Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[borovichok]

I'm not sure if Dortmund is doing the right thing because we know making money from selling younger players is a good move and they can use the money to achieve their goals and they can help the younger talents to grow but like that, they are losing the title in Gundesliha every season.

As soon as Bellingham went to Real Madrid, I'm sure Dormound got a smaller chance to win the title compared to the last season when they were racing Bayern Munich for the title.

Every activity in the world of football includes generating earnings, whether from player transfers or winning trophies; of course, Borrusia Dortmund hoped to win the Bundesliga title someday, but that has yet to happen. The club is making enormous profits by selling the primary players to elite clubs; there have been numerous previous purchases of their outstanding players; perhaps if the club had managed to keep the players up to this point, they would have been the top pre-eminent competitor in elite competitions, in terms of the presence of excellent players with stellar performance. The departure of Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid does not spell the end of the club; they have survived without Erling Haaland, Jason Sancho, and Robert Lewandowski.

[bering]

FC Rottach-Egern is the team from 9th division of Germany league so this match is predictable that obviously Bayern Munich will be able to overcomes them and total score 27-0 is really fantastic final scores but i think Bayern was too serious to facing this match because they playing with their best starting lineup and besides that i think Bayern have no respect to their opponent because this is only a pre season match and don't take it seriously but Bayern didn't giving a chances to FC Rottach-Egern to develop their game and during the match Bayern Munich was playing with high press and the result is they can able to lead 18-0 in the first half so this is big winning to starting new season

I was almost thinking that nobody was discussing this in this place, because the score was very unbelievable to me when I saw it until I found out that this is not the first time that Bayern has played them and scored them this many goals. Bayern had beat them in 2018 (20-2), also in 2019 (23-0) and now in 2023 (27-0). It has always been an easy fixture for Bayern and to me, a good test for FC Rottach-Egern, but not a good test for the Bayern team, certainly not a proof that they can win the champions league this season.

Because Rottach-Egern is semi professional club so this team obviously is not real opponent for Bayern Munich but surprisingly Tuchel was played almost all of Bayern Munich key players and the result is predictable that they can able to win with big scores but the affect from this match is some of players were got injured and the latest is Bayern Munich striker Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting is into injured lists and probably he will not be joining the Asian tour and Bayern real test will be at 26th this month that they will fight against champion league champion Manchester City

On the other hand Bundesliga runner up Dortmund yesterday has get unsatisfactory results that Dortmund only can able to win with slim score 3-2 against Rot-Weiß Oberhausen and at that match Dortmund was displayed poor performance even they were conceded goal in early minutes but luckily Bamba has scores at the end of second half and bringing Dortmund to gets the winning result

[EarnOnVictor]

I'm not sure if Dortmund is doing the right thing because we know making money from selling younger players is a good move and they can use the money to achieve their goals and they can help the younger talents to grow but like that, they are losing the title in Gundesliha every season.

As soon as Bellingham went to Real Madrid, I'm sure Dormound got a smaller chance to win the title compared to the last season when they were racing Bayern Munich for the title.

Every activity in the world of football includes generating earnings, whether from player transfers or winning trophies; of course, Borrusia Dortmund hoped to win the Bundesliga title someday, but that has yet to happen. The club is making enormous profits by selling the primary players to elite clubs; there have been numerous previous purchases of their outstanding players; perhaps if the club had managed to keep the players up to this point, they would have been the top pre-eminent competitor in elite competitions, in terms of the presence of excellent players with stellar performance. The departure of Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid does not spell the end of the club; they have survived without Erling Haaland, Jason Sancho, and Robert Lewandowski.

Even if it doesn't seem obvious, there are two motives of clubs, it's to win trophies and to make money. It now depends on what they focus on and how they still manage their resources to achieve the two for themselves. Borussia Dortmund is stylishly achieving the two at the same time, and I will not blame them for that, though it's obvious that people have been talking much about it. Yet, they manage to always deliver as they always have a voice in the league and a top rival of any winner of the league.

