Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Mate2237]

Dortmund's target was never to win the title. They want to keep their performance stable. Dortmund's main goal is to find young players and  sell them at high prices. They have been able to produce some incredibly talented players. In this  regard, they have certainly succeeded. But if dortmund had produced a squad  suitable  for winning the title, the bundesliga would have become more competitive. There is still no squad in the bundesliga that can resist bayern munich.

The selling of young players after attaining some level of stability has been the long trend for Dortmund for a very long time,  but gradually they are beginning to tilt towards attempting to win the title but they do not seem to have fully contended for it just yet. I am saying this because  unlike before they seem not to have been involved in too many sales of players in recent times which could mean a gradual change of focus from the usual.

Dortmund as a club is not just serious if you ask me when it comes to wining the league. This is because any club that, is really serious about winning the league will not be concern about selling of their players especially the younger players who are the future of the team. Whenever a team sells off their young players they weaken their their squad and so become more vulnerable when it comes to challenging for the title challenge.



When it comes to the German Bundesliga, Dormund has not shown enough commitment when it comes to competing with Bayern munich the most Dominant team in the league. Should think about building a team with their young players that will last long which will sustain the team.

[Halifat]

The reason why Ligue 1 and Bundesliga are seen as not great league is not because there is a top team, but because other teams are not doing that great. Dortmund did alright for a season or two, but aside from that, no French team or any German team did good.
Sure Bayern could keep on winning Bundesliga every year, nobody says that makes the league bad, they can win 10 more years in a row. But if we want to consider this league decent, then other teams needs to do well in UEFA competitions as well, otherwise they are all just bad teams.

But it's incorrect to say that their leagues are of a low level. The Bundesliga is an acceptable and relatively high level, not to mention Ligue 1, where the undisputed champion, PSG, has emerged. The thing is, these teams are far superior to their leagues; that is, the other teams haven't yet been able to reach those levels. But if teams like PSG and Bayern can do it in the Bundesliga, the other teams must assume greater expenses and investments to become more competitive.

Hmm, I agree with you. Bayern are always very good at monopolizing their own territory. But the rest of the German club get into trouble when they go to the European stage. Just like PSG in Ligue 1, they are outclassed by everyone with their money. Similarly the gap between them and the rest of Europe is a living fact.

The upper authority in the circles around Dortmund and Leverkusen should be a little more concerned about these issues. Because until they invest enough, it is not possible to see a completely equal fight on this board.

I think both borussia Dortmund and Bayer Leverkusen cannot do anything because it is very cleared that they are lacking funds that is why they could not be able to compete with Bayern Munich. Based on my understanding, the reason why Bayern Munich has dominated the league unlike Paris Saint-Germain in the French League is because of money and that is why they are able to even compete with the rest of the world when it comes to buying top good players. Bayer Leverkusen was just opportune under Xavi Alonso to even start to challenge bayern Munich and since then all those courage are gone after the coach left.

[Youngrebel]

The selling of young players after attaining some level of stability has been the long trend for Dortmund for a very long time,  but gradually they are beginning to tilt towards attempting to win the title but they do not seem to have fully contended for it just yet. I am saying this because  unlike before they seem not to have been involved in too many sales of players in recent times which could mean a gradual change of focus from the usual.

Exactly Borussia Dortmund is actually one of my best team but this issue of them building young talented players and end up selling them all in the name of profit is not a good one at all and that’s why they have been struggled to keep a title and strong squad together for so many seasons now However.

[qurbanshah02]

Dortmund's target was never to win the title. They want to keep their performance stable. Dortmund's main goal is to find young players and  sell them at high prices. They have been able to produce some incredibly talented players. In this  regard, they have certainly succeeded. But if dortmund had produced a squad  suitable  for winning the title, the bundesliga would have become more competitive. There is still no squad in the bundesliga that can resist bayern munich.

The selling of young players after attaining some level of stability has been the long trend for Dortmund for a very long time,  but gradually they are beginning to tilt towards attempting to win the title but they do not seem to have fully contended for it just yet. I am saying this because  unlike before they seem not to have been involved in too many sales of players in recent times which could mean a gradual change of focus from the usual.

Dortmund as a club is not just serious if you ask me when it comes to wining the league. This is because any club that, is really serious about winning the league will not be concern about selling of their players especially the younger players who are the future of the team. Whenever a team sells off their young players they weaken their their squad and so become more vulnerable when it comes to challenging for the title challenge.

