Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Palakka]

The management of the Stuttgart club are not fighting for the title, they are fighting to stay in the Bundesliga and whenever they have any chance of making a profit by selling players,

What Stuttgart achieved last season certainly indirectly made their players attractive from other teams for recruitment, in fact, what you say makes sense if we look at the finances that Stuttgart currently has, but sometimes small teams like Stuttgart don't have the ability to continue to keep their best players in the team forever, because after all the demands for large salaries and bonuses along with the increasing performance shown by these players will make the club think twice about trying to keep them in the squad, besides that, most teams  like Stuttgart often do not protect their players with high release clauses so that it is easy for big teams to redeem these players, as happened with Guirassy who was acquired by Dortmund for only 18 million euros, isn't that value quite cheap if we look at his ability to score 30 goals in a one season?

Trust me that is not true , if they have the chance to get the title they would be fight for it , but they cant afford the money to hold that players.
If there was enough money i guess most of the players would stay in Stuttgart.
But i dosnt look good for them as Waldemar Anton und Serhou Guirassy already gone to Dortmund.
There are rumors that Pascal Groß also wants to join Dortmund.
I think that the next season will be more exciting as the last one was already.

We cannot hope that Stuttgart will be able to repeat what they did last season, because one by one their star players have left and chosen to join other teams, the conditions that occur in Stuttgart are actually something that usually happens to mediocre teams in the European leagues so far, apart from the lack of money to retain players, these clubs are often only used as ladders by players to be able to play at better clubs and most of them think about taking the existing opportunities to get a better career with big clubs in the future, so it is not surprising for us to see an exodus of players often occurring in teams that have no guarantee of continuing to compete at the top level every season.

[Hvdv]

If you say that they deliberately hired Kompany, I see some atom of truth here because if they needed a coach better than Kompany, they should have taken their time to look for one after all the season have not started yet. Also they should have looked for a better coach and contact him before the season ends.

Nobody can give the names of coaches that the management of Bayern Munich contacted that told them they cannot coach the team, who knows if there are also average coaches like Kompany for them to reject the offer of coaching a big and successful club like Bayern Munich. I hope that Kompany gives his best and make the club happy with a good outcome.

All teams hire coaches they feel will deliver their jobs for them well and proper same as Bayern which is why they choose Kompany.

Are there better coaches out there?
All i know that we have old coaches that no team will risk given them coaching jobs because the pattern of the modern football is far different than the past, so hiring any old manager will not give the team a better result, they only need a young manager that can confidently compete with his mates to bring best result for the team.
Moreover, Kompany is not a bad coach, he failed in the Premier League just because he lack quality players that will withstand the Premier League pressure and the team didn't have money to sign more players, and beside that, no senior player will leave his team for Burnley; but in Munich, he will have all he wanted to do his job better.

I think Bayern Munich management has its own arguments regarding the decision to choose Kompany as coach. I think what you say is also true, perhaps the Munich management is analyzing whether a young coach with a modern football philosophy will be easier and able to bring the team back to achieving its mission. Moreover, Kompany also has a strong leadership character and he also has almost the same style as Pep Guardiola so that might be another reason to consider.

Everyone has been criticizing them since they appointed Vincent Kompany as the manager of the team, but what if Kompany is a diamond? What if Bayern, who had this diamond early, doesn't let it go for years? We need to consider these possibilities because the Bayern management believes in him. I think it's hard for them not to believe him. He will have a great football career and experience in the big team. If he is really good, he will show it to us soon.

[LUCKMCFLY]

There is no choice but to just entrust everything to the current coach, after all we don't know how Vincent currently managing Munich. I mean we all don't know how passionate and confident the coach is to build a team that is more consistent than the previous season and I think Vincent deserves to be given the opportunity to prove that he can give his best after being given the trust of all parties.
Moreover, currently Munich not too bad, they have a fairly consistent attack line and only need improvements in their midfielders and defense.

I always think that everyone deserves a chance, and you're right, Bayern have high quality players, very good ones who are currently playing at a great level. I would say that they need new, slightly younger players. Harry Kane is one of the best, as is Muller, but personally, I'm sure that whoever comes to do the job will follow his instructions, because Leverkusen are one of the teams that won't make it easy for them, and Bayern want to regain their value in the Bundesliga, so I think it will be more interesting now that all the teams know who the Leverkusen players are and their power, and their preparation will be on another level.

