Requesting-Vod be prevented deleting posts Self Modded thread/Removed from DT

[Sarthak]

 I didn't find a bug at crypto-games, someone else did; I was merely acting as an "escrow" for the bug.
  (that means I was an independent third party, in case you're unclear on that point)

Wasn't that person asking for 1BTC for himself and .5BTC for you for a separate bug? If that is the case, I don't think that would make you very neutral.

 

What wrong did doog do when someone else asked for 1.5BTC bounty from DogecoinMachine and the one who found the bug just asked by himself that 0.5BTC out of that 1.5 will be given to doog because he helped verify the bug. And whats wrong if doog put a red trust on someone who lied(or didn't fulfill his part of the deal) and again changed it to neutral after he(DogecoinMachine) completed his part of the deal? You're suspecting that he is selling trust just because he acted as a neutral third party and put negative trust on a liar and again changed it to neutral when he(the liar) started being honest?

[jonald_fyookball]

QS twisting facts and logic again?  nahhhhh, can't be.

[cakir]

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http://explorer.chain.com/transactions/7547d946f9f622692d845bec3c220cbf323ee3750dd21632fce90ec03ba431ed

Hi TradeFortress I would like to ask you something important.
When I examined this transaction, I've seen that You've used 3 different addresses to pay 20 BTC.
1: https://blockchain.info/address/1JNZgYxgsrUnwoCGZqSKGqpbUoxewyCxsn
2: https://blockchain.info/address/15bLpPJbAz1ahgFSLMBLCVuoM1y9QYHHuy
3: https://blockchain.info/address/1MDiAC7C91waTzTtkg8UpKqcPej58rn77h

Let's look at the 1st address closer. It got bitcoins from this address: https://blockchain.info/address/12QTQnVtCQpFfaKnXwG1cfDmzJeJbj18zA

And this addresses bitcoins come from "scammer (told it was hacked) hashie.co". "Which are hot wallets of the hashie.co"
Weren't those bitcoins stollen by hackers?

Can you explain this please?

Edit (addition):
Hashie.co scam was hacked in 24 December 2014; https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2qods9/hashieco_was_hacked_or_was_a_scam_all_along/
This address: 12QTQnVtCQpFfaKnXwG1cfDmzJeJbj18zA got bitcoins from hot wallet on the date of 2015-01-26 11:19:12  (Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 26644 bytes)
https://blockchain.info/tx/085efd1c29b57d8b6f0cd063187c77f326777e84b8a6ddcb0915847b7917635e

Then it's used to send bitcoins to TradeFortress...
Isn't that interesting?

[poeEDgar]

Very interesting indeed. Good find. Checks out. Haven't looked into the other addresses.

20 BTC from "TF" to "Quickseller" --> https://blockchain.info/tx/7547d946f9f622692d845bec3c220cbf323ee3750dd21632fce90ec03ba431ed
https://blockchain.info/address/1JNZgYxgsrUnwoCGZqSKGqpbUoxewyCxsn --> https://blockchain.info/address/12QTQnVtCQpFfaKnXwG1cfDmzJeJbj18zA --> https://blockchain.info/address/1CgD88HMPcBSQ3C5ykLEWFiCJpJ1jryBFg (HASHIE ADDRESS) / https://blockchain.info/address/1FGzuz2E6u1kh4h9DcjR4Z2rfJSoGfiiC3 (HASHIE ADDRESS)

http://justpaste.it/hashie













Never mind who is really behind the TF forum account for the moment. Quickseller -- how are you gonna rationalize holding onto these coins?

Funny, I always thought that Quickseller = TF was a more plausible explanation than TF blindly sending Quickseller 20 BTC to carry out a blatantly frivolous lawsuit. Wouldn't that be interesting?

If so, that would be a 100% legit reason to DOX Quickseller.

[Quickseller]

I didn't sell trust.

Except when you want a scammer to show as being trusted and give them a reputation loan.

You keep bringing up the same issues over and over.

You were claiming that tsp couldn't be trusted with any amount of money. I tested this theory. It turned out he could be trusted with 1 BTC and I left trust reflecting that.

Well I am just bringing up the fact that you have given positive trust to a number of scammers in the past.

Remind me how many million dollars were stolen after others relied on your positive trust ratings and endorsements?

I didn't sell anything. That would imply that I somehow received payment. I didn't.

Is he still a frequent customer/user of your site? If he is betting then on a NPV basis you are receiving a portion of every bet he makes. If he chats with others in your chat room then your other customers have a way to get automated answers about things on Wikipedia

I am just pointing out problems with your trust and trust list.

