so any excuse that is made is like an excuse that is not right. Because after all, in the end only Bayern Munich is the only team that will be the top team in the standings at the end of the season, because it is difficult for other teams to be able to maintain their good position as is the case with Union Berlin at this moment.
obviously, that's why I assumed Union Berlin would slip due to its pretty hectic schedule. plus, they will play a match against Sporting Braga later. their squad is not filled with the players that Bayern Munich have, that's the problem that makes their consistency in doubt. and in fact, Buchum was able to win the match even though their rankings were completely opposite. next week, a match that is not easy for Union Berlin. most likely the result will be a draw or lose to Gladbach. But if I consider the next match, I think Freiburg have a good chance to take advantage of the situation to get closer to first place in the standings. Because Union Berlin, which will play against Monchengladbach, is basically not a weak team, it could be that Monchengladbach provides a strong match for Union Berlin so that the result is a draw or maybe Monchengladbach can win the match. Meanwhile, Bayern Munich will play against Mainz, I think Mainz is not an easy opponent to beat, because sometimes Mainz can beat Bayen Munich as happened last season. But indeed, the factor of playing at home for them will still give them an advantage for better results. But at least, Freiburg is the team that guarantees victory for the next match for the teams that are in the top four, because even though Freiburg will play away but the opponent Freiburg will face is Schalke who don't look good even Schalke is currently at the bottom of the table.
speaking of Freiburg, it's possible that the scenario will be the same as during the Bochum vs Union Berlin match. in the end they can also slip to maintain their ranking in the Bundesliga standings. Schalke vs Friburg, ranked very far. Friburg is ranked 3rd, while Schalke occupy the lowest zone on the standings board. however, if i refer to the asian handicap bet, which is where the odds are 1/2:0, isn't this a little weird considering the rankings of the two of them. Bayern vs Mainz, yes as you say. Mainz, is not an easy opponent to beat Bayern. however, as we mutually agreed. in this match, Bayern will win the match and reach the top of the Bundesliga standings.
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obviously, that's why I assumed Union Berlin would slip due to its pretty hectic schedule. plus, they will play a match against Sporting Braga later. their squad is not filled with the players that Bayern Munich have, that's the problem that makes their consistency in doubt. and in fact, Buchum was able to win the match even though their rankings were completely opposite.
next week, a match that is not easy for Union Berlin. most likely the result will be a draw or lose to Gladbach.
That ishow I see it too. The international games are an additional burden for Union Berlin. The players are not used to travelling so much back and forth. It would not be a bad thing if they slowly reached their breaking point. It is a normal process. It is good for them that they have already scored so many points in the Bundesliga. I think the next few weeks will be more difficult for them.
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I totally agree with you, seen in that match union berlin underestimated bochum too much, union berlin appeared surprising after they managed to beat dortmund, leipzig and managed to hold Bayern. Bayern must be very happy with this union defeat. tomorrow union will face Braga in the European league, don't know if they will lose or win against Braga.
SC Braga is one level above Union Berlin in the Europa League group standings with a very thin point difference. But I don't think that Union Berlin will let SC Braga win in that match, moreover it will take place at Union Berlin's home ground. Which is a motivation for Union Berlin to get full points and also to get a better position in order to qualify for the round of 16 later after the final match in early November.
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I totally agree with you, seen in that match union berlin underestimated bochum too much, union berlin appeared surprising after they managed to beat dortmund, leipzig and managed to hold Bayern. Bayern must be very happy with this union defeat. tomorrow union will face Braga in the European league, don't know if they will lose or win against Braga.
SC Braga is one level above Union Berlin in the Europa League group standings with a very thin point difference. But I don't think that Union Berlin will let SC Braga win in that match, moreover it will take place at Union Berlin's home ground. Which is a motivation for Union Berlin to get full points and also to get a better position in order to qualify for the round of 16 later after the final match in early November. Union Berlin started really bad the Europa League session and only in the last two games that they won against Malmo they recovered a lot of points.In this match it is paramount for them to win as that would also secure them higher chances for qualification if they manage to beat Braga. However it is exactly in such games that I avoid to bet on,when a team needs absolutely to win in order to achieve something,there is big pressure under them and this may not always translate in better motivation and better play in the field so I refrain from betting here.