I have seen that last season they did not perform so well and they did not make any decisions that would allow them to go to the top and win the title. If Dortmund does not think of something good now and does not struggle, then they will be able to do the same for the next many years. That is why such teams want to win the title once so that they can sell their players with this success and their players will be very expensive and they will get a lot of profit. In addition, teams that have a lot of money do not need to sell players because they are happy with their success and that is why Bayern Munich will work hard for success once again and make efforts to win the title. Dortmund should think of something good this time so that his team can win the title this time.

[Humblevirus]

I think Borussia Dortmund's desire alone wouldn't be enough. I'm sure they've tried to challenge Bayern for the title on numerous occasions, but it's not that easy. And to compete with Bayern, you need a huge financial investment. Borussia Dortmund's strategy, is built on a slightly different foundation. The core of their team remains: they scout out young talent, nurture it, and sell it to other teams.

Observing Dortmund over the years, I just feel that Dortmund are not truly eager to win the Bundesliga. If they really were, they would not have sold so many of the players they let go in the past. I believe those players were good enough to challenge Bayern Munich and even win the Bundesliga in some of those seasons, and possibly compete for the UEFA Champions League as well.How can a team expect to win the league against a club that is already very strong and continues to sign more quality players to strengthen its squad, while they keep selling their own talented players? That approach makes it difficult to compete at the highest level.Recently,I have not seen Dortmund sell of their key players. Maybe it is because no club has come in with offers for their most important players, or maybe the club has changed its  strategy and try to win trophies for the fans now.

[Velvet78]

By the way why did Leipzig decide to part ways with Ole Werner? They had a really good season actually. They made a big progress compared to the previous season. Some say it is due to a problem between him and Klopp.

To win the Bundesliga title requires luck, luck that in that season Bayern have a sharp decline in performance or there is someone like Xabi or Klopp with his Dortmund, but even then it will only last for one or two seasons and the following season Bayern dominance returns. It is very difficult to be the main competitor continuously with Bayern every season who has financial strength.

That's pretty much the only chance for another team to make it indeed.    For example the 22/23 season... Bayern Munich were really a huge mess with 71 points.

But Dortmund still handed the title over to them on the final week just like that anyway! That was a big chance to take it.

[jaberwock]

Left with me I'd still say those Leagues are still of low level, despite being counted as the European top five leagues, I think that consideration is based on the country performance from maybe anything global, because deep down there are lots of leagues that is more competitive than these leagues, just imagine a particular team dominating a league that is considered to be that big for a decade, and you still expect everyone to see it as a high level league, now apart from Bayern Munich and Paris Saint Germain, which other teams can you point at that is outstanding, just the same way you can point at the English premier League, Spanish La Liga, and the Italian Seria A, to me they are still of a low level.

If you remove PSG from France, and Bayern from Bundesliga, those two leagues would be much lower, and barely be in top 10. Those two teams are great, and win and that's why these leagues are considered top five, otherwise without those teams these leagues are farmers league like everyone claims.

I understands that's the part of it, yes sometimes one team is enough, I mean France is good because of PSG so it would be naive to say they would be bad without them, because they are not without them. But Bundesliga is better than France if you ask me, no team in France is as good as Dortmund, so I would put Bundesliga a bit higher.

[ITExpert]

The reason why Ligue 1 and Bundesliga are seen as not great league is not because there is a top team, but because other teams are not doing that great. Dortmund did alright for a season or two, but aside from that, no French team or any German team did good.

Sure Bayern could keep on winning Bundesliga every year, nobody says that makes the league bad, they can win 10 more years in a row. But if we want to consider this league decent, then other teams needs to do well in UEFA competitions as well, otherwise they are all just bad teams.

I think Bundesliga is not a low level league in fact the teams which are not able to do their well and not working on that level are making the Bundesliga as not an important league. Because they need a log of efforts to make and a lot of struggles so that they can compete with the strongest team of Bundesliga which is Bayern Munich.  And it is sure that the day when all the teams are struggling and be a strong competitive to each other the hype of the Bundesliga will touch on a new level. As this is the only thing which makes Bundesliga boring and little bit low level. Because everybody knows the results before its get an end as there is only one strong team which is able and confident to get the Bundesliga title. And if any other team will not show their courage and not try to stop Bayern Munich they will definitely win this league until this change will not happen

[jakdanyel]

The Bundesliga is not a low level league maybe but there is a truth which doesn't like it will ever change. Bayern Munich just dominate this league nearly every season! 

We can never get excited about a title race. Thanks to Xabi Alonso we experienced what it means earlier but for only a year... Anyway at least the race for CL spots was fun this season.

[Abu-Naim]

Exactly Borussia Dortmund is actually one of my best team but this issue of them building young talented players and end up selling them all in the name of profit is not a good one at all and that’s why they have been struggled to keep a title and strong squad together for so many seasons now However.