They've been second in the last 5 leagues and ended up being third in one. This is not so bad and one day they will get it right and be the winner. Bayern Munich is not a club you could just win anyhow even without selling good players, Dortmund would not also sell all their good players, only that they would have had their chance on Bayern last season if they are better serious enough.

[hd49728]

Even if it doesn't seem obvious, there are two motives of clubs, it's to win trophies and to make money. It now depends on what they focus on and how they still manage their resources to achieve the two for themselves. Borussia Dortmund is stylishly achieving the two at the same time, and I will not blame them for that, though it's obvious that people have been talking much about it. Yet, they manage to always deliver as they always have a voice in the league and a top rival of any winner of the league.

Dortmund chose their strategy and they prioritize money than titles. It helps their club to have good finance in latest years and are competitive in Bundesliga as well as regularly participating in Champions League. However, ending seasons with a runner up position caused a lot of regret, disappointment to their players and fans. Honestly, if their players and fans can make choices, they will choose to win titles.

They've been second in the last 5 leagues and ended up being third in one. This is not so bad and one day they will get it right and be the winner.

They are a most popular runner up in Bundesliga in last 11 years and we know since a transfer to Dortmund, Marco Reus has never won Bundesliga with Dortmund. It is big regret that Reus deserves to win one Bundesliga trophy and he is counting down last seasons before a retirement.

Bayern Munich is not a club you could just win anyhow even without selling good players, Dortmund would not also sell all their good players, only that they would have had their chance on Bayern last season if they are better serious enough.

Bayern Munich are a strongest club in Bundesliga from strength on field to their power in finance. They use money to buy best players from their domestic competitors and reduce chances for those competitors to win against Bayern.

[Soonandwaite]

Bayern Munich are a strongest club in Bundesliga from strength on field to their power in finance. They use money to buy best players from their domestic competitors and reduce chances for those competitors to win against Bayern.

yes. that's 100% true. and if nothing much changes in this transfer period, Bayern München will become german champion again in 2024. in my opinion,
the other clubs would still have to sign some top players to become a serious competitor.
i personally believe that at least one more top star will join Bayern. maybe even just before the end of the transfer period.
all other teams will again fight for places 2-7  as in the last 11 years 

[Velvet78]

Dortmund have slowed down a little about their young player transfers these days. They have brought amazing names to the team so far such as Haaland and Bellingham. Their total profit in the sales of these two players was really good. There are a lot of talented players in the pool right now surely. Dortmund just don't want to rush anything for now.

Maybe a central midfielder transfer would be really good for Dortmund. Because it was Bellingham's main position and now there isn't anyone there whose position is that naturally. They can surely look for a big talent like Bellingham for this position.

I'm not sure if Dortmund is doing the right thing because we know making money from selling younger players is a good move and they can use the money to achieve their goals and they can help the younger talents to grow but like that, they are losing the title in Gundesliha every season.

As soon as Bellingham went to Real Madrid, I'm sure Dormound got a smaller chance to win the title compared to the last season when they were racing Bayern Munich for the title.

Honestly I would also like to see the Bundesliga being more competitive from now on. The previous season was really nice in terms of that but it was thanks to Bayern Munich's not being completely themselves. It still didn't change the result when it comes to the team to achieve the league title though.

I understand Dortmund that they want to keep their finances as high as possible at least while they can't become a title winner here. But I hope someday they decide to be more competitive for the title by taking the right steps for it.

[Smack That Ace]

Sadio Mane did not get a place in the Bayern Munich squad last season and the striker's performance was much different when he played at Liverpool, no one knows for sure what caused Sadio Mane to experience a decline in performance. It looks like he doesn't suit Thomas Tuchel's coaching style and strategy because after he arrived Sadio Mane seemed to have lost his best ability to play. Now the opportunity to join the Saudi Arabian league is wide open and the price offered by Bayern Munich is not a problem for them.
Back to Sadio Mane. Does he want to join the saudi arabia league next season or is he looking for another european club and for me he still has a chance to play outside the saudi arabia league. His ability is still very possible to play in Europe and in terms of actual quality he can still play at his best level.