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I’m even too lazy to check bookmakers’ quotes, but I’m sure that Bayern’s odds for the title this year have returned to ridiculous values like 1.05 again, although formally Bayern is not in first place now and there are many competitors nearby.
Yes, very close: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ft9CyxCh.png&t=665&c=vIn8Wty4tRAfag) Even Dortmund and Leipzig are ranked higher. Champions Leage is best Union can realistically achieve. But I wouldn't be surprised if Union can finish above Dortmund and / or Leipzig. Heh, I often check this market, so I already know in advance what bookmakers offer ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I agree about Bolrussia and Leipzig, but I would rather consider such a possibility, not because Union Berlin looks strong, but because any of these teams can suddenly give out a series of unsuccessful games and drop out of the fight on their own. By the way, it turns out that bookmakers believe that Union Berlin will most likely get a ticket to the Champions League at the end of the season. In fact, it will be a very big success for them.
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Schalke does not score any points. They do not have a coach. And now they do not have a sports director either. Rouven Schröder has resigned. The people in charge probably expected a new coach. But Schröder has not yet been able to present a new coach. Now Schalke is not only looking for a new coach, but also a new sports director.
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October 26, 2022, 02:56:35 PM |
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I totally agree with you, seen in that match union berlin underestimated bochum too much, union berlin appeared surprising after they managed to beat dortmund, leipzig and managed to hold Bayern. Bayern must be very happy with this union defeat. tomorrow union will face Braga in the European league, don't know if they will lose or win against Braga.
SC Braga is one level above Union Berlin in the Europa League group standings with a very thin point difference. But I don't think that Union Berlin will let SC Braga win in that match, moreover it will take place at Union Berlin's home ground. Which is a motivation for Union Berlin to get full points and also to get a better position in order to qualify for the round of 16 later after the final match in early November. I hope so too and Union Berlin don't repeat the same mistakes they made when they lost to Bochum. SC Braga are better than Bochum, of course they will have more difficulties in the game. If they are not focused, it is not impossible that they will also have to lose again in a row in the Bundesliga and Europa League. They have to work hard in this Europa League because their position is very insecure, they have to wipe out the remaining 2 matches with a win if they want to at least advance to the play-offs.
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Of course, Bochum's victory surprised everyone, who would have thought they could beat the leaders with their poor composition and negative record during this Bundesliga? Union Berlin underestimated Bochum too much in my opinion that they should lose painfully to them. This defeat opened up opportunities for Bayern Munich, who from the start threatened and wanted a negative result that Union Berlin wanted to achieve. The one-point gap is an easy margin for Bayern Munich to take advantage of and we will soon see Union Berlin move from their current position.
I totally agree with you, seen in that match union berlin underestimated bochum too much, union berlin appeared surprising after they managed to beat dortmund, leipzig and managed to hold Bayern. Bayern must be very happy with this union defeat. tomorrow union will face Braga in the European league, don't know if they will lose or win against Braga. They are overconfident in this because they are clearly in good form and in contrast to Bochum which of course makes them feel a little bit they have the upper hand, but when they are on the pitch the opposite is true with them losing a lot of momentum and Bochum really really did well in this match. Next week in Serie A they will face Monchengladbach. Although currently Monchengladbach are not very good in terms of performance but now with the loss to Bochum they should not underestimate their opponent again. but I’m sure that Bayern’s odds for the title this year have returned to ridiculous values like 1.05 again, although formally Bayern is not in first place now and there are many competitors nearby.
that odds is very suitable with what people called that as bayernliga. It's almost in the first place again with only 1 point gap. In the end to be in such a gamble will only be a bore because indeed with such ridiculous odds what to expect ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Schalke does not score any points. They do not have a coach. And now they do not have a sports director either. Rouven Schröder has resigned. The people in charge probably expected a new coach. But Schröder has not yet been able to present a new coach. Now Schalke is not only looking for a new coach, but also a new sports director.