Not very effectively, but thanks for trying. More people should be held accountable for the trust feedback they leave.

I disagree. At least with the first part.

[dooglus]

What wrong did doog do when someone else asked for 1.5BTC bounty from DogecoinMachine and the one who found the bug just asked by himself that 0.5BTC out of that 1.5 will be given to doog because he helped verify the bug.

I don't think I was paid anything at all, nor did I ask to be.

And whats wrong if doog put a red trust on someone who lied(or didn't fulfill his part of the deal) and again changed it to neutral after he(DogecoinMachine) completed his part of the deal? You're suspecting that he is selling trust just because he acted as a neutral third party and put negative trust on a liar and again changed it to neutral when he(the liar) started being honest?

I don't think I gave them any kind of trust feedback did I? The whole thing was kind of a mess from start to finish. The site operator we were talking to was embarrassingly clueless and refused to even accept that there was a problem with his site despite being spoon-fed the information he needed to verify it. The negotiation on a bug bounty never ended in agreement and a third party independently discovered and published the bug anyway.

[tmfp]

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http://explorer.chain.com/transactions/7547d946f9f622692d845bec3c220cbf323ee3750dd21632fce90ec03ba431ed

Hi TradeFortress I would like to ask you something important.
When I examined this transaction, I've seen that You've used 3 different addresses to pay 20 BTC.
1: https://blockchain.info/address/1JNZgYxgsrUnwoCGZqSKGqpbUoxewyCxsn
2: https://blockchain.info/address/15bLpPJbAz1ahgFSLMBLCVuoM1y9QYHHuy
3: https://blockchain.info/address/1MDiAC7C91waTzTtkg8UpKqcPej58rn77h

Let's look at the 1st address closer. It got bitcoins from this address: https://blockchain.info/address/12QTQnVtCQpFfaKnXwG1cfDmzJeJbj18zA

And this addresses bitcoins come from "scammer (told it was hacked) hashie.co". "Which are hot wallets of the hashie.co"
Weren't those bitcoins stollen by hackers?

Can you explain this please?

Edit (addition):
Hashie.co scam was hacked in 24 December 2014; https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2qods9/hashieco_was_hacked_or_was_a_scam_all_along/
This address: 12QTQnVtCQpFfaKnXwG1cfDmzJeJbj18zA got bitcoins from hot wallet on the date of 2015-01-26 11:19:12  (Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 26644 bytes)
https://blockchain.info/tx/085efd1c29b57d8b6f0cd063187c77f326777e84b8a6ddcb0915847b7917635e

Then it's used to send bitcoins to TradeFortress...
Isn't that interesting?

Very interesting indeed. Good find. Checks out. Haven't looked into the other addresses.

20 BTC from "TF" to "Quickseller" --> https://blockchain.info/tx/7547d946f9f622692d845bec3c220cbf323ee3750dd21632fce90ec03ba431ed
https://blockchain.info/address/1JNZgYxgsrUnwoCGZqSKGqpbUoxewyCxsn --> https://blockchain.info/address/12QTQnVtCQpFfaKnXwG1cfDmzJeJbj18zA --> https://blockchain.info/address/1CgD88HMPcBSQ3C5ykLEWFiCJpJ1jryBFg (HASHIE ADDRESS) / https://blockchain.info/address/1FGzuz2E6u1kh4h9DcjR4Z2rfJSoGfiiC3 (HASHIE ADDRESS)

http://justpaste.it/hashie













Never mind who is really behind the TF forum account for the moment. Quickseller -- how are you gonna rationalize holding onto these coins?

Funny, I always thought that Quickseller = TF was a more plausible explanation than TF blindly sending Quickseller 20 BTC to carry out a blatantly frivolous lawsuit. Wouldn't that be interesting?

If so, that would be a 100% legit reason to DOX Quickseller.

I have been nonplussed by the free pass that TradeFortress/Hashie have been given here, by supposed backbones of this community.
The answer is, of course, that he/she/it knows where skeletons are buried.

[dooglus]

Remind me how many million dollars were stolen after others relied on your positive trust ratings and endorsements?

I don't know.

I did leave positive feedback for dicebitco.in after I had successfully withdrawn over 100 BTC from my balance there.

They later were caught cheating and so I left them negative trust.

I don't think anyone can be expected to be able to predict which sites will turn out to be scams with 100% accuracy. When I left my positive feedback there was no evidence that they would end up scamming.

You'll notice I've left very few positive feedbacks since that mistake, with moneypot (now bustabit) being the only site I've since left positive feedback for.

