New Lending Platform BitLend.io

[boki15]

Now I ask myself, what is the source of the guy who asked about it on their forum.

[Paul Revere]

So, let me get this straight: The guy organizing the group lawsuit against GAW is in business with some of the central people who were part of the GAW/Paycoin scam, and this is but one of several creepily Garza like operations he has sprouting to life.

[boki15]

Where did you get this picture, its great 

[Phildo]

Nobody, why do you think someone cares about him

If someone of GAW is involved then it's already a bad sign. It looks like there are many who try them out and some information could help others to decide and get own impression, like involvement of ex. GAW employee, I do not care if it is a joe or someone else from gaws scam team. I think it is the same reason why you probably posted your comment, if nobody cares, why do you care?

Oh, mordica being involved means stay away, but you should have been staying away after finding the first gawtard involved. I'm good someone dug deep enough to find someone that deeply involved, but people need to wake up and shun all these guys.

[boki15]

Nobody, why do you think someone cares about him

If someone of GAW is involved then it's already a bad sign. It looks like there are many who try them out and some information could help others to decide and get own impression, like involvement of ex. GAW employee, I do not care if it is a joe or someone else from gaws scam team. I think it is the same reason why you probably posted your comment, if nobody cares, why do you care?

Oh, mordica being involved means stay away, but you should have been staying away after finding the first gawtard involved. I'm good someone dug deep enough to find someone that deeply involved, but people need to wake up and shun all these guys.

Regarding GAW, I think, who is still sleeping, he will not get awake, no matter what you do, ganza got reward for scammer of 2014, I do not think we need more comments on it to waste each others time, or?

[boki15]

But to bring some joke. GAW is legit company, it exists and has nothing to do with ganza, they are even good company

[suchmoon]

So, let me get this straight: The guy organizing the group lawsuit against GAW is in business with some of the central people who were part of the GAW/Paycoin scam, and this is but one of several creepily Garza like operations he has sprouting to life.

https://i.imgur.com/NwKXNav.gif

As far as I know Allen he's nothing like Garza and he was one of the first major Kool-Aid drinkers to slam the door on the shitshow - I think he said something like "you insult our intelligence" in response to one of Garza's harebrained schemes (Honors program? I don't recall) while everyone was still clapping and cheering.

Anyway. Involvement of Mordica et al is quite concerning. Someone who was clearly part of the abysmal hashrate rentals pretending to be GAW's "hosting" in early 2014 and then all later shenanigans (e.g. a data center built in October to "host" hashlets sold in August) is a bad hire for a trust-based business like a lending site.

[Paul Revere]

So, let me get this straight: The guy organizing the group lawsuit against GAW is in business with some of the central people who were part of the GAW/Paycoin scam, and this is but one of several creepily Garza like operations he has sprouting to life.

https://i.imgur.com/NwKXNav.gif

As far as I know Allen he's nothing like Garza and he was one of the first major Kool-Aid drinkers to slam the door on the shitshow - I think he said something like "you insult our intelligence" in response to one of Garza's harebrained schemes (Honors program? I don't recall) while everyone was still clapping and cheering.

Anyway. Involvement of Mordica et al is quite concerning. Someone who was clearly part of the abysmal hashrate rentals pretending to be GAW's "hosting" in early 2014 and then all later shenanigans (e.g. a data center built in October to "host" hashlets sold in August) is a bad hire for a trust-based business like a lending site.

The irony level involved in having the guy in charge of suing GAW being in business with some of the people who are responsible for (supposedly? ) ripping him off is so insanely high I can cut a piece of iron out of the air with my finger and grind it into an axe. And here I was a couple days ago joking on Kapetan organizing a Scrypt CC lawsuit while he is still pimping that scam! If someone had a suspicious nature, he might wonder just how vigorously Allen is having that suit pursued. How is that going, by the way?

[suchmoon]

So, let me get this straight: The guy organizing the group lawsuit against GAW is in business with some of the central people who were part of the GAW/Paycoin scam, and this is but one of several creepily Garza like operations he has sprouting to life.

https://i.imgur.com/NwKXNav.gif

As far as I know Allen he's nothing like Garza and he was one of the first major Kool-Aid drinkers to slam the door on the shitshow - I think he said something like "you insult our intelligence" in response to one of Garza's harebrained schemes (Honors program? I don't recall) while everyone was still clapping and cheering.

Anyway. Involvement of Mordica et al is quite concerning. Someone who was clearly part of the abysmal hashrate rentals pretending to be GAW's "hosting" in early 2014 and then all later shenanigans (e.g. a data center built in October to "host" hashlets sold in August) is a bad hire for a trust-based business like a lending site.

