Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Inwestour]

If you observe, you'll notice that almost every team becomes stronger in the champions league even if they're struggling in their local leagues. Majority of the participating teams approach the champions league with some kind of energy.

I don't think Dortmund prioritize champions league over Bundesliga but I think the Bundesliga is just too tough for them to win because bayern Munich doesn't seem like giving any team a chance to win it anytime soon. Bayern is just too strong for any of the Bundesliga teams to handle and that's why they always find a way to win no matter how much other teams try.

I actually think Borussia Dortmund are making the Champions League a higher priority for themselves. And perhaps not necessarily because they believe they can win the Champions League, because they understand that their main rival in the Bundesliga is Bayern Munich, while in the Champions League there are several teams of that level. So winning the Champions League is even more difficult for them.

But they also understand that if they perform well in the Champions League, their players will attract more attention from top clubs. And that is something both the players and Borussia Dortmund itself have an interest in.

[Iamgoat]

I don't think Dortmund prioritize champions league over Bundesliga but I think the Bundesliga is just too tough for them to win because bayern Munich doesn't seem like giving any team a chance to win it anytime soon. Bayern is just too strong for any of the Bundesliga teams to handle and that's why they always find a way to win no matter how much other teams try.

Dortmund wants both but they can’t have it and the reason is simply because they do not have the capacity in terms of their squad depth and delivery to be able to do so. They can’t either decide to give Bundesliga more energy and push as their primary target and focus while Champions League comes in as their secondary goal. Bundesliga seems more easier to take though they will have to figure out the best way to maintain such momentum for a long period of time so as not to become at disadvantage. They are currently leading the table with 12 points and two points ahead of Bayern Munich but, even though this might sound so difficult to achieve but winning over clubs like Bayern Munich at the table will require them to go unbeaten throughout the season. It is only then they are guaranteed of taking the league, anything less than such will pose them in more danger.

[Pablo-wood]

There is no denying that the budget surplus has made it even more difficult for others to challenge the champions in their quest for the national championship title. With capital flexibility, it becomes easier for a team to raid another team of its star players, thus developing a gap that will take quite some time before someone else challenges.

It's true that the richness of clubs is an advantage that could help them sort for expensive and exceptional talents. But this is not always the case, and it has never been the yardstick to win the trophy or hold that top spots in football.

There are many factors that contribute to a club winning a title, and the manager and financial strength are certainly important factors as well. But there are other things to consider, such as the club’s long term goals. For example, Dortmund have less financial power than Bayern, yet they have consistently managed to develop young talent. But, they have struggled to win titles because Dortmund have often sold their best players for financial reasons.

Dortmund develop young talents and sell them out to make money. I think the  Bundesleague is a place where every team have their priority. Bayern priorities winning the title consistently while Dortmund see talents as commodities they should sell in exchange for club wealth. If Dortmund prioritise winning the league we will see the effort in retaining their best players but to them business is more important and the have little or no interest in winning trophies as they fail to keep their stars

[mv1986]

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Dortmund develop young talents and sell them out to make money. I think the  Bundesleague is a place where every team have their priority. Bayern priorities winning the title consistently while Dortmund see talents as commodities they should sell in exchange for club wealth. If Dortmund prioritise winning the league we will see the effort in retaining their best players but to them business is more important and the have little or no interest in winning trophies as they fail to keep their stars

You couldn't be any further from the truth. It is not about setting priorities for those clubs, it is about obligations resulting from individual conditions for each club. Bayern must win the Bundesliga. Dortmund must reach the Champions League qualifiers and must sell talents. RB Leipzig must qualify for the Champions League and Leverkusen, too. Bremen must not be relegated. Paderborn must try their best to not be relegated.

Dortmund is a publicly listed company and one level below the top clubs in Europe. Dortmund could never have signed Haaland if they didn't agree to a release a clause. They have no choice but to make concessions when they sign top players. Their salary is lower, their prestige is lower, their overall leverage to retain the best of the best players is lower. All of them leave at some point. Therefore, it is not a "priority" for Dortmund to sell talents, it is without alternatives. Dortmund could have offered Haaland 30 million salary, yet would have left because of many other reasons.

