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[chris_nor]

If I remember from what I read about Decent and Naughty America, they have some type of solution for copyrighted content.

If Decent truly has a "solution" to this as a filmmaker in the Hollywood space (with a blockchain project) I can assure you that it will not be decentralized. And if it is "decentralized" it will not be very efficient at scale. There will be ways to get around this solution as there are ways to get around YouTube's and Google Search's solutions to stopping copyright material. Which again can be done and these entities have Billions of Dollars in funding with highly sophisticated algorithms not thousands of Bitcoin.

And you know what's even more interesting? Decentralization of content is not even the biggest pain point in Hollywood or American content at least. As a matter of fact I can argue its not even that big of a deal compared to other serious and measurable paint points. I know they are not really focused on this market but it is where all the real money is at. YouTube as a standalone company is worth $80 Billion and that is because of its American Millennial audience and content creators.

I imagine the solution being something like, whoever uploads it first has rights over it.

THanks Chris for the continued conversation. I do not know how that criteria would be helpful especially if we are talking about content that "premieres" on another platform and is taken down from there and uploaded to DECENT? Or slightly older content or newish content? Remember DECENT is not well known already and it cannot be assumed that it will automatically become the case.

Worst case scenarios should be assumed as that will allow us to gauge the real viability of a technology or value proposition.

If current content creators and providers decide to premiere their content somewhere else and it is taken down and uploaded to DECENT before the actual owners that methodology as an upload criteria would become very problematic. At least as an appeal to content creators. I'm not too sure its DECENT's plan. I honestly do not know their plan.

Many who know me and our project have pointed me to DECENT in terms of other projects that are in the content space. I actually think its cool that there are others trying to tackle content specifically visual content as there is a lot blockchain technologies can do in this space. Its a very big industry so there is space for many winners. And like any start up in the tech space you need a target demographic that can be defined and a value proposition that will onboard them. I look forward to seeing that with DECENT.

Well, in terms of Naughty America, I'm thinking that since they will be the one first with the original content, the first uploading it. Once they uploaded, others cannot upload the same file. Of course people can do other things to overcome that, like putting them in a 7zip file.

But right now people get their content for free in various places on the internet. And they're still alive because there are plenty of people still willing to pay for it.

In terms of other uploading their content cheaper, I think most users, humans in general, if they have to pay will give the money to the company that's making videos. Especially since the prices are going to be lowered with the fact that Decent makes it cheaper for such a company to publish a movie.

The one thing that really can make Decent successful is if the average person finds an easy way of using cash to purchase Decent content. Maybe such a company like the one we're using as an example can sell directly using cash that gets converted to DCTs.

Ok thanks for the clarification. I see what you mean there. I'm glad you at least understand there are ways around it. In addition to other use cases that may actually deter content creators from a decentralized content platform.

I'm also glad you acknowledge the reality that platforms that actually support paying content are crucial to "free" streaming or torrent platforms survival. As someone who plays in both arenas I can tell you they are both needed at a certain ration in the market. You simply cannot make the highest quality content if everyone gets it for free or free with ads that do not go to the actual content creator. But at the same time content creators who make high quality content need better monetization models that get their content into the hands of consumers fast and at the right price for growth.

I will not comment on what can or cannot make DECENT successful as I do not know their target audience for the content creator side or consumer side. I will say this though as an American... If you are leading your platforms content acquisition with Porn content? You are shooting yourself in the foot. There is a reason why Netflix, Amazon, Google Play, Apple TV and other top notch content platforms in the space stay far far far away from outright porn for as long as they can...

Why or why Decent would ever look to that market to start with is beyond me. But as I say I do not know who their target market is. But I will say that porn does not make a content platform scale AT ALL. In my opinion it will actually kill a platform that wants to be used by mainstream consumers. Especially if your marketed by word of mouth that porn is a main stay on the platform... You will get killed by the mainstream (At least in America). And your competition will be more than happy to make sure their customers know this about you if you ever even thought about stepping into the market and competing.

I really do want to know who they are getting their content acquisition consultation from. I hope its not just anyone who shows up wanting to use our tech first is who we will work with. But hey maybe they know something I don't. Guess we will see.

But Decent is decentralized. Nobody controls it. It's meant to distribute any digital contents. It could be Steam, where game creator can sell their games and not have to give 50% to a 3rd party company, for example. Books, authors, etc. Indi mucians can sell their music dirt cheap. It's anything digital. And even if it was just porn, porn is an extremely big industry. But the point is that it's a decentralized technology that lots of different industries can use, so if a family friendly would not use it, then no big deal. If it can make them money, they will use it anyway. In a way it's like saying, Disney will not use the internet because you can use the internet to get porn. When there's so much more than that on the internet.

[SolomonSollarsNSense]

If I remember from what I read about Decent and Naughty America, they have some type of solution for copyrighted content.