I didn't expect him to get such a career at Bayern Munich, but the exit of Julian Nagelsmann changed everything. Thomas Tuchel works with blacks but I'm not convinced he wants Sadio Mane for his plans next season. Back to Premier League? I don't think any club is really ready to get Sadio Mane. For Saudi Arabia, I'm sure he can get a great career over that league.  Before the start of the new season, it's best he makes decisions on time, in order to avoid being dropped on the bench for a complete full season.

He obviously thinks that he has a lot to offer still. And it feels so good that he's choosing to stay in the competitive teams instead of going to Saudi league. I think he will be able to get a team in the European competition. But he will have to wait. That's why he is not going to any club that might eventually end his career. But I think he's ready to do that because he is not going to Saudi league. He might also need to take a pay cut.

Finding a good team shouldn't be a problem, but I think he should still consider the Saudi League. Staying in Bayern Munich could really hurt his career. The Saudi league, on the other hand, would guarantee him a big payday that he won't find in European competition.

regards

duke

[len01]

Maybe a central midfielder transfer would be really good for Dortmund. Because it was Bellingham's main position and now there isn't anyone there whose position is that naturally. They can surely look for a big talent like Bellingham for this position.

Dortmund has signed felix nmecha as a replacement for bellingham. You shall not feel worry as dortmund was aware if the club shall get a new midfielder to replace bellingham as soon as possible.
The clubs is very fast in getting the new talent. I really appreciated how good the talent recruitment that owned by dortmund.

the main thing is that we don't have to worry about anything because Dortmund doesn't think too much about the title in the bundesliga and Dortmund from the start is famous for a team that always prints new talents at a younger age after getting strong new talents Dortmund will sell them. well, this is proof that our worries will not change anything because there really is no goal in getting trophies or titles because it has been proven from a few seasons ago that Dortmund always do the same thing when getting new players who are younger and after that have a strong performance certainly will be sold again at a high price and I call it a business.
I'm not saying Dortmund don't have strength here, but it's just that if Dortmund don't always sell their reliable players, it's certainly very easy for Dortmund to shift Bayern Munich position. therefore I don't want to be a Dortmund fan because his goals are very different from mine.

and I'm sure that next season Bayern Munich will still be the leaders in the bundesliga and Dortmund will still be the runners up, unless luck comes to Dortmund.

[Cryptmuster]

yes. that's 100% true. and if nothing much changes in this transfer period, Bayern München will become german champion again in 2024. in my opinion,
the other clubs would still have to sign some top players to become a serious competitor.
i personally believe that at least one more top star will join Bayern. maybe even just before the end of the transfer period.
all other teams will again fight for places 2-7  as in the last 11 years 

In championships such as the Bundesliga or Ligue 1, it is difficult to compete with the giants, so there is little doubt that Bayern will become the champion again. A lot will also depend on Tuchel, because Bayern, as we saw it at the end of the last championship, will not be very easy. Bayern still have an open centre-forward issue, since Lewandowski left the team, they cannot find a full-fledged replacement for him.

[asriloni]

This is Dortmund in all its glory, when the most important thing is to earn money not by winning titles, but by reselling other people's young talented players. This strategy is flawed in its essence and ugly, but still sometimes continues to bring results, and therefore, more often, Dortmund, surprisingly enough, even ranks first after Bayern Munich. I still hope that there will be other normal clubs that will really try to surpass Bayern in the fight for titles and Borussia Dortmund will be eliminated from the list of contenders for high places.

That's why way for the club is to exist in the bundesliga. The trophies seem not to become the main target. Dortmund has been also selling one of its important player to the bayern again. There are some potential clubs in bundesliga like leipzig who potentially compete with bayern. The only problem if domination from bayern was making bundesliga look like a farmer league. DFL was not allowing broad investors to come. I think that if the rules being changed and it will be also ending the domination by dortmund in bundesliga.
Bundesliga will have new investors who's gonna buy the small club and make it bigger. The rules that being made by DFL was only giving advantage to the bayern.

