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October 21, 2015, 09:41:59 AM
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Remember that heat is also generated when there is any resistance.  If you have a weld and use different metals (aluminum/copper) you will run into other issues.
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October 22, 2015, 02:50:46 PM
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oh yeah,

pro build is always better .


Well.

Ive had my sp20 and s5s outside, and let me say that they underperform at cold temps.

So skip putting them outside, will just warm the house for winter .

That's a nice decision! I was always thinking what if not just ventilate out the hot air but to use for heating something like a greenhouse or even the house where you live.

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October 24, 2015, 08:42:03 PM
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Remember that heat is also generated when there is any resistance.  If you have a weld and use different metals (aluminum/copper) you will run into other issues.

What are this issues?.

My copper wiring was connect "soldered" to aluminium cables at the end.

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October 24, 2015, 09:17:22 PM
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Put your stuff in a shed, just make sure you monitor humidity and you should be fine.
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October 25, 2015, 12:41:32 AM
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Remember that heat is also generated when there is any resistance.  If you have a weld and use different metals (aluminum/copper) you will run into other issues.

What are this issues?.

My copper wiring was connect "soldered" to aluminium cables at the end.

I love that your brave enough to do this.  It makes it a fun thread to read, and intresting as it's a different setup.

I think issues are shown in picture: http://imgur.com/a/jHCcZ  . That wiring scares the heck out of me personally.
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October 26, 2015, 12:05:32 PM
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Remember that heat is also generated when there is any resistance.  If you have a weld and use different metals (aluminum/copper) you will run into other issues.

What are this issues?.

My copper wiring was connect "soldered" to aluminium cables at the end.

I love that your brave enough to do this.  It makes it a fun thread to read, and intresting as it's a different setup.

I think issues are shown in picture: http://imgur.com/a/jHCcZ  . That wiring scares the heck out of me personally.

Hahaha. yeah well if you don't try you never know
I am not 100% educated on electricity, i have learned new things here in forum.


Contacts from PSU är made of Bronze, connected to the copper wirings, and then to Aluminium cables. so its kinda a nice mix up haha Grin.



I will sort out the wiring. i am able to do it proffesionaly, it's just the that it takes time, and time is money my friend.


I have sold some machines, keeping 1x s5 antminer right now.

Will try to make fund for a s5++ or wait for next gen, i guess that whit price going up machines will go up aswell.



but yeah, i guess some machines could work outside in the winter , gotta find out wich machines.

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October 26, 2015, 02:30:48 PM
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Contacts from PSU är made of Bronze, connected to the copper wirings, and then to Aluminium cables. so its kinda a nice mix up haha Grin.


look.

you need to unplug this death trap NOW.

aluminum and copper wiring DO NOT PLAY WELL TOGETHER.
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October 26, 2015, 03:54:53 PM
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Contacts from PSU är made of Bronze, connected to the copper wirings, and then to Aluminium cables. so its kinda a nice mix up haha Grin.


look.

you need to unplug this death trap NOW.

aluminum and copper wiring DO NOT PLAY WELL TOGETHER.

I agree. Since the aluminum wiring expands when it is warmed and contracts when cool much more then a copper one I suggest OP to use copper wiring only. I know that the copper wiring is more expensive but it is worth the price IMO.

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Contacts from PSU är made of Bronze, connected to the copper wirings, and then to Aluminium cables. so its kinda a nice mix up haha Grin.


look.

you need to unplug this death trap NOW.

aluminum and copper wiring DO NOT PLAY WELL TOGETHER.

I agree. Since the aluminum wiring expands when it is warmed and contracts when cool much more then a copper one I suggest OP to use copper wiring only. I know that the copper wiring is more expensive but it is worth the price IMO.

I think were all in agreement.  But I don't think OP will be doing this from his view on the wiring.   I don't think he truly  understands how scary it is.

I mean you go to sleep... if that thing catches fire in middle of night that would be horrible.  Make sure you have a lot of fire alarms in your house as that wiring truly is unsafe.
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October 27, 2015, 11:00:30 AM
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Rain, Snow, Direct sunlight...

These things can cause damage to your machine.

Beside these, the natural cooling mechanism is a good idea.



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October 27, 2015, 01:08:54 PM
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Contacts from PSU är made of Bronze, connected to the copper wirings, and then to Aluminium cables. so its kinda a nice mix up haha Grin.


look.

you need to unplug this death trap NOW.

aluminum and copper wiring DO NOT PLAY WELL TOGETHER.

I agree. Since the aluminum wiring expands when it is warmed and contracts when cool much more then a copper one I suggest OP to use copper wiring only. I know that the copper wiring is more expensive but it is worth the price IMO.

I think were all in agreement.  But I don't think OP will be doing this from his view on the wiring.   I don't think he truly  understands how scary it is.

I mean you go to sleep... if that thing catches fire in middle of night that would be horrible.  Make sure you have a lot of fire alarms in your house as that wiring truly is unsafe.


Haha yeah i am not using that PSU anymore,, ill be making copper wiring only then.

I got massive ammount of copper wiring Wink so is no problem.


one thing i wonder is, if i connect 4x 12v together, do they add up as 48v or they mainan at 12v ?

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October 27, 2015, 01:49:02 PM
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Contacts from PSU är made of Bronze, connected to the copper wirings, and then to Aluminium cables. so its kinda a nice mix up haha Grin.


look.

you need to unplug this death trap NOW.

aluminum and copper wiring DO NOT PLAY WELL TOGETHER.