If Decent truly has a "solution" to this as a filmmaker in the Hollywood space (with a blockchain project) I can assure you that it will not be decentralized. And if it is "decentralized" it will not be very efficient at scale. There will be ways to get around this solution as there are ways to get around YouTube's and Google Search's solutions to stopping copyright material. Which again can be done and these entities have Billions of Dollars in funding with highly sophisticated algorithms not thousands of Bitcoin.

And you know what's even more interesting? Decentralization of content is not even the biggest pain point in Hollywood or American content at least. As a matter of fact I can argue its not even that big of a deal compared to other serious and measurable paint points. I know they are not really focused on this market but it is where all the real money is at. YouTube as a standalone company is worth $80 Billion and that is because of its American Millennial audience and content creators.

I imagine the solution being something like, whoever uploads it first has rights over it.

THanks Chris for the continued conversation. I do not know how that criteria would be helpful especially if we are talking about content that "premieres" on another platform and is taken down from there and uploaded to DECENT? Or slightly older content or newish content? Remember DECENT is not well known already and it cannot be assumed that it will automatically become the case.

Worst case scenarios should be assumed as that will allow us to gauge the real viability of a technology or value proposition.

If current content creators and providers decide to premiere their content somewhere else and it is taken down and uploaded to DECENT before the actual owners that methodology as an upload criteria would become very problematic. At least as an appeal to content creators. I'm not too sure its DECENT's plan. I honestly do not know their plan.

Many who know me and our project have pointed me to DECENT in terms of other projects that are in the content space. I actually think its cool that there are others trying to tackle content specifically visual content as there is a lot blockchain technologies can do in this space. Its a very big industry so there is space for many winners. And like any start up in the tech space you need a target demographic that can be defined and a value proposition that will onboard them. I look forward to seeing that with DECENT.

Well, in terms of Naughty America, I'm thinking that since they will be the one first with the original content, the first uploading it. Once they uploaded, others cannot upload the same file. Of course people can do other things to overcome that, like putting them in a 7zip file.

But right now people get their content for free in various places on the internet. And they're still alive because there are plenty of people still willing to pay for it.

In terms of other uploading their content cheaper, I think most users, humans in general, if they have to pay will give the money to the company that's making videos. Especially since the prices are going to be lowered with the fact that Decent makes it cheaper for such a company to publish a movie.

The one thing that really can make Decent successful is if the average person finds an easy way of using cash to purchase Decent content. Maybe such a company like the one we're using as an example can sell directly using cash that gets converted to DCTs.

Ok thanks for the clarification. I see what you mean there. I'm glad you at least understand there are ways around it. In addition to other use cases that may actually deter content creators from a decentralized content platform.

I'm also glad you acknowledge the reality that platforms that actually support paying content are crucial to "free" streaming or torrent platforms survival. As someone who plays in both arenas I can tell you they are both needed at a certain ration in the market. You simply cannot make the highest quality content if everyone gets it for free or free with ads that do not go to the actual content creator. But at the same time content creators who make high quality content need better monetization models that get their content into the hands of consumers fast and at the right price for growth.

I will not comment on what can or cannot make DECENT successful as I do not know their target audience for the content creator side or consumer side. I will say this though as an American... If you are leading your platforms content acquisition with Porn content? You are shooting yourself in the foot. There is a reason why Netflix, Amazon, Google Play, Apple TV and other top notch content platforms in the space stay far far far away from outright porn for as long as they can...

Why or why Decent would ever look to that market to start with is beyond me. But as I say I do not know who their target market is. But I will say that porn does not make a content platform scale AT ALL. In my opinion it will actually kill a platform that wants to be used by mainstream consumers. Especially if your marketed by word of mouth that porn is a main stay on the platform... You will get killed by the mainstream (At least in America). And your competition will be more than happy to make sure their customers know this about you if you ever even thought about stepping into the market and competing.

I really do want to know who they are getting their content acquisition consultation from. I hope its not just anyone who shows up wanting to use our tech first is who we will work with. But hey maybe they know something I don't. Guess we will see.

But Decent is decentralized. Nobody controls it. It's meant to distribute any digital contents. It could be Steam, where game creator can sell their games and not have to give 50% to a 3rd party company, for example. Books, authors, etc. Indi mucians can sell their music dirt cheap. It's anything digital. And even if it was just porn, porn is an extremely big industry. But the point is that it's a decentralized technology that lots of different industries can use, so if a family friendly would not use it, then no big deal. If it can make them money, they will use it anyway. In a way it's like saying, Disney will not use the internet because you can use the internet to get porn. When there's so much more than that on the internet.

I totally understand this Chris... I think what I am trying to get you to understand is that its not a selling point or a viable value proposition for visual content. At least for mainstream adoption. That does not mean it will not work for other types of content as you mentioned. Im not in those spaces. I'm only talking about Hollywood and visual content as I know the industry very well. And when DECENT was brought up to me people really were selling its use for visual content...

Look I'm from Bitshares. We have amazing technology that appealed to so much of the market. We started DPOS and look at its adoption in so many projects. Is our market cap benefiting from it? We have so many features that appeal to so many industries. We had it way before the competition. Did that mean our price would go up?