[piebeyb]

yes. that's 100% true. and if nothing much changes in this transfer period, Bayern München will become german champion again in 2024. in my opinion,
the other clubs would still have to sign some top players to become a serious competitor.
i personally believe that at least one more top star will join Bayern. maybe even just before the end of the transfer period.
all other teams will again fight for places 2-7  as in the last 11 years 

In championships such as the Bundesliga or Ligue 1, it is difficult to compete with the giants, so there is little doubt that Bayern will become the champion again. A lot will also depend on Tuchel, because Bayern, as we saw it at the end of the last championship, will not be very easy. Bayern still have an open centre-forward issue, since Lewandowski left the team, they cannot find a full-fledged replacement for him.

Bayern Munich is still the best in the domestic league but they haven't looked better in other championships like the UCL, it's Tuchel's job to fix everything because he just signed for Munich at the end of the season so he doesn't have much time to overhaul and adapt to the players, that's why I think there is this opportunity to show that Tuchel is the right coach for Bayern.

In this season I think there will be no doubt because what we see also they always win the league like last season and always have good luck with that even though Dortmund almost won the league, but we will see how this season in 2024 will see who will win the league of course Of course, people will nominate Munich. but in the UCL they haven't really played much better since Lewandowski left Munich and it's true that Munich need someone with a young player with potential and who plays well up front and replaces Lewandowski.

[Barcode_]

After Sadio Mane left Liverpool and joined Bayern Munich, it is quite obvious Liverpool are struggling to perform to their best without Sadio Mane in the team as Liverpool did not even manage to qualify for the Uefa Champions League. Bayern Munich does have a great squad of players in the team including Sadio Mane but they always seems to underperform in the Uefa Champions League once they progress out of the group stage, I wonder if Bayern Munich made the right decision in signing Kim Min-jae at the transfer market but I guess they might need more signings in order to compete with other teams at the Uefa Champions League in the next upcoming season.

[Rockstarguy]

Dortmund have slowed down a little about their young player transfers these days. They have brought amazing names to the team so far such as Haaland and Bellingham. Their total profit in the sales of these two players was really good. There are a lot of talented players in the pool right now surely. Dortmund just don't want to rush anything for now.

Maybe a central midfielder transfer would be really good for Dortmund. Because it was Bellingham's main position and now there isn't anyone there whose position is that naturally. They can surely look for a big talent like Bellingham for this position.

I'm not sure if Dortmund is doing the right thing because we know making money from selling younger players is a good move and they can use the money to achieve their goals and they can help the younger talents to grow but like that, they are losing the title in Gundesliha every season.

As soon as Bellingham went to Real Madrid, I'm sure Dormound got a smaller chance to win the title compared to the last season when they were racing Bayern Munich for the title.

Honestly I would also like to see the Bundesliga being more competitive from now on. The previous season was really nice in terms of that but it was thanks to Bayern Munich's not being completely themselves. It still didn't change the result when it comes to the team to achieve the league title though.

I understand Dortmund that they want to keep their finances as high as possible at least while they can't become a title winner here. But I hope someday they decide to be more competitive for the title by taking the right steps for it.

The Bundesliga League has not been very competitive because other teams apart from Bayern Munich and Dortmund don't spend money to sign quality players into their club,  last season Dortmund performance was terrible,  they were able to compete with Bayern Munich because Bayern Munich was not in good form . Bayern Munich is just only the team that are doing things accordingly to still have a quality performance and to win trophies.  I consider every other team as not yet ready to win trophies,  because if team like Dortmund is interested to win  trophy I think they will work towards it and do things the right way.

[Strongkored]

Honestly I would also like to see the Bundesliga being more competitive from now on. The previous season was really nice in terms of that but it was thanks to Bayern Munich's not being completely themselves. It still didn't change the result when it comes to the team to achieve the league title though.

I understand Dortmund that they want to keep their finances as high as possible at least while they can't become a title winner here. But I hope someday they decide to be more competitive for the title by taking the right steps for it.

