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July 13, 2024, 09:59:48 PM
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The reason why they sacked him was because Bayern Munich wasn't playing up to the expectations of the club board and the necessary steps they feel to tackle the issue was to actually sack him as a manager because if it comes to player, I think Bayern Munich already have all it takes when it comes to players to actually make things work so firing him and employing kompany is the next step, now it's just left for it to actually work out.
Previously Tuchel was overrated because he had a very good history when he coached Chelsea as a coach, especially the Bundesliga is not a new league for Tuchel so the expectations of him when coaching Bayern are very high.
It's just that the expectations were a little debunked when indeed he was unable to give the expectations given a reality because in the end since he joined to replace Nagelsmann in the first season they had to be a little troubled and even had to play until the final match so that Bayern could get the trophy and unfortunately this season they also had to accept the fact that the trophy that Bayern got for the last decade in a row had to be lost when Tuchel could not maintain it.

Technically he is a pretty good coach but on the other hand he also does not have a match with the style and philosophy that Bayern has so he will obviously be troubled to bring Bayern to its best performance and decide to part ways when Bayern fired this coach I think it was a step right for Bayern.

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July 13, 2024, 10:01:22 PM
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If I should judge Kompany based on his career records, he is not a bad coach. At the same time, he is not a good coach, so from my perspective, I view him as an average coach. Honestly, I was surprised that Bayern Munich chose Kompany as head coach because, based on his record, I don't believe he deserves the position he holds at Bayern Munich now. I can't yet conclude on his performance at Bayern Munich, but I don't expect any great performances from the team under Kompany as coach.

I remember how Chelsea made mistakes by signing Lampard as head coach, and nothing good came of it. I just hope the case of Kompany does not turn out like Lampard's tenure at Chelsea. In my view, Bayern Munich might be too big for someone like Kompany to coach. However, he does have a good squad at his disposal, which could help him perform better.

Everyone was surprised to see Vincent Kompany joining Bayern because he was the Burnley boss. The thing is, on paper, Kompany seems like an average manager, and calling him average won’t be anyone’s fault, as he doesn’t have anything that he won to show for it to be called a good manager.
But football is way beyond trophies and wins, and I think that was the main reason why Bayern went for Kompany. He has played a good amount of years at City and knows the game inside out. He has Pep’s doctrine inside him, and his footballing philosophy and tactics are much similar to Guardiola's as well.

Bayern went for a young energetic manager as this current era of football is seeing a lot of shifts to young coaches. This might be beneficial, or this might backfire too. Who knows?
Apart from looking at Kompany age as a young manager, Bayern also consider that Kompany has quality, it's just that at Burnley Kompany didn't have good squad depth. Meanwhile at Bayern, Kompany has a number of world-class players, who can increase their chances of winning every week. Honestly, if you look at the composition of Bayern current players, there is no excessive concern about their chances of winning a trophy next season. Kompany just needs to be given the time and full support to do his job well.

Meanwhile, without underestimating Leverkusen, Xabi fleet will not necessarily be able to repeat an impressive season like last season, it could be that next season a club like Dortmund, Stuttgart or Leipzig will succeed in lifting the trophy. There are many possibilities that could happen, and Kompany certainly understands the risks he will take if he fails to meet expectations. The preparations and adjustments that Kompany is currently making are quite good, the opportunity to bring Bayern back to dominating the Bundesliga next season is very open.

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July 13, 2024, 10:11:05 PM
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I think, there is no point in regretting the decisions that have been made and have happened too because anyway, it seems that Bayern Munich is always wrong in making decisions. After all, when Bayern Munich found it difficult to get a new coach before appointing Kompany, in fact Bayern Munich had previously stated that they would sack Tuchel but after that, Bayern Munich asked Tuchel to stay. But unfortunately, Tuchel also refused the request until Bayern Munich finally appointed Kompany as their new coach.

With decisions and or choices like this, I think there are still many doubts for Bayern Munich, because in my view Bayern Munich cannot do a long process. Thus, every new coach at least gets the demand to be able to quickly provide good results for Bayern Munich. But unfortunately, although Tuchel may also still have a chance to improve the situation of Bayern Munich but Bayern Munich has made quick decisions such as sacking and selecting a new coach which I think is too hasty.

It was not easy for Tuchel to work in Bayern, since his conflict with the players most likely led to such poor results in the Bundesliga, this ultimately became the reason for his departure. And they asked him to stay only when they saw that they had problems finding a new coach, I think otherwise they wouldn’t have done that. And I think the decision to appoint Kompany as head coach was hasty, although on the other hand I watched some of Bayern’s matches with Tuchel and was perplexed by his decisions, although I consider Tuchel an experienced coach.
Let's give kompany and bayern Munich too the benefit of doubt atleast the deed has already been done and what everyone has to do is to wait hold and see what and how Bayern Munich are going to hold seeing how though that the German league has turned to be, they are so many tougher team although even that too can changed

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July 13, 2024, 10:13:00 PM
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It was not easy for Tuchel to work in Bayern, since his conflict with the players most likely led to such poor results in the Bundesliga, this ultimately became the reason for his departure. And they asked him to stay only when they saw that they had problems finding a new coach, I think otherwise they wouldn’t have done that. And I think the decision to appoint Kompany as head coach was hasty, although on the other hand I watched some of Bayern’s matches with Tuchel and was perplexed by his decisions, although I consider Tuchel an experienced coach.