You guys talk as if it was a freely chosen agenda to sell top players. It is not. Dortmund is not Bayern. Bayern can say no to an Olise transfer, Dortmund couldn't.

[Cossyblack]

Dortmund develop young talents and sell them out to make money. I think the  Bundesleague is a place where every team have their priority. Bayern priorities winning the title consistently while Dortmund see talents as commodities they should sell in exchange for club wealth. If Dortmund prioritise winning the league we will see the effort in retaining their best players but to them business is more important and the have little or no interest in winning trophies as they fail to keep their stars

Borrusia Dortmund aren't interested in winning the title maybe that is why they focus more on business than the bundesliga. For them the business of selling their high valued players fetches them more profits than what they would be paid if they win the title. So how do you expect them to win when they are into trading of players for profits? It's more of a business and they're okay with it. Bayern Munich can go on winning the title while Dortmund occupy the second or third position, as long as they qualify for the champions and continue selling their players, they are simply okay with that. I think unless they change such mentality and stop selling their high valued players for profits,they might not win the bundesliga for decades.

[bastisisca]

There is no denying that the budget surplus has made it even more difficult for others to challenge the champions in their quest for the national championship title. With capital flexibility, it becomes easier for a team to raid another team of its star players, thus developing a gap that will take quite some time before someone else challenges.

The glorious record of the teams that were undefeated in the past gives room for some form of competition. It is an important thing that the challengers to the title should have the guts to say 'no' to the commercial idea of buying and selling the talents.

Just like what happens with Paris Saint-Germain and other top clubs that go after the star players of other less prosperous teams. Once they manage to uncover a talent, it becomes easy for them to be able to acquire him, given the talent's interest in joining a top club and the desire of the smaller teams to earn money.
Like all players these days, they only want the money and are even content with the bench.

[giorgione]

In other words, the difference between the two is due to finances. For Dortmund, selling players is a necessity to maintain the club's financial stability. In addition, when many clubs show interest, players often have no hesitation in moving for the sake of advancing their careers. 

Meanwhile, Munich is already an almost perfect team. They have stable finances, a better club history, and the mindset to aim for championships especially in the Bundesliga and UCL. For this reason it's not difficult for them to bring in players, even if those players come from their rivals in this case Dortmund.

This is also what allows Munich to dominate the Bundesliga every season, while Dortmund can only compete but can't win the title. Maybe if both clubs had equally stable finances we’d see the Bundesliga title being won by a different club each season.

Yes, let's say that over the last few years Dortmund has never even denied this type of attitude towards the club, because they have always had great players with enormous potential who they then always sold in order to bring in revenue for their own coffers, without ever actually aiming to keep these players in order to aim for something more.

[banana33]

Bayern Munich they don't really have a problem and the moment Bayern Munich top that table there will be a problem because even Dortmund can not contend with Bayern Munich we know, Bayern is just allowing Dortmund to enjoy exactly what they have now because they won't be staying long topping the table and I was not even expecting them to stay this long on the table but since they are still there let's expect something different if they will be able to stop Bayern from climbing to the top. And I can argue it that Dortmund will still not win the trophy am very sure about that. Because since the opponent's that Dortmund are meeting are not that difficult to win wait until the league gets serious.

We can undoubtedly say that this is simply a phase that Bayern are going through in which they prefer to leave space for Dortmund in a phase of crucial points for the standings because they have decided to focus more on the Champions League, but this does not mean that they will gift them the Bundesliga, on the contrary.

[Youngrebel]

Borrusia Dortmund aren't interested in winning the title maybe that is why they focus more on business than the bundesliga. For them the business of selling their high valued players fetches them more profits than what they would be paid if they win the title. So how do you expect them to win when they are into trading of players for profits? It's more of a business and they're okay with it. Bayern Munich can go on winning the title while Dortmund occupy the second or third position, as long as they qualify for the champions and continue selling their players, they are simply okay with that. I think unless they change such mentality and stop selling their high valued players for profits,they might not win the bundesliga for decades.