My point is competition IS REAL and features are not a value proposition to beat it. Saying my technology will appeal to everyone is not a viable value proposition. We did it. Didnt work. Also are we not remembering Ethereum? You need business models that can actually sell your technologies use cases from day one in the face of competition.

Decentralization is not a value proposition any longer. Especially when the competition can use the very open source technology to get its benefits without the de in decentral.

Finally I can assure you when it comes to marketing. Americans and mainstream consumers will not simply here "its decentralized" and works like XYZ (ie The Internet). If there is questionable content. They will want to know an accountable authority to its uploading criteria. And your competition will use it against you. Decent is for any type of content. I get it. But that is the wonders of its technology and touches on nothing that has to do with its business appeal in a heavily saturated market of competition. Both in the crypto space and outside of it.

[oneyesoneno]

If I remember from what I read about Decent and Naughty America, they have some type of solution for copyrighted content.

If Decent truly has a "solution" to this as a filmmaker in the Hollywood space (with a blockchain project) I can assure you that it will not be decentralized. And if it is "decentralized" it will not be very efficient at scale. There will be ways to get around this solution as there are ways to get around YouTube's and Google Search's solutions to stopping copyright material. Which again can be done and these entities have Billions of Dollars in funding with highly sophisticated algorithms not thousands of Bitcoin.

And you know what's even more interesting? Decentralization of content is not even the biggest pain point in Hollywood or American content at least. As a matter of fact I can argue its not even that big of a deal compared to other serious and measurable paint points. I know they are not really focused on this market but it is where all the real money is at. YouTube as a standalone company is worth $80 Billion and that is because of its American Millennial audience and content creators.

I imagine the solution being something like, whoever uploads it first has rights over it.

THanks Chris for the continued conversation. I do not know how that criteria would be helpful especially if we are talking about content that "premieres" on another platform and is taken down from there and uploaded to DECENT? Or slightly older content or newish content? Remember DECENT is not well known already and it cannot be assumed that it will automatically become the case.

Worst case scenarios should be assumed as that will allow us to gauge the real viability of a technology or value proposition.

If current content creators and providers decide to premiere their content somewhere else and it is taken down and uploaded to DECENT before the actual owners that methodology as an upload criteria would become very problematic. At least as an appeal to content creators. I'm not too sure its DECENT's plan. I honestly do not know their plan.

Many who know me and our project have pointed me to DECENT in terms of other projects that are in the content space. I actually think its cool that there are others trying to tackle content specifically visual content as there is a lot blockchain technologies can do in this space. Its a very big industry so there is space for many winners. And like any start up in the tech space you need a target demographic that can be defined and a value proposition that will onboard them. I look forward to seeing that with DECENT.

Well, in terms of Naughty America, I'm thinking that since they will be the one first with the original content, the first uploading it. Once they uploaded, others cannot upload the same file. Of course people can do other things to overcome that, like putting them in a 7zip file.

But right now people get their content for free in various places on the internet. And they're still alive because there are plenty of people still willing to pay for it.

In terms of other uploading their content cheaper, I think most users, humans in general, if they have to pay will give the money to the company that's making videos. Especially since the prices are going to be lowered with the fact that Decent makes it cheaper for such a company to publish a movie.

The one thing that really can make Decent successful is if the average person finds an easy way of using cash to purchase Decent content. Maybe such a company like the one we're using as an example can sell directly using cash that gets converted to DCTs.

Ok thanks for the clarification. I see what you mean there. I'm glad you at least understand there are ways around it. In addition to other use cases that may actually deter content creators from a decentralized content platform.

I'm also glad you acknowledge the reality that platforms that actually support paying content are crucial to "free" streaming or torrent platforms survival. As someone who plays in both arenas I can tell you they are both needed at a certain ration in the market. You simply cannot make the highest quality content if everyone gets it for free or free with ads that do not go to the actual content creator. But at the same time content creators who make high quality content need better monetization models that get their content into the hands of consumers fast and at the right price for growth.

I will not comment on what can or cannot make DECENT successful as I do not know their target audience for the content creator side or consumer side. I will say this though as an American... If you are leading your platforms content acquisition with Porn content? You are shooting yourself in the foot. There is a reason why Netflix, Amazon, Google Play, Apple TV and other top notch content platforms in the space stay far far far away from outright porn for as long as they can...

Why or why Decent would ever look to that market to start with is beyond me. But as I say I do not know who their target market is. But I will say that porn does not make a content platform scale AT ALL. In my opinion it will actually kill a platform that wants to be used by mainstream consumers. Especially if your marketed by word of mouth that porn is a main stay on the platform... You will get killed by the mainstream (At least in America). And your competition will be more than happy to make sure their customers know this about you if you ever even thought about stepping into the market and competing.

I really do want to know who they are getting their content acquisition consultation from. I hope its not just anyone who shows up wanting to use our tech first is who we will work with. But hey maybe they know something I don't. Guess we will see.