“Not close” with Bayern Munich on a deal for Matthijs de Ligt, Manchester United turns attention to Real Madrid target Leny Yoro

    Yes, Manchester United now have entered the race for Leny #Yoro with an official to Lille! #MUFC

    But the 18 y/o top talent has not yet decided whether he will join Manchester United or Real Madrid.

    Still no official offer from ManUtd to Bayern for Matthijs de Ligt. Clubs not close.

The timing of this news is a little curious as there have been reports for days that things were getting close between De Ligt, Bayern Munich, and Manchester United on getting a deal done (with the most recent information dropping late yesterday):

Source: https://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/2024/7/9/24194892/bayern-munich-matthijs-de-ligt-manchester-united-lille-yoro-transfer-rumors-real-madrid-petition

[Swordsoffreedom]

Stuttgart has starting to find the replacement of Serhou Guirassy who went to Dortmund and actually they have several candidates such as Augsburg player Ermedin Demirovic and Andre Silva from Leipzig but because the negotiation between them and Augsburg for Ermedin Demirovic transfer has been deadlocked then probably Stuttgart will attempts to bought Andre Silva and it says actually Andre Silva has cheap price because if Stuttgart is really want to buy him then they only have to spend 12 million as transfer fee but the most problem is the salary of Andre Silva in Leipzig is too high so probably Stuttgart will attempts to convince Andre Silva to keep moving by lowering his salary

Next season Stuttgart will lost some players because after lost Serhou Guirassy Stuttgart probably will lost other key player Chris Fuhrich and this season Chris Fuhrich performance is so impressive even with Stuttgart Chris Fuhrich can scores 8 goals and create 7 assists in Bundesliga so as a winger these records is very impressive so that's why some of clubs such as Bayern Munich, Leicester and Atalanta were tempting want to buy him especially Chris Fuhrich has release clause price only 22 million which this price is quite cheap

Both Serhou Guirassy and Chris Fuhrich have very low release clauses which is a concern for Stuttgart for sure. But they have been keen that they want to keep both the players and I would say it’s completely up to the players as of now. Also, Stuttgart defender Anton has been targeted by Liverpool, and his future is also deemed as uncertain.

There is honestly not much that Stuttgart can do, apart from trying to negotiate, which may or may not end well for the club. It is also true that the club showed good promise last season and will try to deliver more in the coming days as well.

[Weawant]

Everyone has been criticizing them since they appointed Vincent Kompany as the manager of the team, but what if Kompany is a diamond? What if Bayern, who had this diamond early, doesn't let it go for years? We need to consider these possibilities because the Bayern management believes in him. I think it's hard for them not to believe him. He will have a great football career and experience in the big team. If he is really good, he will show it to us soon.

You should understand that everyone isn't going to react in a same pattern with a particular situation at every point, some may likely want to see good even from a bad situation just like you are seemingly doing while the others may see otherwise. At this point it's left with company to show some levels of capabilities beyond what people have taught of him much earlier. There's every possibility he turns out to be the one manager Munich needed to be back on their feet and in the other hand it's also possible he may flop and get sacked, only time will tell and at this point we should allow that happen.

[Hvdv]

Everyone has been criticizing them since they appointed Vincent Kompany as the manager of the team, but what if Kompany is a diamond? What if Bayern, who had this diamond early, doesn't let it go for years? We need to consider these possibilities because the Bayern management believes in him. I think it's hard for them not to believe him. He will have a great football career and experience in the big team. If he is really good, he will show it to us soon.

You should understand that everyone isn't going to react in a same pattern with a particular situation at every point, some may likely want to see good even from a bad situation just like you are seemingly doing while the others may see otherwise. At this point it's left with company to show some levels of capabilities beyond what people have taught of him much earlier. There's every possibility he turns out to be the one manager Munich needed to be back on their feet and in the other hand it's also possible he may flop and get sacked, only time will tell and at this point we should allow that happen.

In this case, Kompany is completely a “Closed Box”. We will see together what comes out of the box when it is opened. For Bayern, he is either the man of the century or another new coach to be fired. They talked to a few other good coaches, but they were unsuccessful. They are ready to take on Kompany and seem more than ready to compete fiercely with Leverkusen. It will be a great excitement to watch Bayern Munich next year.

