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April 13, 2016, 08:57:23 AM
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Nice to see another week without nothing running on the mainnet.
Usually guys spects a delays, troubles, issues and invisible big partnetships etc.


Hype over 9999! Reality, under -5.

Instead of complaining, go help in the testing.

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April 13, 2016, 09:15:41 AM
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something good will if it continues to delay MainNet is that the hype lose strength and can buy cheaper x20 IPO now, perhaps x5 or x10 ?,
but then the price Deal also lower.

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April 13, 2016, 11:41:20 AM
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In case if someone of you are not in Iota Rocketchat:

I'm adding multisignatures now. It was scheduled on this week assuming that we have already tested ordinary signatures. Because of address reuse double redesign we haven't tested the ordinary signatures properly, but I try to stick to the schedule, so we'll have to test them both simultaneously. GUI won't support multisignatures, they are not for casual users, only those who are fluent in API can help.
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April 13, 2016, 02:27:37 PM
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In case if someone of you are not in Iota Rocketchat:

I'm adding multisignatures now. It was scheduled on this week assuming that we have already tested ordinary signatures. Because of address reuse double redesign we haven't tested the ordinary signatures properly, but I try to stick to the schedule, so we'll have to test them both simultaneously. GUI won't support multisignatures, they are not for casual users, only those who are fluent in API can help.
Great stuff, thanks for letting us know  Smiley
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April 13, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
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PSA: For those interested, the current market cap of available JINN tokens is under $250,000 on the Nxt asset exchange.  Nxt is slowly, slowly, slowly, going down in value so this is beneficial to the JINN speculator.  If you support Iota and would like to consider investing in the teams other projects that will support Iota, then you owe it to yourself to pick up some JINN shares.

I know some were planning on cashing out some Iota profits and putting it back into Nxt.  Buy orders are already rumbling on the Nxt AE, so you might want to get in on JINN while you can!

A Personal Quote on BTT from 2011:
"I'd be willing to make a moderate "investment" if the value of the BTC went below $2.00.  Otherwise I'll just have to live with my 5 BTC and be happy. :/"  ...sigh.  If only I knew.
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April 13, 2016, 03:58:21 PM
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PSA: For those interested, the current market cap of available JINN tokens is under $250,000 on the Nxt asset exchange.  Nxt is slowly, slowly, slowly, going down in value so this is beneficial to the JINN speculator.  If you support Iota and would like to consider investing in the teams other projects that will support Iota, then you owe it to yourself to pick up some JINN shares.

I know some were planning on cashing out some Iota profits and putting it back into Nxt.  Buy orders are already rumbling on the Nxt AE, so you might want to get in on JINN while you can!

Them buying JINN tokens do not influence the JINN project though, as we don't get any of those funds.

Briefly on the state of Nxt: it is crashing due to its own identity crisis. Nxt need to figure out what it wants to be.

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April 13, 2016, 04:06:41 PM
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Yes, I agree about the sad state of Nxt.  I still have a place for it in my crypto-heart, but it needs something to inject life into it though I'm not sure what that "thing" is and I just don't think that "thing" is a new feature or two.

Apologies for not pointing out that buying JINN assets doesn't directly help the project.  However, the more distribution we get of the asset, I believe the more interest we will have in the project as a whole, and more people to spread and promote it's purpose and societal value.  I understand that you guys aren't about making the speculators rich.  I'm fine with that, but even the smart speculators will want to promote (legitimate) information about the products and services that they invest in.

I personally invest in projects that I take interest in.  With that said, I'm not doing this for altruism.  I'm doing this to mutually support projects that I think have a significant purpose AND so that I can profit off of them and further invest in other, important projects that I think have a purpose.

Technology is ever changing and I'm mostly pumped about Iota/JINN.  That said, I'm hoping these investments start to become profitable so that I can invest in future Iota/Jinn projects or some other, entirely different projects that will advance cryptocurrency in the every day world.

