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July 09, 2024, 02:47:46 AM |
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The criticism makes sense. Bayern Munich signed Kompany as a new head coach. Look at the fact about how kompany has no good background as a coach, and he came from championship division club in england. It's hard to think positively about kompany's chance to succeed in bayern munich. People criticized bayern munich for their decision. Even some blamed this club.
Also, Bayern Munich always hired quality coaches. But, this is my first time to see them hire a coach without a strong background in coaching a big club like Bayern. This is a setback for the club.
Even I see it as a horrible decision by Bayern's officials, and it reduces Bayern's chance to win bundesliga title. And last, The coach they hired has little experience.
I think they rushed the decision this time, and the reason is that after several refusals from Alonso, Negelsman and Ragnick, they were in a strange position, I’m not sure that they could ever receive so many refusals, so they began to celebrate not among the top coaches, and This is how the Company was found. They just needed to wait a little longer, not rush into a decision, and there would have been many more options, like now Terzic, who left Dortmund, or Pochettino, or Allegri... I think Terzic would be the most usual candidate. He knows the Bundesliga well and is a coach who managed to take Dortmund to the UCL final last year. I think Bayern hastily made an early decision. Although Kompany was one of the best defenders in the world during his football career, it is obvious that his coaching career did not progress in the same way. I hope the Bayern management will not regret this decision.
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klidex
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July 09, 2024, 04:38:15 AM |
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I still don't understand one thing. Why did Nagelsmann wanted to manage a national team already now? I mean he is a really young manager after all. He was climbing the steps really quick in his career as the last club he managed was Bayern Munich as you know. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) After that I really expected him to continue managing big clubs like that. I think national team jobs are a better fit for managers with big careers at a little old age minimum too. Because you are like a little active than being retired while managing a national team. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) You are rarely playing games. In his last spell at Bayern Munich he had some failures. The possibility of the same thing happening again could have created even bigger problems for his career. I think the German national team are a comfort zone for him. He will continue to get good stats with the German national team. But if he had a second big team experience after Bayern Munich and failed, there would be a lot of negativity about him. I think the German national team are a comfort zone for him and an opportunity to rest. He can have an active rest there for a while. Failure has become a risk in coaching a big club. There is no coach who has pursued a career without problems. It takes a long process to achieve success. He is still young and needs a lot of experience to become a great coach. If he just stays in his comfort zone, he won't get a lot of good experience. he needs to think about his future, not just stay in one place, I know he has good potential, it's just that his dismissal at Bayern Munich made him step down from coaching in the big leagues. If he doesn't want to coach a big club which is full of pressure, he can coach a mid-table club in the Bundesliga and improve his performance, who knows, maybe that could increase his value. Slowly start to train mentally and be confident again to be able to coach a big club.
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rendravolt
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July 09, 2024, 07:08:06 AM |
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I think Xabi Alonso is making good decisions to improve his team before difficult games. He has to be careful about who he chooses because Leverkusen does not have a lot of money. Even though he has done well with Leverkusen I am also worry that they do not have as much money as big clubs like Bayern Munich. But I still believe in Alonso ability to succeed despite these challenges. He is a smart coach who can get best out of his players and that will help Leverkusen compete with the bigger teams. I think he will find ways to overcome financial limitations and lead his team to victory.
The financial differences between Leverkusen and Bayern Munich were proven last season and this fact should still be able to continue Leverkusen's success next season. I think as long as a team can adapt to its competitors who have certainly made improvements then they won't feel left behind either. Besides, what can we expect from Bayern Munich with coach Vincent Kompany? Isn't that an advantage for Leverkusen because they still have Xabi Alonso and are clearly better than the Bayern Munich coach. If only Xabi Alonso agreed to join Bayern Munich, it is possible that Leverkusen would no longer be equal or even be able to defend their title again.