But Decent is decentralized. Nobody controls it. It's meant to distribute any digital contents. It could be Steam, where game creator can sell their games and not have to give 50% to a 3rd party company, for example. Books, authors, etc. Indi mucians can sell their music dirt cheap. It's anything digital. And even if it was just porn, porn is an extremely big industry. But the point is that it's a decentralized technology that lots of different industries can use, so if a family friendly would not use it, then no big deal. If it can make them money, they will use it anyway. In a way it's like saying, Disney will not use the internet because you can use the internet to get porn. When there's so much more than that on the internet.

I totally understand this Chris... I think what I am trying to get you to understand is that its not a selling point or a viable value proposition for visual content. At least for mainstream adoption. That does not mean it will not work for other types of content as you mentioned. Im not in those spaces. I'm only talking about Hollywood and visual content as I know the industry very well. And when DECENT was brought up to me people really were selling its use for visual content...

Look I'm from Bitshares. We have amazing technology that appealed to so much of the market. We started DPOS and look at its adoption in so many projects. Is our market cap benefiting from it? We have so many features that appeal to so many industries. We had it way before the competition. Did that mean our price would go up?

My point is competition IS REAL and features are not a value proposition to beat it. Saying my technology will appeal to everyone is not a viable value proposition. We did it. Didnt work. Also are we not remembering Ethereum? You need business models that can actually sell your technologies use cases from day one in the face of competition.

Decentralization is not a value proposition any longer. Especially when the competition can use the very open source technology to get its benefits without the de in decentral.

Finally I can assure you when it comes to marketing. Americans and mainstream consumers will not simply here "its decentralized" and works like XYZ (ie The Internet). If there is questionable content. They will want to know an accountable authority to its uploading criteria. And your competition will use it against you. Decent is for any type of content. I get it. But that is the wonders of its technology and touches on nothing that has to do with its business appeal in a heavily saturated market of competition. Both in the crypto space and outside of it.

At the end of the road... crypto's technology aka. blockchain is still young on these era; like a baby who is still learning how to walk. So... it true that at this earlier stage some things won't always go as we expect it to be. But... we don't know the future, and i think it is worth the troubles to be earlier starter & adopter than latter.

[chris_nor]

If I remember from what I read about Decent and Naughty America, they have some type of solution for copyrighted content.

If Decent truly has a "solution" to this as a filmmaker in the Hollywood space (with a blockchain project) I can assure you that it will not be decentralized. And if it is "decentralized" it will not be very efficient at scale. There will be ways to get around this solution as there are ways to get around YouTube's and Google Search's solutions to stopping copyright material. Which again can be done and these entities have Billions of Dollars in funding with highly sophisticated algorithms not thousands of Bitcoin.

And you know what's even more interesting? Decentralization of content is not even the biggest pain point in Hollywood or American content at least. As a matter of fact I can argue its not even that big of a deal compared to other serious and measurable paint points. I know they are not really focused on this market but it is where all the real money is at. YouTube as a standalone company is worth $80 Billion and that is because of its American Millennial audience and content creators.

I imagine the solution being something like, whoever uploads it first has rights over it.

THanks Chris for the continued conversation. I do not know how that criteria would be helpful especially if we are talking about content that "premieres" on another platform and is taken down from there and uploaded to DECENT? Or slightly older content or newish content? Remember DECENT is not well known already and it cannot be assumed that it will automatically become the case.

Worst case scenarios should be assumed as that will allow us to gauge the real viability of a technology or value proposition.

If current content creators and providers decide to premiere their content somewhere else and it is taken down and uploaded to DECENT before the actual owners that methodology as an upload criteria would become very problematic. At least as an appeal to content creators. I'm not too sure its DECENT's plan. I honestly do not know their plan.

Many who know me and our project have pointed me to DECENT in terms of other projects that are in the content space. I actually think its cool that there are others trying to tackle content specifically visual content as there is a lot blockchain technologies can do in this space. Its a very big industry so there is space for many winners. And like any start up in the tech space you need a target demographic that can be defined and a value proposition that will onboard them. I look forward to seeing that with DECENT.

Well, in terms of Naughty America, I'm thinking that since they will be the one first with the original content, the first uploading it. Once they uploaded, others cannot upload the same file. Of course people can do other things to overcome that, like putting them in a 7zip file.

But right now people get their content for free in various places on the internet. And they're still alive because there are plenty of people still willing to pay for it.

In terms of other uploading their content cheaper, I think most users, humans in general, if they have to pay will give the money to the company that's making videos. Especially since the prices are going to be lowered with the fact that Decent makes it cheaper for such a company to publish a movie.

The one thing that really can make Decent successful is if the average person finds an easy way of using cash to purchase Decent content. Maybe such a company like the one we're using as an example can sell directly using cash that gets converted to DCTs.

Ok thanks for the clarification. I see what you mean there. I'm glad you at least understand there are ways around it. In addition to other use cases that may actually deter content creators from a decentralized content platform.