[armanda90]

Many coaches are rejecting Bayern since the club is not competitive in other tournaments, and they need to sign key players before new coaches are interested in coaching them. Because of how successful Real Madrid has been, any coach who is given the opportunity to coach them will be overjoyed because he believes he will achieve great things with the club. Bayern Munich is a huge club, but I don't know the primary reason why they can't obtain the win title anymore, but let's see how the Kompany will perform next season with the club because Tuchel fail to win the league for them, and the Champions League Kompany can transform the club to perform well and achieve things for the club. Because you can't challenge someone unless you first see what they're capable of, and if the club doesn't see success with him, they won't try to sign him. Let's see how the next season goes or if Bayern sees a change in the league, because they shouldn't let Leverkusen challenge them next season because I see Munich is stronger than them, but I think it's because of the coach that they can't perform well.

Any manager rejected with Bayern Munich offering because they have contract left with their national teams such as Germany national manager Julian Nagelsmann reach agreement extend contract until World Cup 2026 and Ralf Rangnick still has contract left with Austria national team. Appointed any manager have contract left with their club or national teams get bit difficult for Bayern Munich than appoint manager without any club but Bayern have difference viewed behind some top manager recently not get club such as Pochettino or Jose Mourinho before appointing as Fenerbahce's manager.

Appointed Vincent Kompany as new head coach for Bayern Munich is bigger gambling behind his reputation failure with Burnley after relegated from premier league and how possibility Bayern Munich huge target for winning back domestic league and reach higher round in Champion League under manager without get experience yet participants in higher level competition.

[tygeade]

Many people think Bayern Munich made a mistake when they hired Kompaney in this team because he is not experienced and he cannot be a good coach in Bayern Munich based on the last performance we saw from this coach but the fact about Bayern Munich and Kompaney is we still didn't see anything from this coach and there is the chance for him to have a good performance there in Bayern Munich. On the other hand, Bayern Munich had no other choice than Kompany because many other coaches rejected an offer from Bayern Munich.

I am one of those people as well, I honestly think that they made a big mistake and they should have hired someone with a lot more experience. It is not even about just being bad at the last club he was, if he finished like 8th with that team, it would have been an amazing result, everyone assumed that team would go down, and they did, so he did what was expected but even if they finished 8th, that would be one season and that would be a small club.

If you are Bayern Munich, you hire someone who has been managing for a while in the big leagues, and managed some big clubs as well, like top four level clubs, managed teams in UCL level of people. They did not do that and I believe that we are talking about something much worse because of this as well.

[indah rezqi]

Everyone has been criticizing them since they appointed Vincent Kompany as the manager of the team, but what if Kompany is a diamond? What if Bayern, who had this diamond early, doesn't let it go for years? We need to consider these possibilities because the Bayern management believes in him. I think it's hard for them not to believe him. He will have a great football career and experience in the big team. If he is really good, he will show it to us soon.

You should understand that everyone isn't going to react in a same pattern with a particular situation at every point, some may likely want to see good even from a bad situation just like you are seemingly doing while the others may see otherwise. At this point it's left with company to show some levels of capabilities beyond what people have taught of him much earlier. There's every possibility he turns out to be the one manager Munich needed to be back on their feet and in the other hand it's also possible he may flop and get sacked, only time will tell and at this point we should allow that happen.

There are always opposing arguments when looking at a situation and condition, meaning there are those who are optimistic and there are also those who are pessimistic, I think this is a very natural thing in responding to the appointment of Kompany as the new manager of Bayern Munchen. Of course, only time will tell how Bayern Munchen will fare next season, overall there will be a reward at stake for Kompany, whether it is success or dismissal. Personally, I think that is the most interesting part, because it makes us continue to wonder about Bayern Munchen chances of achieving success.

We know that the competition for the Bundesliga trophy will become more competitive, Bayern Munchen will start their campaign with different ambitions, trying to win the trophy and not defend the trophy. Kompany will be saddled with that responsibility, and there are many things that could happen along the way, including a setback worse than last season. If Kompany prepares the team well, of course Bayern Munchen will be able to gain success. On the other hand, what is more interesting than the competition for the Bundesliga trophy is the presence of Leverkusen, how Bayern Munchen will overcome them with Kompany who is considered inexperienced.