I don’t think Dortmund are completely okay with just finishing second or third to me from what I have observed i dont think so and I think selling players is actually part of their business strategy it doesn’t mean they don’t actually want to compete for the Bundesliga i think where the main problem is maybe whenever they train hard build a strong players and team, Bayern or any other club can just come and buy some of their best players and it’s affecting them, and making them to starting building up all over again and if a time can come where Dortmund can keep their best players for a longer period of time and play well with them then maybe they will be able to challenge Bayern.

[Primark]

Dortmund develop young talents and sell them out to make money. I think the  Bundesleague is a place where every team have their priority. Bayern priorities winning the title consistently while Dortmund see talents as commodities they should sell in exchange for club wealth. If Dortmund prioritise winning the league we will see the effort in retaining their best players but to them business is more important and the have little or no interest in winning trophies as they fail to keep their stars

Borrusia Dortmund aren't interested in winning the title maybe that is why they focus more on business than the bundesliga. For them the business of selling their high valued players fetches them more profits than what they would be paid if they win the title. So how do you expect them to win when they are into trading of players for profits? It's more of a business and they're okay with it. Bayern Munich can go on winning the title while Dortmund occupy the second or third position, as long as they qualify for the champions and continue selling their players, they are simply okay with that. I think unless they change such mentality and stop selling their high valued players for profits,they might not win the bundesliga for decades.

Part of their weakness is that they rely heavily on player development and transfer income. They have actually turned it into a business. That doesn't mean they aren't interested in winning the Bundesliga. If you look at Dortmund's statistics last season, they finished second with 73 points. Even this season, they won all four of their four league matches and were top of the table with 12 points. But their problem is that they are only looking at selling players. And when a club is only looking at selling players, it is difficult to maintain such consistency.

Their annual report is also quite interesting. They have admitted that the transfer business is their important source of income and that big transfers can sometimes reduce the quality of the squad.

[Davidloki]

Dortmund develop young talents and sell them out to make money. I think the  Bundesleague is a place where every team have their priority. Bayern priorities winning the title consistently while Dortmund see talents as commodities they should sell in exchange for club wealth. If Dortmund prioritise winning the league we will see the effort in retaining their best players but to them business is more important and the have little or no interest in winning trophies as they fail to keep their stars

I think this should be their best interest in the Bundesliga, aside winning the trophy for over a decade now. The likes of Haaland, Sancho, Bellingham, Dembele, Lewandowski, Pulisic and the rest are notable players that played for Dortmund before limelight, so it's right to say that Dortmund are in the business of breeding star players which seems like a profitable business strategy.

The current Dortmund team is doing great but it's not a team that would compete for trophies, there are no experienced players in the team right now, especially after the sale of one of their best, Adeyemi, who is at his best performance at Barcelona.

[POPOLUV]

It almost seems to me that Borussia Dortmund's main objective is to win the Champions League, given that they use their full strength during European competitions, while as far as the Bundesliga campaign is concerned, they always struggle a lot and have often come very close, but in the end without really achieving anything.
They can achieve this, for me. Stats is really good.

If you observe, you'll notice that almost every team becomes stronger in the champions league even if they're struggling in their local leagues. Majority of the participating teams approach the champions league with some kind of energy.

I don't think Dortmund prioritize champions league over Bundesliga but I think the Bundesliga is just too tough for them to win because bayern Munich doesn't seem like giving any team a chance to win it anytime soon. Bayern is just too strong for any of the Bundesliga teams to handle and that's why they always find a way to win no matter how much other teams try.

We all knows that when it comes to champions League every teams comes with different mindset out side the one they do make use of in their local leagues, so any teams that has qualify for this season champions League you not be underatetd because teams are looking at the way of being able of lifting the champions League trophy, even as Bundesliga might look more difficult for Borussia Dortmund to be dominating in all their matches but at least with the 4 matches that is played so far, Broussia Dortmund is doing marvelous well and meae while they are the one topping the Bundesliga league, it is not a bad idea of seeing Broussia Dortmund lifting the Bundesliga league in these seasons.