I'm also glad you acknowledge the reality that platforms that actually support paying content are crucial to "free" streaming or torrent platforms survival. As someone who plays in both arenas I can tell you they are both needed at a certain ration in the market. You simply cannot make the highest quality content if everyone gets it for free or free with ads that do not go to the actual content creator. But at the same time content creators who make high quality content need better monetization models that get their content into the hands of consumers fast and at the right price for growth.

I will not comment on what can or cannot make DECENT successful as I do not know their target audience for the content creator side or consumer side. I will say this though as an American... If you are leading your platforms content acquisition with Porn content? You are shooting yourself in the foot. There is a reason why Netflix, Amazon, Google Play, Apple TV and other top notch content platforms in the space stay far far far away from outright porn for as long as they can...

Why or why Decent would ever look to that market to start with is beyond me. But as I say I do not know who their target market is. But I will say that porn does not make a content platform scale AT ALL. In my opinion it will actually kill a platform that wants to be used by mainstream consumers. Especially if your marketed by word of mouth that porn is a main stay on the platform... You will get killed by the mainstream (At least in America). And your competition will be more than happy to make sure their customers know this about you if you ever even thought about stepping into the market and competing.

I really do want to know who they are getting their content acquisition consultation from. I hope its not just anyone who shows up wanting to use our tech first is who we will work with. But hey maybe they know something I don't. Guess we will see.

But Decent is decentralized. Nobody controls it. It's meant to distribute any digital contents. It could be Steam, where game creator can sell their games and not have to give 50% to a 3rd party company, for example. Books, authors, etc. Indi mucians can sell their music dirt cheap. It's anything digital. And even if it was just porn, porn is an extremely big industry. But the point is that it's a decentralized technology that lots of different industries can use, so if a family friendly would not use it, then no big deal. If it can make them money, they will use it anyway. In a way it's like saying, Disney will not use the internet because you can use the internet to get porn. When there's so much more than that on the internet.

I totally understand this Chris... I think what I am trying to get you to understand is that its not a selling point or a viable value proposition for visual content. At least for mainstream adoption. That does not mean it will not work for other types of content as you mentioned. Im not in those spaces. I'm only talking about Hollywood and visual content as I know the industry very well. And when DECENT was brought up to me people really were selling its use for visual content...

Look I'm from Bitshares. We have amazing technology that appealed to so much of the market. We started DPOS and look at its adoption in so many projects. Is our market cap benefiting from it? We have so many features that appeal to so many industries. We had it way before the competition. Did that mean our price would go up?

My point is competition IS REAL and features are not a value proposition to beat it. Saying my technology will appeal to everyone is not a viable value proposition. We did it. Didnt work. Also are we not remembering Ethereum? You need business models that can actually sell your technologies use cases from day one in the face of competition.

Decentralization is not a value proposition any longer. Especially when the competition can use the very open source technology to get its benefits without the de in decentral.

Finally I can assure you when it comes to marketing. Americans and mainstream consumers will not simply here "its decentralized" and works like XYZ (ie The Internet). If there is questionable content. They will want to know an accountable authority to its uploading criteria. And your competition will use it against you. Decent is for any type of content. I get it. But that is the wonders of its technology and touches on nothing that has to do with its business appeal in a heavily saturated market of competition. Both in the crypto space and outside of it.

We might just be measuring success in different ways. I think Decent has a lot of potential, vs other alt coins. Possibly a top 3 coin. So I'm not looking at it as in it has to beat these major corporations, and that it has to become well known to the public as a Netflix is known. Especially since it's coming from a world that most people will not bother giving a thought to. The initial thought of the average person is that people in Crypto is that it's people playing with make believe money. Earlier I mentioned something that it would be beneficial for Decent if anyone publishing content with it could take fiat and converted in real time to DCT, because the average person is just not going to go to an exchange to buy DCT to use.

Another good thing going for Decent and its possible success is the hardware that the creators are developing. Not only could that bring in more people into the platform, but it's also something that someone who forks the open source software can do themselves.

I have to go to bed. So I'll be back tomorrow.

[YNWA2806]

Hey DECENT and Team, you keep ignoring my PMs but I want to get an answer.
You rubbed me of my well deserved Signature campaign bounty just for two days after you changed the rules without making sure everybody knows and prolonged it.
The least you can do is answer and give reasonable reasons for that.
Look on the history of the thread see how involved I was, I even freake'n translated the OP, and you never even considered that.

I tried my best not to spam this thread but your'e over looking my questions so deal with it and give me my answers

try contact decent team on slack channel or twitter

I will try also I'm skeptic after they keep ignoring me, thanks

[jacaf01]

WTS 10 stakes (500DCT) at average ICO price. These stakes are bound to my bitcointalk account and were acquired through the signature campaign. You can verify this by searching my name  on the signature campaign spreadsheet. You are purchasing my bitcointalk account. I will use escrow or go first to someone I can trust. Pm me.

Why sell your stake? Decent is going to be pretty big.

I think he is one of those that Decent gives free stake for doing nothing, the activity count is quite low.

[SolomonSollarsNSense]

If I remember from what I read about Decent and Naughty America, they have some type of solution for copyrighted content.