Ok, I'll get off of my utopian-investor soapbox. Cheesy Tongue

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April 13, 2016, 04:22:35 PM
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PSA: For those interested, the current market cap of available JINN tokens is under $250,000 on the Nxt asset exchange.  Nxt is slowly, slowly, slowly, going down in value so this is beneficial to the JINN speculator.  If you support Iota and would like to consider investing in the teams other projects that will support Iota, then you owe it to yourself to pick up some JINN shares.

I know some were planning on cashing out some Iota profits and putting it back into Nxt.  Buy orders are already rumbling on the Nxt AE, so you might want to get in on JINN while you can!

On that note, I'm looking to swap some of my IOTA for JINN. If anyone has some JINN and needs some IOTA please see this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1360660.msg14527733#msg14527733

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April 14, 2016, 11:13:04 AM
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I'm adding multisignatures now. It was scheduled on this week assuming that we have already tested ordinary signatures.

Can that whole schedule be published? Grin
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April 14, 2016, 11:32:22 AM
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Can that whole schedule be published? Grin

11th of April - 17th: Multisig
18th - 24th: Client for hardcore users (I don't like bells and whistles that eat 100% of CPU)
25th - 30th: Testing of the whole Iota functionality
1st of May: Holiday
2nd of May: Release of beta version

This is my personal schedule that is not coordinated with the Foundation that (maybe) planned Grand opening with fireworks and barely dressed girls serving cocktails.
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April 14, 2016, 11:57:52 AM
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April 14, 2016, 01:37:30 PM
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Can that whole schedule be published? Grin

11th of April - 17th: Multisig
18th - 24th: Client for hardcore users (I don't like bells and whistles that eat 100% of CPU)
25th - 30th: Testing of the whole Iota functionality
1st of May: Holiday
2nd of May: Release of beta version

This is my personal schedule that is not coordinated with the Foundation that (maybe) planned Grand opening with fireworks and barely dressed girls serving cocktails.

The holiday here is from 30th April to 2nd May, so personally  I prefer the release on 3rd of May.
 
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April 14, 2016, 01:53:48 PM
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The holiday here is from 30th April to 2nd May, so personally  I prefer the release on 3rd of May.

All dates are ETAed.
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April 14, 2016, 01:55:25 PM
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The holiday here is from 30th April to 2nd May, so personally  I prefer the release on 3rd of May.

All dates are ETAed.

That's much better then endless "this week"-s
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April 14, 2016, 02:00:17 PM
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The holiday here is from 30th April to 2nd May, so personally  I prefer the release on 3rd of May.

All dates are ETAed.

That's much better then endless "this week"-s

"This week" was actually the estimate of our UI dev, but it seems he's unable to deliver too. This would then be the 4th UI dev that has taken a relatively simple job and inexplicably not be able to deliver. Welcome to the world of depending on workers to work. So in this case we'll piece it together ourselves. I have given the UI dev deadline of answering tonight if he can finish it or not, if he can then release will be way earlier, and if not then the ETAs CfB put forth will be the ones to rely on.

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April 14, 2016, 02:48:17 PM
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Can that whole schedule be published? Grin

11th of April - 17th: Multisig
18th - 24th: Client for hardcore users (I don't like bells and whistles that eat 100% of CPU)
25th - 30th: Testing of the whole Iota functionality
1st of May: Holiday
2nd of May: Release of beta version

This is my personal schedule that is not coordinated with the Foundation that (maybe) planned Grand opening with fireworks and barely dressed girls serving cocktails.

Thank David and CfB. Question regarding Beta: Will this Beta than be able to have safe transactions (without the likelihood of rollbacks) or will this come with a final release later?
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April 14, 2016, 03:05:44 PM
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Wait... unable to deliver in deadline OR unable to deliver ANYTHING!?

It has gotten to the point that this looks like a joke. The official response also seems underwhelming - this can't be that "simple" if no one can do it. If four professionals can't do the job something else is happening, it can't be they are all lazy and stupid. So what is happening?

I've heard the phrase "welcome to the world of..." 5x already from you in this thread and it looks worse everytime. I'm just dumbfounded that the GUI is causing such massive headaches for you and the team. Could we have a more detailed response as to what is proving so difficult?


 


The holiday here is from 30th April to 2nd May, so personally  I prefer the release on 3rd of May.