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iBaba
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July 09, 2024, 07:19:18 AM |
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Failure has become a risk in coaching a big club. There is no coach who has pursued a career without problems. It takes a long process to achieve success. He is still young and needs a lot of experience to become a great coach. If he just stays in his comfort zone, he won't get a lot of good experience. he needs to think about his future, not just stay in one place, I know he has good potential, it's just that his dismissal at Bayern Munich made him step down from coaching in the big leagues.
When people say 'experience is the best teacher', soccer is one industry that further exemplifies that and it occurs to both players and managers. As players grow and play at different competitions and with different teams, they learn how to further maximize their potentials and talents. The same thing goes to the managers during their managerial experiences. While we have talented managers in the field doing exceptionally well for their clubs, they need the experience to be able to maximize their performance especially when they get signed to bigger clubs as elite development coaches or even as head coach. The more the experience, the better the performance. This is why coaches like Ancelotti of Real Madrid, Klopp of Liverpool and Pep Guardiola of Manchester City have stood out in the last season across their respective leagues and at the Champions league.
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July 09, 2024, 09:33:08 AM |
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I think Xabi Alonso is making good decisions to improve his team before difficult games. He has to be careful about who he chooses because Leverkusen does not have a lot of money. Even though he has done well with Leverkusen I am also worry that they do not have as much money as big clubs like Bayern Munich. But I still believe in Alonso ability to succeed despite these challenges. He is a smart coach who can get best out of his players and that will help Leverkusen compete with the bigger teams. I think he will find ways to overcome financial limitations and lead his team to victory.
Alonso was able to develop his squad well this season after selecting players who were very appropriate and in line with the needs of their team, so that they were able to compete with other stronger teams in both the Bundesliga and European leagues, if we look at the players in the Leverkusen squad this season, the majority come from their academy so it is not difficult for Alonso to create good chemistry between these players, In my opinion, in overcoming the financial limitations currently faced, of course recruiting academy players could still be one of the right solutions for Leverkusen to do again next season. The financial differences between Leverkusen and Bayern Munich were proven last season and this fact should still be able to continue Leverkusen's success next season. I think as long as a team can adapt to its competitors who have certainly made improvements then they won't feel left behind either.
Besides, what can we expect from Bayern Munich with coach Vincent Kompany? Isn't that an advantage for Leverkusen because they still have Xabi Alonso and are clearly better than the Bayern Munich coach. If only Xabi Alonso agreed to join Bayern Munich, it is possible that Leverkusen would no longer be equal or even be able to defend their title again.
Since Bayern Munich recruited Kompany as their coach this season, we seem to underestimate Kompany even though we haven't seen what he will do next season with Munich, Kompany failure to handle Burnley should not be a reference for us to underestimate him because of the lack of quality of the Burnley squad in premier league, but wouldn't he get the opposite at Bayern Munich now? Apart from that, didn't Alonso, who was recruited by Leverkusen previously, have no experience of coaching a big team and we know that Leverkusen was the first senior team coached by Alonso in his coaching career, then why do we say Alonso was better than Kompany when Kompany got his first big club today?
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July 09, 2024, 10:30:45 AM |
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but wouldn't he get the opposite at Bayern Munich now? Apart from that, didn't Alonso, who was recruited by Leverkusen previously, have no experience of coaching a big team and we know that Leverkusen was the first senior team coached by Alonso in his coaching career, then why do we say Alonso was better than Kompany when Kompany got his first big club today?
Comparing his achievements in the same season, of course, Xabi is better. Kompany I think will admit that. The slight difference is that Leverkusen when Xabi came was not a strong team like Bayern Munich today. It is quite unfair to compare these conditions. Kompany should benefit more from the luxury players at Bayern Munich. With poor statistics it is natural that many Munich fans are worried. Right now Kompany just needs to concentrate on the team and his abilities. After that, it proves that the management decision was not wrong in choosing him.