We can’t deny the facts that this current Bayern Munich board have definitely been in haste to make some decisions. The first was the unprecedented decision to sack Julien Neglesmann which to me was definitely a wrong decision and that’s what lead to this managerial crisis. The appointment of Tuchel was definitely not going to sit well with some board members and to worsen his own reputation he had a fight with some players like Kimmich, De Ligt and Goretzka which were what aided his departure.

There were rumors already that Bayern Munich had wanted him to stay after reaching out to multiple managers and this was definitely a disrespect to him, and not wanting to take the job back was for Tuchel’s ego which I will second was better though to show his true worth. The signing of Kompany on the other hand is a very good signing to me because of his pattern of play

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July 13, 2024, 10:19:17 PM
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The reason why they sacked him was because Bayern Munich wasn't playing up to the expectations of the club board and the necessary steps they feel to tackle the issue was to actually sack him as a manager because if it comes to player, I think Bayern Munich already have all it takes when it comes to players to actually make things work so firing him and employing kompany is the next step, now it's just left for it to actually work out.
Any form.of incompetence been exhibited by AA coach could actually lead to him been sacked by almost any team, at any point in time a team feels like their coach has been very incompetent they reserve the right to get him sacked which is exactly what Bayern Munich did to their coach at some point. He was trying the best he could but then he's literally did ended up not impressing the management well enough they had to drop him at the end of the season but I believe he could do better in his new team when he gets hired and Bayern Munich's new coach gets to satisfy the needs of the management generally.

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July 13, 2024, 11:25:04 PM
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I think, there is no point in regretting the decisions that have been made and have happened too because anyway, it seems that Bayern Munich is always wrong in making decisions. After all, when Bayern Munich found it difficult to get a new coach before appointing Kompany, in fact Bayern Munich had previously stated that they would sack Tuchel but after that, Bayern Munich asked Tuchel to stay. But unfortunately, Tuchel also refused the request until Bayern Munich finally appointed Kompany as their new coach.

With decisions and or choices like this, I think there are still many doubts for Bayern Munich, because in my view Bayern Munich cannot do a long process. Thus, every new coach at least gets the demand to be able to quickly provide good results for Bayern Munich. But unfortunately, although Tuchel may also still have a chance to improve the situation of Bayern Munich but Bayern Munich has made quick decisions such as sacking and selecting a new coach which I think is too hasty.

Exactly and I think it was about time that things will backfire for them. Bayern Munich thought they are this huge club and they can treat coaches whatever they want, but the reality is that this didn't go unnoticed. Imagine how many coaches turned down their approaches. Money is certainly not the issue as no coach ends up being poor when they sign a contract with Bayern Munich, but guys like Roger Schmidt knew that at this time it is no fun to go there and get treated like a piece of trash.

I am more than curious to see how this will end for Kompany, but I can't really see how this will be going well unless he wins 90% of the games.

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July 13, 2024, 11:27:01 PM
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It was not easy for Tuchel to work in Bayern, since his conflict with the players most likely led to such poor results in the Bundesliga, this ultimately became the reason for his departure. And they asked him to stay only when they saw that they had problems finding a new coach, I think otherwise they wouldn’t have done that.
Since he has a bad relationship among the players of Bayern Munich, he has no longer comfortable to stay in Bayern Munich. Even if he is an experienced coach, it is not a good idea to stay a longer time in Bayern Munich. I think it is the right decision to leave Bayern Munich, but Bayern Munich surely won't be easy to find the replacement.

And I think the decision to appoint Kompany as head coach was hasty, although on the other hand I watched some of Bayern’s matches with Tuchel and was perplexed by his decisions, although I consider Tuchel an experienced coach.
Actually, there were already some top coaches with free agent status at that time. Conte is one of the coaches who are available in the market. I don't know why Bayern Munich has no idea to contact him, Bayern scout prefers to take a look on Kompany. I can agree that Bayern Munich must fire Tuchel, but I am also a bit disappointed with their decision to hire Kompany. If they are not hurry, they may hire Xavi at that time because Xavi finally left Barcelona. Xavi or Conte should be better than Kompany, they are more experienced. However, I don't judge that Kompany is bad coach.



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Today at 12:43:47 AM
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Exactly and I think it was about time that things will backfire for them. Bayern Munich thought they are this huge club and they can treat coaches whatever they want, but the reality is that this didn't go unnoticed. Imagine how many coaches turned down their approaches. Money is certainly not the issue as no coach ends up being poor when they sign a contract with Bayern Munich, but guys like Roger Schmidt knew that at this time it is no fun to go there and get treated like a piece of trash.