Schalke has been into shambles for a good while now. They have been a club with lots of potential for a long time, but they didn't make too much out of it, or better put they failed totally. Then they also had issues in their administration with external investors or lenders who also were in charge of the club and so on and so forth. At times it hasn't been about soccer, but all about politics within the club. I don't expect them to return to normal anytime soon and I'd be surprised if they can avoid to go straight into the 2. Bundesliga again.
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October 26, 2022, 08:24:31 PM |
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And Bochum can sometimes surprise us with their performance, I guess no team is really unbeatable at all, Union Berlin is one lucky team to get the privilege of that position on the standing but their time has come because Bayern Munich will now take it, but as we all know match up in the Bundesliga will surprise us like the Union Berlin VS Bochum match up, we can truly never know if the luck of Union Berlin will still continue or not,
Union Berlin will have an important match in the Europa League, where they must win the match at home to Sporting Braga later. only one point adrift of Sporting Braga, meaning, Union Berlin have a chance to be in second place if they win this match. in theory, this match will affect their performance later in the Bundesliga match. can have a bad influence or get a strong motivation to win the next matches. but for sure, in the game next week. Union Berlin will host Gladbach, which incidentally they are not an easy opponent to beat. this result will be decisive for them to keep their distance with Bayern Munich, or the Bundesliga leaders will belong to Bayern Munich. so let's see, what scenario will happen next week. I think that it depends on whether or not all players stay healthy over the course of the whole season. If they advance to the next round in the Europa League, they will need everyone on board healthy or otherwise their Bundesliga performance might significantly suffer. Taking into account that their squad is by far not as much and high quality as Bayern's, Union Berlin would suffer from injuries much more and would get into trouble to compensate for that. But yes, advancing in the Europa League can also set free a lot of positive energy. It gives you a boost in confidence and when you are successful there you can also beat anyone anytime in the Bundesliga. I hope they'll make it as I started to like that club. Very down to earth and really good fighters on the pitch! Well, maybe it's the match against Braga that might be a problem for Union Berlin in yesterday's match against Bochum, although I also believe that there will always be a moment where they will get a bad result. But to make things worse, Union Berlin lost by the team who are at the bottom of the table so any excuse that is made is like an excuse that is not right. Because after all, in the end only Bayern Munich is the only team that will be the top team in the standings at the end of the season, because it is difficult for other teams to be able to maintain their good position as is the case with Union Berlin at this moment. But if I consider the next match, I think Freiburg have a good chance to take advantage of the situation to get closer to first place in the standings. Because Union Berlin, which will play against Monchengladbach, is basically not a weak team, it could be that Monchengladbach provides a strong match for Union Berlin so that the result is a draw or maybe Monchengladbach can win the match. Meanwhile, Bayern Munich will play against Mainz, I think Mainz is not an easy opponent to beat, because sometimes Mainz can beat Bayen Munich as happened last season. But indeed, the factor of playing at home for them will still give them an advantage for better results. But at least, Freiburg is the team that guarantees victory for the next match for the teams that are in the top four, because even though Freiburg will play away but the opponent Freiburg will face is Schalke who don't look good even Schalke is currently at the bottom of the table. I see it the same way and the point about Union Berlin losing against Bochum simply is that you can't do that if you want to compete with Bayern. You can lose a game against Dortmund, but you can't leave points on the table against Bochum. Bayern punishes that hard and Bayern is also extra motivated to get closer or even better take the lead in the table by putting up pressure on Union Berlin. If they can't deal with that pressure against Bochum, that is a really bad sign for their fight with Bayern for the top. Bayern is in good shape right now. Maybe the World Cup comes at the right time to take away some of their momentum. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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October 26, 2022, 08:27:18 PM |
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Schalke does not score any points. They do not have a coach. And now they do not have a sports director either. Rouven Schröder has resigned. The people in charge probably expected a new coach. But Schröder has not yet been able to present a new coach. Now Schalke is not only looking for a new coach, but also a new sports director.
and they did it after all > > schalke 04 has now found a new coach . thomas reis is going to be the new coach at schalker. will he be better than the old coach and have more success ? i don't know. i don't know this coach. i have never heard this name. i only know that he was also once a coach in bochum. but he was sacked in bochum...after a 1:3 defeat against schalke 04
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October 26, 2022, 09:59:03 PM |
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When we have a look at where Union has lost points so far, we can say Union is very strong at home but having some difficulties away.