I agree. Since the aluminum wiring expands when it is warmed and contracts when cool much more then a copper one I suggest OP to use copper wiring only. I know that the copper wiring is more expensive but it is worth the price IMO.

I think were all in agreement.  But I don't think OP will be doing this from his view on the wiring.   I don't think he truly  understands how scary it is.

I mean you go to sleep... if that thing catches fire in middle of night that would be horrible.  Make sure you have a lot of fire alarms in your house as that wiring truly is unsafe.


Haha yeah i am not using that PSU anymore,, ill be making copper wiring only then.

I got massive ammount of copper wiring Wink so is no problem.


one thing i wonder is, if i connect 4x 12v together, do they add up as 48v or they mainan at 12v ?

That depends on how you connect them, series or parallel. With parallel you'll have same 12v, but with series you'll have 48 v so be careful. Maybe you should consult with an electrician.

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November 03, 2015, 12:40:52 PM
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Haha yeah i am not using that PSU anymore,, ill be making copper wiring only then.

I got massive ammount of copper wiring Wink so is no problem.


one thing i wonder is, if i connect 4x 12v together, do they add up as 48v or they mainan at 12v ?

The miners will usually use +12v input. If you connect 4 +12V in parallel to the miner, the +12V should remain at +12V or slightly less because of the strong current.

Without load, the +12V could be +12.08V, with power output, the +12V could be +11.89V. It depends on the quality of the power supply and the current.
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November 03, 2015, 02:31:02 PM
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No walls? What about rain/snow? Tongue Condensation might be a problem I guess?

This is the one time condensation could be a factor to if your gpu's are working afterwards or not. Haha.
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November 03, 2015, 02:44:38 PM
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Bitcoins machine for mining are used for good earnings in btc..
But, in cold conditions you can face problems.
Thermal stress will reduce your equipment's lifespan and blowing snow will get through your HVAC and destroy the machines.
So make sure it's not exposed in direct cold. That is snowfall (if it happens in your area) or rainfall (definitely not) as it will cause a damage to the machine. So be careful. It is rightly Said that prevention is better than cure.
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November 05, 2015, 06:28:06 AM
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Bitcoins machine for mining are used for good earnings in btc..
But, in cold conditions you can face problems.
Thermal stress will reduce your equipment's lifespan and blowing snow will get through your HVAC and destroy the machines.
So make sure it's not exposed in direct cold. That is snowfall (if it happens in your area) or rainfall (definitely not) as it will cause a damage to the machine. So be careful. It is rightly Said that prevention is better than cure.

I doubt anybody using a miner is worried about the longevity of the miner beyond one year's time so issues like humidity damaging the PCB might not be such as issue.  Snow melting and then getting flung by a 4000 RPM fan and causing a short will put down pretty much any miner in seconds.

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November 06, 2015, 08:36:34 AM
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Bitcoins machine for mining are used for good earnings in btc..
But, in cold conditions you can face problems.
Thermal stress will reduce your equipment's lifespan and blowing snow will get through your HVAC and destroy the machines.
So make sure it's not exposed in direct cold. That is snowfall (if it happens in your area) or rainfall (definitely not) as it will cause a damage to the machine. So be careful. It is rightly Said that prevention is better than cure.

I doubt anybody using a miner is worried about the longevity of the miner beyond one year's time so issues like humidity damaging the PCB might not be such as issue.  Snow melting and then getting flung by a 4000 RPM fan and causing a short will put down pretty much any miner in seconds.

When the miner manufacturer sell the machine they will price it in such as way that the ROI is about 6 month with some difficulty rise assumptions. The machine will be unprofitable after 8 month. So the life span of a machine is less than 8 month depending on your electricity price.
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November 11, 2015, 09:26:19 AM
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Well, if it's a balcony like in the image you drew, you have to be aware of a few factors.

- Ice buildup
- Animals and insects
- Scandinavian cold air might be too cold and damage the hardware

But there are also some pros.

- Natural cooling, no cost
- No need for housing for your money


I have an idea. My friend asked me about this idea. Instead of an in-house heater, you use a miner and route it into your house, and an air filter inside the miner too. You can build it in a slot in your wall, so there's no snow.


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November 11, 2015, 06:48:22 PM
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The largest issue you would face would be the condensation.  Because of the heat that is thrown off and the drastic temperature difference, you would have an issues with the condensation.  The hot air would rapidly cool/condense causing all the moisture in the air to get heavy and drop.  It would be like putting a warm glass of ice outside during the summer.  Now if you could eliminate the moisture in the sir and find a way to circulate the cold air into the system, then you would be able to do this.



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November 15, 2015, 09:20:19 PM
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What types of damage could the machine takes if they are placed outside in the scandinavian winter.

whit roof . no walls ?

any overclock pocibilities?


Let's say s5 machines sp20s ?

this is the idea.

The Blow will be outside and the intake will be pulled from downside.


PLacing the Miners on the balconi the intake should not bring any moisture from the downside.

Weather is pretty dry were i live.

The little box will be weather prooff so no water or snow will be getting inside.




First of all, i love your Paint skills.

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The idea is good but make sure to protect your miners against any form of liquid (rain, snow, frost etc.).  Cooling won't be your problem and if your energy cost are low to very low,

Why not give it a try

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