I am more than curious to see how this will end for Kompany, but I can't really see how this will be going well unless he wins 90% of the games.
I totally agree with you. Bayern Munich was too proud and treated coaches badly thinking their name and money would make coaches forget. But many coaches like Roger Schmidt saw truth and refused to work with them. It is not about money coaches want respect. Vincent Kompany is in tough spot and it's hard to see him succeeding unless he wins almost every game. Bayern Munich bad culture and lack of support for coaches will likely lead to another failure. Club needs to look at what they are doing wrong and create positive environment where coaches and players feel valued.

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Meanwhile, without underestimating Leverkusen, Xabi fleet will not necessarily be able to repeat an impressive season like last season, it could be that next season a club like Dortmund, Stuttgart or Leipzig will succeed in lifting the trophy. There are many possibilities that could happen, and Kompany certainly understands the risks he will take if he fails to meet expectations. The preparations and adjustments that Kompany is currently making are quite good, the opportunity to bring Bayern back to dominating the Bundesliga next season is very open.
The five teams you mentioned, including Bayern Munich, are teams that are often at the top of the standings so it would be quite embarrassing for Kompany if he couldn't bring Bayern Munich back to dominating the Bundesliga next season even though he is the new coach at Bayern Munich. Because a big team like Bayern Munich always wants better results in a short time, even though a new coach actually also needs time to be able to make better preparations and adjustments once they are in the team.

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Today at 03:53:15 AM
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Meanwhile, without underestimating Leverkusen, Xabi fleet will not necessarily be able to repeat an impressive season like last season, it could be that next season a club like Dortmund, Stuttgart or Leipzig will succeed in lifting the trophy. There are many possibilities that could happen, and Kompany certainly understands the risks he will take if he fails to meet expectations. The preparations and adjustments that Kompany is currently making are quite good, the opportunity to bring Bayern back to dominating the Bundesliga next season is very open.
The five teams you mentioned, including Bayern Munich, are teams that are often at the top of the standings so it would be quite embarrassing for Kompany if he couldn't bring Bayern Munich back to dominating the Bundesliga next season even though he is the new coach at Bayern Munich. Because a big team like Bayern Munich always wants better results in a short time, even though a new coach actually also needs time to be able to make better preparations and adjustments once they are in the team.
Some of the teams discussed here would probably exclude Leipzig from the list of candidates for title holders next season. I don't doubt Leipzig, but looking at last season and the player transfers made by the team, it is not convincing enough that Leipzig can surprisingly win the title, beating Munich and Dortmund.
Regarding bringing in Kompany which is still seen as a problem in the coming season, I think that's the wrong idea and actually Munich is not one of the teams that wants to get instant results but this team chose Kompany just to enjoy the process of getting big achievements with a coach who hasn't yet too popular like Xabi.

Leverkusen, who won the bundesliga title for the first time, has so far provided great motivation for most of the teams in the Bundesliga and Munich is one of the teams that is motivated by Leverkusen's results. Give Kompanya a chance and he will prove that he can succeed with Munich.

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Today at 04:23:41 AM
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Meanwhile, without underestimating Leverkusen, Xabi fleet will not necessarily be able to repeat an impressive season like last season, it could be that next season a club like Dortmund, Stuttgart or Leipzig will succeed in lifting the trophy. There are many possibilities that could happen, and Kompany certainly understands the risks he will take if he fails to meet expectations. The preparations and adjustments that Kompany is currently making are quite good, the opportunity to bring Bayern back to dominating the Bundesliga next season is very open.
The five teams you mentioned, including Bayern Munich, are teams that are often at the top of the standings so it would be quite embarrassing for Kompany if he couldn't bring Bayern Munich back to dominating the Bundesliga next season even though he is the new coach at Bayern Munich. Because a big team like Bayern Munich always wants better results in a short time, even though a new coach actually also needs time to be able to make better preparations and adjustments once they are in the team.
In my opinion, the only ones who are often at the top are Bayern Munich, Leipzig and Dortmund. Apart from that, Leverkusen and Stuttgart are clubs that performed impressively last season.
If Bayern Munich fails to win the Bundesliga why should it be embarrassing? Isn't it natural that Kompany couldn't win a trophy in his first season? he doesn't have much experience, even Thomas Tuchel, who has a lot of experience as a coach, couldn't maintain Bayern Munich's dominance and he was defeated by young coach Xabi Alonso so Kompany was not Bayern's only mistake, the club itself chose him even though the coach was actually quite hesitant to coaching this big club.
Even so, the expectation is that a club like Bayern Munich wants another Bundesliga trophy, they will change coaches so they can make changes for the better, every club has the opportunity to win the Bundesliga depending on how they perform next season.

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