[tiCeR]

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We all knows that when it comes to champions League every teams comes with different mindset out side the one they do make use of in their local leagues, so any teams that has qualify for this season champions League you not be underatetd because teams are looking at the way of being able of lifting the champions League trophy, even as Bundesliga might look more difficult for Borussia Dortmund to be dominating in all their matches but at least with the 4 matches that is played so far, Broussia Dortmund is doing marvelous well and meae while they are the one topping the Bundesliga league, it is not a bad idea of seeing Broussia Dortmund lifting the Bundesliga league in these seasons.

There are countless of comments like yours and everyone knows immediately that you don't know the German Bundesliga very well and that you are not watching the matches in full. Saying that Dortmund has been doing marvelously well is a joke at best. They haven't played well against Stuttgart, they won against Hoffenheim with lots of luck on their side, lost the Super Cup against Bayern and you call all of that marvelous. Have you ever seen a Bundesliga match? You are confusing results with the level of their football. Dortmund is not good, but lucky for them is that all the other other teams are even worse.

The only acceptable match was against Paderborn, but it is hard to derive any serious conclusions from matches against teams like Paderborn. It is not very meaningful.

If you want we can arrange a bet. I give you 5:1, Dortmund will have no chance to win the Bundesliga.

[Baki202]

I don’t think Dortmund are completely okay with just finishing second or third to me from what I have observed i dont think so and I think selling players is actually part of their business strategy it doesn’t mean they don’t actually want to compete for the Bundesliga i think where the main problem is maybe whenever they train hard build a strong players and team, Bayern or any other club can just come and buy some of their best players and it’s affecting them, and making them to starting building up all over again and if a time can come where Dortmund can keep their best players for a longer period of time and play well with them then maybe they will be able to challenge Bayern.

It is not a matter of what they want is about having what it takes to be able to win and the position you think Dortmund don't want is were they will end up because Bayern Munich is one competent club that will not let things go that easily and regarding who is going to sell there players am very sure no one want to make that decision at this point because that period for selling is not a thing of concern and I feel like clubs are more focus on how they will be able to win a trophy for there club and the case of the Bundesliga and Bayern have very good players do we really think Bayern Munich will be an easy club to bypass.

Let us just wait and see how things are going to transform because because the kind 9f players that Bayern Munich have they don't really need to struggle and for some time now I think this season Dortmund seems to be more serious it was not what I expected but they are actually looking like they really want to win this season let's see how far they can go.

[AYOBA]

Let us just wait and see how things are going to transform because because the kind 9f players that Bayern Munich have they don't really need to struggle and for some time now I think this season Dortmund seems to be more serious it was not what I expected but they are actually looking like they really want to win this season let's see how far they can go.

So many people’s keep saying that Bayern Munich are the favorites to win the Bundesliga title, which previous back I reply that with way Dortmund performances seem to be a great one this season Bayern Munich is going to face some challenges. But some people prove me wrong look at it now, Dortmund are have took over the top spot from Bayern Munich.

We all know that the season is not yet over, since there’s still a lot of match to play, but so far with how Dortmund performance is going on currently if they keep it up and continue in that way it will not be easy for Bayern Munich this season.

[len01]

So many people’s keep saying that Bayern Munich are the favorites to win the Bundesliga title, which previous back I reply that with way Dortmund performances seem to be a great one this season Bayern Munich is going to face some challenges. But some people prove me wrong look at it now, Dortmund are have took over the top spot from Bayern Munich.

You are talking about Dortmund taking the top spot as if you believe they could become a strong challenger to Bayern, even though you yourself said the season is not over yet. That means Dortmund’s chances of becoming a serious challenger to Bayern are still very small.

One question we should probably keep in mind is, is this really the first time Dortmund have been in first place early in the season? Yeah, it is not the first time, and in the end Bayern went on to win the title quite comfortably without much difficulty.

[ASloveapg]

So many people’s keep saying that Bayern Munich are the favorites to win the Bundesliga title, which previous back I reply that with way Dortmund performances seem to be a great one this season Bayern Munich is going to face some challenges. But some people prove me wrong look at it now, Dortmund are have took over the top spot from Bayern Munich.