If Decent truly has a "solution" to this as a filmmaker in the Hollywood space (with a blockchain project) I can assure you that it will not be decentralized. And if it is "decentralized" it will not be very efficient at scale. There will be ways to get around this solution as there are ways to get around YouTube's and Google Search's solutions to stopping copyright material. Which again can be done and these entities have Billions of Dollars in funding with highly sophisticated algorithms not thousands of Bitcoin.

And you know what's even more interesting? Decentralization of content is not even the biggest pain point in Hollywood or American content at least. As a matter of fact I can argue its not even that big of a deal compared to other serious and measurable paint points. I know they are not really focused on this market but it is where all the real money is at. YouTube as a standalone company is worth $80 Billion and that is because of its American Millennial audience and content creators.

I imagine the solution being something like, whoever uploads it first has rights over it.

THanks Chris for the continued conversation. I do not know how that criteria would be helpful especially if we are talking about content that "premieres" on another platform and is taken down from there and uploaded to DECENT? Or slightly older content or newish content? Remember DECENT is not well known already and it cannot be assumed that it will automatically become the case.

Worst case scenarios should be assumed as that will allow us to gauge the real viability of a technology or value proposition.

If current content creators and providers decide to premiere their content somewhere else and it is taken down and uploaded to DECENT before the actual owners that methodology as an upload criteria would become very problematic. At least as an appeal to content creators. I'm not too sure its DECENT's plan. I honestly do not know their plan.

Many who know me and our project have pointed me to DECENT in terms of other projects that are in the content space. I actually think its cool that there are others trying to tackle content specifically visual content as there is a lot blockchain technologies can do in this space. Its a very big industry so there is space for many winners. And like any start up in the tech space you need a target demographic that can be defined and a value proposition that will onboard them. I look forward to seeing that with DECENT.

Well, in terms of Naughty America, I'm thinking that since they will be the one first with the original content, the first uploading it. Once they uploaded, others cannot upload the same file. Of course people can do other things to overcome that, like putting them in a 7zip file.

But right now people get their content for free in various places on the internet. And they're still alive because there are plenty of people still willing to pay for it.

In terms of other uploading their content cheaper, I think most users, humans in general, if they have to pay will give the money to the company that's making videos. Especially since the prices are going to be lowered with the fact that Decent makes it cheaper for such a company to publish a movie.

The one thing that really can make Decent successful is if the average person finds an easy way of using cash to purchase Decent content. Maybe such a company like the one we're using as an example can sell directly using cash that gets converted to DCTs.

Ok thanks for the clarification. I see what you mean there. I'm glad you at least understand there are ways around it. In addition to other use cases that may actually deter content creators from a decentralized content platform.

I'm also glad you acknowledge the reality that platforms that actually support paying content are crucial to "free" streaming or torrent platforms survival. As someone who plays in both arenas I can tell you they are both needed at a certain ration in the market. You simply cannot make the highest quality content if everyone gets it for free or free with ads that do not go to the actual content creator. But at the same time content creators who make high quality content need better monetization models that get their content into the hands of consumers fast and at the right price for growth.

I will not comment on what can or cannot make DECENT successful as I do not know their target audience for the content creator side or consumer side. I will say this though as an American... If you are leading your platforms content acquisition with Porn content? You are shooting yourself in the foot. There is a reason why Netflix, Amazon, Google Play, Apple TV and other top notch content platforms in the space stay far far far away from outright porn for as long as they can...

Why or why Decent would ever look to that market to start with is beyond me. But as I say I do not know who their target market is. But I will say that porn does not make a content platform scale AT ALL. In my opinion it will actually kill a platform that wants to be used by mainstream consumers. Especially if your marketed by word of mouth that porn is a main stay on the platform... You will get killed by the mainstream (At least in America). And your competition will be more than happy to make sure their customers know this about you if you ever even thought about stepping into the market and competing.

I really do want to know who they are getting their content acquisition consultation from. I hope its not just anyone who shows up wanting to use our tech first is who we will work with. But hey maybe they know something I don't. Guess we will see.

But Decent is decentralized. Nobody controls it. It's meant to distribute any digital contents. It could be Steam, where game creator can sell their games and not have to give 50% to a 3rd party company, for example. Books, authors, etc. Indi mucians can sell their music dirt cheap. It's anything digital. And even if it was just porn, porn is an extremely big industry. But the point is that it's a decentralized technology that lots of different industries can use, so if a family friendly would not use it, then no big deal. If it can make them money, they will use it anyway. In a way it's like saying, Disney will not use the internet because you can use the internet to get porn. When there's so much more than that on the internet.

I totally understand this Chris... I think what I am trying to get you to understand is that its not a selling point or a viable value proposition for visual content. At least for mainstream adoption. That does not mean it will not work for other types of content as you mentioned. Im not in those spaces. I'm only talking about Hollywood and visual content as I know the industry very well. And when DECENT was brought up to me people really were selling its use for visual content...