[Lafu]

We cannot hope that Stuttgart will be able to repeat what they did last season, because one by one their star players have left and chosen to join other teams,

I fully agree that they dont will be making the same again as they have done last season even no player will be left the team.

apart from the lack of money to retain players, these clubs are often only used as ladders by players to be able to play at better clubs
and most of them think about taking the existing opportunities to get a better career with big clubs in the future,
so it is not surprising for us to see an exodus of players often occurring in teams that have no guarantee of continuing to compete at the top level every season.

Everybody would be going to a bigger Club if they have the chance and it would be stupid for not doing it.
I also dont know what players maybe will be coming to Stuttgart from all that money they get from the other players that left the club.
Fingers crossed that they can get some young talented players for the next season.

[Dzwaafu11]

If you say that they deliberately hired Kompany, I see some atom of truth here because if they needed a coach better than Kompany, they should have taken their time to look for one after all the season have not started yet. Also they should have looked for a better coach and contact him before the season ends.

Nobody can give the names of coaches that the management of Bayern Munich contacted that told them they cannot coach the team, who knows if there are also average coaches like Kompany for them to reject the offer of coaching a big and successful club like Bayern Munich. I hope that Kompany gives his best and make the club happy with a good outcome.

You know that there is no management that will make the wrong decisions for the betterment of their team, and I’m very sure Bayern Munich knows the potential they see in Kompany before they hire them to coach the squad. Kompany was doing well in Burley just because he did not get good players that can match with other top teams in the Premier League,

and I think the only reason why many are talking about Kompany is that he wants to get Burnley to the top of the Premier League, which is not the issue. Understand that Bayern Munich have strong and experienced players, so I’m very sure the same thing will happen to Kompany again. He will really deliver his job.

[Ryu_Ar1]

Many people think Bayern Munich made a mistake when they hired Kompaney in this team because he is not experienced and he cannot be a good coach in Bayern Munich based on the last performance we saw from this coach but the fact about Bayern Munich and Kompaney is we still didn't see anything from this coach and there is the chance for him to have a good performance there in Bayern Munich. On the other hand, Bayern Munich had no other choice than Kompany because many other coaches rejected an offer from Bayern Munich.

I am one of those people as well, I honestly think that they made a big mistake and they should have hired someone with a lot more experience. It is not even about just being bad at the last club he was, if he finished like 8th with that team, it would have been an amazing result, everyone assumed that team would go down, and they did, so he did what was expected but even if they finished 8th, that would be one season and that would be a small club.

The fact is that experience sometimes does not guarantee a coach can be successful at a club because at the end of the day when a coach is trying to coach at a club what matters is how they fit in and the chemistry they build.

It s undeniable that with the average experience coach they can make the situation quite good, it's just that in some conditions it can be a mistake.
We take the example of Xabi where he is also a coach who lacks experience because he is still new to coaching but when the chemistry match is really very good he is even able to set records that are even difficult for other clubs to do. In addition, we can also see Tuchel as an example here because he is one of the coaches who has enough experience but in the end when their chemistry match is lacking Tuchel actually makes Bayern's condition worse than before even though his experience is quite capable of managing a big club.

[GiftedMAN]

Everyone has been criticizing them since they appointed Vincent Kompany as the manager of the team, but what if Kompany is a diamond? What if Bayern, who had this diamond early, doesn't let it go for years? We need to consider these possibilities because the Bayern management believes in him. I think it's hard for them not to believe him. He will have a great football career and experience in the big team. If he is really good, he will show it to us soon.

You should understand that everyone isn't going to react in a same pattern with a particular situation at every point, some may likely want to see good even from a bad situation just like you are seemingly doing while the others may see otherwise. At this point it's left with company to show some levels of capabilities beyond what people have taught of him much earlier. There's every possibility he turns out to be the one manager Munich needed to be back on their feet and in the other hand it's also possible he may flop and get sacked, only time will tell and at this point we should allow that happen.

In this case, Kompany is completely a “Closed Box”. We will see together what comes out of the box when it is opened. For Bayern, he is either the man of the century or another new coach to be fired. They talked to a few other good coaches, but they were unsuccessful. They are ready to take on Kompany and seem more than reav2dy to compete fiercely with Leverkusen. It will be a great excitement to watch Bayern Munich next year.

I agree with you, right now Kompany is not know to be a good or a bad coach until the new season starts officially, I will Vincent Kompany is going the be the successful coach of Bayern Munich if given enough them to work on the team but I don't think it is going to be easy for them to challenge Bayer Leverkusen next season si since  the new coach Vincent Kompany will need to gets use to the team and her players before thinking about winning trophies for the Bayer Leverkusen.