It won't be fun if we see continuous domination in a league like what happened in the Bundesliga, last season everything was so interesting to look forward to until the end of the season even though Borussia Dortmund ultimately failed but because of the tight difference in points everyone tried to watch the last game and keep checking live scores to see the table change, with the main players being sold at high prices and it seems that there is no movement from Dortmund it is very possible that they will display something that is not as good as last season but also does not rule out even better because they learned from previous failure, and with still time in the big transfer season there is a chance there is a change in Dortmund's strategy in the transfer market.
But other teams can also be a threat to Bayern Munich Leipzig or maybe Bayern Leverkusen, only we won't be able to guess how strong they are to become competitors to Bayern Munich who look very intense to making improvements and who will probably have a new striker.

[Jackl87]

After Sadio Mane left Liverpool and joined Bayern Munich, it is quite obvious Liverpool are struggling to perform to their best without Sadio Mane in the team as Liverpool did not even manage to qualify for the Uefa Champions League. Bayern Munich does have a great squad of players in the team including Sadio Mane but they always seems to underperform in the Uefa Champions League once they progress out of the group stage, I wonder if Bayern Munich made the right decision in signing Kim Min-jae at the transfer market but I guess they might need more signings in order to compete with other teams at the Uefa Champions League in the next upcoming season.

I don't know but i would not really say that Bayern Munich has underperformed that much in the last years. Yes they have only reached the quarterfinals in the last 3 seasons but we should not forget, that in the Champions League it is not enough to be the better team in general you also always need the right timing and a bit of luck on your side. Even in the last season they were definitely not the worse team against Manchester City. They were even dominating in the first 70 minutes of the first leg before Upamecano made that huge mistake which lead to the 2-0 for ManCity and which basically meant that Bayern was knocked out. I think it is only a of days or weeks until Sadio Mane will go to a club in Saudi Arabia or in the MLS.

[Slow death]

After Sadio Mane left Liverpool and joined Bayern Munich, it is quite obvious Liverpool are struggling to perform to their best without Sadio Mane in the team as Liverpool did not even manage to qualify for the Uefa Champions League. Bayern Munich does have a great squad of players in the team including Sadio Mane but they always seems to underperform in the Uefa Champions League once they progress out of the group stage, I wonder if Bayern Munich made the right decision in signing Kim Min-jae at the transfer market but I guess they might need more signings in order to compete with other teams at the Uefa Champions League in the next upcoming season.

there is a logical explanation for what happened to liverpool, after the departure of saudi mane (who was no longer very important in the team because there was a period in which he did not score goals and this is happening to him at bayern), many players from liverpool were injured and unfortunately the injuries were more destructive in attack, with diogo jota and luis diaz being injured for many months liverpool had to make signings that were supposed to fill the hole they had in their attack but unfortunately these signings were unable to resolve or at least minimize the problem, so liverpool dropped a lot in performance

but when it came to april in march, that is to say, close to the end of the season with the return of diogo jota and luis diaz, liverpool started to win games and recover positions in the table, with that i believe that this season that will start in the next month, liverpool may be able to stay in the top 4 and go to the champions league, but they couldn't win the premier league the way they are. about bayern, no doubt they are getting stronger with the aim of winning the champions league, although it will not be an easy mission, bayern would have more chances in the champions league next season, and they will easily win the bundesliga next season

I just wonder if the man will play in the starting 11 or be on the bench for the whole season

[rendravolt]

Kim Min-Jae was a magnificent player last season, he played for the eventual champions and he was a great reason why they won as well because he locked the best players down very well. I am not saying this is the type of player that can go to UCL and lock Haaland and Mbappe, that "may" not happen, which it could too, but I could easily say that he is a much better defender than what Bundesliga requires and that's why I believe that they are going to be doing fine.

I believe that we are going to see him be a beast at Bayern and Tuchel will efficiently use him. He is also young as well, which means that he could play maybe like another 10 years for them as well, that should be possible and they can get the most out of him.

By bringing in Kim Min Jae, of course Bayern Munich knows very well the problems he faced last season and one of them is the defensive position. Therefore, with Kim Min Jae, it is hoped that he can strengthen Bayern Munich's defense next season. I think the bad results in the bundesliga last season must also be a priority that must be addressed so that Bayern Munich is more consistent with a strong defense because it is very unfortunate if they often get consecutive draws like last season which allowed Dortmund to catch up with the difference in points.