Look I'm from Bitshares. We have amazing technology that appealed to so much of the market. We started DPOS and look at its adoption in so many projects. Is our market cap benefiting from it? We have so many features that appeal to so many industries. We had it way before the competition. Did that mean our price would go up?

My point is competition IS REAL and features are not a value proposition to beat it. Saying my technology will appeal to everyone is not a viable value proposition. We did it. Didnt work. Also are we not remembering Ethereum? You need business models that can actually sell your technologies use cases from day one in the face of competition.

Decentralization is not a value proposition any longer. Especially when the competition can use the very open source technology to get its benefits without the de in decentral.

Finally I can assure you when it comes to marketing. Americans and mainstream consumers will not simply here "its decentralized" and works like XYZ (ie The Internet). If there is questionable content. They will want to know an accountable authority to its uploading criteria. And your competition will use it against you. Decent is for any type of content. I get it. But that is the wonders of its technology and touches on nothing that has to do with its business appeal in a heavily saturated market of competition. Both in the crypto space and outside of it.

We might just be measuring success in different ways. I think Decent has a lot of potential, vs other alt coins. Possibly a top 3 coin. So I'm not looking at it as in it has to beat these major corporations, and that it has to become well known to the public as a Netflix is known. Especially since it's coming from a world that most people will not bother giving a thought to. The initial thought of the average person is that people in Crypto is that it's people playing with make believe money. Earlier I mentioned something that it would be beneficial for Decent if anyone publishing content with it could take fiat and converted in real time to DCT, because the average person is just not going to go to an exchange to buy DCT to use.

Another good thing going for Decent and its possible success is the hardware that the creators are developing. Not only could that bring in more people into the platform, but it's also something that someone who forks the open source software can do themselves.

I have to go to bed. So I'll be back tomorrow.

No worries. Cant really argue with this. As if you put it in this frame of thought I would actually agree. Plus I'm weary of this sounding like FUD. I appreciate the thoughtful conversation. I'll say it again I am actually glad DECENT exists because it shows the market is receptive to content blockchains. At least on the funding side.

It is true that we all will measure success differently. We will measure success on the basis of mainstream adoption for our project. Interestingly enough I agree DECENT would not need to be mainstream to get to top 3 or beyond that in the content space in terms of market cap. BUT if it did actually get mainstream adoption and kept it unlike SteemIt it would beat Bitcoin's market cap. Like FOR REAL. Thats the trade off. Success or YUUUUGE SUCCESS!!!  

[YNWA2806]

Hey DECENT and Team, you keep ignoring my PMs but I want to get an answer.
You rubbed me of my well deserved Signature campaign bounty just for two days after you changed the rules without making sure everybody knows and prolonged it.
The least you can do is answer and give reasonable reasons for that.
Look on the history of the thread see how involved I was, I even freake'n translated the OP, and you never even considered that.

I tried my best not to spam this thread but your'e over looking my questions so deal with it and give me my answers

How exactly were you robbed? Did you remove your signature campaign before they checked it?

Apparently a day before, although I saw their post only after. eventually I wore the signature for couple of days further than the length of the ICO but a day or two before they checked.
I've been here from day one, doesn't feel right to forfeit the entire bounty for a single day out of merely 60...

[voteformeg]

Hey DECENT and Team, you keep ignoring my PMs but I want to get an answer.
You rubbed me of my well deserved Signature campaign bounty just for two days after you changed the rules without making sure everybody knows and prolonged it.
The least you can do is answer and give reasonable reasons for that.
Look on the history of the thread see how involved I was, I even freake'n translated the OP, and you never even considered that.

I tried my best not to spam this thread but your'e over looking my questions so deal with it and give me my answers

How exactly were you robbed? Did you remove your signature campaign before they checked it?

Apparently a day before, although I saw their post only after. eventually I wore the signature for couple of days further than the length of the ICO but a day or two before they checked.
I've been here from day one, doesn't feel right to forfeit the entire bounty for a single day out of merely 60...

same for me , i removed it for couple of days and put it back after i understood that i have to keep it longer , i keep it till now but now i am done with decent and sell all ico coins as soon as possible , anyway good luck for you all with decent

[Michael79]

Imagine that I take a course online........

That course are videos and costs $ 3000 (XXXXCompany) and now I upload it on the decent platform at a price of 600 dollars or less (the same course) would be the same content at half the price or less...

Was not it killing the real author?

My question is easy ... how do they pretend to control that?

My idea is to sell on the platform content that is not mine ..

Can I do that ??

I imagine that I can do it but we will not only be killing the intermediaries...... too the true authors of contents

It's fucking crazy. I just hope they give solution to these things because it will become the bernard's pussy (spanish expression)
I would like to read a response from the decent company!

I also hope that the contents can be paid in any currency (dollars, euros, yen, bitcoins, DCT, altcoin .......)

My forecast for 5 years 1 DCT =15-25$

I have faith in the company and I hope they make things right
Regards

[marilyngroom]

Imagine that I take a course online........