[dooglus]

I didn't sell anything. That would imply that I somehow received payment. I didn't.

Is he still a frequent customer/user of your site? If he is betting then on a NPV basis you are receiving a portion of every bet he makes. If he chats with others in your chat room then your other customers have a way to get automated answers about things on Wikipedia

He has never bet:

Code:

name: tsp
wagered: 0
bets: 0
balance: 0
profit: 0
losses: 0
wins: 0

and I'm unaware of him running any bots on the site. Good joke though. You're quite a funny man.

[worhiper_-_]

tspacepilot locked the topics he made about the matter as from what it seems he now considers that it's taken the right turn. I'd expect QS to pretentiously call this out as if it was a crime.

[tspacepilot]

tspacepilot locked the topics he made about the matter as from what it seems he now considers that it's taken the right turn. I'd expect QS to pretentiously call this out as if it was a crime.

That thread was created in order to call attention to QS' abuses.  I'd say that goal has been more than acheived so why provide him a platform to continue trolling me on.  Of course he's welcome to make his own "TSP is Scammer" thread and I'm sure that will get a lot of attention.

In any case, this thread was supposed to be about QS' accusations of Vod.  It seems that as that ran out of steam, to keep attention from swinging back to himself, now he's trying to throw shit at dooglus.  I wonder who's next?  I'm not on default trust so I'm not really worth it, let's see who QS slings his outlandish speculation at next!

[dooglus]

In any case, this thread was supposed to be about QS' accusations of Vod.  It seems that as that ran out of steam, to keep attention from swinging back to himself, now he's trying to throw shit at dooglus.  I wonder who's next?  I'm not on default trust so I'm not really worth it, let's see who QS slings his outlandish speculation at next!

It was suggested in the Just-Dice chat when a few QS-alike sockpuppets showed up that ignoring them would be the best approach; starve them of the attention they so desperately crave.

[worhiper_-_]

tspacepilot locked the topics he made about the matter as from what it seems he now considers that it's taken the right turn.

Completely agree with that statement. Those threads were a huge circle jerk caused by Quickseller pointing baseless accusations at people and defending himself against all like a madman. Not only did you help the forum receive less spam by locking those topics, but you're also indirectly helping Quickseller drift away from absurd narcissism. I really hope that he's only digging himself a bottomless pit.

[xetsr]

if Vod doxed the wrong person, then what? he gets to walk away clean from all this after potentially ruining some other guy's life? do you guys not think this is worse then what QS did to tsp?

People wanted QS off DT before they found out he was escrowing for himself. Vod should be removed if he doxed the wrong person.

[Bobsurplus]

Guysssss......


I wanna red tag people...

Who's gonna add me to their default trust list..

I aint no btc scammer, I been here a while and have a good grasp of the inner workings of this forum and its politics.

So....

Who's gonna be a nice fellow and add me on the list?

[tspacepilot]

tspacepilot locked the topics he made about the matter as from what it seems he now considers that it's taken the right turn.

Actually, you said that.  I try not to talk about myself in third person [insert quickseller sockpuppet joke here ]

Completely agree with that statement. Those threads were a huge circle jerk caused by Quickseller pointing baseless accusations at people and defending himself against all like a madman. Not only did you help the forum receive less spam by locking those topics, but you're also indirectly helping Quickseller drift away from absurd narcissism. I really hope that he's only digging himself a bottomless pit.

I take your point.  I'm not sure if your optimism about QS' response is well-founded.  But time will tell.

[jonald_fyookball]

Guysssss......


I wanna red tag people...

Who's gonna add me to their default trust list..

I aint no btc scammer, I been here a while and have a good grasp of the inner workings of this forum and its politics.

So....

Who's gonna be a nice fellow and add me on the list?

[worhiper_-_]

Forgot to ad a vital word to my latest sentence but you got the idea already.

I really hope that realises he's only digging himself a bottomless pit.

[Quickseller]

if Vod doxed the wrong person, then what? he gets to walk away clean from all this after potentially ruining some other guy's life? do you guys not think this is worse then what QS did to tsp?

People wanted QS off DT before they found out he was escrowing for himself. Vod should be removed if he doxed the wrong person.

He did dox the wrong person. This is none of dooglus's concern.

[Bobsurplus]

Guysssss......


I wanna red tag people...

Who's gonna add me to their default trust list..

I aint no btc scammer, I been here a while and have a good grasp of the inner workings of this forum and its politics.

So....

Who's gonna be a nice fellow and add me on the list?

I agree but it's time to add me. I got lots of red tagging to do to trolls.