Oh yaa, true, from the match statistics, it seems that Berlin has had some difficulties and even lost several times when playing away. Could this be one of the mental reasons for the players? Because, when they are at home, they can really play very well, even being able to hold Bayern to a draw. But when in the opponent's cage, then they have lost or drawn several times. Sometimes the mentality of the players really determines the outcome of the game. Union didn't wanna lose points from bochum. This is football when everything still remain unpredictable. Don't forget another bad result by big team from another league.
Of course, whoever the club doesn't want to lose points. However, I think the answer from @1miau really makes sense from the above, that Berlin often has a hard time playing away. Maybe there was another factor in the defeat. And for sure, I really salute Bochum's struggle so that they can beat the leader of the standings.
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October 26, 2022, 11:15:37 PM |
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Union didn't wanna lose points from bochum. This is football when everything still remain unpredictable. Don't forget another bad result by big team from another league.
Of course, whoever the club doesn't want to lose points. However, I think the answer from @1miau really makes sense from the above, that Berlin often has a hard time playing away. Maybe there was another factor in the defeat. And for sure, I really salute Bochum's struggle so that they can beat the leader of the standings. In this case it can be said like that because 2 of their defeats came from away games, but rather than that I feel that they are now almost back to the same point as they were last season. Their schedule is quite busy and of course this has an impact on their performance which makes them now a little difficult and in the end they will still be under Bayern and Dortmund.
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October 26, 2022, 11:45:23 PM |
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Schalke does not score any points. They do not have a coach. And now they do not have a sports director either. Rouven Schröder has resigned. The people in charge probably expected a new coach. But Schröder has not yet been able to present a new coach. Now Schalke is not only looking for a new coach, but also a new sports director.
FC Schalke is devastated and no one wants to give any support there, it's really sad because there has to be a football club that is dead and doesn't have a future like this. FC Schalke must be able to bounce back next season and for this season it should be used for learning so that it doesn't happen in the next season.
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October 27, 2022, 04:24:19 AM |
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and they did it after all > > schalke 04 has now found a new coach . thomas reis is going to be the new coach at schalker. will he be better than the old coach and have more success ? i don't know. i don't know this coach. i have never heard this name. i only know that he was also once a coach in bochum. but he was sacked in bochum...after a 1:3 defeat against schalke 04 This is the hard Mission, I also don't know also who is Thomas Reis, seems like Schalke 04 does gambling, especially recruiting him after beating the club and together as a degradation zone club. maybe they make savings, There are many coaches out there who ask for a high salary, and I guess Thomas Reis doesn't ask for that but for sure he was able to convince the owner to bring Schalke 04 move from that zone.
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October 27, 2022, 07:40:07 AM |
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Schalke does not score any points. They do not have a coach. And now they do not have a sports director either. Rouven Schröder has resigned. The people in charge probably expected a new coach. But Schröder has not yet been able to present a new coach. Now Schalke is not only looking for a new coach, but also a new sports director.
I just see that if schalke is announcing a new coach. that's thomas reis former from bochum's coach who has become a new coach for schalke. Schalke has been making an official announcement on its twitter account about a him. https://twitter.com/s04_en/status/1585531661579591688
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Thomas Reis has already been mentioned in the media as a candidate. At Schalke it is only his second station as a professional coach. Before that he had been with Bochum since 2019. He was promoted with them, stayed in the league for a year and was sacked after the lost game against Schalke. Schalke already wanted him in the summer. Nice fact: A transfer fee of €500k still has to be paid to Bochum. Reis will take over 200k€ of this.
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