The irony level involved in having the guy in charge of suing GAW being in business with some of the people who are responsible for (supposedly? ) ripping him off is so insanely high I can cut a piece of iron out of the air with my finger and grind it into an axe. And here I was a couple days ago joking on Kapetan organizing a Scrypt CC lawsuit while he is still pimping that scam! If someone had a suspicious nature, he might wonder just how vigorously Allen is having that suit pursued. How is that going, by the way?

I don't know the details or the current status but I think the lawsuit is focusing on GAW's and Garza's personal assets. So is it ironic - probably; a conflict of interest - probably not, if you trust that jmordica doesn't have a few thousand BTC stashed somewhere . I don't so I wouldn't be putting my retirement savings into BitLend just yet.

[boki15]

I am really patient in waiting for an official response regarding this question, Alan should do it, as the fact that he is probably the last person to point finger to and there could be an reasonable explanation.

Myself, I do not mind if alan makes something good of this service, he is good guy helping others, not many organise a lawsuit, even if his investemnt is involved, I am sure that there is no intention on his side to scam or be involved in any way with gawtards.

[Paul Revere]

So, basically, thus far Allen has managed to get ~400 GAW customers to hitch their star to his wagon, and now, many months later ,he has managed to find a lawyer who will take their money and that's it? And no one is even suspicious about him working with the same crooks who supposedly ripped him off? Mind boggling, but we are dealing with an extremely gullible and non-questioning bunch of people for the most part in the GAW victims camp.

[suchmoon]

I am really patient in waiting for an official response regarding this question, Alan should do it, as the fact that he is probably the last person to point finger to and there could be an reasonable explanation.

Myself, I do not mind if alan makes something good of this service, he is good guy helping others, not many organise a lawsuit, even if his investemnt is involved, I am sure that there is no intention on his side to scam or be involved in any way with gawtards.

It's a long post so I won't quote it:

https://forum.gethashing.com/t/welcome-to-bitlend/5341/22

[Phildo]

I am really patient in waiting for an official response regarding this question, Alan should do it, as the fact that he is probably the last person to point finger to and there could be an reasonable explanation.

Myself, I do not mind if alan makes something good of this service, he is good guy helping others, not many organise a lawsuit, even if his investemnt is involved, I am sure that there is no intention on his side to scam or be involved in any way with gawtards.

It's a long post so I won't quote it:

https://forum.gethashing.com/t/welcome-to-bitlend/5341/22

what a crock of shit.

He "ran" a data center that didn't pay their electric bills or deliver coins to the customers. He was in prime position to tell everyone that "hashlets" didn't exist and that they didn't have the amount they sold.

If Joe couldn't figure out it was a scam he's too stupid to do anything else. If allen can't realize that so is he.

[Paul Revere]

I am really patient in waiting for an official response regarding this question, Alan should do it, as the fact that he is probably the last person to point finger to and there could be an reasonable explanation.

Myself, I do not mind if alan makes something good of this service, he is good guy helping others, not many organise a lawsuit, even if his investemnt is involved, I am sure that there is no intention on his side to scam or be involved in any way with gawtards.

It's a long post so I won't quote it:

https://forum.gethashing.com/t/welcome-to-bitlend/5341/22

So, Allen says that having the guy who was in charge of both the technical aspects of the Hashlet scam Ponzi implementation, and then in implementing the entire Paycoin scam from the tech side is a great guy and should be trusted? Un-friggenbelievable. And that after he tried to hide the rat hiding in his cellar. Hold on to your hats, folks, the winds of scam is a blowing. The scam barometer is on the rise, and soon, the scam pressure will blow out your eardrums.

P.S: Don't forget that Allen is also aware of Joe trying (maybe succeeding- we don't know) to blackmail Garza during their falling out. And Allen thinks he is someone TRUSTWORTHY? As in trust this shithead with your personal and FINANCIAL INFORMATION trustworthy? Insane.

[boki15]

Who is innocent? If this is part of lawsuit, I think this information can be passed over.

Joe, Rick, Amanda (especially her) and all others are guilty. Joe did very well know what is going on, there is a phone recorded where even a child would understand that something is wrong. He worked with feds, thats maybe the only reason of his "innocence".

[Paul Revere]

I am thinking any lawyer with a pulse could make some serious hay with the fact that the guy suing GAW is also working closely with the very people he is saying ripped him off. How bad could they be if he is actually in business with them now? The whole idea is so fucking preposterous I can't quite wrap my head around it yet.