They have almost lost their respect if big teams across Europe, they are not rated like they used to be rated in the past when they were performing at highest level and the fault is from them as they have decided to always sell their important players for money and build new players. This habit has dropped their performance in the Bundesliga, and they have given Bayern Munich the chance to keep ruling and dominating the Bundesliga.

The Bundesliga is not a low level league maybe but there is a truth which doesn't like it will ever change. Bayern Munich just dominate this league nearly every season! 

We can never get excited about a title race. Thanks to Xabi Alonso we experienced what it means earlier but for only a year... Anyway at least the race for CL spots was fun this season.

In the past three seasons when Bayer Leverkusen came and won the league without being defeated, the league actually performed poorly among its top leagues, but in the past two seasons, they’ve improved even though it is only Bayern Munich that improved its performance. I will be expecting the likes of Dortmund to wake up and make the competition tough again for us next season.

[Egii Nna]

Next season, Dortmund is the only one team wish could stop Bayern Munich dominance indeed not fully sure because the management of Dortmund not too loyal for signing many star player. too far to comparable qualities or level performance of Bundesliga than premier league always have unpredictable result and there are every season have difference dominance team.

We all need to know this, that Dortmund and Leipzig are just like player making machines for other teams, most especially teams in the Premier League. Dortmund has produced good players, no doubt on that, which, if they retained them, they would have been a challenge for Bayern Munich. But they sell them after the season and build another set of players to sell again. That is why the competition is not there. I can acknowledge that Dortmund and Leipzig are good teams, no doubt, but they can’t challenge Bayern Munich.

[KTChampions]

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I'm not touching league discussions till September, I have had enough with the amount of shift in the WC discussion, have you seen the cesspit there???

Wuhahahahaha  Discussing leagues when they don't even ongoing is for truly elite minds, let the rest discuss the World Cup, which is as simple as three pennies, in a thousand threads: a circus show in the group stage -> the title is played in normal games starting from the quarterfinals.
But when it comes to the Bundesliga, there are nuances here: discussing the champion is pointless - it's Bayern, and discussing who will be behind is also pointless - it's a bubbling broth where everyone rises to the surface one by one.

[hyudien]

Exactly Borussia Dortmund is actually one of my best team but this issue of them building young talented players and end up selling them all in the name of profit is not a good one at all and that’s why they have been struggled to keep a title and strong squad together for so many seasons now However.

I understand, because Dortmund is probably the only team that is closest to Bayern to compete competitively every season, so I also hate it when they sell quality players when the squad is considered sufficient to make Bayern lose the title, even they do not hesitate to sell to Bayern. But it must also be understood why they do it all, just relying on the benefits of the Bundesliga competition or becoming champions may not be enough to sustain the club, they are not in the same financial position as Bayern.

[Adams0001]

Exactly Borussia Dortmund is actually one of my best team but this issue of them building young talented players and end up selling them all in the name of profit is not a good one at all and that’s why they have been struggled to keep a title and strong squad together for so many seasons now However.

Dortmund as be a good clubs for so long term and they have a lot of fans in the league competition but when they start selling there key player to another club there performance reduce and start to struggle in the league competition and other big competitions. Is good to sell players to have a lot of profit and build your club better but I don’t see why they can’t be making good replacement when they sell good players.

Anytime a big club sell there key player they always try to have another alternative so that they won’t be struggling in coming season. They need to buy player if they really need to win the Bundesliga title next season. Munich are still in good shape and they will dominate the league next season again.

[Jaycoinz]

Exactly Borussia Dortmund is actually one of my best team but this issue of them building young talented players and end up selling them all in the name of profit is not a good one at all and that’s why they have been struggled to keep a title and strong squad together for so many seasons now However.

I understand, because Dortmund is probably the only team that is closest to Bayern to compete competitively every season, so I also hate it when they sell quality players when the squad is considered sufficient to make Bayern lose the title, even they do not hesitate to sell to Bayern. But it must also be understood why they do it all, just relying on the benefits of the Bundesliga competition or becoming champions may not be enough to sustain the club, they are not in the same financial position as Bayern.

They do this for the business aspect of the game which is the most important because grooming talents and then turning them into superstar after which they sell off for a lof of cash and they do this to almost all the big clubs on other leagues too because borussia Dortmund have been one of the teams that have sold so many world class players from midfielders, strikers to even defenders to other clubs and if they were ready to have them at the club they will definitely cause major upsets for the likes of Bayern Munich in challenging for the title.

[LUCKMCFLY]

For other teams to compete with them, they need to possess a very high level of financial power, which can only happen if a wealthy individual buys the teams, as happened with Paris Saint-Germain. In Germany, Dortmund or Leverkusen might be teams that could achieve this. If a wealthy businessman were to buy one of these teams, perhaps a second team capable of competing with Bayern Munich could emerge. Because for a long time, Bayern Munich has dominated the German league alone. Furthermore, in France, there is no team that can stop Paris Saint-Germain.