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Lannakosa
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July 09, 2024, 10:42:20 AM |
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Comparing his achievements in the same season, of course, Xabi is better. Kompany I think will admit that. The slight difference is that Leverkusen when Xabi came was not a strong team like Bayern Munich today. It is quite unfair to compare these conditions. Kompany should benefit more from the luxury players at Bayern Munich. With poor statistics it is natural that many Munich fans are worried. Right now Kompany just needs to concentrate on the team and his abilities. After that, it proves that the management decision was not wrong in choosing him.
Bayer's previous seasons were very bad, although they showed a very meaningful game, they could not score at all, and their defense was chaotic. That is, the team had very good potential, but there was no order, and Alonso brought this element to the team. Kompany also did not come at the best time for Bayern, but he definitely has much better conditions at the start of his work in Bayern, in addition, there are many experienced players in the team, like Müller, who could probably become an excellent coach himself if necessary, so the Кompany will have good help from the players as well, the most important thing is not to enter into conflict with them. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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but wouldn't he get the opposite at Bayern Munich now? Apart from that, didn't Alonso, who was recruited by Leverkusen previously, have no experience of coaching a big team and we know that Leverkusen was the first senior team coached by Alonso in his coaching career, then why do we say Alonso was better than Kompany when Kompany got his first big club today?
Comparing his achievements in the same season, of course, Xabi is better. Kompany I think will admit that. The slight difference is that Leverkusen when Xabi came was not a strong team like Bayern Munich today. It is quite unfair to compare these conditions. Kompany should benefit more from the luxury players at Bayern Munich. With poor statistics it is natural that many Munich fans are worried. Right now Kompany just needs to concentrate on the team and his abilities. After that, it proves that the management decision was not wrong in choosing him. There is a big difference between managing a big team and managing the best among big teams. When Bayern Leverkusen had not won the Bundesliga title, any coach can easily take up the job and make the club to end in top four and it will be considered as a good performance by the coach. But with the status of Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga, no coach will end in top four with Bayern Munich without lifting the title and it will be considered as good coaching. This is because Bayern Munich has already seen the Bundesliga title as their birthright, so any performance that did not win the Bundesliga title is not a good one for Bayern Munich. This is why an average coach handling the club should be under pressure to perform. So, whether we admit it or not, Kompany has a very big task and he's under pressure to deliver in Bayern Munich. The pressure he is is much more higher than the one Xavi Alonso had when he took up the Bayern Leverkusen job, if at all he had any pressure.
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July 09, 2024, 11:46:59 AM |
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I think Xabi Alonso is making good decisions to improve his team before difficult games. He has to be careful about who he chooses because Leverkusen does not have a lot of money. Even though he has done well with Leverkusen I am also worry that they do not have as much money as big clubs like Bayern Munich. But I still believe in Alonso ability to succeed despite these challenges. He is a smart coach who can get best out of his players and that will help Leverkusen compete with the bigger teams. I think he will find ways to overcome financial limitations and lead his team to victory.
The financial differences between Leverkusen and Bayern Munich were proven last season and this fact should still be able to continue Leverkusen's success next season. I think as long as a team can adapt to its competitors who have certainly made improvements then they won't feel left behind either. Next season Leverkusen will be challenged to maintain its consistency not only in the Bundesliga but in the UCL competition that they will be taking part in, it will also require Xabi Alonso and his players to be able to give their best. Bayern Munich will certainly try to regain its dominance from Leverkusen by any means possible. Bayern Munich's finances are always sufficient but Leverkusen may have to sell players and risk not being able to maintain the balance they already have. Everyone will be wondering if Leverkusen is able to stay on track for next season and personally I want to see how far Leverkusen competes in the Champions League next season.
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July 09, 2024, 03:54:47 PM |
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Next season Leverkusen will be challenged to maintain its consistency not only in the Bundesliga but in the UCL competition that they will be taking part in, it will also require Xabi Alonso and his players to be able to give their best. Bayern Munich will certainly try to regain its dominance from Leverkusen by any means possible. Bayern Munich's finances are always sufficient but Leverkusen may have to sell players and risk not being able to maintain the balance they already have. Everyone will be wondering if Leverkusen is able to stay on track for next season and personally I want to see how far Leverkusen competes in the Champions League next season.
