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December 07, 2015, 11:41:05 AM

For my small setup, I open the windows and allow the cold are to come into the basement if the miners get 'heated'

For OC'ing this has really helped out this winter



I like your setup! Firstly, you don't have fire-hazardous things around, like some other home-made setups I've seen. Secondly, your setup is inside so no worries about rain/snow and such. And also I like that the shelf you put your miners on has holes in it, which is better than just plain shelf IMO for cooling.

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December 07, 2015, 12:25:25 PM

For my small setup, I open the windows and allow the cold are to come into the basement if the miners get 'heated'

For OC'ing this has really helped out this winter



I like your setup! Firstly, you don't have fire-hazardous things around, like some other home-made setups I've seen. Secondly, your setup is inside so no worries about rain/snow and such. And also I like that the shelf you put your miners on has holes in it, which is better than just plain shelf IMO for cooling.

Thanks! When I saw the 'Miner Pr0n' post I had to clean it up a bit. Didn't look like that before lol.

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January 10, 2016, 12:06:25 PM

If the temperature is -20 in your area, why not put the miner in home to get some heating out of the miner?
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January 10, 2016, 03:45:54 PM

If the temperature is -20 in your area, why not put the miner in home to get some heating out of the miner?

Yeah! That's a good idea, you can save on electricity bills then. Smiley

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January 10, 2016, 08:53:21 PM

For my small setup, I open the windows and allow the cold are to come into the basement if the miners get 'heated'

For OC'ing this has really helped out this winter


Nice setup you have going there, I'd like to have something similar to this.
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January 10, 2016, 09:24:33 PM

I actually do this often. Just be sure to put them in milk crates or somthing
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January 10, 2016, 10:25:14 PM

If the temperature is -20 in your area, why not put the miner in home to get some heating out of the miner?

The amount of heat output is not enough to heat an ENTIRE house.

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January 14, 2016, 12:38:49 PM

If the temperature is -20 in your area, why not put the miner in home to get some heating out of the miner?

The amount of heat output is not enough to heat an ENTIRE house.

That really depends on many things:

1. The size of the house

2. How many miners you have

3. The temperature you want in the house

For example I'm okay with around +15C in my room so even one miner would be enough to make me feel comfortable. Of course I live in a flat surrounded by another flats which are warm.... so maybe tha's why ... Yep, for the entire single house one miner is definitely not enough.

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January 14, 2016, 02:53:35 PM

If the temperature is -20 in your area, why not put the miner in home to get some heating out of the miner?

The amount of heat output is not enough to heat an ENTIRE house.

That really depends on many things:

1. The size of the house

2. How many miners you have

3. The temperature you want in the house

For example I'm okay with around +15C in my room so even one miner would be enough to make me feel comfortable. Of course I live in a flat surrounded by another flats which are warm.... so maybe tha's why ... Yep, for the entire single house one miner is definitely not enough.

You're seriously comfortable at 15C inside? Tongue Are you wearing wool? ^^
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January 15, 2016, 07:37:09 AM

Oh for sure, they do these kinds of things and they can be done but they are in situations where they're basically using commodity hardware (for them) and have environments where the failure of a machine, rack, row, or even in extreme cases entire data centers doesn't translate to lost service to customers. They can afford to be pioneers and push the envelopes. Most of us simply don't have this type of ability in our houses. They save money on power / cooling equipment and just accept a potentially higher MTBF of server equipment. I worked at a "big company's" data center in Seattle for a while where they had a tent outside that was basically protecting servers from the rain. Intel did similar things. These types of endeavors are what have helped open up the TC 9.9 operating window. It used to be a max of 68F back in 2008 (iirc) but it has since been raised to 80.6F for the cold aisle (inlet) and even in some classes of machines as high as 104F
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January 15, 2016, 03:34:24 PM

If the temperature is -20 in your area, why not put the miner in home to get some heating out of the miner?

The amount of heat output is not enough to heat an ENTIRE house.

That really depends on many things:

1. The size of the house

2. How many miners you have

3. The temperature you want in the house

For example I'm okay with around +15C in my room so even one miner would be enough to make me feel comfortable. Of course I live in a flat surrounded by another flats which are warm.... so maybe tha's why ... Yep, for the entire single house one miner is definitely not enough.