You are talking about Dortmund taking the top spot as if you believe they could become a strong challenger to Bayern, even though you yourself said the season is not over yet. That means Dortmund’s chances of becoming a serious challenger to Bayern are still very small.

One question we should probably keep in mind is, is this really the first time Dortmund have been in first place early in the season? Yeah, it is not the first time, and in the end Bayern went on to win the title quite comfortably without much difficulty.

There is no team in the Bundesliga that can compete with Bayern Munich on an equal footing. No matter how strong Borussia Dortmund is and how well they start the season, Bayern Munich is not a team that will easily give up the title, I always expect Bayern Munich to win the title at the end of the season. There are completed only 4 matches in the season and still 30 match left and Borussia Dortmund is in first place with 12 points and Bayern Munich is in second place with 10 points, so now they are only 2 points behind, this is not a problem. When Bayern start to maintain their winning streak, they will not easily lose any points. Looking at last season, Bayern Munich won 28 out of the 34 matches of the season, they lost only 1 match. This shows how influential Bayern Munich is, and so if they start winning consistently this season too, they will easily go to the top, and Bayern will win the title.

[Callido]

One question we should probably keep in mind is, is this really the first time Dortmund have been in first place early in the season? Yeah, it is not the first time, and in the end Bayern went on to win the title quite comfortably without much difficulty.

Bayern gave Dortmund the head start, it is not something new to us, at this point, it doesn't matter if Dortmund are topping the table at the moment, what is more assuring is that Bayern are not going to lose the league. It is only 2 points separating the two clubs, with only four matches played this season.

Meanwhile, Dortmund has been playing only the mid and worst clubs, we cannot classify them as huge competition for Bayern, before week 10, i expect the table to balance, back to the usual way of Bayern Munich dominating, i do not think any team is ready to put Bayern behind.

[Alonso_]

Let us just wait and see how things are going to transform because because the kind 9f players that Bayern Munich have they don't really need to struggle and for some time now I think this season Dortmund seems to be more serious it was not what I expected but they are actually looking like they really want to win this season let's see how far they can go.

So many people’s keep saying that Bayern Munich are the favorites to win the Bundesliga title, which previous back I reply that with way Dortmund performances seem to be a great one this season Bayern Munich is going to face some challenges. But some people prove me wrong look at it now, Dortmund are have took over the top spot from Bayern Munich.

We all know that the season is not yet over, since there’s still a lot of match to play, but so far with how Dortmund performance is going on currently if they keep it up and continue in that way it will not be easy for Bayern Munich this season.

So why do you think differently about Bayern Munich winning the German Bundesliga, don’t you understand that everyone is going to always think that Bayern Munich will win the Bundesliga because they’ve been very dominant for more than a decade, the fact that Dortmund is topping with two points doesn’t mean that Dortmund will end up winning the German Bundesliga.

However if they can come up with a surprise performance throughout the season like Bayern Leverkusen did in  2023-2024 season then they can have a chance of winning the Bundesliga, It’s going to take something extra special for any team to win the Bundesliga when Bayern Munich is still dominating everyone.

[Ruttoshi]

So many people’s keep saying that Bayern Munich are the favorites to win the Bundesliga title, which previous back I reply that with way Dortmund performances seem to be a great one this season Bayern Munich is going to face some challenges. But some people prove me wrong look at it now, Dortmund are have took over the top spot from Bayern Munich.

We all know that the season is not yet over, since there’s still a lot of match to play, but so far with how Dortmund performance is going on currently if they keep it up and continue in that way it will not be easy for Bayern Munich this season.

Dortmund is only on top of the table for a short time, I believe that as the season goes farther, they will get weak and start dropping points. That's when Bayern will overtake them.

You should know that Bayern squad is formidable and no team in Bundesliga can stay so strong for long. Currently, Bayern level of teams are in the Champions League and not in Bundesliga. Two points is very small and I believe that if Dortmund continue to win their matches, they will drop points when they clash with Bayern.