Last season was the best season for Leverkusen in the club history, so far, Dortmund continued to try to break Bayern Munich dominance in the league but unexpectedly it was Leverkusen who was able to do it, the performance shown by Leverkusen last season was the result of Alonso hard work and be intelligence in coaching Leverkusen, even though he was doubted because of his lack of experience, but in fact he was able to silence all the criticism by bringing Leverkusen to win the Bundesliga and also qualify for the Champions League next season, this time, Alonso certainly has quite a tough job to maintain their performance next season, but I think this could be done by Alonso if currently Leverkusen is able to retain all of their mainstay players and also recruit several new players that the team needs. Bayern Munich is entering a new era with Kompany, just like Alonso before, it is currently doubtful that Kompany will be able to bring Bayern Munich back to dominating the Bundesliga next season because currently Kompany is not a coach who has a lot of experience, but if we look Alonso achievements in last season, of course perhaps it is quite natural that Munich gave him the confidence to coaching next season and compared to Alonso, perhaps Kompany job will be easier because he is supported by a team containing many great players today.
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Failure has become a risk in coaching a big club. There is no coach who has pursued a career without problems. It takes a long process to achieve success. He is still young and needs a lot of experience to become a great coach. If he just stays in his comfort zone, he won't get a lot of good experience. he needs to think about his future, not just stay in one place, I know he has good potential, it's just that his dismissal at Bayern Munich made him step down from coaching in the big leagues.
If he doesn't want to coach a big club which is full of pressure, he can coach a mid-table club in the Bundesliga and improve his performance, who knows, maybe that could increase his value. Slowly start to train mentally and be confident again to be able to coach a big club.
That's a risk too though, I mean think about it you already reached Bayern level before but got fired and if you decide to go to some mid level team and fail there too then you are not going to find any good chances anywhere again, you will drop more and more, basically become like last 5-6 years of Mourinho. However, he found the biggest job he could, he accepted Germany offer because that was the biggest offer he had, and that means if he does well (which I think he did so far) then he is going to keep being a good manager and could find a job somewhere eventually. This is why I believe that he is doing the right thing, he should keep being there, and eventually the reason they are going to end up being better would be perfect.
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Stuttgart has starting to find the replacement of Serhou Guirassy who went to Dortmund and actually they have several candidates such as Augsburg player Ermedin Demirovic and Andre Silva from Leipzig but because the negotiation between them and Augsburg for Ermedin Demirovic transfer has been deadlocked then probably Stuttgart will attempts to bought Andre Silva and it says actually Andre Silva has cheap price because if Stuttgart is really want to buy him then they only have to spend 12 million as transfer fee but the most problem is the salary of Andre Silva in Leipzig is too high so probably Stuttgart will attempts to convince Andre Silva to keep moving by lowering his salary
Next season Stuttgart will lost some players because after lost Serhou Guirassy Stuttgart probably will lost other key player Chris Fuhrich and this season Chris Fuhrich performance is so impressive even with Stuttgart Chris Fuhrich can scores 8 goals and create 7 assists in Bundesliga so as a winger these records is very impressive so that's why some of clubs such as Bayern Munich, Leicester and Atalanta were tempting want to buy him especially Chris Fuhrich has release clause price only 22 million which this price is quite cheap
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I think Terzic would be the most usual candidate. He knows the Bundesliga well and is a coach who managed to take Dortmund to the UCL final last year. I think Bayern hastily made an early decision. Although Kompany was one of the best defenders in the world during his football career, it is obvious that his coaching career did not progress in the same way. I hope the Bayern management will not regret this decision.