[Phildo]

I am thinking any lawyer with a pulse could make some serious hay with the fact that the guy suing GAW is also working closely with the very people he is saying ripped him off. How bad could they be if he is actually in business with them now? The whole idea is so fucking preposterous I can't quite wrap my head around it yet.

Just what this needs, more lawyers.

I'm actually impressed that a new way to throw good money after bad came up after the gawsuit.

[Paul Revere]

I am thinking any lawyer with a pulse could make some serious hay with the fact that the guy suing GAW is also working closely with the very people he is saying ripped him off. How bad could they be if he is actually in business with them now? The whole idea is so fucking preposterous I can't quite wrap my head around it yet.

Just what this needs, more lawyers.

I'm actually impressed that a new way to throw good money after bad came up after the gawsuit.

The lawyers are already involved, it is just a matter of when and where they will say what, now. If I was involved in this lawsuit I would be wondering about Allen's motives. Is he trying to intentionally steer the lawsuit where it will fail? I would be suspicious as hell at this point, but the flock of turkeys in the GAWsuit are not likely to get their feathers ruffled over something trivial like the guy heading their lawsuit openly being in cahoots with the very same people who ripped them off. Nothing suspicious there at all. 

[cryptonit]

What is this about?


https://paycointalk.org/topic/592/bitlend-io-new-btc-lending-platform/11

Is this true? How many dirtbag Paycoin/GAW scammers are hiding in this new "business"?

I am just interrested, why does someone say Joe is involved, where does this info come from? If he is involved then it's really not nice not informing about it.

Alan should have presented this project here, not jason. I do not think he wanted to pretend he is a customer, I think he did not want to sound as developer, but why did he present it? Especially because their names are published on their homepage. I do not get a feeling that they hide something, except if it's true about joe.

Even Mr. Nelson would be better as he seems to work for support.

As far as I know, launch was success and that means soon we will see how it really works.

[Paul Revere]

@ cryptonit: So, you want to believe that someone who intentionally chooses to deceive customers by lying to them (us) to instill false confidence in this operation means that he actually did not choose to do that. And, when cornered and nailed down in this deception, he proudly announces:

Yes i have been told i should come clean and let other customer include you guys find out for your self's if the system is what it is. And that is why i invite you to sign up and give it a shot. The only way to Redemption is to show what we can do.

So, "He was told he should come clean". Not "I suddenly realized that I was engaging in something morally deplorable (and possibly illegal) and have corrected my mistake. My sincere apologies to all of you who have read my intentional lies that I told in an effort to gain your Confidence. I see the error in my actions, take full responsibility for them, and will make sure that I never waver from the straight and narrow EVER again."

Can you see the difference between these two totally opposite actions? Probably not, or you would not have tried to defend the actions of this admitted liar in the first place.

Jason makes it perfectly clear that he simply does not understand that lying to people is WRONG. His only concern is that he is getting called out for lying and making the operation look like the shady bunch of creeps that it is, not that there is anything wrong with deceiving people so that they will feel comfortable handing over their entire lot of personal and financial information to this fucking liar. And then Allen announces (after being pushed into a corner- not of his own volition) that there are even MORE crooks from GAW working for this operation, and that he has been concealing this fact. These people are making it perfectly clear that they have no moral compass, and that they are comfortable in lying to me, you, EVERYBODY, just as long as it suits their purposes. This is NOT what I consider to be "trustworthy" actions in any way, shape, or form. These are the actions of amoral , self-serving scamdogs, and all of this long winded oration of excuses for these actions on a private forum controlled by Allen is not going to change these simple facts.

Hey Allen: I think you should hire Carlos Garza, he is out of work too. All that brazen criminal activity , like helping to Con a small fortune from you (supposedly) is ALL behind him now. I think you should hire that stinking liar to be your official spokesman. Replace this half-assed liar Jason with a real stone cold pro LIAR. After all, Carlos is just a scared little boy, cut him a break, huh? Why the fuck not? According to you, these scam leopards have changed their spots and are all a bunch of totally trustworthy guys now. Hell, I think you should go all the fucking way and hire Homero Joshua Garza as an adviser just to complete the whole picture.

P.S: I recall a recent scammer who created his own forum so he could control the narrative to his victims and block out unwanted criticism of his operation. His name was Homero Joshua Garza, and now Allen (one of the victims of Homero's scams) is following the exact same scam playbook. It is truly shocking to see this happening.

Cup of nice steaming hot IRONY anyone?