[Leviathan.007]

The management of the Stuttgart club are not fighting for the title, they are fighting to stay in the Bundesliga and whenever they have any chance of making a profit by selling players,

Trust me that is not true , if they have the chance to get the title they would be fight for it , but they cant afford the money to hold that players.
If there was enough money i guess most of the players would stay in Stuttgart.
But i dosnt look good for them as Waldemar Anton und Serhou Guirassy already gone to Dortmund.
There are rumors that Pascal Groß also wants to join Dortmund.
I think that the next season will be more exciting as the last one was already.

It seems Dortmund is not sure about hiring Serhou Guirassy anymore. Serhou Guirassy had an amazing performance during last season in Stuttgart and he was an effective player for this team. This made Dortmund think about hiring this player. But in the medical tests before signing the contract, the situation of Guirassy was not good enough and that's why there is going to be a delay.
Dortmund is ready to pay 18 million euros for Guirassy.

[kawetsriyanto]

I think Bayern Munich management has its own arguments regarding the decision to choose Kompany as coach. I think what you say is also true, perhaps the Munich management is analyzing whether a young coach with a modern football philosophy will be easier and able to bring the team back to achieving its mission. Moreover, Kompany also has a strong leadership character and he also has almost the same style as Pep Guardiola so that might be another reason to consider.

Of course, Bayern Munich will never choose Kompany if they have no strong reason. It can be about the style of Kompany in managing a team, or it is about the personality of Kompany. But it is very doubtful if Bayern management chooses him because of his achievement as a manager. There are too many other coaches/managers who have a better achievement than Kompany.

Regarding the characteristic of strong leadership, I think each manager/coach has that characteristic. There is nothing special about it, it is just a common matter. However, if a coach has a charismatic impression, it can be something special. Not every coach/manager has it, it is only owned by few coaches such as Zidane, Pep Guardiola, Sir Alex Ferguson, and Ancelotti. It is too early if we assume Kompany has the nature like those coaches.

[ThemePen]

Of course, Bayern Munich will never choose Kompany if they have no strong reason. It can be about the style of Kompany in managing a team, or it is about the personality of Kompany. But it is very doubtful if Bayern management chooses him because of his achievement as a manager. There are too many other coaches/managers who have a better achievement than Kompany.

Regarding the characteristic of strong leadership, I think each manager/coach has that characteristic. There is nothing special about it, it is just a common matter. However, if a coach has a charismatic impression, it can be something special. Not every coach/manager has it, it is only owned by few coaches such as Zidane, Pep Guardiola, Sir Alex Ferguson, and Ancelotti. It is too early if we assume Kompany has the nature like those coaches.

Yes you are right Bayern Munich must have a good reason to think about making Vincent Kompany their manager. Just because he was great player doesn't mean he will be great manager. Many managers have good leadership skills but some special ones have unique way of inspiring their teams. I think it is too early to say if Kompany has what it takes to be like some of the best managers. I think Bayern Munich is probably looking at how he coaches and leads not just his achievements as a player.

[klidex]

Yes you are right Bayern Munich must have a good reason to think about making Vincent Kompany their manager. Just because he was great player doesn't mean he will be great manager. Many managers have good leadership skills but some special ones have unique way of inspiring their teams. I think it is too early to say if Kompany has what it takes to be like some of the best managers. I think Bayern Munich is probably looking at how he coaches and leads not just his achievements as a player.

One of the strong reasons may be because Vincent Company was once Pep Guardiola's assistant so Bayern Munich thought they wanted to try his coaching system and use strategies like Pep's and Pep has also said that he has the ability to lead if he is supported by great players.
Bayern Munich already has great players in it so he can use all his abilities to strengthen Bayern Munich next season. Apart from that, there is great hope that he can restore Bayern to its former glory when leading the Bundesliga without any club threatening Bayern at the top anymore.

"Vincent Kompany is the type of coach who fits perfectly with FC Bayern's playing philosophy and identity. His team wants the ball, wants to play dominant and high-intensity football,"
"He is a young, very ambitious coach, who brings a lot of international experience, can feel the players and knows exactly what should happen on the pitch. He can and will give our team a lot."