To be honest, I doubt that Kompany can make Munich better next season. Yes, in my opinion Terzic is much better because as you said Terzic knows the Bundesliga very well. I don't know why the club management didn't choose to negotiate with him but there is a possibility that they have also received a rejection from Terzic or they are not aware of the fact that Terzic has left Dortmund. In my personal opinion Kompany still doesn't have the level to coach a team of Munich's level. I'm not underestimating Kompany but statistically Kompany doesn't have a good enough background. But I hope Kompany can prove the trust that has been given to him by the club management.
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July 10, 2024, 03:47:04 AM |
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That's a risk too though, I mean think about it you already reached Bayern level before but got fired and if you decide to go to some mid level team and fail there too then you are not going to find any good chances anywhere again, you will drop more and more, basically become like last 5-6 years of Mourinho.
In my opinion, the risk is not as big as coaching a big club because coaching a mid-table club will not place too high demands on him, he will proceed slowly, just like Xabi Alonso who coached Leverkusen. As we know, Leverkusen has never won the Bundesliga title but thanks to his skill he was able to make his club appear impressive and break the dominance of Bayern Munich and ultimately made his coaching career successful and many people sought his signature. It doesn't matter that even if he reaches the level of Bayern Munich his digital footprint will never disappear or if he has the prestige of coaching a mid-table club he could become a coach of a big club from another league but yes, it doesn't seem like that at the moment because he is now more comfortable coaching a national club.
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July 10, 2024, 04:07:20 AM |
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I think Terzic would be the most usual candidate. He knows the Bundesliga well and is a coach who managed to take Dortmund to the UCL final last year. I think Bayern hastily made an early decision. Although Kompany was one of the best defenders in the world during his football career, it is obvious that his coaching career did not progress in the same way. I hope the Bayern management will not regret this decision.
To be honest, I doubt that Kompany can make Munich better next season. Yes, in my opinion Terzic is much better because as you said Terzic knows the Bundesliga very well. I don't know why the club management didn't choose to negotiate with him but there is a possibility that they have also received a rejection from Terzic or they are not aware of the fact that Terzic has left Dortmund. In my personal opinion Kompany still doesn't have the level to coach a team of Munich's level. I'm not underestimating Kompany but statistically Kompany doesn't have a good enough background. But I hope Kompany can prove the trust that has been given to him by the club management. That's true, but Bayern Munich's management seems to have made an ambiguous decision that will have a negative impact on the team's performance in competing at the top of the standings. Usually Bayern Munich always makes decisions that might make sense, as Tezic also has quite a lot of experience in the Bundesliga. But what is clear is that we have not seen the results that the Bavarians have obtained with Kompany and maybe time will tell. I also really respect Kompany but I am very pessimistic that he will be able to bring Bayern Munich back to control of the Bundesliga.
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July 10, 2024, 05:20:05 AM |
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That's true, but Bayern Munich's management seems to have made an ambiguous decision that will have a negative impact on the team's performance in competing at the top of the standings. Usually Bayern Munich always makes decisions that might make sense, as Tezic also has quite a lot of experience in the Bundesliga. But what is clear is that we have not seen the results that the Bavarians have obtained with Kompany and maybe time will tell. I also really respect Kompany but I am very pessimistic that he will be able to bring Bayern Munich back to control of the Bundesliga.
Believe me, the current Munich decision is the wisest choice than forcing a professional coach that's hard to get. And for now we're not something we don't know why the management of Munich chose the Kompany but I believe there's something we do not know behind this all. The giant bundesliga team today has some very professional players and it's just about time to wait for the Kompany to prove if he can bring the team to compete with the other top board teams. But to regain the dominance of the Bundesliga title as it used to be, it seems the Kompany will take longer.
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July 10, 2024, 07:19:57 AM |
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That's true, but Bayern Munich's management seems to have made an ambiguous decision that will have a negative impact on the team's performance in competing at the top of the standings. Usually Bayern Munich always makes decisions that might make sense, as Tezic also has quite a lot of experience in the Bundesliga. But what is clear is that we have not seen the results that the Bavarians have obtained with Kompany and maybe time will tell. I also really respect Kompany but I am very pessimistic that he will be able to bring Bayern Munich back to control of the Bundesliga.