You're right, but what sheikh would want to buy a team? There must be many in this regard, but perhaps they don't put the teams up for sale, perhaps the demand isn't high. But I think that if a sheikh comes along offering such an opportunity because it is an opportunity that's being presented—then things change. But it all depends on them being able to see those options and whether they exist.

[Solodoski]

The Bundesliga is not a low level league maybe but there is a truth which doesn't like it will ever change. Bayern Munich just dominate this league nearly every season! 

We can never get excited about a title race. Thanks to Xabi Alonso we experienced what it means earlier but for only a year... Anyway at least the race for CL spots was fun this season.

The Bundesliga is not a low level league, same with La Liga but we do see one or two teams dominate the league, such leagues are considered farmers league. Aside Bayern Munich, which other club can we actually talk about, that are among title contenders for each season against Bayern. There is a notable difference between Premier League, Italian league and Bundesliga or France League, Bundesliga and France League are both farmers league, no need for sugar coating.

Once the titleship don't rotate frequently, we see the league as farmers league, Bayern Munich are capable of holding the league title for a decade without any club defending the title, it takes massive luck for other clubs to win the league, for example how Leverkusen in their best form to win the league.

[Slow death]

The Bundesliga is not a low level league maybe but there is a truth which doesn't like it will ever change. Bayern Munich just dominate this league nearly every season! 

We can never get excited about a title race. Thanks to Xabi Alonso we experienced what it means earlier but for only a year... Anyway at least the race for CL spots was fun this season.

In the 2010-2011 season, Dortmund won the Bundesliga, then won it again the following season, 2011-2012. After that, Bayern recovered and won the Bundesliga consecutively until the 2022-2023 season, 11 consecutive seasons. Then came Leverkusen, who made history by winning the Bundesliga without losing a single game.

What happened in the 2023-2024 season was unbelievable; Bayern finished in third place, behind Stuttgart. To me, that was a great humiliation. But at the same time, it showed that other teams, if they work hard, can compete with Bayern and win the title, or even second place, leaving Bayern in third.

[wakier]

The reason why Ligue 1 and Bundesliga are seen as not great league is not because there is a top team, but because other teams are not doing that great. Dortmund did alright for a season or two, but aside from that, no French team or any German team did good.

Sure Bayern could keep on winning Bundesliga every year, nobody says that makes the league bad, they can win 10 more years in a row. But if we want to consider this league decent, then other teams needs to do well in UEFA competitions as well, otherwise they are all just bad teams.

But it's incorrect to say that their leagues are of a low level. The Bundesliga is an acceptable and relatively high level, not to mention Ligue 1, where the undisputed champion, PSG, has emerged. The thing is, these teams are far superior to their leagues; that is, the other teams haven't yet been able to reach those levels. But if teams like PSG and Bayern can do it in the Bundesliga, the other teams must assume greater expenses and investments to become more competitive.

Compared to the top 5 European leagues, only the Bundesliga and League 1 are in 4th & 5th place, which as we know their leagues are always dominated by the same clubs every season. Indeed, among other leagues they are still at the top level, but they are less interesting because the competition is not too high, unlike La Liga, EPL, and Serie A. If other clubs in the Bundesliga and League 1 could recruit players like Bayern Munich and PSG, maybe the competition in the Bundesliga would be very interesting, that is if they have a lot of money and there are investors who are willing to finance them but unfortunately, not many investors want to finance small clubs. So if other clubs (Bundesliga and League 1) are not capable like Bayern Munich and PSG, the champions will remain the same for years to come.

[EL MOHA]

What happened in the 2023-2024 season was unbelievable; Bayern finished in third place, behind Stuttgart. To me, that was a great humiliation. But at the same time, it showed that other teams, if they work hard, can compete with Bayern and win the title, or even second place, leaving Bayern in third.

It was after this particular season that I actually qualified the Bundesliga as a farmers league because let’s be honest or realistic that particular season that Bayer Leverkusen won the league the Bayern Munich side were actually at their lowest which started even before that season when Dortmund bottled the league in the last game of the season. So the following season when Leverkusen actually won everything it was clear that Bayern Munich was in crisis.

My expectations was that the clubs in the league would actually capitalize on this situation and make efforts not to bring the Bavarians back again to dominance which was the same thing that was done in Seria A. After years of Juventus dominance immediately they had a crisis one season other clubs capitalized on that and since then we all know where the old ladies are, this was my serious expectations from the Bundesliga side too then