Source : Sport.detik.com

[Hirose UK]

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It seems Dortmund is not sure about hiring Serhou Guirassy anymore. Serhou Guirassy had an amazing performance during last season in Stuttgart and he was an effective player for this team. This made Dortmund think about hiring this player. But in the medical tests before signing the contract, the situation of Guirassy was not good enough and that's why there is going to be a delay.
Dortmund is ready to pay 18 million euros for Guirassy.

Yes, medical examination has been carried out and there is only one step left for Serhou Guirassy to sign contract with Dortmund, but everything has been completed and there will be further examinations or investigations regarding the existing problems.
It is indicated that Serhou Guirassy has an injury and this is what makes Dortmund doubtful about actually making an agreement to sign contract for this Stuttgart mainstay, but I sure that seeing how he played last season, the injury will definitely not be so fatal.
Let just wait and see how this problem continues, if it really isn't fatal injury then we will still be able to see Dortmund make the official signing of Serhou Guirassy in the near future.
Moreover, the presence of Serhou Guirassy can also really help Dortmund in facing the competition for next season and I believe they will do well and will really get the services of Serhou Guirassy for next season.

[rendravolt]

It seems Dortmund is not sure about hiring Serhou Guirassy anymore. Serhou Guirassy had an amazing performance during last season in Stuttgart and he was an effective player for this team. This made Dortmund think about hiring this player. But in the medical tests before signing the contract, the situation of Guirassy was not good enough and that's why there is going to be a delay.
Dortmund is ready to pay 18 million euros for Guirassy.

I think with the confirmation a few days ago from Fabrizio Romano's tweet, it is quite certain that Guirassy will become a Dortmund player but it seems that it is still being postponed due to medical test reasons. I don't know if something like this will happen and if Dortmund lowers their fees then Stuttgart will inevitably have to accept that.

The reason is that the medical test is one of the determinants for players to be able to join their new club and of course Dortmund knows the risks even though they are willing to accept Guirassy and pay him that amount of money. Now the decision lies with Stuttgart and it feels like this is a win win solution for both teams. Guirassy could still perform well and Dortmund certainly wants that in the future even if an incident like this occurs.

[topbitcoin]

I think people don't consider this a mistake but a dubious condition because Kompany has not had any notable achievements as a coach so the doubts are clearly greater than the confidence he has and this is a fairness because after all a new coach is doubtful is a fairness for a big club that has an extraordinary history and of course this is a challenge for the coach to prove that he deserves to be at a big club including for Kompany who is at Bayern at this time.

We can't blame something that we haven't even seen what the results will be like but for doubt it is normal because with what Bayern have so far and with Kompany's minimal experience, it is natural that there will be a lot of skewed views on Bayern's decision.

Basically, Kompany has succeeded when he became head coach of Burnley, but when Burnley played in the second division of the Premier League or called championship. Because at that time Kompany managed to make Burnley a Premier League promotion team but unfortunately, when playing in the Premier League in fact Kompany actually failed to make Burnley get good results. Because anyway, at the end of the season that Burnley was relegated again.

With these results, then I personally will still doubt Kompany, although at Bayern Munich of course have better finances and squad compared to mediocre teams like Burnley. But, because Kompany failed to make Burnley survive in the Premier League then I would really doubt Kompany at Bayern Munich. Because after all, to make Burnley not relegated too it has been a difficult job for Kompany, even more so to make Bayern Munich get a trophy amid difficult competition in the Bundesliga. Therefore, I personally include people who really doubt Kompany's ability, because I think Kompany is still not good enough for more difficult competition in the team that plays in the top division.

Kompany did manage to bring Burnley's promotion to the EPL but on the other hand in the end he also brought Burnley relegated which means there is a condition that must be a concern where he will still be very difficult for major competitions.

It's just that in this case he also still has a chance where we must realize that in the end being at a small club like Burnley with minimal resources is clearly different compared to Bayern and all its luxuries.
Still doubts will remain here and it is a natural thing because doubts like this always happen to every new coach but that does not mean we consider it a mistake from the start because after all we cannot consider this a mistake before seeing whether Kompany's performance is in line with expectations or not because the situation considered a failure is when Kompany does not get anything and cannot give a good performance for Bayern so he is considered a failure but at the moment we haven't even seen him play so he still cannot be said to have failed because Kompany has not shown his talent to train Bayern.