Believe me, the current Munich decision is the wisest choice than forcing a professional coach that's hard to get. And for now we're not something we don't know why the management of Munich chose the Kompany but I believe there's something we do not know behind this all. The giant bundesliga team today has some very professional players and it's just about time to wait for the Kompany to prove if he can bring the team to compete with the other top board teams. But to regain the dominance of the Bundesliga title as it used to be, it seems the Kompany will take longer. Not so, recruiting a coach who does not have much experience and achievements is a big gamble made by Byern Munich management. This is not meant to belittle Vincent Kompany, but let's just look at it realistically, he just failed in the Premier League with Burnley, so it's natural that there are now many doubts about Vincent Kompany. Bayern management certainly looks at it from a different perspective on their decision to recruit Vincent Kompany and anything is still possible now and I see it as a balanced percentage between being able to rise or getting worse.
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July 10, 2024, 07:49:33 AM |
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When people say 'experience is the best teacher', soccer is one industry that further exemplifies that and it occurs to both players and managers. As players grow and play at different competitions and with different teams, they learn how to further maximize their potentials and talents. The same thing goes to the managers during their managerial experiences. While we have talented managers in the field doing exceptionally well for their clubs, they need the experience to be able to maximize their performance
Experience is one of the major factor that should be considered in every dimension, even in things outside soccer people always values experience perhaps that's actually the reasons why clubs normally go for the coaches that has a lot of coaching experience so that he will use the experience he has gotten to make the club more better perhaps that is why we have so many coaches but few are the most valued coach do to the fact that they have a lot of experience and things to offer than every others, though we cannot totally dispute the fact that most coaches that doesn't have experience are not good because there are some coaches that started with a less knowledge about coaching but as time goes by they started growing and became better. Sure this is also applicable with players because the more they are actually playing for different teams that is how there experiences is growing and learning new things, however even Ronaldo for instance became the best because of experience, I could remember when he started playing with Manchester United and by then his performance was good but not actually good enough but the moment he joined other teams his experience started growing and from there he became unstoppable.
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July 10, 2024, 08:35:17 AM |
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I think Terzic would be the most usual candidate. He knows the Bundesliga well and is a coach who managed to take Dortmund to the UCL final last year. I think Bayern hastily made an early decision. Although Kompany was one of the best defenders in the world during his football career, it is obvious that his coaching career did not progress in the same way. I hope the Bayern management will not regret this decision.
Their decision was definitely unexpected, perhaps they hope that Kompany is capable of the same miracle as Alonso did at Bayer, but there is a big difference between them, because Alonso played in the Bundesliga for a long time and knows very well how everything works here, but for Kompany this is new championship. Actually, the hopes of the Bayern management are built only on expectations, they simply decided to trust the young coach, and perhaps the opinion of Guardiola, but does such a team have the right to leave room for doubt when it comes to appointing a head coach?
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July 10, 2024, 09:07:54 AM |
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So, who do you think is gonna fit into the germany national team other than naglesmann? There were only a few candidates at that moment (included naglesmann).. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I don't remember the other options back then honestly. But maybe bringing back Joachim Löw? ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) He won a World Cup with Germany in 2014 you know. I liked his system those times. I think the same system would fit the current dynamism of the team. I don't like this question. Services to your nation is almost same way as to your club. Lol.... I don't think I'd want to play for my country if I was playing professionally but then, Julian Nagelsmann has every right nto chose his next job. He could be the manager for the next four years and also the next Fifa World Cup Competition. I don't see anything wrong with his decisions, it's cool if he no longer wants a club side job for now.
I didn't actually mean the quality of his services there, you got me wrong my friend. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The thing I meant was that it would be better for Nagelsmann's career development if he continued managing a club rather than national team. Because he is going to play games much less in number compared to managing a club. I don't think this is a good thing for a young manager.
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