That course are videos and costs $ 3000 (XXXXCompany) and now I upload it on the decent platform at a price of 600 dollars or less (the same course) would be the same content at half the price or less...

Was not it killing the real author?

My question is easy ... how do they pretend to control that?

My idea is to sell on the platform content that is not mine ..

Can I do that ??

I imagine that I can do it but we will not only be killing the intermediaries...... too the true authors of contents

It's fucking crazy. I just hope they give solution to these things because it will become the bernard's pussy (spanish expression)
I would like to read a response from the decent company!

I have faith in the company and I hope they make things right
Regards

Are people not doing that for free anyway? I'm guessing that the ones who are going to pay will pay the company, and those who are going to pirate are in no way going to pay $600 when looking for a free version. They'll just look for a torrent.

[marilyngroom]

Hey DECENT and Team, you keep ignoring my PMs but I want to get an answer.
You rubbed me of my well deserved Signature campaign bounty just for two days after you changed the rules without making sure everybody knows and prolonged it.
The least you can do is answer and give reasonable reasons for that.
Look on the history of the thread see how involved I was, I even freake'n translated the OP, and you never even considered that.

I tried my best not to spam this thread but your'e over looking my questions so deal with it and give me my answers

How exactly were you robbed? Did you remove your signature campaign before they checked it?

Apparently a day before, although I saw their post only after. eventually I wore the signature for couple of days further than the length of the ICO but a day or two before they checked.
I've been here from day one, doesn't feel right to forfeit the entire bounty for a single day out of merely 60...

same for me , i removed it for couple of days and put it back after i understood that i have to keep it longer , i keep it till now but now i am done with decent and sell all ico coins as soon as possible , anyway good luck for you all with decent

Don't dump just for being angry with the team. It will just get you more angry when the price goes up.

[Michael79]

Imagine that I take a course online........

That course are videos and costs $ 3000 (XXXXCompany) and now I upload it on the decent platform at a price of 600 dollars or less (the same course) would be the same content at half the price or less...

Was not it killing the real author?

My question is easy ... how do they pretend to control that?

My idea is to sell on the platform content that is not mine ..

Can I do that ??

I imagine that I can do it but we will not only be killing the intermediaries...... too the true authors of contents

It's fucking crazy. I just hope they give solution to these things because it will become the bernard's pussy (spanish expression)
I would like to read a response from the decent company!

I have faith in the company and I hope they make things right
Regards

Are people not doing that for free anyway? I'm guessing that the ones who are going to pay will pay the company, and those who are going to pirate are in no way going to pay $600 when looking for a free version. They'll just look for a torrent.

If the content is not found for free in bittorrent and they find it on the decent platform for half the price they will prefer to pay half that not 3000.

This is like matrix .... one is made at the beginning many questions and we will have to wait for the answers because honestly I do not know how they are going to do it.
we will wait

[BTCMINER6579]

I am here just to watch 

[BTCMINER6579]

When can we claim bounties for
1) facebook like
2) twitter
3) newsletter

When will decent be officialy launched ?

[YNWA2806]

Hey DECENT and Team, you keep ignoring my PMs but I want to get an answer.
You rubbed me of my well deserved Signature campaign bounty just for two days after you changed the rules without making sure everybody knows and prolonged it.
The least you can do is answer and give reasonable reasons for that.
Look on the history of the thread see how involved I was, I even freake'n translated the OP, and you never even considered that.

I tried my best not to spam this thread but your'e over looking my questions so deal with it and give me my answers

How exactly were you robbed? Did you remove your signature campaign before they checked it?

Apparently a day before, although I saw their post only after. eventually I wore the signature for couple of days further than the length of the ICO but a day or two before they checked.
I've been here from day one, doesn't feel right to forfeit the entire bounty for a single day out of merely 60...

same for me , i removed it for couple of days and put it back after i understood that i have to keep it longer , i keep it till now but now i am done with decent and sell all ico coins as soon as possible , anyway good luck for you all with decent

This is so frustrating, this whole thing was not properly noticed at any point....I advice you not to sell as quick as possible as I see a bright future for this project..even though its team is a beat close minded....

[Michael79]

When can we claim bounties for
1) facebook like
2) twitter
3) newsletter

When will decent be officialy launched ?

The launch will be between January and June 2017. The rewards will be distributed little by little. Will have to be aware of the news by the company. I think the project is worth waiting for.

We should all support the long term and expect to sell our tokens DCT as a minimum until the end of the final roadmap of year 19.

[yhlsqj]

When can we claim bounties for
1) facebook like
2) twitter
3) newsletter

When will decent be officialy launched ?

You can check few pages back, I remmeber dev said they would launch the main net next year, should be quarter 1 of 2017, cureent bounty will be paid after the main net launches, so there are some months we need to wait, stay tuned.

[progmax]

Russian (Author: davide72)


Why is not the topic is available?

What is going on?

[memii]

Decent is project for real life once mainnet will get launched than it will change the people's lives. Price will go more high more than our expectation. I've strong believe in the team they will deliver their promises.