As for the champions league, I think that even if Bayern Munich faces other strong teams they will try to stop every attack from their key players and I think they with the current squad are quite capable of dealing with that. I think every player must be based on a more mature character so they can be more motivated not to give up under any circumstances.

[Unknown Op]

That's why way for the club is to exist in the bundesliga. The trophies seem not to become the main target. Dortmund has been also selling one of its important player to the bayern again. There are some potential clubs in bundesliga like leipzig who potentially compete with bayern. The only problem if domination from bayern was making bundesliga look like a farmer league. DFL was not allowing broad investors to come. I think that if the rules being changed and it will be also ending the domination by dortmund in bundesliga.
Bundesliga will have new investors who's gonna buy the small club and make it bigger. The rules that being made by DFL was only giving advantage to the bayern.

Dortmund strategy of using player resale to achieve financial success is debatable and some may think it takes away from the spirit of the game. But there is no denying that their approach has paid off enabling them to challenge Bayern Munich for first place. Dortmund inclusion among the contenders brings an intriguing dynamic to the football environment even though many supporters desire teams who put sporting success before financial success. It will be interesting to observe how other teams respond to the changing landscape of the game as they attempt to challenge Bayern hegemony and possibly shift Dortmund standing.

[marcous]

The money that raised from selling haaland and bellingham being used to paid its expenses. The profit can be considered as good enough but it's not as big as you said. It's been reported by dortmund's financial report.
Dortmund is trying to hunt another young talented player to be developed again. I think that you will be seeing some names to join in the dortmund soon. Some names being targeted by the club this time.

In Europe, Dortmund are like Porto and Sevilla which have very good scout teams so that they can find many youth talented players around the world especially from Latin American nations and African nations to buy when those youth players are very cheap. Then they grow those players up and turn them to be star players and sell those new rising star players with expensive prices.

In the last twenty years, Dortmund are very successful with this strategy and they maintain it with acceptable good results in Bundesliga and Champions League. Obviously with this strategy, they are unable to win Bundesliga too often and especially unable to win Champions League. Anyway, winning big titles are not their priorities.

Agree with you that winning trophies is not a priority for Dortmund, recruiting young talents with lower market value is their specialty and then selling them at high prices, this will give Dormund a big advantage. What doesn't make sense to me the most is that they like to sell their players to rival clubs like Munchen. You can imagine how disappointed their fans were to see the direction of the club's policy with such a business style.

sometimes I think Bayern Munchen can win the Bundesliga Trophy without getting significant resistance from other clubs in the domestic league. However the fact that Dortmund is a club with a tradition of selling their star players and that has stuck with them is very convincing.

[W Jr.]

That's why way for the club is to exist in the bundesliga. The trophies seem not to become the main target. Dortmund has been also selling one of its important player to the bayern again. There are some potential clubs in bundesliga like leipzig who potentially compete with bayern. The only problem if domination from bayern was making bundesliga look like a farmer league. DFL was not allowing broad investors to come. I think that if the rules being changed and it will be also ending the domination by dortmund in bundesliga.
Bundesliga will have new investors who's gonna buy the small club and make it bigger. The rules that being made by DFL was only giving advantage to the bayern.

Dortmund strategy of using player resale to achieve financial success is debatable and some may think it takes away from the spirit of the game. But there is no denying that their approach has paid off enabling them to challenge Bayern Munich for first place. Dortmund inclusion among the contenders brings an intriguing dynamic to the football environment even though many supporters desire teams who put sporting success before financial success. It will be interesting to observe how other teams respond to the changing landscape of the game as they attempt to challenge Bayern hegemony and possibly shift Dortmund standing.

Teams have begun to concentrate more on their matches in order to end the Bayern Munich hegemony. There were matches where even small teams challenged Bayern last year. If it continues like this this year, it could be another difficult year for Bayern. However, if there is a truth in the Bundesliga, it is that the champion of the league is determined almost before the league starts, and that team is Bayern Munich. Hopefully this year we can see that change.