You're seriously comfortable at 15C inside? Tongue Are you wearing wool? ^^

This is a bit off topic, but yes, of course I'm wearing wool: wool sweater and wool socks. And when I sit behind the computer more than an hour I use a wool blanket to cover my legs. The big advantages of the fresh air I have in the room are: no headaches, no fatigue. You should try it yourself.

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March 24, 2016, 06:16:24 AM

If the temperature is -20 in your area, why not put the miner in home to get some heating out of the miner?

The amount of heat output is not enough to heat an ENTIRE house.

That really depends on many things:

1. The size of the house

2. How many miners you have

3. The temperature you want in the house

For example I'm okay with around +15C in my room so even one miner would be enough to make me feel comfortable. Of course I live in a flat surrounded by another flats which are warm.... so maybe tha's why ... Yep, for the entire single house one miner is definitely not enough.

You're seriously comfortable at 15C inside? Tongue Are you wearing wool? ^^

This is a bit off topic, but yes, of course I'm wearing wool: wool sweater and wool socks. And when I sit behind the computer more than an hour I use a wool blanket to cover my legs. The big advantages of the fresh air I have in the room are: no headaches, no fatigue. You should try it yourself.

i was thinking heating with miners is not healthy, as the electronics are releasing toxic materials into the air.

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April 17, 2016, 07:14:03 PM


i was thinking heating with miners is not healthy, as the electronics are releasing toxic materials into the air.


As long as the temperature of the PCB is less than 300 degree, there is no problem about toxic materials.
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April 18, 2016, 04:29:10 AM


i was thinking heating with miners is not healthy, as the electronics are releasing toxic materials into the air.


As long as the temperature of the PCB is less than 300 degree, there is no problem about toxic materials.

There has been a lot of debate about this, even a desktop PC will release *some* voc's during it's lifetime. On the plus side it's been agreed that a 1500M household air filter will negate any potential exposure.

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April 18, 2016, 09:22:55 AM


i was thinking heating with miners is not healthy, as the electronics are releasing toxic materials into the air.


As long as the temperature of the PCB is less than 300 degree, there is no problem about toxic materials.

Actually it's how much time you spend in the room with the miners what's matters. Toxic materials go into the air always when heat is applied but not as much as to poison you right away. Don't spend a lot of time where the miners operate and you shouldn't sleep there that's for sure.

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April 20, 2016, 03:16:15 AM

Just a noobs question: Will bringing the temperature very low improve the hashing rate? Is lower the better?

I tried putting a small piece of dry ice on my Redfury (about 2 years ago) and it didn't improve the hashing speed at all...

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April 20, 2016, 03:19:11 AM

Just a noobs question: Will bringing the temperature very low improve the hashing rate? Is lower the better?

I tried putting a small piece of dry ice on my Redfury (about 2 years ago) and it didn't improve the hashing speed at all...

Almost all miners are built to run at room temperature, cooling below 15C is the realm of overclocking and overvolting Smiley

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April 20, 2016, 05:18:10 AM


What types of damage could the machine takes if they are placed outside in the scandinavian winter.

whit roof . no walls ?

any overclock pocibilities?


Let's say s5 machines sp20s ?

this is the idea.

The Blow will be outside and the intake will be pulled from downside.


PLacing the Miners on the balconi the intake should not bring any moisture from the downside.

Weather is pretty dry were i live.

The little box will be weather prooff so no water or snow will be getting inside.



I leave my laptop by te window wen its cold and it does mine faster

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April 24, 2016, 04:26:05 AM

you need to override fan settings for miners outside.
I used my garage last year.
 (Michigan) I saw alot of failures due to hotspots, keep the fans blowing all the time, it can be set to lower sped, but circulation is important or you're going to end up with potentially damaged equipment.
or just a fwe large fans blowing across the whole farm is another option if you have the room.
but at least tarp to walls to keep moisture out
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April 24, 2016, 05:48:15 AM

Just a noobs question: Will bringing the temperature very low improve the hashing rate? Is lower the better?

I tried putting a small piece of dry ice on my Redfury (about 2 years ago) and it didn't improve the hashing speed at all...

it does not improve the hashing, but it will improve the lifespan of your machine, which is pointless in the asic world, since your machine will be obsolete quickly, unless you have free energy
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