All dates are ETAed.

That's much better then endless "this week"-s

"This week" was actually the estimate of our UI dev, but it seems he's unable to deliver too. This would then be the 4th UI dev that has taken a relatively simple job and inexplicably not be able to deliver. Welcome to the world of depending on workers to work. So in this case we'll piece it together ourselves. I have given the UI dev deadline of answering tonight if he can finish it or not, if he can then release will be way earlier, and if not then the ETAs CfB put forth will be the ones to rely on.
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April 14, 2016, 03:06:02 PM
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The holiday here is from 30th April to 2nd May, so personally  I prefer the release on 3rd of May.

All dates are ETAed.

That's much better then endless "this week"-s

"This week" was actually the estimate of our UI dev, but it seems he's unable to deliver too. This would then be the 4th UI dev that has taken a relatively simple job and inexplicably not be able to deliver. Welcome to the world of depending on workers to work. So in this case we'll piece it together ourselves. I have given the UI dev deadline of answering tonight if he can finish it or not, if he can then release will be way earlier, and if not then the ETAs CfB put forth will be the ones to rely on.

isn't the UI dev Wesley?
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April 14, 2016, 03:29:08 PM
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Wait... unable to deliver in deadline OR unable to deliver ANYTHING!?

It has gotten to the point that this looks like a joke. The official response also seems underwhelming - this can't be that "simple" if no one can do it. If four professionals can't do the job something else is happening, it can't be they are all lazy and stupid. So what is happening?

I've heard the phrase "welcome to the world of..." 5x already from you in this thread and it looks worse everytime. I'm just dumbfounded that the GUI is causing such massive headaches for you and the team. Could we have a more detailed response as to what is proving so difficult?


It truly is, nothing else. It's a simple HTML5/CSS/JS/SVG UI. There is really nothing super complex about it, one dev mentioned that the API was a bit different from what he expected, but nothing else.

In short summary:

We first hired a UI dev from www.dribbble.com late December with the agreed time schedule of beginning at the start of January. He never showed up, and never responded, and hasn't used any of his social media since with exception of 1 post. I have NO idea what happened to him, but hope he's alright even though it seems he fell off the face of the Earth.

CreativeDash screwed us over when they lost their dev (which in retrospect they probably already knew was going to happen, but decided not to tell us to get money for design). Then they 'forgot' to send crucial files for a whole month, and then when confronted about lacking certain animations as agreed on before work commenced they just stopped replying. Worst design firm in the world, no matter their impressive portfolio.


Dan Warfel literally just disappeared for weeks at a time, claiming he was in the hospital, but then when I discovered he was still posting on social media while 'in the hospital' and not responding to us and confronted him with it, he just started making up more and more excuses about being "95% done". This guy had several 'breakdowns' during our conversations, literally to the point where I was afraid he might hurt himself. He also spent the funds we gave him upfront, so he had to borrow money to refund us, which took quite some time. Again this guy had an impressive portfolio too.


Latest UI dev we have used is Wesley who made the Nxt Client and SecureAE client. Unfortunately he has also been unreliable, I still like Wesley for his work in the past and I know he got the skills to be useful, but apparently some health issues is impacting his performance and so there has been extended delays. Right now we're still working things out with him because at least I know he works, just way way slower than what we agreed upon.


So yea, that's the whole story. Lesson to be learned: even if you do full background checks, hire professionals and sign contracts: you're still likely to be screwed a couple of times. We have just been extremely unlucky with UI development, there's no other issue going on. In the meanwhile we have added functionality to IOTA core and found several ways to optimize IOTA, which matters. GUI is for humans, machines don't care about GUI, so that's why we haven't panicked about Murphy's Law striking down hard on us with the GUI. Of course now that we're approaching launch we need the GUI, so either Wesley will finish it or we will put it together ourselves by the end of the month. HOPEFULLY Wesley will deliver.

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April 14, 2016, 03:31:25 PM
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Could we have a more detailed response as to what is proving so difficult?

The stars say that only the 9th GUI dev will deliver. Or the 0th (me).
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